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(OP) User ID: 11589748 United States 04/02/2012 06:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: No one is coming to save you. No one can show you the right path. No one will end your suffering. No one will change the world. "Only as a warrior can one survive the path of knowledge. Because the art of a warrior is to balance the terror of being a man with the wonder of being a man." -- Carlos Castaneda in Journey to Ixtlan |
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(OP) User ID: 11589748 United States 04/02/2012 06:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: No one is coming to save you. No one can show you the right path. No one will end your suffering. No one will change the world. There is an old gospel song that goes like this: You gotta to walk that lonesome valley You gotta walk it by yourself Nobody else can walk it for you You gotta walk it by yourself I have stated in other threads that we are all One and are all brothers and sisters created from the One True Creator. That is true, but our journey for truth is a solitary one. So many people today feel lost and alone and want so desperately for someone to tell them what to do with their lives or what to believe. To ever find your true path through this amazing labyrinth we call life, we each must at some point stand up and take full responsibility for our lives and to be brave enough to find the truth for ourselves. No one can do this for us. I see so many people wanting doctors to heal them, priests or preachers to save them, politicians to rule them, gurus to enlighten them, police and the military to protect them, teachers to teach them. It is not until we stand up and refuse to be afraid that we begin to find our way out of the wilderness. We came into this world to be tested. We understood that the test would not be an easy one. Now that we are here, we have forgotten our true mission and how important it is to stand up, be brave and follow our hearts. That is the only way we will ever accomplish our mission here. No one can save us or show us the true path. Stand up and start walking. You will find your true path if you listen to your heart and don't look to others to find it for you. Peace, Fibonacci |
Visitor User ID: 1354586 United States 04/02/2012 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: No one is coming to save you. No one can show you the right path. No one will end your suffering. No one will change the world. John 3:16-17 King James Version (KJV) 16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. |
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(OP) User ID: 11589748 United States 04/02/2012 06:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: No one is coming to save you. No one can show you the right path. No one will end your suffering. No one will change the world. Quote: "Sorry, I disagree with you and your statement." It is completely ok to disagree with me my friend. At least you are doing what your heart tells you is right. I have no problem with that. All I would ask anyone to do, is to listen to all points of view and do what feels right for them. We each must follow our own path through these amazing times. I honor your views. Peace Last Edited by 1123581321 on 04/02/2012 06:33 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12110458 United Kingdom 04/02/2012 06:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: No one is coming to save you. No one can show you the right path. No one will end your suffering. No one will change the world. "The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full." "He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life." "For my Father's will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day." "But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name." "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." "This is how God showed his love among us: He sent his one and only Son into the world that we might live through him." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7343509 United States 04/02/2012 06:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: No one is coming to save you. No one can show you the right path. No one will end your suffering. No one will change the world. As humans..many fall into the "father" complex. Always looking for a "father" figure to follow and be devoted to, whether it is God, Jesus, The Pope, The President...etc, etc. We must look within, because basically WE ARE ENERGY BEINGS. Energy is never created (except originally) and never destroyed...it is only transmuted. You can verify that fact very easily through science. The Laws of Nature invariably tells us that it applies to us. Therefore, we are Transmuted, transformed into another form of energy upon the death of our physical. It is pretty darn simple and logical and based on the Universal Laws when you really stop and think about it! Now the question is....is our transmuted energy "conscious"?? It must be, that is where GOD or THE MIND OF GOD comes into play...we are all WITHIN THE MIND OF GOD...GOD Consciousness. I don't know if Satan and Jesus are real...perhaps they are true essences, like positive and negative that you can polarize to...That part, I'm still thinking about. What I do know, is all the dogma and fear mongering related to God, Jesus and Satan is ridiculous. Other Clear thinkers would be appreciated! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13378904 Australia 04/02/2012 06:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: No one is coming to save you. No one can show you the right path. No one will end your suffering. No one will change the world. Okay, I'll dip in on this one! I was raised and educated in the catholic teachings, or should I say brain washed, never really did take it seriosly though! So I know both sides of the debate. Recently I was suddenly awakened, like snapped awake via, lets just say forces or magic beyond my control, or a personal alarm clock, that was due to go off and it manifested in the physical!!! Since this time I can tell you absolutely everything that we have been taught about anything is an absolute lie! I have witness, myself becoming engulfed in a wave of energy and my reflection disappear before my eyes and reappear in a wave of energy. Also have witnessed my self appear as different beings!! I know that one is hard to beleive but I don't care its all true and mankind will soon discover we are not what we think we are!!! Every night, my room is a vortex of energy, which swirls and transmits information to me, I am truely not really what I thought I was and that is a MERE MORTAL We ARE SOMETHING MUCH MUCH BIGGER!! WE are a powerful eternal energy source of such magnitude that it is hard to discribe, however, the vast majority of the population will never discover their true power, for they are not willing to do the inner work to face the dark within, we will face anything, that is outside of ourselves, but we will not face our true selves that resides within us!!! We have to do this to become whole!! |
