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| Joshua Flynn User ID: 12678181  United Kingdom03/17/2012 06:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | PS, good grammar and language skill ~is a sign of Human intelligence. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2636202 Not necessarily. An Intelligence Quotient is an arbitrary amount based on the population's present general test scores divided by 100. The problem, because it's relative, and subjective, means it cannot be measured absolutely, as each test varies and there is no set standard. Even with this point, I.Q. tests consist of one than one area, including Mathematics, and visual-spatial awareness. Good English and Grammar would only accurately reflect on linguistics and, to some extent, analysis. But it is by no means an indicator of intelligence. Proof in-point, I'm particularly good with English, but I only scrap 7 points above average on I.Q. tests (107, which used to be 122 previously). Most people who get to know me claim the test must be defective, but I disagree, it's an accurate representation as my mental performance has greatly decreased (memory fog, slower deductive reasoning, slower response times on mathematics and logical analysis, etc). However, I do seem to be a creative thinker, so despite the usage of logic, I tend to think outside the box better. Argument in short? If English was an accurate measurement, we'd be taking English tests and not I.Q. tests. I don't believe I said anything about IQ ~tests, dear. LMAO Not necessarily, however, you said 'sign of human intelligence', to which a comparison to an I.Q. test - used to measure human intelligence - becomes valid. However, strawman argument, as the I.Q. test is the example by comparison. I'm pointing out English is not a proper gauge of human intelligence. |
| shenandoah User ID: 2636202  United States03/17/2012 06:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also, what about Basques or people of Basque lineage (like myself), who are NOT Rh-? Rh- is in the minority, even among Basques, Cherokee, or Aryan Indo-European types of tribes. It's a huge leap of logic to suggest that those tribes originated the gene, simply because they have inherited so much of it in a random, Mendelian fashion. It could just be that Rh- men are (or were in ancient times) either more attracted to the women of those tribes -- OR -- that they were simply in close proximity to those people in times past. The Rh- gene in the Cherokee (comparatively common among them now in fact) was probably introduced to the tribe during the European invasions following Columbus' discovery of America. That suggests that the same thing may have happened to the Basques in Europe, upon invasion by Indo-Europeans. The Basques, like the Cherokee and some others, reacted to invasion by closing ranks and attempting to isolate themselves, protecting them from further attack. Yet once the rhesus negative DNA was introduced into their closed social systems of marriage, etc., it couldn't be easily eradicated. It seems to have been held in check, however. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2636202 United States03/17/2012 06:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | PS, good grammar and language skill ~is a sign of Human intelligence. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2636202 Not necessarily. An Intelligence Quotient is an arbitrary amount based on the population's present general test scores divided by 100. The problem, because it's relative, and subjective, means it cannot be measured absolutely, as each test varies and there is no set standard. Even with this point, I.Q. tests consist of one than one area, including Mathematics, and visual-spatial awareness. Good English and Grammar would only accurately reflect on linguistics and, to some extent, analysis. But it is by no means an indicator of intelligence. Proof in-point, I'm particularly good with English, but I only scrap 7 points above average on I.Q. tests (107, which used to be 122 previously). Most people who get to know me claim the test must be defective, but I disagree, it's an accurate representation as my mental performance has greatly decreased (memory fog, slower deductive reasoning, slower response times on mathematics and logical analysis, etc). However, I do seem to be a creative thinker, so despite the usage of logic, I tend to think outside the box better. Argument in short? If English was an accurate measurement, we'd be taking English tests and not I.Q. tests. I don't believe I said anything about IQ ~tests, dear. LMAO Not necessarily, however, you said 'sign of human intelligence', to which a comparison to an I.Q. test - used to measure human intelligence - becomes valid. However, strawman argument, as the I.Q. test is the example by comparison. I'm pointing out English is not a proper gauge of human intelligence. I said language, not "English", lol. No need to be defensive, I wasn't talking about your language or logic skills (which seem perfectly adequate to me). I have a daughter who was oxygen-deprived at birth (overdue, 9 1/2 lbs, with the cord wrapped around her neck), who suffers from ADHD, and whose IQ is about where yours is on the scale (a little above "average"). She doesn't read or write very much, but man, she can outspar anybody verbally. And her logic skill is brilliant (thinks outside the box too). Some of the ideas she has come up with have left me absolutely breathless and speechless. She's B+, btw, lol. However, I don't rely on IQ tests (which are artificial constructs, after all) for gauging anyone's mental faculties. I know one 'critter' who brags having an IQ of "188", but I think that must be the IQ of a ~chimpanzee in his case. Certainly not of a human, cause he just isn't as bright as he believes himself to be. So I disagree with you on that point. But I do believe that intelligence goes hand-in-hand with the ability to communicate effectively. And I don't mean the ability to charm or persuade (even Hitler, an Rh-, could do that). I simply mean the ability to express ideas clearly and realistically. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 11690490 United States03/17/2012 07:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So if RH- are "demon seed" or decended from Nephalim, then why are so many Shepardic jewish people RH-? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11690490 Sephardic jewish people are original jewish people of the Bible, unlike Ashkanazis which are essentially Eastern Europeans with some Jewish blood. If you buy into Nephalim and mixing of angelic and human DNA, then Sephardic jewish people would be the last to have it. So no black marks for being RH- if you see things from a Biblical point of view. Please provide referential proof that the jewish people specifically (Sephardic or otherwise) are (or ever were) the 'chosen ones'. I've never seen that in scriptures. You seem to imply here, that they're above reproach for some mysterious reason. You seem to believe that they ~cannot possibly be the "demon seed". Do you also believe that the scriptures were all written by jewish people? (Not transcribed or copied, but actually originally written by ~jewish people). Btw, I've reasons to believe Rh-'s are indeed hybrids (ie, descendants of Neanderthals), but weren't bred with supernatural or mythical beings. That's pure fantasy, wishful thinking (or, figurative / metaphorical language / speech). Instead, they were bred with real mammals (primates), not Human. DNA science has already proven it, but it's being covered up by the Media and others, for obvious reasons. The post was coming from a psuedo-Biblical point of view that at one time fallen angels bred with human women and that DNA is still with us. Again, from that point of view, Sephardic jewish people were God's chosen people and unlikely to have that non-human DNA. That is why the Isrealites were commanded to kill everything in Cannan, children as well, as the Cannanites were not fully human. They failed at that task if you read the Old Testament. My assumption is that most who slander RH- as reptilian or Nephalim leftovers come from this Biblical viewpoint. I'm refuting it from their point of view. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12100946  Canada03/17/2012 08:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Physical: • Excelerated wound healing • Infrequent colds, flu, minor illness • Autoimmune Conditions • HLA-B27 genetic marker • Hair/skin/eye colour • Iron/Copper imbalances • Pregnancy issues and complications with the clashing of blood type within the fetus . Birth control pill issues; ineffective, or causing thrombosis . medications/supplements ineffective . frequent side effects of medications . immediate allergic reactions to preservatives in food . freckles • An extra rib or vertebra. • Lower than average body temperature . athletic stamina . very good eye/hand coordination . B12 deficiencies • Abnormal blood pressure Psychological: . overly emotionally sensitive . prone to mild depression . healthy sex drive under ideal circumstances . hormonal imbalances - needs to be more specific - what hormones? . sharp senses • A feeling of not belonging • Truth seekers • Sense of a "Mission" in life • Empathy & Compassion for Mankind • Higher than average IQ • ESP Ability • Love of Space & Science • More sensitive vision & other senses. • Increased of psychic/intuitive abilities • Increased sensitivity to heat & sunlight • Unexplained Scares • Healing abilities • Empathetic Illnesses • Ability to disrupt electrical devices • Prone to Alien Abductions • Experience unexplained phenomenon • Physic Dreams and/or Ability . crave certain foods, i.e. chocolate . Many Deja vu experiences |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12100946 Canada03/17/2012 08:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was looking for the post to quote saying that Rh- mothers reject the Rh+ fetus as if it was another species. That isn't true. Look at the mule or hiney - it is a distinct species that is born to either a donkey or a horse and it is not rejected by the mother. It just can't reproduce. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12100946 Also, I can't blood from anyone but O types. My body will react to the antigens and reject it and I might well die. I am, for all intents and purposes, allergic to all other blood types because I lack the antibodies against the antigens they carry, much like Rh incompatibility. The only difference is that there's no rejection in pregnancy. The mule and hinny are both ~Hybrid species, and the reason they can't reproduce is (if not totally sterile) they treat their fetuses (which are practically always either donkey or horse, as they can't breed with their own kind -- hybrids) exactly as if they are foreign species (which to them, they ~are). In the last 500 yrs (since Agriculturalists have been keeping official written records), only about ~60 known cases of mules (the products of horse mares and donkey stallions) bred with other mules, have produced live offspring. For Hinnys (the Hybrid product of a donkey mare and a horse stallion) there is only ONE known case of a live offspring within the same time-frame. Actually, there are no recorded cases of fertile male mules. The female mule can only be bred with either a horse or a donkey and this is extremely rare, there are only 60 cases of successful offspring on record, worldwide, period. The reason for this is the fact that horses, mules and donkeys have different numbers of chromosomes, so their offspring typically can't successfully create a successful embryo. This is totally and completely different than Rh incompatibility, where the embryo is successfully created and carried, but there is a reaction to one of several proteins on the baby's red blood cells. Rh incompatibility is not even the leading cause of miscarriage. |
