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Are you aware that you are NOT the thoughts that come from your human mind? In fact, your mind is your enemy...

 
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youre wrong about the mind. the mind is the key. the problem is not our thoughts. modern mans problems root from the fact we dont have access to our sub conscious or super consciousness therefore we mistaken our conscious thoughts as our solely primary superior identity.

through exercise and control of our mind we can begin to identify ou real self from our non self. some of ou consciousness and ego is part of our real identity. similarly not all of our sub conscious thoughts are our true identity. i suspect the bulk of realization of ones true identity does reside in the super cobsciousness though.
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this is interesting. i believe that one can control the subconscious mind through controlling our dreams. that sounds insane, i know. but i believe it.
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Same here! There is no definitive source for all knowledge. You have to practice an open mind, take in lots of information, and then use your natural instincts and intuition to make sense of it and decide what really rings true with your heart. It's not a feeling in your mind of, "Oh that sounds most logical", it's really a feeling that resonates through your entire body (including your heart).
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Exactly. I just believe this understanding energy comes from the center of our chest, the heart area.
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what do you actually mean when you say \"listen to your heart\" because the only thing a heart does is pump blood-that is all. All thought and emotion is controlled by the brain, dopamine, serotonin, norepinephrine, etc...
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This is an antiquated way of thinking unfortunately.
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Same here! There is no definitive source for all knowledge. You have to practice an open mind, take in lots of information, and then use your natural instincts and intuition to make sense of it and decide what really rings true with your heart. It's not a feeling in your mind of, "Oh that sounds most logical", it's really a feeling that resonates through your entire body (including your heart).
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Exactly. I just believe this understanding energy comes from the center of our chest, the heart area.
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Because it is our spirit energy that brings the body to life and our heart beat is the rhythm of our soul.
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my most peaceful fulfilling moments this life time have been near Natural water, ocean, river, creek...whatever.


To all those having trouble shutting off the hacking, try going down by the river for awhile and just sit and watch.


ps. destroying the beast is easy, just do nothing! think nothing, BE NO THING!!!!!!
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Real truth here. People should heed this post.
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my most peaceful fulfilling moments this life time have been near Natural water, ocean, river, creek...whatever.


To all those having trouble shutting off the hacking, try going down by the river for awhile and just sit and watch.


ps. destroying the beast is easy, just do nothing! think nothing, BE NO THING!!!!!!
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Real truth here. People should heed this post.
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That is truth...Thank You.
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I completely agree with you. I started hearing voices, and lemme tell you my subconscious "mind/ego" was in no way shape or form my friend. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if it really were a negative entity injecting their ideas into me either that or I'm incredibly self destructive. When I listen to my heart, it is full of love and acceptance. There is a silent understanding/communication. I remember being in my mothers woumb, right before she went into labor. The first moment was zen and peace, and then my mind woke up and there was a constant emptiness and restlessness.
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+1 Thank you!
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tell that to women who think with their vaginas
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I know that you are trying to be witty, but cleverness is not wisdom.

I am a man, but I can say that women are much more aware of their inner consciousness than men...
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I disagree, I would say men are more aware. Most of the wise spiritual leaders throughout history have been men. The male mind is much more complex than it lets on, it's a master of disguise.
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both of you morons couldnt be more wrong. any person regardless of sex age race status intellectual ability can be wise and be a spiritual leader. just because most spiritual masters have been men is not indicative of anything. you can make other silly equally inaccurate assumptions using that argument.
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Everyone who disagrees with you is a Moran on GLP didn't you get the memo? That insult just isn't very effective anymore. Anyway, I think it says a lot that most of the spiritual philosophy in practice these days, was created by men. It shows that while we may not have some of the intuitive benefits of the female mind, we have an enormous, and fairly socially hidden connection with our serotoergic minds aka spiritual centers. Does that mean women are not capable of this connection? Not at all. What it does point to, and I do want to emphasize that, because I don't believe this proven, just my thoughts and feelings, is that men are more spiritually aware than women, at least in certain respects.

I do think that women surpass men in areas of intuition and other areas of the vast array of complexities hidden within the spiritual centers of the mind, both of which are extremely important, and invaluable to the functioning of the universe. We are both equally amazing machines; man and woman. Both, equally important. We are all one.

hf
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I know that you are trying to be witty, but cleverness is not wisdom.

I am a man, but I can say that women are much more aware of their inner consciousness than men...
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I disagree, I would say men are more aware. Most of the wise spiritual leaders throughout history have been men. The male mind is much more complex than it lets on, it's a master of disguise.
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both of you morons couldnt be more wrong. any person regardless of sex age race status intellectual ability can be wise and be a spiritual leader. just because most spiritual masters have been men is not indicative of anything. you can make other silly equally inaccurate assumptions using that argument.
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Everyone who disagrees with you is a Moran on GLP didn't you get the memo? That insult just isn't very effective anymore. Anyway, I think it says a lot that most of the spiritual philosophy in practice these days, was created by men. It shows that while we may not have some of the intuitive benefits of the female mind, we have an enormous, and fairly socially hidden connection with our serotoergic minds aka spiritual centers. Does that mean women are not capable of this connection? Not at all. What it does point to, and I do want to emphasize that, because I don't believe this proven, just my thoughts and feelings, is that men are more spiritually aware than women, at least in certain respects.

