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Anonymous Coward User ID: 11876727 United States 04/16/2012 07:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seems like a worthwhile project for the local community. Kudos to them. Quoting: Anonymous Cowherder Localism over globalism. Unless it is sponsored by MONSANTO through some sinister connection... would they let this become a precedent? Maybe it is allowed because it's in the Fukishimo radiation heavy fall out zone. |
Madame X
User ID: 1442220 Canada 04/16/2012 07:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seems like a worthwhile project for the local community. Kudos to them. Quoting: Anonymous Cowherder Localism over globalism. Unless it is sponsored by MONSANTO through some sinister connection... would they let this become a precedent? I have a hilarious email response from Monsanto when I requested a list of their "products" because I wanted to avoid them. I keep it just to show my farmer friends for fun. "The wise man's home is the universe." ~ Democrites Catch the blue train...somewhere down that crazy river. |
tranny witch nli User ID: 1432972 Canada 04/16/2012 08:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is not a new concept. Lots of places in the Mediterranean have free food growing on public land. In Jerusalem, the city parks are shaded with olive trees - pick as many 5 liter jars as you like. The sidewalks have rosemary bushes planted on the edges. I was riding an empty evening bus in Beth Shean, Israel, when we got a red light in the left hand lane beside a median strip that was planted with date palms. The driver looked at me and said, "I'm going home after we get to the terminal." Then he grabbed a big machete from beside his seat, jumps out of the bus, chops off two or three great big clusters of dates and fills up the first passenger bench before continuing on. Also Beduin shepherd are allowed to graze their flocks in public parks in Be'er Sheba. It makes for a lot of goat shit, but they don't have to mow the lawns. I don't think that this is an Israeli concept. Immigrants brought the idea from Morocco, Yemen, Libya, and Iraq. |
Anonymous Cowherder
Stop the inanity! User ID: 2245483 United States 04/16/2012 08:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seems like a worthwhile project for the local community. Kudos to them. Quoting: Anonymous Cowherder Localism over globalism. Unless it is sponsored by MONSANTO through some sinister connection... would they let this become a precedent? Spread their GMO lines through cross-pollination of the native, non-GMO fruit trees? I could see Monsanto doing that, and then working to ensure "success" so the idea spreads. due diligence would be required, as it always is.... when handled at the local level, it would be easier to maintain the integrity of the supply chain and vet those involved. Repeal the 17th Amendment and the Reapportionment Act of 1929! Thread: First steps down the road to a return to the Constitutional Republic that we were intended to be. Restore the Republic. Thread: The Bill of Rights does NOT include age requirements! It's a flower, not something to be feared. - Moo! |
my2centsworth
(OP) User ID: 5382682 Canada 04/16/2012 08:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seems like a worthwhile project for the local community. Kudos to them. Quoting: Anonymous Cowherder Localism over globalism. Unless it is sponsored by MONSANTO through some sinister connection... would they let this become a precedent? I have a hilarious email response from Monsanto when I requested a list of their "products" because I wanted to avoid them. I keep it just to show my farmer friends for fun. Madame X. Did they send it to you electronically? If so... feel free to share it with us. I’d love to see it and I’m sure I’m not alone. |
Madame X
User ID: 1442220 Canada 04/16/2012 08:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seems like a worthwhile project for the local community. Kudos to them. Quoting: Anonymous Cowherder Localism over globalism. Unless it is sponsored by MONSANTO through some sinister connection... would they let this become a precedent? I have a hilarious email response from Monsanto when I requested a list of their "products" because I wanted to avoid them. I keep it just to show my farmer friends for fun. Madame X. Did they send it to you electronically? If so... feel free to share it with us. I’d love to see it and I’m sure I’m not alone. Okay, here you go, havn't shared it with the GLP crowd yet, but what the heck. I removed the responders name on purpose. Email response below..... Sorry for the delay in responding. I think this probably got lost in my email. Monsanto is an agricultural company. Our core crops that could be utilized by food companies as ingredients in processed products would be cotton, corn, soybeans and canola. We have also provided our technology to other seed companies who have businesses that focus on forage (alfalfa for feed) and sugarbeets. So, if you want to avoid any likelihood of consuming any product that may contain a food ingredient that may have been derived from a biotech agricultural crop, then you would need to read the label and if there is any corn, cotton, soybean, canola oil or meal, it will likely be from a crop grown by a farmer who has planted genetically modified seed. There are several other significant agricultural seed companies that operate in North America that also provide biotech seeds to farmers and the nature of agriculture production, distribution and processing is that crops are “pooled” so regardless of how they are produced they are pooled and then processed so it may be that the resulting end