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(OP) User ID: 11589748 United States 04/02/2012 06:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: No one is coming to save you. No one can show you the right path. No one will end your suffering. No one will change the world. As humans..many fall into the "father" complex. Always looking for a "father" figure to follow and be devoted to, whether it is God, Jesus, The Pope, The President...etc, etc. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7343509 We must look within, because basically WE ARE ENERGY BEINGS. Energy is never created (except originally) and never destroyed...it is only transmuted. You can verify that fact very easily through science. The Laws of Nature invariably tells us that it applies to us. Therefore, we are Transmuted, transformed into another form of energy upon the death of our physical. It is pretty darn simple and logical and based on the Universal Laws when you really stop and think about it! Now the question is....is our transmuted energy "conscious"?? It must be, that is where GOD or THE MIND OF GOD comes into play...we are all WITHIN THE MIND OF GOD...GOD Consciousness. I don't know if Satan and Jesus are real...perhaps they are true essences, like positive and negative that you can polarize to...That part, I'm still thinking about. What I do know, is all the dogma and fear mongering related to God, Jesus and Satan is ridiculous. Other Clear thinkers would be appreciated! Well said! Thanks. Following dogma means that we are not following our own path, but the path of others. That is how we are controlled and kept enslaved. |
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User ID: 3643288 United States 04/02/2012 06:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: No one is coming to save you. No one can show you the right path. No one will end your suffering. No one will change the world. The secret of going through the spiritual process without going mad is the heartfelt release of fear. _____________________________________ Even the structure of the atom has been found by the mind. Therefore the mind is subtler than the atom. That which is behind the mind, namely the individual soul, is subtler than the mind. -Ramana |
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(OP) User ID: 11589748 United States 04/02/2012 06:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: No one is coming to save you. No one can show you the right path. No one will end your suffering. No one will change the world. The secret of going through the spiritual process without going mad is the heartfelt release of fear. Quoting: Stu Very wise remark. Thank you. Yes, fear is our most difficult challenge. Last Edited by 1123581321 on 04/02/2012 07:06 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13675219 Spain 04/02/2012 07:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: No one is coming to save you. No one can show you the right path. No one will end your suffering. No one will change the world. As humans..many fall into the "father" complex. Always looking for a "father" figure to follow and be devoted to, whether it is God, Jesus, The Pope, The President...etc, etc. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7343509 We must look within, because basically WE ARE ENERGY BEINGS. Energy is never created (except originally) and never destroyed...it is only transmuted. You can verify that fact very easily through science. The Laws of Nature invariably tells us that it applies to us. Therefore, we are Transmuted, transformed into another form of energy upon the death of our physical. It is pretty darn simple and logical and based on the Universal Laws when you really stop and think about it! Now the question is....is our transmuted energy "conscious"?? It must be, that is where GOD or THE MIND OF GOD comes into play...we are all WITHIN THE MIND OF GOD...GOD Consciousness. I don't know if Satan and Jesus are real...perhaps they are true essences, like positive and negative that you can polarize to...That part, I'm still thinking about. What I do know, is all the dogma and fear mongering related to God, Jesus and Satan is ridiculous. Other Clear thinkers would be appreciated! Seeds are not energy, likewise spirit isn't either. You want it clearer? Well, you were created. and energy is only a function of MATTER, not you,.. you just use it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 13675219 Spain 04/02/2012 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: No one is coming to save you. No one can show you the right path. No one will end your suffering. No one will change the world. The secret of going through the spiritual process without going mad is the heartfelt release of fear. Quoting: Stu Very wise remark. Thank you. Yes, fear is our must difficult challenge. your sleeping soul dreams up your phantoms, while bathing in the beams of light. |
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(OP) User ID: 11589748 United States 04/02/2012 07:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: No one is coming to save you. No one can show you the right path. No one will end your suffering. No one will change the world. The secret of going through the spiritual process without going mad is the heartfelt release of fear. Quoting: Stu Very wise remark. Thank you. Yes, fear is our must difficult challenge. your sleeping soul dreams up your phantoms, while bathing in the beams of light. For what purpose? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13675219 Spain 04/02/2012 07:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: No one is coming to save you. No one can show you the right path. No one will end your suffering. No one will change the world. illusion has no purpose for your benefit. op. but the only truth is that one must be SAVED, and the other truth is that it ultimately doesn't depend on what you think is you, that is your body, that only uses energy. You can only hope and pray and have faith in salvation, while CALMING the heart into controllable balance. Can i do it? i think not. |
