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Predestined! Let us talk about this

TELL THEM VALDEZ IS COMING

I will jump right in,first let us understand that on this earth there are two nations warring and two kingdoms warring,satans kingdom and his seed Esau against the kingdom of God his seed Israel/Jacob. The contention between jacob and esau is on going ever since their birth, and our heavenly fahter clearly states Jacob I love and esau he hates.

Though Israel was scattered they are not done away with,they are the apple of the creators eyes and he promised to restore Israel in the future. Israel being disobedient were sent to many different nations as bond men and bond women serving different Gods of stone and wood. A people with a new tongue murdered butchered , no identity and mixed amongst babylon nations.



The gentile nation was grafted in to the salvation plan on this account only if they follow the ways of the most high by agreement to the new covenant messiah. The world today has moved away from the old path and are mostly involved in false religious worships of the gentile churches today a false form of worship.

In this big barrel of confusion "Babylon" you have Gods people Israel believers and unbelievers , gentile believers and unbelievers and another group the edomites esau's seed amalek. Follow with me friends this is interesting!
Correction in red missed the word "and" in the original posting My apology for any misunderstanding



The edomites are the serpent seed,and are not predestined for salvation that race will be wiped out from the earth .IT HAS BEEN PROVEN AND PROHESIED. ALL OTHER KINGS FAILED TO ELIMINATE AMALEK.
SAUL FAILED,KING DAVID FAILED SO THE THE KING Y'SHAYAH IS COMING FOR THAT PURPOSE HE IS THE ONLY KING WILL REIGN OVER THE SERPENT SEED AND RESTORE ORDER IN THE EARTH..



When messiah came he announced that he came unto the lost tribe of israel...He said my sheep hear my voice
He called the edomite pharasees children of satan.vipers and murderers etc.

THE PICTURE IS BECOMING CLEARER RIGHT?

The fathers children are growing together as weeds and thorns amongst the wheat and there are those who will hear his voice and still reject the truth and those who will wash themselves from the state they are in and come home to him.


The predestined are chiefly his people Israel,the Gentiles who he has called to salvation will get into the kingdom but they were never predestined.

Many are still lost out there,and will not turn back and conform, hence the reason for freewill to which everyone is given.

This group "PREDESTINED " are those who the promise was for the 12 tribes of Israel.Like messiah said salvation is of the judean and he came unto the lost sheep of Israel

"TO THE HEBREW FIRST THEN THE GENTILE"

SO THIS SCRIPTURE ABOUT THE PREDESTINED IS YOU WHOM HE HAS CALLED HIS PEOPLE AND YOU WHO WERE GRAFTED IN. THE REST IS UP TO THESE HIS PEOPLE AND THOSE GRAFTED IN TO WORK OUT THEIR SALVATION BECAUSE YOU DONT IT IS ALL LOST.

THIS IS THE POWER OF FREEWILL THAT YOUR LIBERTY IS NO EXCUSE TO LIVE LAWLESSLY AND LOSE WHAT YOU WERE PREDESTINED FOR.

THE SCRIPTURE SAYS I KNOW THOSE WHO ARE MINE


John 6:44-45 “No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him, and I will raise him up at the last day. 45It is written in the Prophets: ‘They will all be taught by God.

That's not all Jesus has to say. He was giving a warning that THE BIBLE WILL INTENTIONALLY BECOME DECEPTIVE lest the ones NOT CHOSEN should actually understand it and believe!
This section above was currently redited to reflect what is really meant!


Matthew 13:10-15 And the disciples came and said to Him, “Why do You speak to them in parables?” 11 He answered and said to them, “Because it has been given to you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given. 12 For whoever has, to him more will be given, and he will have abundance; but whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him. 13 Therefore I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand. 14 And in them the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled, which says:

‘ Hearing you will hear and shall not understand,
And seeing you will see and not perceive;
15 For the hearts of this people have grown dull.
Their ears are hard of hearing,
And their eyes they have closed,
Lest they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears,
Lest they should understand with their hearts and turn,
So that I should heal them.’


Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 10/06/2012 05:56 PM
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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THERE ARE THOSE WHO WILL NOT ONLY TRY TO DESTROY THE TRUTH BUT THEY WILL HAVE NASTY THINGS TO SAY ABOUT ONES CHARACTER,NO DIFFERENT FROM THE POLITICAINS WHO CAMPAIGN TODAY.NO DIFFERENT FROM THE TIMES OF MESSIAH THEY RESORTED TO CALL HIM A PUBLICAN AND WINEBIBBER ADULTERER.THEY ARE ALL EVENING WOLVES!

