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A Good News Story.. there are people out there generating change! i.e. an edible forest!!

 
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Seems like a worthwhile project for the local community. Kudos to them.

Localism over globalism.
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Unless it is sponsored by MONSANTO through some sinister connection... would they let this become a precedent?
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Maybe it is allowed because it's in the Fukishimo radiation heavy fall out zone.
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Seems like a worthwhile project for the local community. Kudos to them.

Localism over globalism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Cowherder


Unless it is sponsored by MONSANTO through some sinister connection... would they let this become a precedent?
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I have a hilarious email response from Monsanto when I requested a list of their "products" because I wanted to avoid them.

I keep it just to show my farmer friends for fun.
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This is not a new concept. Lots of places in the Mediterranean have free food growing on public land. In Jerusalem, the city parks are shaded with olive trees - pick as many 5 liter jars as you like. The sidewalks have rosemary bushes planted on the edges.
I was riding an empty evening bus in Beth Shean, Israel, when we got a red light in the left hand lane beside a median strip that was planted with date palms. The driver looked at me and said, "I'm going home after we get to the terminal." Then he grabbed a big machete from beside his seat, jumps out of the bus, chops off two or three great big clusters of dates and fills up the first passenger bench before continuing on.
Also Beduin shepherd are allowed to graze their flocks in public parks in Be'er Sheba. It makes for a lot of goat shit, but they don't have to mow the lawns.

I don't think that this is an Israeli concept. Immigrants brought the idea from Morocco, Yemen, Libya, and Iraq.
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Seems like a worthwhile project for the local community. Kudos to them.

Localism over globalism.
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Unless it is sponsored by MONSANTO through some sinister connection... would they let this become a precedent?
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Spread their GMO lines through cross-pollination of the native, non-GMO fruit trees? I could see Monsanto doing that, and then working to ensure "success" so the idea spreads.

due diligence would be required, as it always is....

when handled at the local level, it would be easier to maintain the integrity of the supply chain and vet those involved.
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Seems like a worthwhile project for the local community. Kudos to them.

Localism over globalism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Cowherder


Unless it is sponsored by MONSANTO through some sinister connection... would they let this become a precedent?
 Quoting: Dynamitrios


I have a hilarious email response from Monsanto when I requested a list of their "products" because I wanted to avoid them.

I keep it just to show my farmer friends for fun.
 Quoting: Madame X


Madame X. Did they send it to you electronically? If so... feel free to share it with us. I’d love to see it and I’m sure I’m not alone.
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Seems like a worthwhile project for the local community. Kudos to them.

Localism over globalism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Cowherder


Unless it is sponsored by MONSANTO through some sinister connection... would they let this become a precedent?
 Quoting: Dynamitrios


I have a hilarious email response from Monsanto when I requested a list of their "products" because I wanted to avoid them.

I keep it just to show my farmer friends for fun.
 Quoting: Madame X


Madame X. Did they send it to you electronically? If so... feel free to share it with us. I’d love to see it and I’m sure I’m not alone.
 Quoting: my2centsworth


Okay, here you go, havn't shared it with the GLP crowd yet, but what the heck. I removed the responders name on purpose.

Email response below.....


Sorry for the delay in responding. I think this probably got lost in my email.


Monsanto is an agricultural company. Our core crops that could be utilized by food companies as ingredients in processed products would be cotton, corn, soybeans and canola. We have also provided our technology to other seed companies who have businesses that focus on forage (alfalfa for feed) and sugarbeets.



So, if you want to avoid any likelihood of consuming any product that may contain a food ingredient that may have been derived from a biotech agricultural crop, then you would need to read the label and if there is any corn, cotton, soybean, canola oil or meal, it will likely be from a crop grown by a farmer who has planted genetically modified seed.



There are several other significant agricultural seed companies that operate in North America that also provide biotech seeds to farmers and the nature of agriculture production, distribution and processing is that crops are “pooled” so regardless of how they are produced they are pooled and then processed so it may be that the resulting end product utilized by a food company may be a combination of both conventional and biotech varieties. In some cases with specialty oil canola and soybeans, the products are identity preserved because they provide a specific value (i.e. healthier oil profile, reduced transfats etc) which are then targeted to a specific food company.



