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Christians think I'm a wolf in sheep's clothing because I'm not judgmental enough

 
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Tell me, what if you are wrong and souls are condemed because of false teaching?
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I'm not wrong - I didn't swallow this stuff overnight. I scrutinized it all from day 1 and continually challenge it from every angle, and it proves sound. God brought this thing to me, I didn't go seeking some controversial doctrines to latch onto.

And if you're so concerned with what happens when false teachers share error, consider what Jesus said: "Anyone who breaks the commandments and teaches others to do likewise will be called least in the Kingdom of God". He says they're going to be in the Kingdom, not in hell or purgatory or wherever else. We would agree that teaching lies is a very serious offense, yes? Yet Jesus said that those who commit this sin will end up in the Kingdom.

Does that compute?
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And if eternal hell is such a danger, why did God not warn Adam & Eve right at the start of all this? In fact, please tell us where in scripture God first announces for all time the alleged Truth that sinners wind up in an afterlife of endless fire. This alone is a rather startling exercise.
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Here's another one for you. Why would God create Adam and Eve so totally innocent so as NOT to know right from wrong, and then punish them for disobedience....KNOWING they could not have known it wrong to disobey?

Further, what type of parent would tell their kids NOT to eat from a tree that would give them knowledge, in effect not wanting them to know anything?

Does any of that make sense?
 Quoting: ajk


Wow man. You must be smarter than God. If YOU can't understand it, it must be BS.
Your sin is pride and ignorance.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1419030


Don't judge him. He has a valid question which is based on a misunderstanding of a concept. He's asking why would discouragement of knowledge be a good thing (on the assumption that learning is a positive experience). He's missed the part where it says 'evil'. Knowledge of evil. Would anyone ever encourage learning of the evil in this world? Or discourage it?
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Again though, one is gonna be faced with it, would it better to tell them so they know what it is, or leave them with no idea at all?
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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And if eternal hell is such a danger, why did God not warn Adam & Eve right at the start of all this? In fact, please tell us where in scripture God first announces for all time the alleged Truth that sinners wind up in an afterlife of endless fire. This alone is a rather startling exercise.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578


Here's another one for you. Why would God create Adam and Eve so totally innocent so as NOT to know right from wrong, and then punish them for disobedience....KNOWING they could not have known it wrong to disobey?

Further, what type of parent would tell their kids NOT to eat from a tree that would give them knowledge, in effect not wanting them to know anything?

Does any of that make sense?
 Quoting: ajk


If you don't skewer it so much, it does.

The reason for the discouragement is it was knowledge of both Good and evil. You know what evil is like, you detest evil, correct? Would you actively encourage learning of evil? Or discourage it, like parents do with children? And if parents with children, why not God?
 Quoting: Joshua Flynn 6094756


Would it not be better that they know the difference? They're gonna be faced with it eventually no? So why keep them dumb to it?
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Dumb? Or protected from the horrors within? Do you immediately expose a 3 year old child to the horrors of the world straight away (they are going to learn it eventually anyway?), or do you wait until they are mature enough to handle and understand the matter?


If you wait until an individual is mature enough to handle the matter, why not wait, and prepare them first, before exposing them to the horrors within? Eventuality is not equated with the immediate.
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To the OP: Why do you say that? What happened?
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Sorry, why do I say *what*? Not sure what you're asking. . .
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Your title.
 Quoting: Joshua Flynn 6094756


Ah. It's just one of those things that accumulates every now and then. Sometimes these little debates are best publicized. . .a "laying the cards out on the table" so to speak.
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Here's another one for you. Why would God create Adam and Eve so totally innocent so as NOT to know right from wrong, and then punish them for disobedience....KNOWING they could not have known it wrong to disobey?

Further, what type of parent would tell their kids NOT to eat from a tree that would give them knowledge, in effect not wanting them to know anything?

Does any of that make sense?
 Quoting: ajk


If you don't skewer it so much, it does.

The reason for the discouragement is it was knowledge of both Good and evil. You know what evil is like, you detest evil, correct? Would you actively encourage learning of evil? Or discourage it, like parents do with children? And if parents with children, why not God?
 Quoting: Joshua Flynn 6094756


Would it not be better that they know the difference? They're gonna be faced with it eventually no? So why keep them dumb to it?
 Quoting: ajk


Dumb? Or protected from the horrors within? Do you immediately expose a 3 year old child to the horrors of the world straight away (they are going to learn it eventually anyway?), or do you wait until they are mature enough to handle and understand the matter?


If you wait until an individual is mature enough to handle the matter, why not wait, and prepare them first, before exposing them to the horrors within? Eventuality is not equated with the immediate.
 Quoting: Joshua Flynn 6094756



Ok I can respect that, but here's the problem then comparing it to Adam and Eve. Again these were INNOCENT beings, but the FIRST time they do something wrong what happens?