TEST THE WORD I ALWAYS SAY TEST THE WORD PRECEPT UPON PRECEPT LINE UPON LINE

Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 03/06/2012 12:18 PM
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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You are going to get a big shock when you find out who are the 'lost' tribes of Israel and remember all the things you have accused us of and our fate according to you will be turned back onto you and your people .
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You are going to get a big shock when you find out who are the 'lost' tribes of Israel and remember all the things you have accused us of and our fate according to you will be turned back onto you and your people .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11876992


please slither on!
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
:knoup:
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predestined! Let us talk about this

I will jump right in,first let us understand that on this earth there are two nations warring and two kingdoms warring,satans kingdom and his seed Esau against the kingdom of God his seed Israel/Jacob. The contention between jacob and esau is on going ever since their birth, and our heavenly fahter clearly states Jacob I love and esau he hates.

Though Israel was scattered they are not done away with,they are the apple of the creators eyes and he promised to restore Israel in the future. Israel being disobedient were sent to many different nations as bond men and bond women serving different Gods of stone and wood. A people with a new tongue murdered butchered , no identity and mixed amongst babylon nations.

The gentile nation was grafted in to the salvation plan on this account only if they follow the ways of the most high by agreement to the new covenant messiah. The world today has moved away from the old path and are mostly involved in false religious worships of the gentile churches today a false form of worship.

In this big barrel of confusion "Babylon" you have Gods people Israel believers and unbelievers , gentile believers and unbelievers,edomites esau's seed amalek. Follow with me friends this is interesting!

The edomites are the serpent seed,and are not predestined for salvation that race will be wiped out from the earth .IT HAS BEEN PROVEN AND PROHESIED. ALL OTHER KINGS FAILED TO ELIMINATE AMALEK,SAUL,KING DAVID SO THE THE KING Y'SHAYAH IS COMING FOR THAT PURPOSE HE IS THE ONLY KING WILL REIGN OVER THE SERPENT SEED AND RESTORE ORDER IN THE EARTH..


When messiah came he announced that he came unto the lost tribe of israel...He said my sheep hear my voice
He called the edomite pharasees children of satan.vipers and murderers etc.

THE PICTURE IS BECOMING CLEARER RIGHT?

The fathers children are growing together as weeds and thorns amongst the wheat and there are those who will hear his voice and still reject the truth and those who will wash themselves from the state they are in and come home to him.


The predestined are his people Israel and the Gentiles who he has called to salvation,many are still lost out there,and will not turn back and conform, hence the reason for freewill to which everyone is given. THIS WHOLE GROUP ARE "PREDESTINED TO SALVATION" BUT ONLY FEW WILL ANSWER THE CALL and seek the father honestly!

"TO THE HEBREW FIRST THEN THE GENTILE"

SO THIS SCRIPTURE ABOUT THE PREDESTINED IS YOU WHOM HE HAS CALLED HIS PEOPLE AND YOU WHO WERE GRAFTED IN. THE REST IS UP TO THESE HIS PEOPLE AND THOSE GRAFTED IN TO WORK OUT THEIR SALVATION BECAUSE YOU DONT IT IS ALL LOST.

THIS IS THE POWER OF FREEWILL THAT YOUR LIBERTY IS NO EXCUSE TO LIVE LAWLESSLY AND LOSE WHAT YOU WERE PREDESTINED FOR.

THE SCRIPTURE SAYS I KNOW THOSE WHO ARE MINE


John 6:44-45 “No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him, and I will raise him up at the last day. 45It is written in the Prophets: ‘They will all be taught by God.

That's not all Jesus has to say. He even states that THE BIBLE IS INTENTIONALLY DECEPTIVE lest the ones NOT CHOSEN should actually understand it and believe!

Matthew 13:10-15 And the disciples came and said to Him, “Why do You speak to them in parables?” 11 He answered and said to them, “Because it has been given to you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given. 12 For whoever has, to him more will be given, and he will have abundance; but whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him. 13 Therefore I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand. 14 And in them the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled, which says:

‘ Hearing you will hear and shall not understand,
And seeing you will see and not perceive;
15 For the hearts of this people have grown dull.
Their ears are hard of hearing,
And their eyes they have closed,
Lest they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears,
Lest they should understand with their hearts and turn,
So that I should heal them.’