The same would apply to the use of pesticides in agriculture. They are widely used by farmers (organic growers aside) to protect yield and plant health for both economic and environmental reasons. I am happy to direct you to resources on this subject if you are interested.



Is the nature of your question food safety? Ie.. you perceive that food products that may contain biotech crop ingredients or protected with pesticides are somehow less safe for you?



If you help me understand the nature of your inquiry a bit better, then maybe I can direct you to some additional resources that may be helpful in addressing any concerns or questions you may have.



On your question re: consent of information we do not keep or forward or share that information externally. That clause in our website gives us your consent to send your inquiry to the appropriate person internally to answer your question..which is how I got your email below.


TXXXX JXXXXX

Monsanto Canada

Last Edited by Madame X on 04/16/2012 08:33 PM
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I cant wait to see videos of people fighting and killing each other over free food. People are greedy and will kill each other over this! I can't wait for it!

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YEAH AND OL' YUL DIED OF STOMACH CANCER FROM ALL THE STRANGE STUFF HE ATE..
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Unless it is sponsored by MONSANTO through some sinister connection... would they let this become a precedent?
 Quoting: Dynamitrios


I have a hilarious email response from Monsanto when I requested a list of their "products" because I wanted to avoid them.

I keep it just to show my farmer friends for fun.
 Quoting: Madame X


Madame X. Did they send it to you electronically? If so... feel free to share it with us. I’d love to see it and I’m sure I’m not alone.
 Quoting: my2centsworth


Okay, here you go, havn't shared it with the GLP crowd yet, but what the heck. I removed the responders name on purpose.

Email response below.....


Sorry for the delay in responding. I think this probably got lost in my email.


Monsanto is an agricultural company. Our core crops that could be utilized by food companies as ingredients in processed products would be cotton, corn, soybeans and canola. We have also provided our technology to other seed companies who have businesses that focus on forage (alfalfa for feed) and sugarbeets.



So, if you want to avoid any likelihood of consuming any product that may contain a food ingredient that may have been derived from a biotech agricultural crop, then you would need to read the label and if there is any corn, cotton, soybean, canola oil or meal, it will likely be from a crop grown by a farmer who has planted genetically modified seed.



There are several other significant agricultural seed companies that operate in North America that also provide biotech seeds to farmers and the nature of agriculture production, distribution and processing is that crops are “pooled” so regardless of how they are produced they are pooled and then processed so it may be that the resulting end product utilized by a food company may be a combination of both conventional and biotech varieties. In some cases with specialty oil canola and soybeans, the products are identity preserved because they provide a specific value (i.e. healthier oil profile, reduced transfats etc) which are then targeted to a specific food company.



The same would apply to the use of pesticides in agriculture. They are widely used by farmers (organic growers aside) to protect yield and plant health for both economic and environmental reasons. I am happy to direct you to resources on this subject if you are interested.



Is the nature of your question food safety? Ie.. you perceive that food products that may contain biotech crop ingredients or protected with pesticides are somehow less safe for you?



If you help me understand the nature of your inquiry a bit better, then maybe I can direct you to some additional resources that may be helpful in addressing any concerns or questions you may have.



On your question re: consent of information we do not keep or forward or share that information externally. That clause in our website gives us your consent to send your inquiry to the appropriate person internally to answer your question..which is how I got your email below.


TXXXX JXXXXX

Monsanto Canada
 Quoting: Madame X


Oh, wow! What a way to say,
"there is no way to guarentee our food is Genetically Modified Food free."

What a crock!

It amazes me that they mix the non GMO crops with the GMO crops after harvest.

The food industry sure doesn't advertise that, does it?
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COOL! I just moved from Seattle. Born and raised there.


What about Carkeek park? They mention nothing in there about existing parks with fruit trees already there. Carkeek was a homestead originally. After some volunteers cleared out the black berries they found apple, pear, and plum trees. Some of the apples taste like they already have cinnomon in them.

There are other parks around town with lot's of fruit trees and berry bushes.