product utilized by a food company may be a combination of both conventional and biotech varieties. In some cases with specialty oil canola and soybeans, the products are identity preserved because they provide a specific value (i.e. healthier oil profile, reduced transfats etc) which are then targeted to a specific food company. The same would apply to the use of pesticides in agriculture. They are widely used by farmers (organic growers aside) to protect yield and plant health for both economic and environmental reasons. I am happy to direct you to resources on this subject if you are interested. Is the nature of your question food safety? Ie.. you perceive that food products that may contain biotech crop ingredients or protected with pesticides are somehow less safe for you? If you help me understand the nature of your inquiry a bit better, then maybe I can direct you to some additional resources that may be helpful in addressing any concerns or questions you may have. On your question re: consent of information we do not keep or forward or share that information externally. That clause in our website gives us your consent to send your inquiry to the appropriate person internally to answer your question..which is how I got your email below. TXXXX JXXXXX Monsanto Canada Last Edited by Madame X on 04/16/2012 08:33 PM "The wise man's home is the universe." ~ Democrites Catch the blue train...somewhere down that crazy river. |
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my2centsworth
(OP) User ID: 5382682 Canada 04/16/2012 08:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dynamitrios Unless it is sponsored by MONSANTO through some sinister connection... would they let this become a precedent? I have a hilarious email response from Monsanto when I requested a list of their "products" because I wanted to avoid them. I keep it just to show my farmer friends for fun. Madame X. Did they send it to you electronically? If so... feel free to share it with us. I’d love to see it and I’m sure I’m not alone. Okay, here you go, havn't shared it with the GLP crowd yet, but what the heck. I removed the responders name on purpose. Email response below..... Sorry for the delay in responding. I think this probably got lost in my email. Monsanto is an agricultural company. Our core crops that could be utilized by food companies as ingredients in processed products would be cotton, corn, soybeans and canola. We have also provided our technology to other seed companies who have businesses that focus on forage (alfalfa for feed) and sugarbeets. So, if you want to avoid any likelihood of consuming any product that may contain a food ingredient that may have been derived from a biotech agricultural crop, then you would need to read the label and if there is any corn, cotton, soybean, canola oil or meal, it will likely be from a crop grown by a farmer who has planted genetically modified seed. There are several other significant agricultural seed companies that operate in North America that also provide biotech seeds to farmers and the nature of agriculture production, distribution and processing is that crops are “pooled” so regardless of how they are produced they are pooled and then processed so it may be that the resulting end product utilized by a food company may be a combination of both conventional and biotech varieties. In some cases with specialty oil canola and soybeans, the products are identity preserved because they provide a specific value (i.e. healthier oil profile, reduced transfats etc) which are then targeted to a specific food company. The same would apply to the use of pesticides in agriculture. They are widely used by farmers (organic growers aside) to protect yield and plant health for both economic and environmental reasons. I am happy to direct you to resources on this subject if you are interested. Is the nature of your question food safety? Ie.. you perceive that food products that may contain biotech crop ingredients or protected with pesticides are somehow less safe for you? If you help me understand the nature of your inquiry a bit better, then maybe I can direct you to some additional resources that may be helpful in addressing any concerns or questions you may have. On your question re: consent of information we do not keep or forward or share that information externally. That clause in our website gives us your consent to send your inquiry to the appropriate person internally to answer your question..which is how I got your email below. TXXXX JXXXXX Monsanto Canada Oh, wow! What a way to say, "there is no way to guarentee our food is Genetically Modified Food free." What a crock! It amazes me that they mix the non GMO crops with the GMO crops after harvest. The food industry sure doesn't advertise that, does it? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13460690 Australia 04/16/2012 08:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | COOL! I just moved from Seattle. Born and raised there. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11562800 What about Carkeek park? They mention nothing in there about existing parks with fruit trees already there. Carkeek was a homestead originally. After some volunteers cleared out the black berries they found apple, pear, and plum trees. Some of the apples taste like they already have cinnomon in them. There are other parks around town with lot's of fruit trees and berry bushes. I hope they plant salal and kinikinik. Those are native plants and their berries are edible. Wow! Do the people of Seattle know how lucky they are to have such a forward thinking parks department and council? That is so great. I dont see this ending well. |
Madame X