 Quoting: neim777

Satans seed is not Esau, satans seed are the Kenites that are from Cain.
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You are going to get a big shock when you find out who are the 'lost' tribes of Israel and remember all the things you have accused us of and our fate according to you will be turned back onto you and your people .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11876992


please slither on!
 Quoting: neim777


TELL THEM VALDEZ IS COMING
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
:knoup:
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You are going to get a big shock when you find out who are the 'lost' tribes of Israel and remember all the things you have accused us of and our fate according to you will be turned back onto you and your people .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11876992


please slither on!
 Quoting: neim777


You have continually cursed the 'lost' tribes of Israel with your evil agenda , may He humble you and show you the error of your way , in Yahweh's name , amen !
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predestined! Let us talk about this

I will jump right in,first let us understand that on this earth there are two nations warring and two kingdoms warring,satans kingdom and his seed Esau against the kingdom of God his seed Israel/Jacob. The contention between jacob and esau is on going ever since their birth, and our heavenly fahter clearly states Jacob I love and esau he hates.

Though Israel was scattered they are not done away with,they are the apple of the creators eyes and he promised to restore Israel in the future. Israel being disobedient were sent to many different nations as bond men and bond women serving different Gods of stone and wood. A people with a new tongue murdered butchered , no identity and mixed amongst babylon nations.

The gentile nation was grafted in to the salvation plan on this account only if they follow the ways of the most high by agreement to the new covenant messiah. The world today has moved away from the old path and are mostly involved in false religious worships of the gentile churches today a false form of worship.

In this big barrel of confusion "Babylon" you have Gods people Israel believers and unbelievers , gentile believers and unbelievers,edomites esau's seed amalek. Follow with me friends this is interesting!

The edomites are the serpent seed,and are not predestined for salvation that race will be wiped out from the earth .IT HAS BEEN PROVEN AND PROHESIED. ALL OTHER KINGS FAILED TO ELIMINATE AMALEK,SAUL,KING DAVID SO THE THE KING Y'SHAYAH IS COMING FOR THAT PURPOSE HE IS THE ONLY KING WILL REIGN OVER THE SERPENT SEED AND RESTORE ORDER IN THE EARTH..


When messiah came he announced that he came unto the lost tribe of israel...He said my sheep hear my voice
He called the edomite pharasees children of satan.vipers and murderers etc.

THE PICTURE IS BECOMING CLEARER RIGHT?

The fathers children are growing together as weeds and thorns amongst the wheat and there are those who will hear his voice and still reject the truth and those who will wash themselves from the state they are in and come home to him.


The predestined are his people Israel and the Gentiles who he has called to salvation,many are still lost out there,and will not turn back and conform, hence the reason for freewill to which everyone is given. THIS WHOLE GROUP ARE "PREDESTINED TO SALVATION" BUT ONLY FEW WILL ANSWER THE CALL and seek the father honestly!

"TO THE HEBREW FIRST THEN THE GENTILE"

SO THIS SCRIPTURE ABOUT THE PREDESTINED IS YOU WHOM HE HAS CALLED HIS PEOPLE AND YOU WHO WERE GRAFTED IN. THE REST IS UP TO THESE HIS PEOPLE AND THOSE GRAFTED IN TO WORK OUT THEIR SALVATION BECAUSE YOU DONT IT IS ALL LOST.

THIS IS THE POWER OF FREEWILL THAT YOUR LIBERTY IS NO EXCUSE TO LIVE LAWLESSLY AND LOSE WHAT YOU WERE PREDESTINED FOR.

THE SCRIPTURE SAYS I KNOW THOSE WHO ARE MINE


John 6:44-45 “No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him, and I will raise him up at the last day. 45It is written in the Prophets: ‘They will all be taught by God.

That's not all Jesus has to say. He even states that THE BIBLE IS INTENTIONALLY DECEPTIVE lest the ones NOT CHOSEN should actually understand it and believe!