I hope they plant salal and kinikinik. Those are native plants and their berries are edible.
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Wow! Do the people of Seattle know how lucky they are to have such a forward thinking parks department and council?
That is so great.
 Quoting: my2centsworth


lol

I dont see this ending well.
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I found the response to be rather funny.

True that they basically said we are fucked, but wanted to know so badly why I wanted to know.

I took her list to heart and now avoid those foods.
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The Birds are gonna eat all the Berrys and the Homeless will eat everything else..
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Until some psycho ends up spraying the trees with chemicals to kill the trees out of spite... or worse yet, sprays the fruits with something to sicken or kill anyone eating the fruit. Then the place will be bulldozed, the trees burned, and the land paved as a parking lot.
 Quoting: Dr. Anomaly


Well, let's not put the idea in their heads!

God knows.. it's a wonderful plan.. it would be horrible to have some idiot ruin it for everyone else.
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they have ruined whole countries
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The Birds are gonna eat all the Berrys and the Homeless will eat everything else..
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Until some psycho ends up spraying the trees with chemicals to kill the trees out of spite... or worse yet, sprays the fruits with something to sicken or kill anyone eating the fruit. Then the place will be bulldozed, the trees burned, and the land paved as a parking lot.
 Quoting: Dr. Anomaly


Well, let's not put the idea in their heads!

God knows.. it's a wonderful plan.. it would be horrible to have some idiot ruin it for everyone else.
 Quoting: my2centsworth


they have ruined whole countries
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13460690


You have to stay positive.

Plant a garden, the more the merrier!!
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Seattle Creating Massive Edible Forest Filled with Free Food

Taking the urban garden to the next level, Seattle, Washington has officially broken ground on a dedicated seven acre area of city land set to be converted into an “edible forest” that will produce free food for the city’s residents and visitors, human or otherwise.

This article with pictures, is worth the read.. a wonderful action taken by this city!

[link to wakeup-world.com]
 Quoting: my2centsworth


Full of Monsanto engineered plants...
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Seattle Creating Massive Edible Forest Filled with Free Food

Taking the urban garden to the next level, Seattle, Washington has officially broken ground on a dedicated seven acre area of city land set to be converted into an “edible forest” that will produce free food for the city’s residents and visitors, human or otherwise.

This article with pictures, is worth the read.. a wonderful action taken by this city!

[link to wakeup-world.com]
 Quoting: my2centsworth


Full of Monsanto engineered plants...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10883673


I sure hope not.
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Seattle Creating Massive Edible Forest Filled with Free Food

Taking the urban garden to the next level, Seattle, Washington has officially broken ground on a dedicated seven acre area of city land set to be converted into an “edible forest” that will produce free food for the city’s residents and visitors, human or otherwise.

This article with pictures, is worth the read.. a wonderful action taken by this city!

[link to wakeup-world.com]
 Quoting: my2centsworth


Full of Monsanto engineered plants...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10883673


I sure hope not.
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This is my user name :-) I love the idea and I shouldn't reach to the negative. Love and light.
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[link to www.youtube.com]


[link to www.youtube.com]

[link to www.youtube.com]
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Thanks for the links, very nice.
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Wonderful videos, about other edible forests in the world. Thanks so much for sharing AC.

stone thankyou
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Dr Anomoly.. you should read AC's post.. looks like there are other parks in Seattle that already have this happening in them.. all is still well with the world... maybe the vandels like to eat the fruit, nuts and berries as well... lets hope so.. that will keep them (the edible plants) safe from harm.
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I did read it. And just in case there has been any misunderstanding, I think the idea is a great one. I grew up a farm boy myself and am currently living in an area where I cannot have a garden (apartment complex) and I miss having one... a lot.

The thing is, with the way the world is today, I've become either cynical enough or realist enough (take your pick) to believe that anything left open and exposed for the good of all will be destroyed by someone just for the hell of it. If it hasn't happened yet, it's because it's not come to the attention of the general populous at an everyday, man-on-the-street level. As soon as it gets enough notice/publicity at that level, then it's doomed because of self-centered bastards who will destroy it just because they can.
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