Does God show patience and understanding to them, teach them so that they may learn and grow? NO! He shows wrath, anger and throws the book at them! Is that truly the sign of a loving being? I think not.

Last Edited by ajk on 05/11/2012 05:05 PM
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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Tell me, what if you are wrong and souls are condemed because of false teaching?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1419030


I'm not wrong - I didn't swallow this stuff overnight. I scrutinized it all from day 1 and continually challenge it from every angle, and it proves sound. God brought this thing to me, I didn't go seeking some controversial doctrines to latch onto.

And if you're so concerned with what happens when false teachers share error, consider what Jesus said: "Anyone who breaks the commandments and teaches others to do likewise will be called least in the Kingdom of God". He says they're going to be in the Kingdom, not in hell or purgatory or wherever else. We would agree that teaching lies is a very serious offense, yes? Yet Jesus said that those who commit this sin will end up in the Kingdom.

Does that compute?
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cruise

Good luck.
Turn around and waive at the White Throne. I would like to see what you look like.
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Have you considered the possibility that this God you have worshipped for so long isn't really God?
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I did when I began "seeing the light", yes. The church god of Failure is a cosmic contradiction, bipolar through and through.
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Re: Christians think I'm a wolf in sheep's clothing because I'm not judgmental enough
No.
You ignore Jesus because "YOU" don't think "it's" right.
Thats why.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1419030


Well, no - I don't ignore Jesus. He's my Redeemer, and I can't live without Him.

Why would you make such an assertion?
 Quoting: op 8788578


You should of put "some" Christians in the title.
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Here's another one for you. Why would God create Adam and Eve so totally innocent so as NOT to know right from wrong, and then punish them for disobedience....KNOWING they could not have known it wrong to disobey?

Further, what type of parent would tell their kids NOT to eat from a tree that would give them knowledge, in effect not wanting them to know anything?

Does any of that make sense?
 Quoting: ajk


Wow man. You must be smarter than God. If YOU can't understand it, it must be BS.
Your sin is pride and ignorance.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1419030


Don't judge him. He has a valid question which is based on a misunderstanding of a concept. He's asking why would discouragement of knowledge be a good thing (on the assumption that learning is a positive experience). He's missed the part where it says 'evil'. Knowledge of evil. Would anyone ever encourage learning of the evil in this world? Or discourage it?
 Quoting: Joshua Flynn 6094756


Again though, one is gonna be faced with it, would it better to tell them so they know what it is, or leave them with no idea at all?
 Quoting: ajk


Is there any harm in them not knowing? What would they be prepared for? The animals are not aware, but they are plenty and not inhibited by their surroundings.

If you're assuming they would have eventually stumbled across evil without taking the apple of knowledge, then you present a catch-22 (they would have learned anyway and your problem of them being unprepared is nullified, or the apple determines when evil occurs and they wouldn't need to prepared as there is no threat).
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Have you considered the possibility that this God you have worshipped for so long isn't really God?
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I did when I began "seeing the light", yes. The church god of Failure is a cosmic contradiction, bipolar through and through.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578


Keep going then. Ask yourself something....would a being of love ever need death to love again? If not...why would God who is supposed to be pure love need Jesus to die on the cross for? It's a bit twisted don't you think?
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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Tell me, what if you are wrong and souls are condemed because of false teaching?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1419030


I'm not wrong - I didn't swallow this stuff overnight. I scrutinized it all from day 1 and continually challenge it from every angle, and it proves sound. God brought this thing to me, I didn't go seeking some controversial doctrines to latch onto.

And if you're so concerned with what happens when false teachers share error, consider what Jesus said: "Anyone who breaks the commandments and teaches others to do likewise will be called least in the Kingdom of God". He says they're going to be in the Kingdom, not in hell or purgatory or wherever else. We would agree that teaching lies is a very serious offense, yes? Yet Jesus said that those who commit this sin will end up in the Kingdom.

Does that compute?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578


cruise

Good luck.
Turn around and waive at the White Throne. I would like to see what you look like.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1419030


How sobering!

uhoh
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Wow man. You must be smarter than God. If YOU can't understand it, it must be BS.
Your sin is pride and ignorance.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1419030


Don't judge him. He has a valid question which is based on a misunderstanding of a concept. He's asking why would discouragement of knowledge be a good thing (on the assumption that learning is a positive experience). He's missed the part where it says 'evil'. Knowledge of evil. Would anyone ever encourage learning of the evil in this world? Or discourage it?
 Quoting: Joshua Flynn 6094756


Again though, one is gonna be faced with it, would it better to tell them so they know what it is, or leave them with no idea at all?
 Quoting: ajk


Is there any harm in them not knowing? What would they be prepared for? The animals are not aware, but they are plenty and not inhibited by their surroundings.