User ID: 1442220 Canada 04/16/2012 08:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I found the response to be rather funny. True that they basically said we are fucked, but wanted to know so badly why I wanted to know. I took her list to heart and now avoid those foods. "The wise man's home is the universe." ~ Democrites Catch the blue train...somewhere down that crazy river. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13460690 Australia 04/16/2012 08:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Birds are gonna eat all the Berrys and the Homeless will eat everything else.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13204508 Until some psycho ends up spraying the trees with chemicals to kill the trees out of spite... or worse yet, sprays the fruits with something to sicken or kill anyone eating the fruit. Then the place will be bulldozed, the trees burned, and the land paved as a parking lot. Well, let's not put the idea in their heads! God knows.. it's a wonderful plan.. it would be horrible to have some idiot ruin it for everyone else. they have ruined whole countries |
Madame X
User ID: 1442220 Canada 04/16/2012 08:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Birds are gonna eat all the Berrys and the Homeless will eat everything else.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13204508 Until some psycho ends up spraying the trees with chemicals to kill the trees out of spite... or worse yet, sprays the fruits with something to sicken or kill anyone eating the fruit. Then the place will be bulldozed, the trees burned, and the land paved as a parking lot. Well, let's not put the idea in their heads! God knows.. it's a wonderful plan.. it would be horrible to have some idiot ruin it for everyone else. they have ruined whole countries You have to stay positive. Plant a garden, the more the merrier!! "The wise man's home is the universe." ~ Democrites Catch the blue train...somewhere down that crazy river. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10883673 United States 04/16/2012 09:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seattle Creating Massive Edible Forest Filled with Free Food Quoting: my2centsworth Taking the urban garden to the next level, Seattle, Washington has officially broken ground on a dedicated seven acre area of city land set to be converted into an “edible forest” that will produce free food for the city’s residents and visitors, human or otherwise. This article with pictures, is worth the read.. a wonderful action taken by this city! [link to wakeup-world.com] Full of Monsanto engineered plants... |
my2centsworth
(OP) User ID: 5382682 Canada 04/16/2012 09:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seattle Creating Massive Edible Forest Filled with Free Food Quoting: my2centsworth Taking the urban garden to the next level, Seattle, Washington has officially broken ground on a dedicated seven acre area of city land set to be converted into an “edible forest” that will produce free food for the city’s residents and visitors, human or otherwise. This article with pictures, is worth the read.. a wonderful action taken by this city! [link to wakeup-world.com] Full of Monsanto engineered plants... I sure hope not. |
healinghands88 User ID: 10883673 United States 04/16/2012 09:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seattle Creating Massive Edible Forest Filled with Free Food Quoting: my2centsworth Taking the urban garden to the next level, Seattle, Washington has officially broken ground on a dedicated seven acre area of city land set to be converted into an “edible forest” that will produce free food for the city’s residents and visitors, human or otherwise. This article with pictures, is worth the read.. a wonderful action taken by this city! [link to wakeup-world.com] Full of Monsanto engineered plants... I sure hope not. This is my user name :-) I love the idea and I shouldn't reach to the negative. Love and light. |
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Madame X
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Dr. Anomaly
User ID: 956215 United States 04/17/2012 09:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dr Anomoly.. you should read AC's post.. looks like there are other parks in Seattle that already have this happening in them.. all is still well with the world... maybe the vandels like to eat the fruit, nuts and berries as well... lets hope so.. that will keep them (the edible plants) safe from harm. Quoting: my2centsworth I did read it. And just in case there has been any misunderstanding, I think the idea is a great one. I grew up a farm boy myself and am currently living in an area where I cannot have a garden (apartment complex) and I miss having one... a lot. The thing is, with the way the world is today, I've become either cynical enough or realist enough (take your pick) to believe that anything left open and exposed for the good of all will be destroyed by someone just for the hell of it. If it hasn't happened yet, it's because it's not come to the attention of the general populous at an everyday, man-on-the-street level. As soon as it gets enough notice/publicity at that level, then it's doomed because of self-centered bastards who will destroy it just because they can. Three Bribes for the Democrats sneaky and sly, Seven for the Bankers in their halls of gold, Nine for Labor Unions sucking us dry, One for the Liar Chief leaving us cold In Washington D.C. where politicians lie. One Bill to rule them all, One Bill to find them, One Bill to bring them all and in the debt-ness bind them In Washington D.C. where politicians lie. |
Just miffed
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