Matthew 13:10-15 And the disciples came and said to Him, “Why do You speak to them in parables?” 11 He answered and said to them, “Because it has been given to you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given. 12 For whoever has, to him more will be given, and he will have abundance; but whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him. 13 Therefore I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand. 14 And in them the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled, which says:

‘ Hearing you will hear and shall not understand,
And seeing you will see and not perceive;
15 For the hearts of this people have grown dull.
Their ears are hard of hearing,
And their eyes they have closed,
Lest they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears,
Lest they should understand with their hearts and turn,
So that I should heal them.’

 Quoting: neim777

Satans seed is not Esau, satans seed are the Kenites that are from Cain.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9967381


it continued through esau..the bloodline of the women on the ark
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
:knoup:
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You are going to get a big shock when you find out who are the 'lost' tribes of Israel and remember all the things you have accused us of and our fate according to you will be turned back onto you and your people .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11876992


please slither on!
 Quoting: neim777


TELL THEM VALDEZ IS COMING
 Quoting: neim777


Pride comes before the fall , you really think you're something special , you sound like a tool , lol
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You are going to get a big shock when you find out who are the 'lost' tribes of Israel and remember all the things you have accused us of and our fate according to you will be turned back onto you and your people .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11876992


please slither on!
 Quoting: neim777


TELL THEM VALDEZ IS COMING
 Quoting: neim777


Pride comes before the fall , you really think you're something special , you sound like a tool , lol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11876992


one liner fake ..slither on!why you mad esau?

Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 03/06/2012 09:39 AM
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
:knoup:
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Your hate and bitterness stems from envy but we just received the birthright blessings that we were promised .
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You mad ? LOL
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Your hate and bitterness stems from envy but we just received the birthright blessings that we were promised .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11876992


why you mad esau ..how are you exposed esau?
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
:knoup:
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Your hate and bitterness stems from envy but we just received the birthright blessings that we were promised .
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why you mad esau ..how are you exposed esau?
 Quoting: neim777


You are going to be even madder very soon . LOL
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Your hate and bitterness stems from envy but we just received the birthright blessings that we were promised .
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why you mad esau ..how are you exposed esau?
 Quoting: neim777


"I will surely bless you and make your descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and as the sand on the seashore. Your descendants will take possession of the cities of their enemies" Genesis 22:17

Sound familiar 'Native' ? LOL
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Your hate and bitterness stems from envy but we just received the birthright blessings that we were promised .
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why you mad esau ..how are you exposed esau?
 Quoting: neim777


You are going to be even madder very soon . LOL
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11876992


On the contrary not! but you yep!

Behold, I have made thee small among the heathen: thou art greatly despised.

3 The pride of thine heart hath deceived thee, thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock, whose habitation is high; that saith in his heart, Who shall bring me down to the ground?

4 Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle, and though thou set thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith the LORD.

Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 03/06/2012 09:43 AM
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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predestined! Let us talk about this

I will jump right in,first let us understand that on this earth there are two nations warring and two kingdoms warring,satans kingdom and his seed Esau against the kingdom of God his seed Israel/Jacob. The contention between jacob and esau is on going ever since their birth, and our heavenly fahter clearly states Jacob I love and esau he hates.

Though Israel was scattered they are not done away with,they are the apple of the creators eyes and he promised to restore Israel in the future. Israel being disobedient were sent to many different nations as bond men and bond women serving different Gods of stone and wood. A people with a new tongue murdered butchered , no identity and mixed amongst babylon nations.

The gentile nation was grafted in to the salvation plan on this account only if they follow the ways of the most high by agreement to the new covenant messiah. The world today has moved away from the old path and are mostly involved in false religious worships of the gentile churches today a false form of worship.

In this big barrel of confusion "Babylon" you have Gods people Israel believers and unbelievers , gentile believers and unbelievers,edomites esau's seed amalek. Follow with me friends this is interesting!

The edomites are the serpent seed,and are not predestined for salvation that race will be wiped out from the earth .IT HAS BEEN PROVEN AND PROHESIED. ALL OTHER KINGS FAILED TO ELIMINATE AMALEK,SAUL,KING DAVID SO THE THE KING Y'SHAYAH IS COMING FOR THAT PURPOSE HE IS THE ONLY KING WILL REIGN OVER THE SERPENT SEED AND RESTORE ORDER IN THE EARTH..


When messiah came he announced that he came unto the lost tribe of israel...He said my sheep hear my voice
He called the edomite pharasees children of satan.vipers and murderers etc.