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 User ID: 1443836 United States03/17/2012 08:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So if RH- are "demon seed" or decended from Nephalim, then why are so many Shepardic jewish people RH-? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11690490 Sephardic jewish people are original jewish people of the Bible, unlike Ashkanazis which are essentially Eastern Europeans with some Jewish blood. If you buy into Nephalim and mixing of angelic and human DNA, then Sephardic jewish people would be the last to have it. So no black marks for being RH- if you see things from a Biblical point of view. Please provide referential proof that the jewish people specifically (Sephardic or otherwise) are (or ever were) the 'chosen ones'. I've never seen that in scriptures. You seem to imply here, that they're above reproach for some mysterious reason. You seem to believe that they ~cannot possibly be the "demon seed". Do you also believe that the scriptures were all written by jewish people? (Not transcribed or copied, but actually originally written by ~jewish people). Btw, I've reasons to believe Rh-'s are indeed hybrids (ie, descendants of Neanderthals), but weren't bred with supernatural or mythical beings. That's pure fantasy, wishful thinking (or, figurative / metaphorical language / speech). Instead, they were bred with real mammals (primates), not Human. DNA science has already proven it, but it's being covered up by the Media and others, for obvious reasons. As I am intensely interested in the origins of rh negative blood, I would be so thankful if you would point me to the evidence that science has proven the rh negative bloodline was a result of humans mating with primates. As far as my ancestors go....I wouldn't put anything past them.......... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12100946 Canada03/17/2012 08:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was looking for the post to quote saying that Rh- mothers reject the Rh+ fetus as if it was another species. That isn't true. Look at the mule or hiney - it is a distinct species that is born to either a donkey or a horse and it is not rejected by the mother. It just can't reproduce. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12100946 Also, I can't blood from anyone but O types. My body will react to the antigens and reject it and I might well die. I am, for all intents and purposes, allergic to all other blood types because I lack the antibodies against the antigens they carry, much like Rh incompatibility. The only difference is that there's no rejection in pregnancy. The mule and hinny are both ~Hybrid species, and the reason they can't reproduce is (if not totally sterile) they treat their fetuses (which are practically always either donkey or horse, as they can't breed with their own kind -- hybrids) exactly as if they are foreign species (which to them, they ~are). In the last 500 yrs (since Agriculturalists have been keeping official written records), only about ~60 known cases of mules (the products of horse mares and donkey stallions) bred with other mules, have produced live offspring. For Hinnys (the Hybrid product of a donkey mare and a horse stallion) there is only ONE known case of a live offspring within the same time-frame. Actually, there are no recorded cases of fertile male mules. The female mule can only be bred with either a horse or a donkey and this is extremely rare, there are only 60 cases of successful offspring on record, worldwide, period. The reason for this is the fact that horses, mules and donkeys have different numbers of chromosomes, so their offspring typically can't successfully create a successful embryo. This is totally and completely different than Rh incompatibility, where the embryo is successfully created and carried, but there is a reaction to one of several proteins on the baby's red blood cells. Rh incompatibility is not even the leading cause of miscarriage. Just want to stress that Rh disease is nothing like giving birth to a different species. That would be like creating the mule in the first place. Rh- women and men share the same genome framework as Rh+ women and men and the same number of chromosomes. They are not different species. |
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User ID: 6670983 Canada03/18/2012 07:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Iron poisoning in blood is quite possible: Quoting: Joshua Flynn 12678181 [link to www.healthhype.com] I'm troubled by doctors (or GPs) because I find my own self-diagnosis to be far more accurate. Often, the doctors look stumped when I explain specific symptoms and then reason why it can't be one common illness or another. Either they run tests that confirm exactly what I was saying, or they just go, 'I don't know'. I'm troubled that these are supposed to be the medical experts. That was a very interesting read. So, the possible overload of iron in our blood causes many health problems, but then the body expels the iron, thereby resulting in anemia. I too am worried about medical science. It's almost as if the doctors just follow the manual and don't think for themselves, or theorize, any more. Two years ago I was feeling really fatigued, so I had some blood analyzed. My doctor said I must start taking B12 immediately and take if "FOR LIFE". Well, I took it daily for about four months and felt great. So, against my doctor's orders I stopped taking it. Then another issue came up and she had to analyze my blood again, so I asked her to include another test for the B12 levels. The test results came back showing they were normal and I asked her why she said previously that I had to take it for life? She replied simply that she could not explain why the levels had become normal. Last Edited by RedlicoriceRedux on 03/18/2012 07:49 AM |
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User ID: 6670983 Canada03/18/2012 07:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My Experience of being RH negative Quoting: ATOM 10863890 Male 42yo 5'11" 165lbs Hair: Blk Eyes: Dk. Brn I.Q. 140 Type: A neg I was born with blonde hair which turned red then went brown then went black. Now it's half gray. My eyes have always been dark brown. The whole time I was growing up I felt that I didn't belong anywhere. I would go places and do things and I always felt that I was somehow not a part of what was happening. After a time I realized that I was the only one who was aware of that feeling and that no one else regarded me as being an "outsider" or anything of the kind. To this day, the feeling persists. In my teen years I had a lot of experiences where I thought I was psychic. As the years passed, I realized that I don't think I am actually psychic per se, more like, I notice the tiniest details about things. Facial expressions, sounds etc. I can easily tell when people are covering up their real feelings. I know what their real feelings are and the extent to which they are covering them up and the effort they put into it. When people lie, I know. It's almost comical. However, I don't think it's my being psychic, it's just that I notice every little thing about everything. As an adult, I am not physically that strong. What I mean is, exercise is hard for me, I can't do much when it comes to endurance sports - I'm generally weaker than other people my age unless I am emotionally distraught, then it's a whole different story. When I get upset, angry, frustrated or otherwise feel emotionally "charged", I am strong as all hell. I can pull doors off their hinges, I can push people around twice my size. I know, it sounds like BS. (Go ahead and fly those BS flags) I'm telling you though, it's true. I get so strong when I'm upset, it's like everything weighs 1kg. If someone were to threaten me for example, if I were able to grab them, I could easily break their arms / legs whatever. I'm not saying I WANT to do those things or be that way, I'm saying I AM that way. Some medications work on me some don't. Aspirin works very well, Ibuprofen does not work on me at all. It doesn't matter how much I take, they may as well be Skittles. I am fantastically sensitive to cigarette smoke, pollution, gas smells, car exhaust etc. I smell things no one else seems to be smelling and they can make me feel really horrible sometimes. My heart races, I get dry mouth - I mean, strong reactions to chemicals in the air. The sun burns me right away despite my darker complexion. Foods I react oddly to: You know that fake butter they sell with the microwave popcorn? O M G, that stuff is like crystal meth to me. If I put that "butter" on popcorn I feel like I'm going to crawl right out of my skin. Garlic? No problem. Meat? No problem (though I don't eat much meat). Put the two together? SICK AS HELL. Makes no sense at all. I'm talking, vomiting a whole salad bar. Apples make me hungry, but I think they make everyone hungry because they clean you out, right? Any food with a lot of chemical crap in it makes me feel horrible. I feel dirty inside, like someone just poured dirty rainwater into my veins. Because of this I eat a lot of "raw" foods and feel great. Alcohol is fine in very, very small amounts. I mean, 1 can of beer is fun. 2 cans is pushing it, 3 cans is heart- skipping-beats toxic. I can go from drunk, to hungover to sober and fine again in 4 hours. Sexually I am insatiable. I cannot get enough of my wife, who is sick to death of me by now I'm sure...poor thing. I'm guessing that's normal too, but I can do it 3~5 times a day and I'm 42. Something's either very wrong with me or very right with me. :) I never, never, never, never N E V E R take antibiotics because I don't need any fucking antibiotics because I kick ASS on bad bacteria. I've had full-blown infections just fade away in 3 days. (Here come the BS flags! Count them, 1,2,3.) So I can get infections but once my immunity kicks in, no more infection. There's a lot more. When I was a kid I was visited in my room by some kind of being. (1,2,3 BS flags,) here, let me help you::bsflag:  It scared the holy mother of fuck out of me. It approached me, reached into my chest with its hand, and disappeared. I was pissing myself to sleep at night, afraid that it would come back. Now I know what it was. It was "them". I know where they are. Do you know what I'm talking about? Many of you are convinced I'm nuts now....so much the better, I guess. If these things hadn't happened to me, I suppose I wouldn't believe them either. DUDE!!!!!! no b.s flag here. I highlighted everything that is exactly like me..exactly like me. Are you sure your not me? My being didn't touch my chest..It touched between my eyes. I am not psychic but i have had some 'psychic' episodes in dreams and random visions that hit me at weird random times. Im also very intuitive and can feel people and their intentions and emotions. I see a cut, I feel the cut to. Some people have said i made it feel better while sitting close to the wound. I also am VERY strong for a tiny female. In a relaxed state -mentality- I am normal for my physical existance. But upon anger or high stress i have plowed through a door and took the door as well. I also beat up a man trying to place harm on me one evening. Although he tried to restain me, and physically hurt me..I knew by contact what he was going to do to me, unless I did something to get away. I also have a very high sex drive..only for certain people or certain connections with someone. -these are very specific- Also, My hearing is super super great. And the smell thing..I get sick as well to things that will be outside around my house. No one smells what i do. Im so sensitive that it will make me physically ill. Me too for almost all above...esp. the smelling thing. I was the first one to smell burning plastic at work when nobody else could. Then the fire alarm went off. What makes me physically ill are the chemicals they put in food, esp. those little creamers in restaurants. My sex drive is very high too, but you are right, only for the right person. Otherwise, I feel nothing. Wow! The sex drive thing caught me eye. Before I got married, I wondered if I was actually a lesbian because I couldn't get turned on by many men (I wasn't attracted to other women though). Even if they were handsome and smart, I felt nothing. Then I met my husband and we went at it like a couple of rabbits. He was the same way. We've been married for 33 years (today :), and I'm still turned on by him. Same here and I dated some of the best looking guys you'll ever want to see; felt nothing. We've been together almost 33 years and it just keeps getting better. |
