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Directly comparing Fukushima to Chernobyl

07 Sep 2011 | 11:00 BST | Posted by Geoffrey Brumfiel | Category: Fukushima
Zoom out to view Chernobyl’s radiation over Fukushima. Rotate to the Ukraine to see Chernobyl in context. Download File (source: UNSCEAR/MEXT)
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This Sunday (11 September) marks the six-month anniversary of the triple meltdown at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant in Japan. The accident has slipped from the headlines, but new data are coming out all the time. Some of the most recent findings are allowing the best comparison yet of Fukushima with Chernobyl.

A lot of media outlets (ourselves included) first made the Fukushima-Chernobyl comparison back in April, when the Japanese revised their estimate of the Fukushima accident—rating it a seven on the seven-point international INES scale. The conclusion most reached at the time was that, although the rating was the same, Fukushima was a much smaller accident.

A couple of things have changed since those first reports. First, the Japanese doubled their estimate of the radiation released by Fukushima in June to 7.7×1017 Becquerels (Bq). Then, on 30 August, they released the first maps of radioactive caesium-137 (Cs-137) contamination from the plant. Cs-137 has a half-life of 30 years, and it’s considered the major long-term contaminate for both accidents.

With the new Cs-137 data, we can now directly compare the fallout from Chernobyl to Fukushima. Check out the Google Earth mashup above (zoom out to see Chernobyl on top of Fukushima, and rotate over to the Ukraine to see Chernobyl in context).


The first thing that you can see is that Chernobyl is indeed quite a bit bigger. In fact, the permanent exclusion zone (red) encompasses most of the Fukushima fallout map (download the .kmz) to toggle the overlay on and off). If Fukushima had been a Chernobyl-scale crisis, significant amounts of radiation would have spread all the way up to Iwate Prefecture, and depending on the winds, it’s not inconceivable that Tokyo might have been hit with serious levels of fallout.

the total estimate delivered to the International Atomic Energy Agency in June states that Fukushima has released 1.5×1016 becquerels (Bq) of Cs-137—about a fifth of the Cs-137 from Chernobyl. The total radioactive release from Fukushima is currently estimated at about 5.5% of Chernobyl, which spewed an incredible 1.4×1019Bq.

Source with more Source:
[link to blogs.nature.com]

Do you have enough knowledge about this Video?

It is a Satire, a Joke,
painted and made by a Artist,
this is nothing Official!

This is from Youtube, directly under the Fukuboy:
This video was created based on the simple analysis
of the current state of the Fukushima Nuclear power plant by media artist Kazuhiko Hachiya (@hachiya on twitter) or [link to togetter.com]

Neither Mr. Hachiya nor video creator is an expert on the subject, and we advise you to obtain acurate information from the Tokyo Electric Power Company.
[link to www.youtube.com]

ergo: a massive Fail, Ruski!

Oh yeah... I believe you, TEPCO man

Comparison of the Chernobyl and
Fukushima
Nuclear Power Plants
Accidents and their Consequences
It is a Pdf: [link to www.iemss.org]

Massive Fail to anyone who claim that F'Shima is
bigger than the Accident in Chernobyl!

U used the Video, not me!
You should research a bit before you use Material you didn't know!

Putin-Ladyboy

The OP is right! stop to compare them! they are very different:

1)

fukushima = 3 x reactors meltdown

chernobil = 1 x reactor meltdown

2)

fukushima = they don't know where the corio is at moment

chernobil = they know the corio stopped under the facility forming "elephant foot"

3)

fukushima = an entire ocean polluted

chernobil = no pollution to sea waters

OP is right., Fukushima is far more dangours, holds far more of a far more dangerous type of nuclear waste. Fukushima is Chernobyl 10 X.

giant fuel pools full of 40 years worth of nuke fuel. Pits of highly radioactive water, 6 reactors, 3 in meltdown, each one holding more fuel than chernobyl. Mixed plutonium oxide fuel.
Makes Chernobyl look like a fairy tale.

Please read first, than contribute!

^ THIS ^

Also: any idea when it's going to be fixed?

Please stop lying you miserable piece of shit..

Chernobyl had and have one exploded Core which burned for 10 Days under the open Sky,
F'Shima had and have 3 molten Cores inside of their Containment!

Big difference!

You forget the most important:

4)

fukushima = plutonium and MOX fueled melted reactors

Chernobil = uranium fueled melted reactor

yes great difference... to avoid their explosion you smart Japaneses are cooling them with ocean water since 2011 provoking a disaster in whole Pacific!
If you think I'm lying then explain to GLP with proofs why the tunas and other fish species in American west coast are radioactive...

@ Italy,
it was not me who used the Water!