I do think that women surpass men in areas of intuition and other areas of the vast array of complexities hidden within the spiritual centers of the mind, both of which are extremely important, and invaluable to the functioning of the universe. We are both equally amazing machines; man and woman. Both, equally important. We are all one.

hf
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Sry, left out shill also. Moran or shill... Yes, I know the common way to say it hear, just my observation., that's all.
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I do think that women surpass men in areas of intuition and other areas of the vast array of complexities hidden within the spiritual centers of the mind, both of which are extremely important, and invaluable to the functioning of the universe. We are both equally amazing machines; man and woman. Both, equally important. We are all one.

hf
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Thank you for the post. Personally, I believe that the "spiritual centers of the mind" are not the mind, but the "spiritual centers of the heart". The heart provides us an interface with our inner spiritual self and the mind provides us an interface with this physical world.

Just my view.

Peace
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I do think that women surpass men in areas of intuition and other areas of the vast array of complexities hidden within the spiritual centers of the mind, both of which are extremely important, and invaluable to the functioning of the universe. We are both equally amazing machines; man and woman. Both, equally important. We are all one.

hf
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Thank you for the post. Personally, I believe that the "spiritual centers of the mind" are not the mind, but the "spiritual centers of the heart". The heart provides us an interface with our inner spiritual self and the mind provides us an interface with this physical world.

Just my view.

Peace
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I could never get into the whole soul thing, at least in the stereotypical sense. However, I feel the truth may be somewhere in the middle on this one!

You are on a good path, keep on it. There is something about you that reminds me of myself, and that worries me! Lol
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You can just try to let the voice shut up by humming or listening to your own breathing. It is called meditation.
Sometimes it is good to take some distance from something for a whole so you can get a different perspective. You can take that to an extreme and see everything in perspective and never just judge and spit out words without a pause. Don't know if that is good. But for sure many people in the world should do it a bit more.
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I could never get into the whole soul thing, at least in the stereotypical sense. However, I feel the truth may be somewhere in the middle on this one!

You are on a good path, keep on it. There is something about you that reminds me of myself, and that worries me! Lol
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That is how we should view all new information. Don't believe anything I say as truth! Listen to what you are told. Find some quiet time alone and see what your heart tells you about this idea. If it feels right, keep it close to you. If it feels wrong, toss it aside and move on.

That is the only truth that you will ever find in this life.

If anything that I have said feels right in your heart, start searching.

If you want to read more about what I have said here, look up other threads that I have started by clicking on my handle "1123581321". Just keep searching and listening to your heart. No one can tell you the truth, but you!

Peace
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Why do you have reservations about Tolle? Just curious, I am reading The power of Now currently. I find it very good so far.

Tough to live with no ego in todays ego driven world. It seems like the ego is being reved up even more everyday and we are floating further and further from the real truth of conscience.

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I disagree, I would say men are more aware. Most of the wise spiritual leaders throughout history have been men. The male mind is much more complex than it lets on, it's a master of disguise.
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both of you morons couldnt be more wrong. any person regardless of sex age race status intellectual ability can be wise and be a spiritual leader. just because most spiritual masters have been men is not indicative of anything. you can make other silly equally inaccurate assumptions using that argument.
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Everyone who disagrees with you is a Moran on GLP didn't you get the memo? That insult just isn't very effective anymore. Anyway, I think it says a lot that most of the spiritual philosophy in practice these days, was created by men. It shows that while we may not have some of the intuitive benefits of the female mind, we have an enormous, and fairly socially hidden connection with our serotoergic minds aka spiritual centers. Does that mean women are not capable of this connection? Not at all. What it does point to, and I do want to emphasize that, because I don't believe this proven, just my thoughts and feelings, is that men are more spiritually aware than women, at least in certain respects.

I do think that women surpass men in areas of intuition and other areas of the vast array of complexities hidden within the spiritual centers of the mind, both of which are extremely important, and invaluable to the functioning of the universe. We are both equally amazing machines; man and woman. Both, equally important. We are all one.

hf
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Sry, left out shill also. Moran or shill... Yes, I know the common way to say it hear, just my observation., that's all.
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here* bah! I swear I unconsciously do that. Perhaps I am a Moran.... lol
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I could never get into the whole soul thing, at least in the stereotypical sense. However, I feel the truth may be somewhere in the middle on this one!

You are on a good path, keep on it. There is something about you that reminds me of myself, and that worries me! Lol
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That is how we should view all new information. Don't believe anything I say as truth! Listen to what you are told. Find some quiet time alone and see what your heart tells you about this idea. If it feels right, keep it close to you. If it feels wrong, toss it aside and move on.

That is the only truth that you will ever find in this life.

If anything that I have said feels right in your heart, start searching.