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User ID: 6670983 Canada03/18/2012 07:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm in shock!!! I know we negatives share similarities..but damn, we really are alike ! And good theory on the adrenalin thing! I have nick named that 'hulk syndrome' bc being angered makes me (tiny 5'1 and a half, 105lbs) female, a force not to be messed with. Also do you control you're emotion's well? I seem to be very tough as nails at getting past the barriers..what usually does it to me is endangering my life or someone around me ..or a loved one. etc.. I basically have to backed into a corner..but once i do.......  Sure enough - it's the truth. It HAS to be. Yes, and the thing is, being tiny as you are, everyone would assume you to be weak, which technically you are "weak" as long as you are not emotionally charged up. I mean, for everyday kinds of things - but once your button has been pushed...oohh...ohh noooo  It's like you become this other person.You know what it's really like, is for a short time, being able to do anything you want until the effect wears off lol. It's just that the things that trigger it tend to be threatening kinds of things and so you tend to break something or lift something or otherwise dump a 100 gallon drum of whoop-ass on someone...and the scariest part...is how easy it is. Looking at your picture, I can totally see you as Rh neg lol We are faaaaar away from each other seriously, I could not ride a camel to your house  I'm in Hawaii. I'm looking for a way to PM you on here, but it looks like I cannot. Oh well, I guess the whole world will have to read these lol~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Well it's strange thats for sure. I have yet to find very many negatives, let alone anyone who also suffer's from 'hulk syndrome' very neat indeed! It is really easy to find myself with massive strength with rage. what are the odd's another neg has that..im still in shock. LOL you do live far from me, a whole world away. If you have other things about this that you do not want others to see I'm in voice chat usually in the evenings and in the mornings for a few hour's. Not sure how the time difference goes between us though. Re "Hulk syndrome" ... A typical mature male rhesus monkey can easily take down any adult (Hu)man (Hybrid or not) in hand-to-hand combat. Of course, physical prowess or instinctive stealth (ie like the way mountain lions or bears might stalk a Human in the woods) doesn't equal ~intelligence. PS, good grammar and language skill ~is a sign of Human intelligence. Yes, I have always seemed to be very strong and I use to say to people (when they would comment on my strength), that "I am strong like onion". |
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User ID: 6670983 Canada03/18/2012 07:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My Experience of being RH negative Quoting: ATOM 10863890 Male 42yo 5'11" 165lbs Hair: Blk Eyes: Dk. Brn I.Q. 140 Type: A neg I was born with blonde hair which turned red then went brown then went black. Now it's half gray. My eyes have always been dark brown. The whole time I was growing up I felt that I didn't belong anywhere. I would go places and do things and I always felt that I was somehow not a part of what was happening. After a time I realized that I was the only one who was aware of that feeling and that no one else regarded me as being an "outsider" or anything of the kind. To this day, the feeling persists. In my teen years I had a lot of experiences where I thought I was psychic. As the years passed, I realized that I don't think I am actually psychic per se, more like, I notice the tiniest details about things. Facial expressions, sounds etc. I can easily tell when people are covering up their real feelings. I know what their real feelings are and the extent to which they are covering them up and the effort they put into it. When people lie, I know. It's almost comical. However, I don't think it's my being psychic, it's just that I notice every little thing about everything. As an adult, I am not physically that strong. What I mean is, exercise is hard for me, I can't do much when it comes to endurance sports - I'm generally weaker than other people my age unless I am emotionally distraught, then it's a whole different story. When I get upset, angry, frustrated or otherwise feel emotionally "charged", I am strong as all hell. I can pull doors off their hinges, I can push people around twice my size. I know, it sounds like BS. (Go ahead and fly those BS flags) I'm telling you though, it's true. I get so strong when I'm upset, it's like everything weighs 1kg. If someone were to threaten me for example, if I were able to grab them, I could easily break their arms / legs whatever. I'm not saying I WANT to do those things or be that way, I'm saying I AM that way. Some medications work on me some don't. Aspirin works very well, Ibuprofen does not work on me at all. It doesn't matter how much I take, they may as well be Skittles. I am fantastically sensitive to cigarette smoke, pollution, gas smells, car exhaust etc. I smell things no one else seems to be smelling and they can make me feel really horrible sometimes. My heart races, I get dry mouth - I mean, strong reactions to chemicals in the air. The sun burns me right away despite my darker complexion. Foods I react oddly to: You know that fake butter they sell with the microwave popcorn? O M G, that stuff is like crystal meth to me. If I put that "butter" on popcorn I feel like I'm going to crawl right out of my skin. Garlic? No problem. Meat? No problem (though I don't eat much meat). Put the two together? SICK AS HELL. Makes no sense at all. I'm talking, vomiting a whole salad bar. Apples make me hungry, but I think they make everyone hungry because they clean you out, right? Any food with a lot of chemical crap in it makes me feel horrible. I feel dirty inside, like someone just poured dirty rainwater into my veins. Because of this I eat a lot of "raw" foods and feel great. Alcohol is fine in very, very small amounts. I mean, 1 can of beer is fun. 2 cans is pushing it, 3 cans is heart- skipping-beats toxic. I can go from drunk, to hungover to sober and fine again in 4 hours. Sexually I am insatiable. I cannot get enough of my wife, who is sick to death of me by now I'm sure...poor thing. I'm guessing that's normal too, but I can do it 3~5 times a day and I'm 42. Something's either very wrong with me or very right with me. :) I never, never, never, never N E V E R take antibiotics because I don't need any fucking antibiotics because I kick ASS on bad bacteria. I've had full-blown infections just fade away in 3 days. (Here come the BS flags! Count them, 1,2,3.) So I can get infections but once my immunity kicks in, no more infection. There's a lot more. When I was a kid I was visited in my room by some kind of being. (1,2,3 BS flags,) here, let me help you::bsflag: It scared the holy mother of fuck out of me. It approached me, reached into my chest with its hand, and disappeared. I was pissing myself to sleep at night, afraid that it would come back. Now I know what it was. It was "them". I know where they are. Do you know what I'm talking about? Many of you are convinced I'm nuts now....so much the better, I guess. If these things hadn't happened to me, I suppose I wouldn't believe them either. DUDE!!!!!! no b.s flag here. I highlighted everything that is exactly like me..exactly like me. Are you sure your not me? My being didn't touch my chest..It touched between my eyes. I am not psychic but i have had some 'psychic' episodes in dreams and random visions that hit me at weird random times. Im also very intuitive and can feel people and their intentions and emotions. I see a cut, I feel the cut to. Some people have said i made it feel better while sitting close to the wound. I also am VERY strong for a tiny female. In a relaxed state -mentality- I am normal for my physical existance. But upon anger or high stress i have plowed through a door and took the door as well. I also beat up a man trying to place harm on me one evening. Although he tried to restain me, and physically hurt me..I knew by contact what he was going to do to me, unless I did something to get away. I also have a very high sex drive..only for certain people or certain connections with someone. -these are very specific- Also, My hearing is super super great. And the smell thing..I get sick as well to things that will be outside around my house. No one smells what i do. Im so sensitive that it will make me physically ill. Me too for almost all above...esp. the smelling thing. I was the first one to smell burning plastic at work when nobody else could. Then the fire alarm went off. What makes me physically ill are the chemicals they put in food, esp. those little creamers in restaurants. My sex drive is very high too, but you are right, only for the right person. Otherwise, I feel nothing. Sorry, but none of those things are exclusive to Rh-'s. Some are found in schizophrenics (many of whom are Rh-, btw), but many are also found in regular, healthy Rh+'s. Example, I am ALWAYS the first one to notice whenever an oven is leaking gas (the owners are typically very surprised when they learn that I'm correct about it). It's terribly narcissistic for you guys to actually believe and brag about your 'awesome' sex drives, etc. Can you spell, "nymphomania"? Do you realize nymphomania is a mental ~illness (like sex-addiction)? I've had many, many very spiritual types of experiences, too. Dreams, visions, precognition, clairvoyance, ESP... But Rh-'s always simply write MY experiences off as "halucinations", lol. How hypocritical. It's not hyocritical, we are simply comparing traits and medical issues. Please do us a favor and copy/paste the listings and highlight which traits are strong for you, being an RH+. That's what this is all about, comparison and study. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12100946 Canada03/18/2012 11:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For the record, I'm fairly certain that the whole being in love increasing your sex drive is pretty common across the board of blood types. Hey, guess what! If I'm not attracted to someone, I don't want to have sex with them either. If I am attracted to them, I am a shameless horndog. There are whole industries built around the sex-love connection. There are a million songs written about it. I'm pretty sure it's not about the missing antigen in your blood... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12100946 Canada03/18/2012 11:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was born with blonde hair which turned red then went brown then went black. Now it's half gray. My eyes have always been dark brown. The whole time I was growing up I felt that I didn't belong anywhere. I would go places and do things and I always felt that I was somehow not a part of what was happening. After a time I realized that I was the only one who was aware of that feeling and that no one else regarded me as being an "outsider" or anything of the kind. To this day, the feeling persists. In my teen years I had a lot of experiences where I thought I was psychic. As the years passed, I realized that I don't think I am actually psychic per se, more like, I notice the tiniest details about things. Facial expressions, sounds etc. I can easily tell when people are covering up their real feelings. I know what their real feelings are and the extent to which they are covering them up and the effort they put into it. When people lie, I know. It's almost comical. However, I don't think it's my being psychic, it's just that I notice every little thing about everything. As an adult, I am not physically that strong. What I mean is, exercise is hard for me, I can't do much when it comes to endurance sports - I'm generally weaker than other people my age unless I am emotionally distraught, then it's a whole different story. When I get upset, angry, frustrated or otherwise feel emotionally "charged", I am strong as all hell. I can pull doors off their hinges, I can push people around twice my size. I know, it sounds like BS. (Go ahead and fly those BS flags) I'm telling you though, it's true. I get so strong when I'm upset, it's like everything weighs 1kg. If someone were to threaten me for example, if I were able to grab them, I could easily break their arms / legs whatever. I'm not saying I WANT to do those things or be that way, I'm saying I AM that way. Some medications work on me some don't. Aspirin works very well, Ibuprofen does not work on me at all. It doesn't matter how much I take, they may as well be Skittles. I am fantastically sensitive to cigarette smoke, pollution, gas smells, car exhaust etc. I smell things no one else seems to be smelling and they can make me feel really horrible sometimes. My heart races, I get dry mouth - I mean, strong reactions to chemicals in the air. The sun burns me right away despite my darker complexion. Foods I react oddly to: You know that fake butter they sell with the microwave popcorn? O M G, that stuff is like crystal meth to me. If I put that "butter" on popcorn I feel like I'm going to crawl right out of my skin. Garlic? No problem. Meat? No problem (though I don't eat much meat). Put the two together? SICK AS HELL. Makes no sense at all. I'm talking, vomiting a whole salad bar. Apples make me hungry, but I think they make everyone hungry because they clean you out, right? Any food with a lot of chemical crap in it makes me feel horrible. I feel dirty inside, like someone just poured dirty rainwater into my veins. Because of this I eat a lot of "raw" foods and feel great. Alcohol is fine in very, very small amounts. I mean, 1 can of beer is fun. 2 cans is pushing it, 3 cans is heart- skipping-beats toxic. I can go from drunk, to hungover to sober and fine again in 4 hours. Sexually I am insatiable. I cannot get enough of my wife, who is sick to death of me by now I'm sure...poor thing. I'm guessing that's normal too, but I can do it 3~5 times a day and I'm 42. Something's either very wrong with me or very right with me. :) I never, never, never, never N E V E R take antibiotics because I don't need any fucking antibiotics because I kick ASS on bad bacteria. I've had full-blown infections just fade away in 3 days. (Here come the BS flags! Count them, 1,2,3.) So I can get infections but once my immunity kicks in, no more infection. There's a lot more. When I was a kid I was visited in my room by some kind of being. (1,2,3 BS flags,) here, let me help you::bsflag:bsflagbsflag |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1351486 United States03/18/2012 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My Experience of being RH negative Quoting: ATOM 10863890 Male 42yo 5'11" 165lbs Hair: Blk Eyes: Dk. Brn I.Q. 140 Type: A neg I was born with blonde hair which turned red then went brown then went black. Now it's half gray. My eyes have always been dark brown. The whole time I was growing up I felt that I didn't belong anywhere. I would go places and do things and I always felt that I was somehow not a part of what was happening. After a time I realized that I was the only one who was aware of that feeling and that no one else regarded me as being an "outsider" or anything of the kind. To this day, the feeling persists. In my teen years I had a lot of experiences where I thought I was psychic. As the years passed, I realized that I don't think I am actually psychic per se, more like, I notice the tiniest details about things. Facial expressions, sounds etc. I can easily tell when people are covering up their real feelings. I know what their real feelings are and the extent to which they are covering them up and the effort they put into it. When people lie, I know. It's almost comical. However, I don't think it's my being psychic, it's just that I notice every little thing about everything. As an adult, I am not physically that strong. What I mean is, exercise is hard for me, I can't do much when it comes to endurance sports - I'm generally weaker than other people my age unless I am emotionally distraught, then it's a whole different story. When I get upset, angry, frustrated or otherwise feel emotionally "charged", I am strong as all hell. I can pull doors off their hinges, I can push people around twice my size. I know, it sounds like BS. (Go ahead and fly those BS flags) I'm telling you though, it's true. I get so strong when I'm upset, it's like everything weighs 1kg. If someone were to threaten me for example, if I were able to grab them, I could easily break their arms / legs whatever. I'm not saying I WANT to do those things or be that way, I'm saying I AM that way. Some medications work on me some don't. Aspirin works very well, Ibuprofen does not work on me at all. It doesn't matter how much I take, they may as well be Skittles. I am fantastically sensitive to cigarette smoke, pollution, gas smells, car exhaust etc. I smell things no one else seems to be smelling and they can make me feel really horrible sometimes. My heart races, I get dry mouth - I mean, strong reactions to chemicals in the air. The sun burns me right away despite my darker complexion. Foods I react oddly to: You know that fake butter they sell with the microwave popcorn? O M G, that stuff is like crystal meth to me. If I put that "butter" on popcorn I feel like I'm going to crawl right out of my skin. Garlic? No problem. Meat? No problem (though I don't eat much meat). Put the two together? SICK AS HELL. Makes no sense at all. I'm talking, vomiting a whole salad bar. Apples make me hungry, but I think they make everyone hungry because they clean you out, right? Any food with a lot of chemical crap in it makes me feel horrible. I feel dirty inside, like someone just poured dirty rainwater into my veins. Because of this I eat a lot of "raw" foods and feel great. Alcohol is fine in very, very small amounts. I mean, 1 can of beer is fun. 2 cans is pushing it, 3 cans is heart- skipping-beats toxic. I can go from drunk, to hungover to sober and fine again in 4 hours. Sexually I am insatiable. I cannot get enough of my wife, who is sick to death of me by now I'm sure...poor thing. I'm guessing that's normal too, but I can do it 3~5 times a day and I'm 42. Something's either very wrong with me or very right with me. :) I never, never, never, never N E V E R take antibiotics because I don't need any fucking antibiotics because I kick ASS on bad bacteria. I've had full-blown infections just fade away in 3 days. (Here come the BS flags! Count them, 1,2,3.) So I can get infections but once my immunity kicks in, no more infection. There's a lot more. When I was a kid I was visited in my room by some kind of being. (1,2,3 BS flags,) here, let me help you::bsflag: It scared the holy mother of fuck out of me. It approached me, reached into my chest with its hand, and disappeared. I was pissing myself to sleep at night, afraid that it would come back. Now I know what it was. It was "them". I know where they are. Do you know what I'm talking about? Many of you are convinced I'm nuts now....so much the better, I guess. If these things hadn't happened to me, I suppose I wouldn't believe them either.  I am O- here  While we are physically(height, weight) close to same size, I doubt that to be an rh- trait..lol Although a little older than you, I am pretty physically fit still..very strong willed as well..I have had very physically demanding, stress filled occupations my entire life, up until a couple weeks ago, so maybe that'll end, idk...lol what caught my eye was that blurb about being visited in your room, I posted on this site about that myself..Here is an excerpt from the discussion: This site is for people who are not afraid to entertain ideas that the western paradigm (which is complete bullsh*t) does not accept. We explore the dark forest while the rest eat marshmallows by the campfire. If you don't fit the above criteria then perhaps you don't belong here, but then again - you are here. Stop for a moment and answer this question for yourself: why do the reptilian ET beliefs of some totally random person online whom you've NEVER met bother you enough to cause you to engage in a ridiculous argument? If I found a random person online whom I genuinely considered as a fool spouting nonsense, then I'd certainly not bother to engage in an argument with them. It wouldn't be worth my time. Think about it, maybe you are already aware of something strange that you're not allowing yourself to acknowledge. "The universe is not only stranger than we imagine, it is stranger than we CAN imagine." - Sir Arthur Eddington I realize much is not what it seems in this universe and I do seek out the truth, but those pictures are nonsense(imo). I found myself arguing this fact too much I suppose...yes I probably should have let it be but felt the need to find out why some really thought this meant something, next thing I know we are here... OK, I will tell you something, something i dont let out too often... As a child I used to have dreams of a large reptilian creature looking over me at night. I mean standing directly over me while sleeping. Once I awoke to find it grabbing me and pulling me off bed. I shared a room with my brother and loudly yelled to him to turn lights on. i suppose I sounded so scared he actually ran and did just that. When the lights went on nothing was there. My brother thought I was crazy. I could feel the spot where creature grabbed me so i went in bathroom to check it out(wore footie pj's lol). Sure enough there was a large reddish imprint on my leg in that very spot...still dont know if I did it to myself while sleeping, but it freaked me out and might be partial reason why i do not sleep well to this day...idk Still dont believe this snow image is real though... Thread: Ok. So you want to see a real one? (Page 4) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12100946 Canada03/18/2012 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I cracked my head open on concrete when I was about 7. I had been bleeding profusely (it stained the settee). I waited 6 hours in A&E. It had pretty much sealed/healed up (it was practically dry) by the time I got seen too. I apparently would have needed stitches (but they took too long to see me). All I got was some glue in my hair (supposedly to help?), it stuck all my hair together, and was a nightmare to wash out. Quoting: Joshua Flynn 12678181 Are you sure you're not Rh-? Isn't that a "trait" that Rh- share, wounds that heal "quickly"? The only exception, was getting my bloodtype. But for all I know, that could be wrong too (especially given the Rh factor is based on a percentage and people who walk the line can either be Rh positive or Rh negative depending on the sensitivity of the test). Quoting: Joshua Flynn 12678181 Huh? It tests for a protein. It is either there or not. You can do the test yourself at home, in fact! Mix your blood with known Rh+ blood. Does it clump? Wow! The sex drive thing caught me eye. Before I got married, I wondered if I was actually a lesbian because I couldn't get turned on by many men (I wasn't attracted to other women though). Even if they were handsome and smart, I felt nothing. Then I met my husband and we went at it like a couple of rabbits. He was the same way. We've been married for 33 years (today :), and I'm still turned on by him. Quoting: INK1 Ditto. Of course, that goes for just about every other person I know except my best friend who is a total player. Also, hehe, "like a couple of rabbits". Hopefully someone who knows the history of the discovery of the rhesus factor will find that as funny as I do. I'm troubled by doctors (or GPs) because I find my own self-diagnosis to be far more accurate. Often, the doctors look stumped when I explain specific symptoms and then reason why it can't be one common illness or another. Either they run tests that confirm exactly what I was saying, or they just go, 'I don't know'. I'm troubled that these are supposed to be the medical experts. Quoting: Joshua Flynn 12678181 This goes for every single person out there, regardless of blood type: You are your own best physician. You know your body best. They are there to help you in times of illness and for preventative care, not to tell you why you are the way you are. They are also only human. Also, I don't live in the States, so my health care is different. Maybe the doctors there really don't care, I suppose that's what happens when health care is a for-profit business. Hrm, actually I think Joshua may have been from the UK. I'm not sure what the system is like there. Anywho, long story short(er) - I suspect most doctors truly do want to help you, but they can only do so much. They're not like House, where he can just sit around all day and deduce what could possibly be wrong with this one patient. They can't help when your symptoms aren't physical. They can't help when not in their field of expertise. very good point, and i've experienced the same..I work in the medical field (hemodialysis). But it seems that my experiences with the doctor's diagnosis or advice seems to hurt me further or not help at all. I'm trying currently to abtain a test to see if i have the HLA-B27 genetic marker. I have reasons to believe my grandmother was suffering from A.S. (she isn't around anymore and i was young) Not only is the doctor throwing rock's, but he keeps blaming to insurance policy. *sigh* Quoting: Aiyannanaki I suspect that my grandmother had scleroderma. I suspect it would have killed her if she hadn't killed herself first to escape the pain. But I'll never know. Do you have symptoms of AS? If it's suspected, then I don't understand why they wouldn't do blood tests for it. But, again, HLA-B27 is not specific to AS or indicative of it. It just means you have a gene that is thought to be associated with the development of it. So, what do you hope to gain from getting the costly test? Is it medically indicated? Is it just for your peace of mind? If so, then don't go through insurance. If you need to know if you have this gene (which, by the way is on chromosome 6, while the Rhesus genes are located on chromosome 1) for your own peace of mind, then I'm sure someone will do the test if you wave cash at them. Ok, great start. Perhaps we should separate them into verifiable, measurable traits and subjective traits next. Like, physical characteristics (ie hair colour) and psychological characteristics (ie higher IQ) and subjective experiences (ie psychic experiences). I would do it right now, but I have to get out for my walk. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12100946 I believe this is the best idea! and along the way we should try to find the best reliable source or link to back it up, or attempt to give a good standing on why this is possible. Off to a great start! Quoting: Aiyannanaki I don't think that the questionnaire is going to be very useful if you use it for the sole purpose of gathering evidence to fit your the-o-ry. See definition of pseudoscience. This goes for A LOT we have been taught, not just everything about anything except blood type.. Quoting: Aiyannanaki I apply to even what I've been taught. No theory too absurd so long as it fits the facts. I believe Joshua covered the whole "fact" vs "not fact" very nicely. Are they really FACTS? Have there been actual studies that are publicly available? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12100946 Keep calm dude. You're going at this with aggression (even if you don't think it is, it's giving that impression), you only need to reason, and Aiyanna understands the point. There's already been some effort on constructing a better supported list (although I seem to have been left holding it so to speak). I've addressed the other points you've brought up. Calm; the correct response to any division is not beratement or aggression, but reconciliation. Demonstrate, don't lecture. Here's an Rh positive, they are like you, we're not so different. I fail to see the difference between Rh- Power and White Power. They are both meant to separate one group from the "inferior" group by "keeping the blood pure". It riles me up. I don't get it. I do get trying to understand yourself and why you are the way you are, and I get feeling oppressed and wanting to identify with a group. Strength in numbers and all that. So, I guess I do get where it comes from and why these beliefs are so strong that they form their own logic. I've seen it with every single group of humans that I've come across, from book clubs to street gangs. I'm the one who suggested a better list and has been working with you to compile it, so how have "you been left holding it so to speak"? However, I'm starting to think that passing around such a list will do more harm than good, for the simple reason that it is not designed for inquiry, but for reinforcing these beliefs. My entire point was that they are like me, that one missing protein doesn't make us entirely different beings and doesn't correlate with all the "traits" presented in the OP. Sigh, I have a feeling I'm going back to being hated in this thread... |
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User ID: 1443836 United States03/18/2012 03:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If I had billions of dollars, the only luxury I would afford myself would be to hire a live-in sushi chef to prepare fresh sushi for breakfast, lunch and dinner......seven days a week. That makes me an annunaki? So be it!  |
| shenandoah User ID: 2636202 United States03/18/2012 05:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So if RH- are "demon seed" or decended from Nephalim, then why are so many Shepardic jewish people RH-? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11690490 Sephardic jewish people are original jewish people of the Bible, unlike Ashkanazis which are essentially Eastern Europeans with some Jewish blood. If you buy into Nephalim and mixing of angelic and human DNA, then Sephardic jewish people would be the last to have it. So no black marks for being RH- if you see things from a Biblical point of view. Please provide referential proof that the jewish people specifically (Sephardic or otherwise) are (or ever were) the 'chosen ones'. I've never seen that in scriptures. You seem to imply here, that they're above reproach for some mysterious reason. You seem to believe that they ~cannot possibly be the "demon seed". Do you also believe that the scriptures were all written by jewish people? (Not transcribed or copied, but actually originally written by ~jewish people). Btw, I've reasons to believe Rh-'s are indeed hybrids (ie, descendants of Neanderthals), but weren't bred with supernatural or mythical beings. That's pure fantasy, wishful thinking (or, figurative / metaphorical language / speech). Instead, they were bred with real mammals (primates), not Human. DNA science has already proven it, but it's being covered up by the Media and others, for obvious reasons. As I am intensely interested in the origins of rh negative blood, I would be so thankful if you would point me to the evidence that science has proven the rh negative bloodline was a result of humans mating with primates. As far as my ancestors go....I wouldn't put anything past them.......... THE PRODUCTION OF ANTI-HUMAN GLOBULIN SERUM (COOMBS REAGENT) IN GOATS BY I. DUNSFORD AND C. C. BOWLEY From the National Blood Transfusion Service, Northfield Road, Crookes, Sheffield (RECEIVED FOR PUBLICATION MARCH 8, 1956) The rabbit is customarily used for the preparation of anti-human globulin serum, but there are several objections to the choice of this animal. These are: (1) The volume of serum obtained is small. To maintain supplies it is necessary either to have several animals producing the reagent, or to hyperimmunize and bleed the rabbits used too frequently, which in turn results in a less specific reagent. (2) The rabbit is prone to myxomatosis. This note reports the preparation of the reagent in the goat. The procedure has the following advantages over preparation in rabbits: (1) It yields larger volumes of serum. (2) The goat is not prone to infection with myxomatosis. (3) The immunizing and bleeding operations are simpler and quicker. (4) For the laboratory using or distributing large quantities of the reagent feeding and housing a goat is less costly than keeping 20 or 30 rabbits. Method Sterile group 0 serum, 5 ml., was injected intramuscularly (gluteal muscles) every three to four days to a total of 10 injections. Ten days after the last injection 10-20 ml. blood was withdrawn from the leg vein. After heating the serum at 56° C. for 30 minutes (to inactivate complement) the serum was titrated in parallel against red cells sensitized with an incomplete anti-D and against unsensitized cells. Provided that the titre against the sensitized cells was at least 20 times as great as that against the non-sensitized cells, the goat was bled from the external jugular vein for 400 to 500 ml. The hair of the neck was closely clipped and a long (20 cm.) largebore needle (3 mm. external diameter) used. The blood was allowed to run straight from the needle into a sterile bottle. After clotting the serum was separated with aseptic precautions. Following inactivation of the complement as before, the anti-human agglutinins were removed by absorption with well-washed A, B, and 0 cells as for rabbit anti-human globulin serum. The goat anti-human globulin serum was standardized in the... I couldn't copy the link, so posted part of the paper here. Also, [link to en.wikipedia.org] A Coombs reagent (aka "anti-Human serum") was manufactured from the blood of Rhesus monkeys, back in the 1940's, when scientists were trying to understand why a particular anonymous couple kept giving birth to stillborns. The mother's blood (like all Rhesus negatives) did NOT "agglutinate" (or, clump; coagulate, curdle, etc.) when introduced to the serum made from the monkey blood. However, her husband's blood DID agglutinate when in contact w/ the Coomb's reagent (which is still used for testing blood samples for the 'Rhesus factor'). Therefore, Rhesus negatives' blood is compatible w/ monkey blood, while Rhesus positives are not. It is not the fault of Rhesus positive people, that the scientists at first erroneously reported the woman's husband, instead of the Rh- woman herself, as the one whose blood was compatible with the "Anti-Human" serum. In fact, it seems to have been some sort of mis-communication. Because the fact is that it is Rh negative blood, which is compatible (doesn't agglutinate) in the testing serum (made from Rhesus monkey blood). Blood products from Rhesus monkeys are (or were) incubated in rabbits, goats, or other lab animals, in order to produce the Anti-D (aka "Anti-Human" serum). "D" is the factor found in Rhesus positive people. There are many websites which point out that fact. Here's one, but I've also seen it stated on the AMA / Red Cross sites. [link to www.ginkgo-web.de] As for not putting your ancestors past it, remember: Humanity has been forced to survive climatic cataclysms which have cause severe bottlenecking of our species. Human beings are intelligent enough to survive such things, but also enough to get ourselves into lots of trouble. Also, take a good look at the temple frescoes in Northern India: the "Monkey Armies". Those aren't totally mythic, there's a lot of truth behind it. They were agriculturalists, who prided themselves on their ability to create hybrid crops and animals too (cattle, etc.). Around the same time that the Vedic agriculturalists were experimenting with breeding, they also introduced the caste systems, monarchies, and slavery to their societies. Even today, certain people are talking about creating a slave race of hybrids (Human x Chimpanzee). However, whether they realize it or not -- it's already been done. And the only way to do it, is to breed a female Human with a male lower primate (certain monkeys or apes). |