2. What else they could do,
there was no other Way to save the the World!!!

But i am sure that you with your Super-Smart Ass Knowledge
had another Idea?

3. How much Water do they (Tepco) released in Reality?
Many uninformed People think that since 03/11 Cooling Water
is released in to our Ocean but this is wrong, wrong, wrong!

In fact the Water got and get collected and Recycled
which cause a lot of Problems for Tepco.
When you look for actual Photos you would see that the whole
Facility is full of Water Tanks!

4. There is one Reactor with MOX-Fuel, not 6!

Please inform and research before you get angry!

Geomar/ Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute reported that
the Radioactive Levels in the Pacific because of F'Shima
are already lower than in the Baltic Sea
because of Chernobyl,
which was 26 Years ago!

I have the Science of the whole World on my Side,
you just have the Fraggels from Enenews!

[link to iopscience.iop.org]

Complete bullshit! Don't believe a word Atom boy says. He is being paid to spew Tepco's lies. Fukushima is the worst nuclear disaster in history.

@ Fishy,

and i remember you as a fair Member,
so why do you not come forward with other scientific Sources
who claim something opposite and different that i am doing?

Would this be a/ the way?

So, you not come forward with reliable Sources,
in this case you are not that fair any more which is
more than sad!

Hardly it's Chernobyl responsible, more likely it's nuclear waste in Baltic sea.

[link to news.bbc.co.uk]
[link to nonuclear.se]

Atom Boy, I'm sorry if I appeared to be rude. I get frustrated when you continue to deny the severity of the radioactive fallout from Fukushima. This is a global catastrophe. People are sick and dying as a result of the meltdowns. Why do you continue to downplay the severity of this situation? I really am looking for an honest answer from you.

You asked me to give you sources to back up my claims. The best source is the thread that we have both followed for the last two years. Thread: *** Fukushima *** and other nuclear-----updates and links
Many people have taken their time, on a daily basis, to gain knowledge and share it through their posts to Waterbug's thread. Their sole purpose is to seek the truth and share it so others can understand the catastrophic consequences of the radioactive fallout and take precautions where they can. What is the purpose of your posts?

I don't understand why you continue to deny that people, especially children, are being harmed by the radiatioactive fallout from Fukushima. The only thing that I can think of is that you are on Tepco's payroll. Otherwise, why would you mislead people when the consequences are so great?

The people who call out shill usually want doom. They want people to suffer, to die (as long it is not them), usually because they are bored. They won't accept the truth if it doesn't fit their ass-backwards worldview.

Good thread OP.

@ Fishy,
i never ever denied the Severity of this
Accident in F'Shima, how and why
should i do this?

The only thing i want is to be honest
and that we all work to get a better
and higher knowledge.

Chernobyl was a really bad Accident
with a enormous Emission, it was so
bad that even the People in Germany,
Italy, Poland, etc. got the same amount
of Contamination like the People in ca.
100 Km distance of F'Shima-Daiichi!

Even now we have a few Restricted Goods
because of Chernobyl, we should not forget this!

I am saying that F'Shima is not on a Extinction
Level, i said that i/ we expect at least 200.000
cases of Cancer and up to 4.000 Deaths a year
for Decades, i am saying also that until now,
04/27/13 and 1935JST we had a lot of luck
and maybe even Protection by a "Higher Force"
and no one can denial this.

You remember the first Months after 03/11 and
how Black we saw for our Future but nearly
nothing of our "Ideas" happened,
no Pool Fires and no Hydro Cesium Explosions
and we here in Japan are not glowing,
in fact 99% of the People in F'Shima are
far under 300Bq for their whole Body!

citizenperth sheep.

Fukushima and Chernobyl was 2 different type of nuclear disaster:

- Chernobyl was an air disaster as there was a huge explosion

- Fukushima is (not "was" as it is not ended there in my opinion) mostly a water disaster as an entire ocean is being polluted. It was also an air disaster as there was 2 huge explosions but the air impact was lover than in Chernobyl

What is the worse catastrophe? No one can tell at moment... maybe in next 10 years we will know better about it but for now to tell that Fukushima is not an huge disaster comparable with Chernobyl is definitely a bullshit!

And your Sources for your claim are where,
or do you "just think so"?

Be happy that no one ever calculated how much
Radiation left the pile of Dirt in Chernobyl
in the years after 04/26/86 but i am sure
that this numbers are much higher than
in F'Shima!

You wrote "polluted a whole Ocean" but
how right is this claim when we find
1/10 of a Bq in a Cubic Meter of Water,
is this really "a Pollution" or is this "a Trace"?

Why do you think that Chernobyl is over?
There are not even Plans to dismantle that
Reactor Nr. 4, the Ukraine do not even
have enough Money to do the basic Work
and the European Community is tired of
the Corruption in that Place!