THE PICTURE IS BECOMING CLEARER RIGHT?

The fathers children are growing together as weeds and thorns amongst the wheat and there are those who will hear his voice and still reject the truth and those who will wash themselves from the state they are in and come home to him.


The predestined are his people Israel and the Gentiles who he has called to salvation,many are still lost out there,and will not turn back and conform, hence the reason for freewill to which everyone is given. THIS WHOLE GROUP ARE "PREDESTINED TO SALVATION" BUT ONLY FEW WILL ANSWER THE CALL and seek the father honestly!

"TO THE HEBREW FIRST THEN THE GENTILE"

SO THIS SCRIPTURE ABOUT THE PREDESTINED IS YOU WHOM HE HAS CALLED HIS PEOPLE AND YOU WHO WERE GRAFTED IN. THE REST IS UP TO THESE HIS PEOPLE AND THOSE GRAFTED IN TO WORK OUT THEIR SALVATION BECAUSE YOU DONT IT IS ALL LOST.

THIS IS THE POWER OF FREEWILL THAT YOUR LIBERTY IS NO EXCUSE TO LIVE LAWLESSLY AND LOSE WHAT YOU WERE PREDESTINED FOR.

THE SCRIPTURE SAYS I KNOW THOSE WHO ARE MINE


John 6:44-45 “No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him, and I will raise him up at the last day. 45It is written in the Prophets: ‘They will all be taught by God.

That's not all Jesus has to say. He even states that THE BIBLE IS INTENTIONALLY DECEPTIVE lest the ones NOT CHOSEN should actually understand it and believe!

Matthew 13:10-15 And the disciples came and said to Him, “Why do You speak to them in parables?” 11 He answered and said to them, “Because it has been given to you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given. 12 For whoever has, to him more will be given, and he will have abundance; but whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him. 13 Therefore I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand. 14 And in them the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled, which says:

‘ Hearing you will hear and shall not understand,
And seeing you will see and not perceive;
15 For the hearts of this people have grown dull.
Their ears are hard of hearing,
And their eyes they have closed,
Lest they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears,
Lest they should understand with their hearts and turn,
So that I should heal them.’

 Quoting: neim777

Satans seed is not Esau, satans seed are the Kenites that are from Cain.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9967381


it continued through esau..the bloodline of the women on the ark
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No it did not, the blood line of satans offspring started in the garden of eden. Satan beguiled Eve, in other words Satan had sex with Eve, she conceived his offspring Cain, Adam also had sex with Eve, she conceived Abel, Cain ended up killing his brother Abel. Jesus was talking to the Kenites Satans offspring in

John 8:44 Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it

Do you know who the devil is? The devil is Satan, and he goes by many names. In Revelation 12:9; "And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world;" In the Garden of Eden Satan was called the "old serpent, and the tree of good and evil"

Jesus is telling these Kenites that there father is the devil, who is also called Satan, the dragon, or any of his other names that Satan has because of the roles he has played. Jesus is telling these Kenites that the lust, and murder in your heart is inborn from your father Satan, and you are driven in your spirit to do murder because Satan is your father.

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why you mad esau ..how are you exposed esau?
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You are going to be even madder very soon . LOL
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On the contrary not! but you yep!

Behold, I have made thee small among the heathen: thou art greatly despised.

3 The pride of thine heart hath deceived thee, thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock, whose habitation is high; that saith in his heart, Who shall bring me down to the ground?

4 Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle, and though thou set thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith the LORD.
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Haha , how very dishonest of you to ban me after you posted that shamefully taken out of context scripture . Why did you leave out where you got that from ? What book , chapter , verse ? Your argument is so very weak you heathen . Not happy with the crumbs but wants all the bread for himself too . You will account for this , mark my words !
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The words of the most high I live by ..you want worship? mark your words. you are of your father devil he is the liar and you are his child
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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You are going to be even madder very soon . LOL
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On the contrary not! but you yep!

Behold, I have made thee small among the heathen: thou art greatly despised.

3 The pride of thine heart hath deceived thee, thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock, whose habitation is high; that saith in his heart, Who shall bring me down to the ground?