| shenandoah User ID: 2636202 United States03/18/2012 05:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So if RH- are "demon seed" or decended from Nephalim, then why are so many Shepardic jewish people RH-? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11690490 Sephardic jewish people are original jewish people of the Bible, unlike Ashkanazis which are essentially Eastern Europeans with some Jewish blood. If you buy into Nephalim and mixing of angelic and human DNA, then Sephardic jewish people would be the last to have it. So no black marks for being RH- if you see things from a Biblical point of view. Please provide referential proof that the jewish people specifically (Sephardic or otherwise) are (or ever were) the 'chosen ones'. I've never seen that in scriptures. You seem to imply here, that they're above reproach for some mysterious reason. You seem to believe that they ~cannot possibly be the "demon seed". Do you also believe that the scriptures were all written by jewish people? (Not transcribed or copied, but actually originally written by ~jewish people). Btw, I've reasons to believe Rh-'s are indeed hybrids (ie, descendants of Neanderthals), but weren't bred with supernatural or mythical beings. That's pure fantasy, wishful thinking (or, figurative / metaphorical language / speech). Instead, they were bred with real mammals (primates), not Human. DNA science has already proven it, but it's being covered up by the Media and others, for obvious reasons. The post was coming from a psuedo-Biblical point of view that at one time fallen angels bred with human women and that DNA is still with us. Again, from that point of view, Sephardic jewish people were God's chosen people and unlikely to have that non-human DNA. That is why the Isrealites were commanded to kill everything in Cannan, children as well, as the Cannanites were not fully human. They failed at that task if you read the Old Testament. My assumption is that most who slander RH- as reptilian or Nephalim leftovers come from this Biblical viewpoint. I'm refuting it from their point of view. "psuedo-Biblical" you got that right. "who slander RH- as reptilian or Nephalim leftovers come from this Biblical viewpoint." Strange, I learned about that weird stuff from the Rhesus negatives themselves, from their own websites. I'd never even heard of such things (even though I've read the ancient scriptures many times), nor have I ever heard anything like that preached in any church service that I've ever attended (and I used to sample many different kinds, finding that they all mostly talk politics or promote nutty interpretations which serve their own purposes of social control and material gain). The only reason why I know about such things now, is because I began researching my own mtDNA about 2-3 yrs ago (which is so rare, that it may or may not be a clade of "X1", "W1e" or "H1" -- I'll need further expensive testing if I want to be more specific -- and was reported to me by ftDNA as being "X" at first, before they changed it 2 1/2 yrs later, to "W"). While researching "X" (before ftDNA got around to changing my classification), I chanced onto so much incredible information about that 'tribe' that it gave me terrible headaches trying to understand it all. And all of it came from the "X"s and Rhesus negatives themselves. Also, I'd never realized until after doing all that research, how ingrained into the 'mainstream' is their culture. It's as if a minority of the population dominates the entire culture. So, you believe that they slander themselves? Because, how can they cry "slander", when they're responsible for introducing society and the public to their own beliefs and myths about themselves? In fact, they seem to brag about it as proud of it. I don't believe it's "slander" simply to disagree with them about themselves, when so much of what they claim is absolutely false and / or exagerated. |
| shenandoah User ID: 2636202 United States03/18/2012 06:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | (Quoting myself)"And the only way to do it, is to breed a female Human with a male lower primate (certain monkeys or apes)." That's why Human mtDNA doesn't differ greatly from the mtDNA found in Neanderthal remains. Neanderthal DNA is mostly found in the X or Y chromosomes (especially yDNA). The differences between Human and Neanderthal mtDNA are only about 25 mutations on average; so in order to compare modern Humans with Neanderthals, the Full Genome Sequence must be implemented (mtDNA alone won't produce any usable results for that purpose). The Neanderthal was a Human x Rhesus monkey hybrid, and other Human x Ape hybrids were also produced in ancient times and in different regions of the world. That's why we have so much blood, dna, and physical diversity among the "modern" Human population. [link to 0801.nccdn.net] The above link shows how the different blood types agglutinate in the anti-D serum. |
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User ID: 1443836 United States03/18/2012 07:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So if RH- are "demon seed" or decended from Nephalim, then why are so many Shepardic jewish people RH-? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11690490 Sephardic jewish people are original jewish people of the Bible, unlike Ashkanazis which are essentially Eastern Europeans with some Jewish blood. If you buy into Nephalim and mixing of angelic and human DNA, then Sephardic jewish people would be the last to have it. So no black marks for being RH- if you see things from a Biblical point of view. Please provide referential proof that the jewish people specifically (Sephardic or otherwise) are (or ever were) the 'chosen ones'. I've never seen that in scriptures. You seem to imply here, that they're above reproach for some mysterious reason. You seem to believe that they ~cannot possibly be the "demon seed". Do you also believe that the scriptures were all written by jewish people? (Not transcribed or copied, but actually originally written by ~jewish people). Btw, I've reasons to believe Rh-'s are indeed hybrids (ie, descendants of Neanderthals), but weren't bred with supernatural or mythical beings. That's pure fantasy, wishful thinking (or, figurative / metaphorical language / speech). Instead, they were bred with real mammals (primates), not Human. DNA science has already proven it, but it's being covered up by the Media and others, for obvious reasons. As I am intensely interested in the origins of rh negative blood, I would be so thankful if you would point me to the evidence that science has proven the rh negative bloodline was a result of humans mating with primates. As far as my ancestors go....I wouldn't put anything past them.......... THE PRODUCTION OF ANTI-HUMAN GLOBULIN SERUM (COOMBS REAGENT) IN GOATS BY I. DUNSFORD AND C. C. BOWLEY From the National Blood Transfusion Service, Northfield Road, Crookes, Sheffield (RECEIVED FOR PUBLICATION MARCH 8, 1956) The rabbit is customarily used for the preparation of anti-human globulin serum, but there are several objections to the choice of this animal. These are: (1) The volume of serum obtained is small. To maintain supplies it is necessary either to have several animals producing the reagent, or to hyperimmunize and bleed the rabbits used too frequently, which in turn results in a less specific reagent. (2) The rabbit is prone to myxomatosis. This note reports the preparation of the reagent in the goat. The procedure has the following advantages over preparation in rabbits: (1) It yields larger volumes of serum. (2) The goat is not prone to infection with myxomatosis. (3) The immunizing and bleeding operations are simpler and quicker. (4) For the laboratory using or distributing large quantities of the reagent feeding and housing a goat is less costly than keeping 20 or 30 rabbits. Method Sterile group 0 serum, 5 ml., was injected intramuscularly (gluteal muscles) every three to four days to a total of 10 injections. Ten days after the last injection 10-20 ml. blood was withdrawn from the leg vein. After heating the serum at 56° C. for 30 minutes (to inactivate complement) the serum was titrated in parallel against red cells sensitized with an incomplete anti-D and against unsensitized cells. Provided that the titre against the sensitized cells was at least 20 times as great as that against the non-sensitized cells, the goat was bled from the external jugular vein for 400 to 500 ml. The hair of the neck was closely clipped and a long (20 cm.) largebore needle (3 mm. external diameter) used. The blood was allowed to run straight from the needle into a sterile bottle. After clotting the serum was separated with aseptic precautions. Following inactivation of the complement as before, the anti-human agglutinins were removed by absorption with well-washed A, B, and 0 cells as for rabbit anti-human globulin serum. The goat anti-human globulin serum was standardized in the... I couldn't copy the link, so posted part of the paper here. Also, [link to en.wikipedia.org] A Coombs reagent (aka "anti-Human serum") was manufactured from the blood of Rhesus monkeys, back in the 1940's, when scientists were trying to understand why a particular anonymous couple kept giving birth to stillborns. The mother's blood (like all Rhesus negatives) did NOT "agglutinate" (or, clump; coagulate, curdle, etc.) when introduced to the serum made from the monkey blood. However, her husband's blood DID agglutinate when in contact w/ the Coomb's reagent (which is still used for testing blood samples for the 'Rhesus factor'). Therefore, Rhesus negatives' blood is compatible w/ monkey blood, while Rhesus positives are not. It is not the fault of Rhesus positive people, that the scientists at first erroneously reported the woman's husband, instead of the Rh- woman herself, as the one whose blood was compatible with the "Anti-Human" serum. In fact, it seems to have been some sort of mis-communication. Because the fact is that it is Rh negative blood, which is compatible (doesn't agglutinate) in the testing serum (made from Rhesus monkey blood). Blood products from Rhesus monkeys are (or were) incubated in rabbits, goats, or other lab animals, in order to produce the Anti-D (aka "Anti-Human" serum). "D" is the factor found in Rhesus positive people. There are many websites which point out that fact. Here's one, but I've also seen it stated on the AMA / Red Cross sites. [link to www.ginkgo-web.de] As for not putting your ancestors past it, remember: Humanity has been forced to survive climatic cataclysms which have cause severe bottlenecking of our species. Human beings are intelligent enough to survive such things, but also enough to get ourselves into lots of trouble. Also, take a good look at the temple frescoes in Northern India: the "Monkey Armies". Those aren't totally mythic, there's a lot of truth behind it. They were agriculturalists, who prided themselves on their ability to create hybrid crops and animals too (cattle, etc.). Around the same time that the Vedic agriculturalists were experimenting with breeding, they also introduced the caste systems, monarchies, and slavery to their societies. Even today, certain people are talking about creating a slave race of hybrids (Human x Chimpanzee). However, whether they realize it or not -- it's already been done. And the only way to do it, is to breed a female Human with a male lower primate (certain monkeys or apes). Well - there you have it folks.....it's US that are the monkey bloods!  |