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(OP) User ID: 11589748 United States 04/02/2012 07:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: No one is coming to save you. No one can show you the right path. No one will end your suffering. No one will change the world. illusion has no purpose for your benefit. op. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13675219 but the only truth is that one must be SAVED, and the other truth is that it ultimately doesn't depend on what you think is you, that is your body, that only uses energy. You can only hope and pray and have faith in salvation, while CALMING the heart into controllable balance. Can i do it? i think not. That is not my path. I don't feel the need to be "saved" by any higher being. I have no desire to pray for my salvation. I pray to no one or thing. In my view of life, my salvation is not in doubt. I feel very comfortable with my views thank you. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 13675219 Spain 04/02/2012 07:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: No one is coming to save you. No one can show you the right path. No one will end your suffering. No one will change the world. illusion has no purpose for your benefit. op. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13675219 but the only truth is that one must be SAVED, and the other truth is that it ultimately doesn't depend on what you think is you, that is your body, that only uses energy. You can only hope and pray and have faith in salvation, while CALMING the heart into controllable balance. Can i do it? i think not. That is not my path. I don't feel the need to be "saved" by any higher being. I have no desire to pray for my salvation. I pray to no one or thing. In my view of life, my salvation is not in doubt. I feel very comfortable with my views thank you. you did not get it, it is not about any being, but the nature of your being. that is it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 13675219 Spain 04/02/2012 08:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: No one is coming to save you. No one can show you the right path. No one will end your suffering. No one will change the world. illusion has no purpose for your benefit. op. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13675219 but the only truth is that one must be SAVED, and the other truth is that it ultimately doesn't depend on what you think is you, that is your body, that only uses energy. You can only hope and pray and have faith in salvation, while CALMING the heart into controllable balance. Can i do it? i think not. That is not my path. I don't feel the need to be "saved" by any higher being. I have no desire to pray for my salvation. I pray to no one or thing. In my view of life, my salvation is not in doubt. I feel very comfortable with my views thank you. that is nice about you. but you are not any energy. Period. Time to review. Or stay comfortable till the time of the review. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1194370 United States 04/02/2012 08:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: No one is coming to save you. No one can show you the right path. No one will end your suffering. No one will change the world. Cannot anyone see that praying to any higher being is a form of servitude? What supreme being would demand such a thing from others? Madness. Quoting: 1123581321 If one considers service to others a form of madness, then they might see it as madness I suppose. Some spiritual views focus on self. Self-centered. Self serving. Self..... Some spiritual views focus on others. Which one is madness? In this world, it is quite clear (to me). The world clearly favors the one and despises the other. IMHO. God Bless OP. peace, |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 13675219 Spain 04/02/2012 08:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: No one is coming to save you. No one can show you the right path. No one will end your suffering. No one will change the world. There is no law beyond do what thou wilt Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13696609 Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law Don't forget the "And harm none" part. Laws are broken by those they are spoken. He said it with ease and broke it with determination. You do not really understand the full meaning of those attractive wordings. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12772201 United States 04/02/2012 08:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: No one is coming to save you. No one can show you the right path. No one will end your suffering. No one will change the world. God is Light, God is Love, God is Life... If we as humans are made in the Image of God, then we are not to save anyone else or desire that another love us. God is the energy of light, love, and life and we are his instruments (or antennae) to flow these energies to others without the need for intercessors. But that is the secret, you know...the secret that TPTB have always feared we would discover. "The meek shall inherit the earth"...how? By weakness, but not without the courage to be weak. The most wonderful things are waiting for us, because we came to this 3rd dimension with a purpose. The only way to discover our gifts is to let go of our need to control everything. The chrysalis that encases the lowly caterpiller becomes a caldron of soup without a trace of DNA. Only at an appointed time does the new DNA appear and the butterfly is created. But no one is there to save the butterfly by opening the cuccoon to ease the transition. The butterfly must emerge through its own effort in order to live. To save it would mean it will die. Sounds cruel in human terms, doesn't it? |
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