If you're assuming they would have eventually stumbled across evil without taking the apple of knowledge, then you present a catch-22 (they would have learned anyway and your problem of them being unprepared is nullified, or the apple determines when evil occurs and they wouldn't need to prepared as there is no threat).
 Quoting: Joshua Flynn 6094756


See my above reply. It's one thing for them to not know.....but when you punish them so harshly the very first time they screw up.....well that just doesn't make any good sense.
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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why would God who is supposed to be pure love need Jesus to die on the cross for? It's a bit twisted don't you think?
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Jesus *is* that God. It doesn't hold water for some folks, though, and that's fine.
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why would God who is supposed to be pure love need Jesus to die on the cross for? It's a bit twisted don't you think?
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Jesus *is* that God. It doesn't hold water for some folks, though, and that's fine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578


Even if that was the case, why would such a bloody sacrifice be needed just to love people again? Would love not just do it for the sake of it?

Last Edited by ajk on 05/11/2012 05:12 PM
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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lol your a wolf in sheeps clothing because you preach a gospel other than of Jesus Christ (the Bible).

Plain and simple.
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Your not judgmental enough. There's a multitude of twisted perverse fucks out there, homos turd burling, necrophiliacs, pedophiles (i.e., Mulsims), heathen idolator Chinamen worshipping Mao and his mass murdering ways, thieves smashing volunteer neighborhood watchmen's heads against the concrete, etc.,
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Note that the "gates" of New Jerusalem *never* close. We're told in Revelation 3 that those who overcome will "go out no more", and Isaiah 60 confirms that these gates remain open for the purpose of bringing the kings and armies of the world in.

How does that work if those kings and armies are supposedly boiling away in the notorious Lake of Fire? Isaiah suggests that they'll be able to get into New Jerusalem.
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lol your a wolf in sheeps clothing because you preach a gospel other than of Jesus Christ (the Bible).

Plain and simple.
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Well, no - I've been here for years urging actual repentance instead of Laodicean church pageantry. How is that "a gospel other than of Jesus Christ (the Bible)"?

Why is it that if I announce "Jesus saves", people cain't holler "AMEN" loud enough, but if I say "Jesus saves everyone" I'm suddenly the devil?
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If you don't skewer it so much, it does.

The reason for the discouragement is it was knowledge of both Good and evil. You know what evil is like, you detest evil, correct? Would you actively encourage learning of evil? Or discourage it, like parents do with children? And if parents with children, why not God?
 Quoting: Joshua Flynn 6094756


Would it not be better that they know the difference? They're gonna be faced with it eventually no? So why keep them dumb to it?
 Quoting: ajk


Dumb? Or protected from the horrors within? Do you immediately expose a 3 year old child to the horrors of the world straight away (they are going to learn it eventually anyway?), or do you wait until they are mature enough to handle and understand the matter?


If you wait until an individual is mature enough to handle the matter, why not wait, and prepare them first, before exposing them to the horrors within? Eventuality is not equated with the immediate.
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Ok I can respect that, but here's the problem then comparing it to Adam and Eve. Again these were INNOCENT beings, but the FIRST time they do something wrong what happens?

Does God show patience and understanding to them, teach them so that they may learn and grow? NO! He shows wrath, anger and throws the book at them! Is that truly the sign of a loving being? I think not.
 Quoting: ajk


You misunderstand the verse. Are you reading the verses, with an (internal) 'angry voice'? You know how, when one writes sarcasm, that people cannot understand the intention? It is like that.


In the verses, God is explaining to them what the apple of knowledge of Good and evil has done (it has cursed them - so adam, instead of relying on God for nourishment, must rely on digging the soil and laying plants for food, and eve will feel pain in childbirth - because suffering is another evil, and it's part of that knowledge).

God has to enact the curses (because all things occur as a result of God) because of their eating the apple of knowledge.
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why would God who is supposed to be pure love need Jesus to die on the cross for? It's a bit twisted don't you think?
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Jesus *is* that God. It doesn't hold water for some folks, though, and that's fine.
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Even if that was the case, why would such a bloody sacrifice be needed just to love people again? Would love not just do it for the sake of it?
 Quoting: ajk


(He still loved people, but) I dunno. Some kind of cause & effect, I guess? I hear where you're coming from :)
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Your not judgmental enough. There's a multitude of twisted perverse fucks out there, homos turd burling, necrophiliacs, pedophiles (i.e., Mulsims), heathen idolator Chinamen worshipping Mao and his mass murdering ways, thieves smashing volunteer neighborhood watchmen's heads against the concrete, etc.,
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Well, suppose I myself have been guilty of most of that same stuff, as well? That would be fairly hypocritical, and I'm no longer comfortable going there.
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 Quoting: MuadDib987 (nli)


lol your a wolf in sheeps clothing because you preach a gospel other than of Jesus Christ (the Bible).