If you want to read more about what I have said here, look up other threads that I have started by clicking on my handle "1123581321". Just keep searching and listening to your heart. No one can tell you the truth, but you!

Peace
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I will search you up. Very good advice, I strongly agree with everything you've states. Thanks you sir.
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Why do you have reservations about Tolle? Just curious, I am reading The power of Now currently. I fing it very good so far.

Tough to live with no ego in todays ego driven world. It seems like the ego is being reved up even more everyday and we are floating further and further from the real truth of conscience.
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There was nothing that I read in his two books, The Power of Now and A New Earth that I disagree with. I can honestly say that he changed my life.

I just don't like that many are trying to turn him into a guru. He does these conferences with thousands sitting as if they are in the audience of a God. He then has the bell at the beginning thing.

Anyway, his books are spot on! He is telling real truth. Just take his message and don't worship the author...

His books, especially A New Earth will change you. At least I hope it does.

Peace

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Intelligence is knowing what to do.

Wisdom is knowing what NOT to do.
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Why do you have reservations about Tolle? Just curious, I am reading The power of Now currently. I fing it very good so far.

Tough to live with no ego in todays ego driven world. It seems like the ego is being reved up even more everyday and we are floating further and further from the real truth of conscience.
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There was nothing that I read in his two books, The Power of Now and A New Earth that I disagree with. I can honestly say that he changed my life.

I just don't like that many are trying to turn him into a guru. He does these conferences with thousands sitting as if they are in the audience of a God. He then has the bell at the beginning thing.

Anyway, his books are spot on! He is telling real truth. Just take his message and don't worship the author...

His books, especially A New Earth will change you. At least I hope it does.

Peace
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How does A New Earth differ from The Power Of Now?

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How does A New Earth differ from The Power Of Now?

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The Power of Now was his first book. The views he has in A New Earth are exactly the same message. He just seems to have refined his understanding of the information and presented it in a more eloquent way.

So, to answer your question, both books are saying the same message and don't contradict one another, but A New Earth is very well written and more of a "how to" book instead of mostly questions and answers from his conferences.

I hope that helped.

Peace
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Intelligence is knowing what to do.

Wisdom is knowing what NOT to do.
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Go deeper...
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Tough to live with no ego in todays ego driven world. It seems like the ego is being reved up even more everyday and we are floating further and further from the real truth of conscience.
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Yes, it is tough. As I hinted to in one post earlier, we are being bombarded right now we hate, fear and anger from an evil group that I will only refer to as our adversaries. They are "hacking" or introducing thoughts into our minds that cause us to be afraid and to see the world as a dangerous and scary place. The bombardment comes from TV, music, cell phones and even from radio frequencies from all around us.

It is being increased at an enormous rate now. That is because people are beginning to awaken and they feel it has to be stopped at all cost. It scares them to death...

I know, I know. This is a big jump for many to grasp.

As always, just listen to your heart and decide for yourself...

Peace

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I will search you up. Very good advice, I strongly agree with everything you've states. Thanks you sir.
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You are very welcome my friend.
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the heart lays down a path.
the brain decides whether to follow or not.

clue, . .joy or not joy?
which shall it be?
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the heart lays down a path.
the brain decides whether to follow or not.

clue, . .joy or not joy?
which shall it be?
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A little simplistic, but true. It is about choice. The mind/ego is only concerned with me/mine/greed/wants. So we can follow the loving guidance of the heart or ignore it and "want".

The heart also provides loving "nudges" at times if we can quiet the mind for just a little while and listen. Most of the time we don't and are led astray.

Whenever I stopped the mind's constant noise and listen to the subtle message of my heart, it never leads me astray. If I get afraid, angry or greedy and listen to my mind/ego, it always bites me in the ass! Never fails...
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the heart lays down a path.
the brain decides whether to follow or not.

clue, . .joy or not joy?
which shall it be?
[/q.uote]

A little simplistic, but true. It is about choice. The mind/ego is only concerned with me/mine/greed/wants. So we can follow the loving guidance of the heart or ignore it and "want".

The heart also provides loving "nudges" at times if we can quiet the mind for just a little while and listen. Most of the time we don't and are led astray.

Whenever I stopped the mind's constant noise and listen to the subtle message of my heart, it never leads me astray. If I get afraid, angry or greedy and listen to my mind/ego, it always bites me in the ass! Never fails...
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like plants grow toward light, . .
all spirit grows toward joy.

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like plants grow toward light, . .
all spirit grows toward joy.


dig your posts and threads.
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Yes!

And thank you. My only purpose in being here is to provide a gentle nudge for people. If they resonate with what I say, then maybe they will look further on their own.

Peace and love my friend.
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""your mind is your enemy""

Given some of the truely epic battles I've had with it...

.......yeah.


I've had my ass handed to me by lesser foes.
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""your mind is your enemy""

Given some of the truely epic battles I've had with it...

.......yeah.


I've had my ass handed to me by lesser foes.
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*grin* Yeah, me too.
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Listening to our mind/ego is why the world is in the shape it is now
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this is the egos world you don't like it then go back to your little paradise in the sky lol





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