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User ID: 1443836 United States03/18/2012 07:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So if RH- are "demon seed" or decended from Nephalim, then why are so many Shepardic jewish people RH-? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11690490 Sephardic jewish people are original jewish people of the Bible, unlike Ashkanazis which are essentially Eastern Europeans with some Jewish blood. If you buy into Nephalim and mixing of angelic and human DNA, then Sephardic jewish people would be the last to have it. So no black marks for being RH- if you see things from a Biblical point of view. Please provide referential proof that the jewish people specifically (Sephardic or otherwise) are (or ever were) the 'chosen ones'. I've never seen that in scriptures. You seem to imply here, that they're above reproach for some mysterious reason. You seem to believe that they ~cannot possibly be the "demon seed". Do you also believe that the scriptures were all written by jewish people? (Not transcribed or copied, but actually originally written by ~jewish people). Btw, I've reasons to believe Rh-'s are indeed hybrids (ie, descendants of Neanderthals), but weren't bred with supernatural or mythical beings. That's pure fantasy, wishful thinking (or, figurative / metaphorical language / speech). Instead, they were bred with real mammals (primates), not Human. DNA science has already proven it, but it's being covered up by the Media and others, for obvious reasons. As I am intensely interested in the origins of rh negative blood, I would be so thankful if you would point me to the evidence that science has proven the rh negative bloodline was a result of humans mating with primates. As far as my ancestors go....I wouldn't put anything past them.......... THE PRODUCTION OF ANTI-HUMAN GLOBULIN SERUM (COOMBS REAGENT) IN GOATS BY I. DUNSFORD AND C. C. BOWLEY From the National Blood Transfusion Service, Northfield Road, Crookes, Sheffield (RECEIVED FOR PUBLICATION MARCH 8, 1956) The rabbit is customarily used for the preparation of anti-human globulin serum, but there are several objections to the choice of this animal. These are: (1) The volume of serum obtained is small. To maintain supplies it is necessary either to have several animals producing the reagent, or to hyperimmunize and bleed the rabbits used too frequently, which in turn results in a less specific reagent. (2) The rabbit is prone to myxomatosis. This note reports the preparation of the reagent in the goat. The procedure has the following advantages over preparation in rabbits: (1) It yields larger volumes of serum. (2) The goat is not prone to infection with myxomatosis. (3) The immunizing and bleeding operations are simpler and quicker. (4) For the laboratory using or distributing large quantities of the reagent feeding and housing a goat is less costly than keeping 20 or 30 rabbits. Method Sterile group 0 serum, 5 ml., was injected intramuscularly (gluteal muscles) every three to four days to a total of 10 injections. Ten days after the last injection 10-20 ml. blood was withdrawn from the leg vein. After heating the serum at 56° C. for 30 minutes (to inactivate complement) the serum was titrated in parallel against red cells sensitized with an incomplete anti-D and against unsensitized cells. Provided that the titre against the sensitized cells was at least 20 times as great as that against the non-sensitized cells, the goat was bled from the external jugular vein for 400 to 500 ml. The hair of the neck was closely clipped and a long (20 cm.) largebore needle (3 mm. external diameter) used. The blood was allowed to run straight from the needle into a sterile bottle. After clotting the serum was separated with aseptic precautions. Following inactivation of the complement as before, the anti-human agglutinins were removed by absorption with well-washed A, B, and 0 cells as for rabbit anti-human globulin serum. The goat anti-human globulin serum was standardized in the... I couldn't copy the link, so posted part of the paper here. Also, [link to en.wikipedia.org] A Coombs reagent (aka "anti-Human serum") was manufactured from the blood of Rhesus monkeys, back in the 1940's, when scientists were trying to understand why a particular anonymous couple kept giving birth to stillborns. The mother's blood (like all Rhesus negatives) did NOT "agglutinate" (or, clump; coagulate, curdle, etc.) when introduced to the serum made from the monkey blood. However, her husband's blood DID agglutinate when in contact w/ the Coomb's reagent (which is still used for testing blood samples for the 'Rhesus factor'). Therefore, Rhesus negatives' blood is compatible w/ monkey blood, while Rhesus positives are not. It is not the fault of Rhesus positive people, that the scientists at first erroneously reported the woman's husband, instead of the Rh- woman herself, as the one whose blood was compatible with the "Anti-Human" serum. In fact, it seems to have been some sort of mis-communication. Because the fact is that it is Rh negative blood, which is compatible (doesn't agglutinate) in the testing serum (made from Rhesus monkey blood). Blood products from Rhesus monkeys are (or were) incubated in rabbits, goats, or other lab animals, in order to produce the Anti-D (aka "Anti-Human" serum). "D" is the factor found in Rhesus positive people. There are many websites which point out that fact. Here's one, but I've also seen it stated on the AMA / Red Cross sites. [link to www.ginkgo-web.de] As for not putting your ancestors past it, remember: Humanity has been forced to survive climatic cataclysms which have cause severe bottlenecking of our species. Human beings are intelligent enough to survive such things, but also enough to get ourselves into lots of trouble. Also, take a good look at the temple frescoes in Northern India: the "Monkey Armies". Those aren't totally mythic, there's a lot of truth behind it. They were agriculturalists, who prided themselves on their ability to create hybrid crops and animals too (cattle, etc.). Around the same time that the Vedic agriculturalists were experimenting with breeding, they also introduced the caste systems, monarchies, and slavery to their societies. Even today, certain people are talking about creating a slave race of hybrids (Human x Chimpanzee). However, whether they realize it or not -- it's already been done. And the only way to do it, is to breed a female Human with a male lower primate (certain monkeys or apes). Well - there you have it folks.....it's US that are the monkey bloods! |
| Joshua Flynn User ID: 12736331 United Kingdom03/18/2012 08:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You said good grammar and language skills. Not all languages utilise grammar (in the sense we do, consider Japanese and Latin), and given you wrote it in English to an English speaker I naturally assumed you meant English. Because the person you were referring to would have to speak English too. Being pedantic, but even if we modify it to 'language', the point still stands. The brain has many different functioning areas. Language is just one of them. Not worried about my own language (I wrote it as accurately as possible to contrast with the irony I'm I.Q. deficient to demonstrate a point - I know many people think it means something but it's just egotistical - I use it, I'm egotistical too). I have a daughter who was oxygen-deprived at birth (overdue, 9 1/2 lbs, with the cord wrapped around her neck), who suffers from ADHD, and whose IQ is about where yours is on the scale (a little above "average"). She doesn't read or write very much, but man, she can outspar anybody verbally. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2636202 I stopped bothering with I.Q. tests when I realised they didn't factor in creative thinking. Some word analysis, some visual-spatial questions, a bit of mathematics, but no creative thinking. I'm sort of the opposite. I can read/type fairly well, but verbally I'm very slow. A+. Got diagnosed as 'ADHD' too but I disregarded the label and disproved it. I would be intrigued as to a verbal sparring though. |
| rebecca User ID: 12743887  Norway03/18/2012 08:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hello OP, thank you for this. I'm in the rabbit hole like you, and I'm o-. I wish I could have conversation w you outside this forum, because I have some "private2 experiences that I don't reallt want to share publicly. however,pls tell me - of all the possible theories - where do you land? until now I feel like I'm in between different ones and doubting all of them..... I have eyes that change their colour...is that something mentioned in connection w this? Thank you. |
| Joshua Flynn User ID: 12736331 United Kingdom03/18/2012 09:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you sure you're not Rh-? Isn't that a "trait" that Rh- share, wounds that heal "quickly"? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12100946 6 hours is not a rapid healing time. And that was only the clotting of the blood. I had a skull fracture, so bone regeneration time would have been within weeks. You seem to be seeing something there that I don't. I said the hospital service was so slow (and thus useless) that I healed due to the amount of time that passed. A+. I can show you the card with it written on too if I still have it to hand. Huh? It tests for a protein. It is either there or not. You can do the test yourself at home, in fact! Mix your blood with known Rh+ blood. Does it clump? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12100946 You seem to be merging a number of concepts to form one general concept that is ignorant of the specifics. Either or fallacy. There's a term (look it up) called 'weakly typed D', because, yes, they test for a marker, but just like any other blood test, there is a specific amount. In the same way there can be 'too much B12' and 'too little B12', there's an amount (because genetics aren't black and white, and you should know that). I would demand proof that it's as black and white as you're claiming (because I've already given an example that blood tests work by amount: Iron, B12, electrolytes, glucose, and surprise - protein!). The clump test would be fallacious because it relies on the body (and not the blood) having made anti-bodies (which have to be generated by the glands in the body) in reaction to the blood, so if you were to insert Rh negative blood into Rh positive blood, the anti-bodies likely wouldn't be present as it hasn't been introduced to the body specifically (which is why the first baby in Rh disease is relatively safe - no anti-bodies). However, you're not testing for the presence of an anti-body (and thus clumping via white cells attaching to the foriegn red cells), but the amount of a specific protein - one could say there's 'a lot' or 'a little' but what about those who have it where there is 'some' - Rh negative or Rh positive? Too much blood sugar, or too little? So an anti-body test would be flawed (and you don't want to inject it directly into the body as that is dangerous and would cause complications in females). Remember how white cells work. Generally speaking, foreign bodies, marker cells, marker cells attach to/identify foreign body, other white cells attack. No marker cells, no white cells attack. This goes for every single person out there, regardless of blood type: You are your own best physician. You know your body best. They are there to help you in times of illness and for preventative care, not to tell you why you are the way you are. They are also only human. Also, I don't live in the States, so my health care is different. Maybe the doctors there really don't care, I suppose that's what happens when health care is a for-profit business. Hrm, actually I think Joshua may have been from the UK. I'm not sure what the system is like there. Anywho, long story short(er) - I suspect most doctors truly do want to help you, but they can only do so much. They're not like House, where he can just sit around all day and deduce what could possibly be wrong with this one patient. They can't help when your symptoms aren't physical. They can't help when not in their field of expertise. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12100946 Despite beating the pro-doctor drum, my skull fracture, I most assure you was physical, and waiting 6 hours before treatment (would you leave a stab wound for 6 hours? One quarter of a day.) means it wasn't in my best interests. They are supposed to be trained, but instead, I, a member of the public, who only does some part-time googling, the 'armchair researcher', so to speak, am better informed than someone who spend years studying? How does that work? What did they do for all those years? I have a skull fracture. It's only one of two things - it's either very serious, and needs to be seen to ASAP, or it only needs minor treatment and I can go home - rather than sitting around in a dingy waiting room for 6 hours potentially catching some other disease. The for-profit system in the US is far worse, because they are more likely to scam you for cash. Here, it's bad for the opposite but same reason, they will more likely fob you off with 'no need to worry! Your head's just bleeding.' in order to save cash. If I, a student who failed his degree, scrapped grades at school and breaks stuff, am more competent than a 40 year old man who sits in a medical practice in regards to medicine (I had explained why there was no need to test for diabetes - I didn't drink that much water. The test confirmed my glucose levels were normal.), they have well and truly muffed up. I fail to see the difference between Rh- Power and White Power. They are both meant to separate one group from the "inferior" group by "keeping the blood pure". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12100946 No, you're just getting the wrong end of the stick here. And that social inexperience showing again, and I'll explain why. Firstly, there's a logical reason for Rh negative women to have Rh negative men - it reduces the number of potential miscarriages due to the potential anti-body reaction and the blood clumping, as you said. The baby is a living being too, don't forget that. Secondly, this isn't what's being advocated (everyone is getting riled and ruffled feathers), there's no 'purist' element. As for the social inexperience? People who fall in love will cross many boundaries when doing so. Actually, statistically speaking, assuming neither person knows their bloodtype, there would be no reason to suspect that an (unaware) Rh negative person would favour an Rh negative person over an Rh positive person (assuming all people involved were ignorant and had similar lifestyles etc). In terms for love crossing boundaries, it's why you have -/+ hybrids. From my understanding, Rh negatives seem to fall in love with just as many Rh positives as Rh negatives. I've seen it with every single group of humans that I've come across, from book clubs to street gangs. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12100946 Herd behaviour. I have no group to associate with. You won't be able to get people to stop acting like it though, because it's how group cohesion is maintained. I'm the one who suggested a better list and has been working with you to compile it, so how have "you been left holding it so to speak"? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12100946 Ayianna mentioned about compiling a list a number of pages earlier, which I did attempt to construct using information I know was supported at least in reference and also anecdotally, but it completely scraps, rather than expands upon, the version originally stated. My entire point was that they are like me, that one missing protein doesn't make us entirely different beings and doesn't correlate with all the "traits" presented in the OP. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12100946 I have always reasoned this, but you're going a bit far with it. I think lists such as those provoke jealousy and the like from those not deemed on the 'in-group'. igh, I have a feeling I'm going back to being hated in this thread... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12100946 You're not inferior, and you're not hated. If anything, I see a lot of myself in you. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12100946 Canada03/18/2012 10:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you sure you're not Rh-? Isn't that a "trait" that Rh- share, wounds that heal "quickly"? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12100946 6 hours is not a rapid healing time. And that was only the clotting of the blood. I had a skull fracture, so bone regeneration time would have been within weeks. You seem to be seeing something there that I don't. I said the hospital service was so slow (and thus useless) that I healed due to the amount of time that passed. A+. I can show you the card with it written on too if I still have it to hand. That was a joke! I'm sorry you had a bad experience, however I still believe that not all doctors are idiots and inferior to your Google-fu. Huh? It tests for a protein. It is either there or not. You can do the test yourself at home, in fact! Mix your blood with known Rh+ blood. Does it clump? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12100946 You seem to be merging a number of concepts to form one general concept that is ignorant of the specifics. Either or fallacy. There's a term (look it up) called 'weakly typed D', because, yes, they test for a marker, but just like any other blood test, there is a specific amount. In the same way there can be 'too much B12' and 'too little B12', there's an amount (because genetics aren't black and white, and you should know that). I would demand proof that it's as black and white as you're claiming (because I've already given an example that blood tests work by amount: Iron, B12, electrolytes, glucose, and surprise - protein!). The tests you mentioned test levels in the blood, yes. However, it is your genes that determine your blood type by determining what proteins make up your blood. You can't be weakly A or kinda HIV positive. The clump test would be fallacious because it relies on the body (and not the blood) having made anti-bodies (which have to be generated by the glands in the body) in reaction to the blood, so if you were to insert Rh negative blood into Rh positive blood, the anti-bodies likely wouldn't be present as it hasn't been introduced to the body specifically (which is why the first baby in Rh disease is relatively safe - no anti-bodies).You're right. My bad. However, you're not testing for the presence of an anti-body (and thus clumping via white cells attaching to the foriegn red cells), but the amount of a specific protein - one could say there's 'a lot' or 'a little' but what about those who have it where there is 'some' - Rh negative or Rh positive? Too much blood sugar, or too little? So an anti-body test would be flawed (and you don't want to inject it directly into the body as that is dangerous and would cause complications in females). Remember how white cells work. Generally speaking, foreign bodies, marker cells, marker cells attach to/identify foreign body, other white cells attack. No marker cells, no white cells attack. This goes for every single person out there, regardless of blood type: You are your own best physician. You know your body best. They are there to help you in times of illness and for preventative care, not to tell you why you are the way you are. They are also only human. Also, I don't live in the States, so my health care is different. Maybe the doctors there really don't care, I suppose that's what happens when health care is a for-profit business. Hrm, actually I think Joshua may have been from the UK. I'm not sure what the system is like there. Anywho, long story short(er) - I suspect most doctors truly do want to help you, but they can only do so much. They're not like House, where he can just sit around all day and deduce what could possibly be wrong with this one patient. They can't help when your symptoms aren't physical. They can't help when not in their field of expertise. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12100946 Despite beating the pro-doctor drum, my skull fracture, I most assure you was physical, and waiting 6 hours before treatment (would you leave a stab wound for 6 hours? One quarter of a day.) means it wasn't in my best interests. They are supposed to be trained, but instead, I, a member of the public, who only does some part-time googling, the 'armchair researcher', so to speak, am better informed than someone who spend years studying? How does that work? What did they do for all those years? How arrogant of you! I like it! I have a skull fracture. It's only one of two things - it's either very serious, and needs to be seen to ASAP, or it only needs minor treatment and I can go home - rather than sitting around in a dingy waiting room for 6 hours potentially catching some other disease. The for-profit system in the US is far worse, because they are more likely to scam you for cash. Here, it's bad for the opposite but same reason, they will more likely fob you off with 'no need to worry! Your head's just bleeding.' in order to save cash. If I, a student who failed his degree, scrapped grades at school and breaks stuff, am more competent than a 40 year old man who sits in a medical practice in regards to medicine (I had explained why there was no need to test for diabetes - I didn't drink that much water. The test confirmed my glucose levels were normal.), they have well and truly muffed up. You should really try working with your doctor instead of belittling him. Would you be so arrogant with a contractor when discussing the hidden foundational structure of your house? Or would you share information and respect both his expertise and your insider knowledge of your house? Or maybe you should just find another doctor. I, for one, wouldn't visit an armchair surgeon, no matter how much she thought she knew about everything. I fail to see the difference between Rh- Power and White Power. They are both meant to separate one group from the "inferior" group by "keeping the blood pure". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12100946 No, you're just getting the wrong end of the stick here. And that social inexperience showing again, and I'll explain why. Firstly, there's a logical reason for Rh negative women to have Rh negative men - it reduces the number of potential miscarriages due to the potential anti-body reaction and the blood clumping, as you said. The baby is a living being too, don't forget that. So does the shot. Secondly, this isn't what's being advocated (everyone is getting riled and ruffled feathers), there's no 'purist' element. I'm sorry, did you miss the Rh- bloodline icon at the end of the OP? As for the social inexperience? People who fall in love will cross many boundaries when doing so. Actually, statistically speaking, assuming neither person knows their bloodtype, there would be no reason to suspect that an (unaware) Rh negative person would favour an Rh negative person over an Rh positive person (assuming all people involved were ignorant and had similar lifestyles etc). Again, that's why they made the shot. You know, the evil medical establishment. There would be no favouritism if it weren't for these campaigns to keep the bloodline pure. In terms for love crossing boundaries, it's why you have -/+ hybrids. From my understanding, Rh negatives seem to fall in love with just as many Rh positives as Rh negatives.Yep, demonstrating that the differences really aren't that great, huh? I've seen it with every single group of humans that I've come across, from book clubs to street gangs. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12100946 Herd behaviour. I have no group to associate with. You won't be able to get people to stop acting like it though, because it's how group cohesion is maintained. I'm the one who suggested a better list and has been working with you to compile it, so how have "you been left holding it so to speak"? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12100946 Ayianna mentioned about compiling a list a number of pages earlier, which I did attempt to construct using information I know was supported at least in reference and also anecdotally, but it completely scraps, rather than expands upon, the version originally stated. Alright, I see. My apologies. My entire point was that they are like me, that one missing protein doesn't make us entirely different beings and doesn't correlate with all the "traits" presented in the OP. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12100946 I have always reasoned this, but you're going a bit far with it. I think lists such as those provoke jealousy and the like from those not deemed on the 'in-group'. How am I going too far with it? igh, I have a feeling I'm going back to being hated in this thread... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12100946 You're not inferior, and you're not hated. If anything, I see a lot of myself in you.  |