Plain and simple.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 720033


Well, no - I've been here for years urging actual repentance instead of Laodicean church pageantry. How is that "a gospel other than of Jesus Christ (the Bible)"?

Why is it that if I announce "Jesus saves", people cain't holler "AMEN" loud enough, but if I say "Jesus saves everyone" I'm suddenly the devil?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578


Because the people cannot see that everybody is interconnected, and all their brothers and sisters. If the spirit of a man originates from God ("for anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen") then it is a part of God ("cannot Love God, whom he has not seen"), and thus God could only have Love for any part of Himself.

The fact of the matter is, the tree of Life was in the garden as well at the beginning. Clearly, then, He had already planned to rescue everybody.
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Clearly, then, He had already planned to rescue everybody.
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Agreed - "the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world" :)

This life is essentially compost, from which will spring harvests otherwise impossible to obtain
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 Quoting: MuadDib987 (nli)


lol your a wolf in sheeps clothing because you preach a gospel other than of Jesus Christ (the Bible).

Plain and simple.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 720033


Well, no - I've been here for years urging actual repentance instead of Laodicean church pageantry. How is that "a gospel other than of Jesus Christ (the Bible)"?

Why is it that if I announce "Jesus saves", people cain't holler "AMEN" loud enough, but if I say "Jesus saves everyone" I'm suddenly the devil?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578


Oh please who are you trying to fool?
We have had many discussion you and I where you have vetted and raged against what is written in the Bible.

Took out of it what you only desire.
Called it a work of man, etc...

You also deny that Jesus Christ IS the only way to Eternal Life and to God.

Do you STILL believe Jesus Christ is NOT the only way?
If you do believe it, I will pray for you.

In Jesus Christ.
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Clearly, then, He had already planned to rescue everybody.
 Quoting: Joshua Flynn 6094756


Agreed - "the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world" :)

This life is essentially compost, from which will spring harvests otherwise impossible to obtain
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"For God had consigned to disobedience, that He may have mercy on all."
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Clearly, then, He had already planned to rescue everybody.
 Quoting: Joshua Flynn 6094756


Agreed - "the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world" :)

This life is essentially compost, from which will spring harvests otherwise impossible to obtain
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"For God had consigned to disobedience, that He may have mercy on all."
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Correction: "For God had consigned all to disobedience, that He may have mercy on all."
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 Quoting: MuadDib987 (nli)


lol your a wolf in sheeps clothing because you preach a gospel other than of Jesus Christ (the Bible).

Plain and simple.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 720033


What part does he preach that isn't spoken of already in scripture?
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Oh please who are you trying to fool?
We have had many discussion you and I where you have vetted and raged against what is written in the Bible.

Took out of it what you only desire.
Called it a work of man, etc...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 720033


"Vetted and raged"? OK. But, yes - it's leavened. That's why we have to dig in deeper past the tainted English to get to what God really had in mind. As I said earlier, taking it literal at face value is not "study". It's not what the Bereans did.


You also deny that Jesus Christ IS the only way to Eternal Life and to God.
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No, I don't. Jesus is the Lamb of God, who died and resurrected to redeem us. How might I make it any more clear to you? If you're still suspicious, I can't help ya.
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Re: Christians think I'm a wolf in sheep's clothing because I'm not judgmental enough
Clearly, then, He had already planned to rescue everybody.
 Quoting: Joshua Flynn 6094756


Agreed - "the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world" :)

This life is essentially compost, from which will spring harvests otherwise impossible to obtain
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"For God had consigned to disobedience, that He may have mercy on all."
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Correction: "For God had consigned all to disobedience, that He may have mercy on all."
 Quoting: Joshua Flynn 6094756


Exquisite. Romans 11.
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05/11/2012 05:40 PM
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Re: Christians think I'm a wolf in sheep's clothing because I'm not judgmental enough
Oh please who are you trying to fool?
We have had many discussion you and I where you have vetted and raged against what is written in the Bible.

Took out of it what you only desire.
Called it a work of man, etc...
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"Vetted and raged"? OK. But, yes - it's leavened. That's why we have to dig in deeper past the tainted English to get to what God really had in mind. As I said earlier, taking it literal at face value is not "study". It's not what the Bereans did.


You also deny that Jesus Christ IS the only way to Eternal Life and to God.
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No, I don't. Jesus is the Lamb of God, who died and resurrected to redeem us. How might I make it any more clear to you? If you're still suspicious, I can't help ya.
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Do you believe that Jesus Christ is the Living God?
That He is the Word in the Flesh?

And you DID NOT answer the question.

DO YOU BELIEVE HE IS THE ONLY WAY TO ETERNAL LIFE AND TO GOD THE FATHER?

THE ONLY WAY?

Answer the question Wolf.





GLP