4 Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle, and though thou set thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith the LORD.
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Haha , how very dishonest of you to ban me after you posted that shamefully taken out of context scripture . Why did you leave out where you got that from ? What book , chapter , verse ? Your argument is so very weak you heathen . Not happy with the crumbs but wants all the bread for himself too . You will account for this , mark my words !
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The words of the most high I live by ..you want worship? mark your words. you are of your father devil he is the liar and you are his child
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lol
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Your threads will testify against you !
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Satan always tries to disrupt truth...using his imps! now get thee hence, Hope you got another laptop
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Predestined! Let us talk about this

TELL THEM VALDEZ IS COMING

I will jump right in,first let us understand that on this earth there are two nations warring and two kingdoms warring,satans kingdom and his seed Esau against the kingdom of God his seed Israel/Jacob. The contention between jacob and esau is on going ever since their birth, and our heavenly fahter clearly states Jacob I love and esau he hates.

Though Israel was scattered they are not done away with,they are the apple of the creators eyes and he promised to restore Israel in the future. Israel being disobedient were sent to many different nations as bond men and bond women serving different Gods of stone and wood. A people with a new tongue murdered butchered , no identity and mixed amongst babylon nations.

The gentile nation was grafted in to the salvation plan on this account only if they follow the ways of the most high by agreement to the new covenant messiah. The world today has moved away from the old path and are mostly involved in false religious worships of the gentile churches today a false form of worship.

In this big barrel of confusion "Babylon" you have Gods people Israel believers and unbelievers , gentile believers and unbelievers,edomites esau's seed amalek. Follow with me friends this is interesting!

The edomites are the serpent seed,and are not predestined for salvation that race will be wiped out from the earth .IT HAS BEEN PROVEN AND PROHESIED. ALL OTHER KINGS FAILED TO ELIMINATE AMALEK.
SAUL FAILED,KING DAVID FAILED SO THE THE KING Y'SHAYAH IS COMING FOR THAT PURPOSE HE IS THE ONLY KING WILL REIGN OVER THE SERPENT SEED AND RESTORE ORDER IN THE EARTH..



When messiah came he announced that he came unto the lost tribe of israel...He said my sheep hear my voice
He called the edomite pharasees children of satan.vipers and murderers etc.

THE PICTURE IS BECOMING CLEARER RIGHT?

The fathers children are growing together as weeds and thorns amongst the wheat and there are those who will hear his voice and still reject the truth and those who will wash themselves from the state they are in and come home to him.


The predestined are his people Israel and the Gentiles who he has called to salvation,many are still lost out there,and will not turn back and conform, hence the reason for freewill to which everyone is given. THIS WHOLE GROUP ARE "PREDESTINED TO SALVATION" BUT ONLY FEW WILL ANSWER THE CALL and seek the father honestly!

"TO THE HEBREW FIRST THEN THE GENTILE"

SO THIS SCRIPTURE ABOUT THE PREDESTINED IS YOU WHOM HE HAS CALLED HIS PEOPLE AND YOU WHO WERE GRAFTED IN. THE REST IS UP TO THESE HIS PEOPLE AND THOSE GRAFTED IN TO WORK OUT THEIR SALVATION BECAUSE YOU DONT IT IS ALL LOST.

THIS IS THE POWER OF FREEWILL THAT YOUR LIBERTY IS NO EXCUSE TO LIVE LAWLESSLY AND LOSE WHAT YOU WERE PREDESTINED FOR.

THE SCRIPTURE SAYS I KNOW THOSE WHO ARE MINE


John 6:44-45 “No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him, and I will raise him up at the last day. 45It is written in the Prophets: ‘They will all be taught by God.

That's not all Jesus has to say. He even states that THE BIBLE IS INTENTIONALLY DECEPTIVE lest the ones NOT CHOSEN should actually understand it and believe!

Matthew 13:10-15 And the disciples came and said to Him, “Why do You speak to them in parables?” 11 He answered and said to them, “Because it has been given to you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given. 12 For whoever has, to him more will be given, and he will have abundance; but whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him. 13 Therefore I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand. 14 And in them the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled, which says:

‘ Hearing you will hear and shall not understand,
And seeing you will see and not perceive;
15 For the hearts of this people have grown dull.
Their ears are hard of hearing,
And their eyes they have closed,
Lest they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears,
Lest they should understand with their hearts and turn,
So that I should heal them.’

 Quoting: neim777



"THIS IS THE POWER OF FREEWILL THAT YOUR LIBERTY IS NO EXCUSE TO LIVE LAWLESSLY AND LOSE WHAT YOU WERE PREDESTINED FOR."

Is there an excuse to live faithlessly and with no love for Gods creation or our fellow man?


Hebrews 3

Jesus Is Greater Than Moses

1 And so, dear brothers and sisters who belong to God and[a] are partners with those called to heaven, think carefully about this Jesus whom we declare to be God’s messenger and High Priest. 2 For he was faithful to God, who appointed him, just as Moses served faithfully when he was entrusted with God’s entire[c] house.
3 But Jesus deserves far more glory than Moses, just as a person who builds a house deserves more praise than the house itself. 4 For every house has a builder, but the one who built everything is God.

5 Moses was certainly faithful in God’s house as a servant. His work was an illustration of the truths God would reveal later. 6 But Christ, as the Son, is in charge of God’s entire house. And we are God’s house, if we keep our courage and remain confident in our hope in Christ.[d]

7 That is why the Holy Spirit says,

“Today when you hear his voice,
8 don’t harden your hearts
as Israel did when they rebelled,
when they tested me in the wilderness.
9 There your ancestors tested and tried my patience,
even though they saw my miracles for forty years.
10 So I was angry with them, and I said,
‘Their hearts always turn away from me.
They refuse to do what I tell them.’
11 So in my anger I took an oath:
‘They will never enter my place of rest.’”[e]

12 Be careful then, dear brothers and sisters.[f] Make sure that your own hearts are not evil and unbelieving, turning you away from the living God. 13 You must warn each other every day, while it is still “today,” so that none of you will be deceived by sin and hardened against God. 14 For if we are faithful to the end, trusting God just as firmly as when we first believed, we will share in all that belongs to Christ. 15 Remember what it says:

“Today when you hear his voice,
don’t harden your hearts
as Israel did when they rebelled.”[g]

16 And who was it who rebelled against God, even though they heard his voice? Wasn’t it the people Moses led out of Egypt? 17 And who made God angry for forty years? Wasn’t it the people who sinned, whose corpses lay in the wilderness? 18 And to whom was God speaking when he took an oath that they would never enter his rest? Wasn’t it the people who disobeyed him? 19 So we see that because of their unbelief they were not able to enter his rest.

YES! AMEN!
"..that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved." Romans 10:9



“See, all your angry enemies lie there, confused and ashamed. Anyone who opposes you will die” Isaiah 41:11
“I am the one who exposes the false prophets as liars by causing events to happen that are contrary to their predictions” Isaiah 44:25
“I have sworn by my own name, and I will never go back on my word: Every knee will bow to me, and every tongue will confess allegiance to my name.” Isaiah 45:23
“He who gives me justice is near. Who will dare to oppose me now? Where are my enemies? Let them appear!” Isaiah 50:8
“I, even I, am the one who comforts you. So why are you afraid of mere humans, who wither lie grass and disappear? Yet you have forgotten the LORD, your Creator, the one who put the stars in the sky and established the earth. Will you remain in constant dread of human oppression? Will you continue to fear the anger of your enemies from morning till night?” Isaiah 51:12-13
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"..that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved." Romans 10:9



“See, all your angry enemies lie there, confused and ashamed. Anyone who opposes you will die” Isaiah 41:11
“I am the one who exposes the false prophets as liars by causing events to happen that are contrary to their predictions” Isaiah 44:25
“I have sworn by my own name, and I will never go back on my word: Every knee will bow to me, and every tongue will confess allegiance to my name.” Isaiah 45:23
“He who gives me justice is near. Who will dare to oppose me now? Where are my enemies? Let them appear!” Isaiah 50:8
“I, even I, am the one who comforts you. So why are you afraid of mere humans, who wither lie grass and disappear? Yet you have forgotten the LORD, your Creator, the one who put the stars in the sky and established the earth. Will you remain in constant dread of human oppression? Will you continue to fear the anger of your enemies from morning till night?” Isaiah 51:12-13
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not important!
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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sounds like twilight, team edward or team jacob bitches 5a
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The OP think he is some kind of Prophet , it is highly amusing and lame .
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7 stars condemn you !
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7 stars condemn you !
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thats all you guys can do..give bad karma and try to sabotage truth with star ratings.Who the father wants to see the truth he will direct
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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call some more friends with laptops
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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keep them coming guys
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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