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I Have Learned the Secret of the Universe... ^_^

 
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if u had seen ur sister being raped in front of u and while trying to save her, u get knifed by a black guy would u love the Rapist? ur hippie theory doesnt make sense, u can forgive ofenses against u, but u will not love the ofender. Thats what the bibel teaches.
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Every stage of your life is a test. It is far easier to simply blame others than to discover within yourself what the test is.

It is not up to me to judge others and judging implies I am better than them. I am better than no-one on this earth because underneath all race, class, religion etc we are ALL made of the same elements, we are all one.

I have been through much pain in my life and it wasn't until I looked into each event and asked what can I learn from it did I see who I really am. It is only when you acknowledge the pain and search for the lesson do you overcome the pain.

Blame simply side-steps the lesson to be learnt.
Be the change you want the World to be. Be with someone that makes you happy.
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OP must be a rich fuck who has everything and an happy life.
Jesus christ may have been a crazy communist jewish, but his ideologies make 100x more sense than your fucking nonsense.
back to what i wrote before, u didnt ask: If u have seen ur sister being raped by a black man, would u love that man? answer me honestly.
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Don't let all these people who still have fear in there hearts get you down. They don't understand, so they will try to place there own fear upon you. Pity them.
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if u had seen ur sister being raped in front of u and while trying to save her, u get knifed by a black guy would u love the Rapist? ur hippie theory doesnt make sense, u can forgive ofenses against u, but u will not love the ofender. Thats what the bibel teaches.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7656423


Every stage of your life is a test. It is far easier to simply blame others than to discover within yourself what the test is.

It is not up to me to judge others and judging implies I am better than them. I am better than no-one on this earth because underneath all race, class, religion etc we are ALL made of the same elements, we are all one.

I have been through much pain in my life and it wasn't until I looked into each event and asked what can I learn from it did I see who I really am. It is only when you acknowledge the pain and search for the lesson do you overcome the pain.

Blame simply side-steps the lesson to be learnt.
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yeah right. If u love your enemy , by general rule, he will take advantage of u.
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i like your post but from my experience there is a good chance you will be hating something within 48 hours. this world doesnt like when people think they have the answer.

i think that the secret of the universe is that it is all nonsense and that makes it all funny.

no matter what you believe it is crazy.

insane world.

hahahahaha.
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48 hours, then 96, then 192, etc. Eventually you will break the programming and be free to keep this belief.

Congrats, stick to it and you have won.

hf
 Quoting: Silent Wind


hf Lol, it's been almost 2 weeks that I've been like this, and it hasn't worn off yet. :) I've been through so much crap in my life, it truly feels like freedom to see life this way. And freedom is what I've always longed for. So, no, I don't think I'm gonna go back to hating stuff. Not worth it, in my opinion, lol.

I'm going to remain free and in love with everything! <3

And, it IS all nonsense, lol. That's why I can laugh, love, and spread the love without care or fear.

Thank you, Silent Wind!!! :D Much love to you!
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if u had seen ur sister being raped in front of u and while trying to save her, u get knifed by a black guy would u love the Rapist? ur hippie theory doesnt make sense, u can forgive ofenses against u, but u will not love the ofender. Thats what the bibel teaches.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7656423


Every stage of your life is a test. It is far easier to simply blame others than to discover within yourself what the test is.

It is not up to me to judge others and judging implies I am better than them. I am better than no-one on this earth because underneath all race, class, religion etc we are ALL made of the same elements, we are all one.

I have been through much pain in my life and it wasn't until I looked into each event and asked what can I learn from it did I see who I really am. It is only when you acknowledge the pain and search for the lesson do you overcome the pain.

Blame simply side-steps the lesson to be learnt.
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yeah right. If u love your enemy , by general rule, he will take advantage of u.
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But by becoming him do you not increase that downward spiral?
Be the change you want the World to be. Be with someone that makes you happy.
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if u had seen ur sister being raped in front of u and while trying to save her, u get knifed by a black guy would u love the Rapist? ur hippie theory doesnt make sense, u can forgive ofenses against u, but u will not love the ofender. Thats what the bibel teaches.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7656423


Every stage of your life is a test. It is far easier to simply blame others than to discover within yourself what the test is.

It is not up to me to judge others and judging implies I am better than them. I am better than no-one on this earth because underneath all race, class, religion etc we are ALL made of the same elements, we are all one.

I have been through much pain in my life and it wasn't until I looked into each event and asked what can I learn from it did I see who I really am. It is only when you acknowledge the pain and search for the lesson do you overcome the pain.

Blame simply side-steps the lesson to be learnt.
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yeah right. If u love your enemy , by general rule, he will take advantage of u.
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"People are often unreasonable, illogical, and self centered...Forgive them anyway. If you are kind, people may accuse you of selfish alterior motives...Be kind anyway. If you are successful, you may win some false friends and some true enemies...Succeed anyway. If you are honest and frank, people may cheat you...Be honest and frank anyway. What you spend years building, someone may destroy overnight...Build anyway. If you find serenity and happiness, they may be jealous...Be happy anyway. The good you do today, people will often forget tomorrow...Do good anyway. Give the world the best you have and it may never be enough! Give the world the best you have anyway. You see, in the Final Analysis, it's between you and God. It was never between you and them, anyway." --Mother Teresa
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Love certainly can exist without hate. However wherever there is free will, in an infinite system, in tests at that, you're going have a Jacob's ladder, infinite rungs of the ladder from denser gravity to higher frequency, from winterlands to summerlands and eutopia's.

Here its about reclaiming our dark squares and working through the problems and having compassion on self and others, not judging.

It has nothing to do with loving hate. Learning from the lessons and letting them go, renouncing harm in self and others but loving all people. Seeing the light in them and seeing it grow.

Unconditional Love is not the same thing as loving the harm. We need to work through the shadow side to transmute it.

But most of all, have humor, joy, laughter, and hold a higher frequency, connect within to Source and Higher Self, to do so.

Its the right attitude however! I would word it, love everyone, those who are filled with goodness and love, and those up their eyeballs in the tests, and those who seem to losing ground.
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Very well said! Love your user name! I've just discovered sungazing myself but our weather's been too erratic to get my practice in full swing!
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Sunrise, or sunset, you have roughly 30 minutes, a little more, where there is no UV, except to avoid eclipses and chemtrails, but you can stare for a while.

Otherwise, and all the times if it feels brighter, just let the sun in gently. Don't harm your vision. The cme's and flares make it too bright much of the time for me lately, but I love cme's!

However, just let the sun in the corner of your eyes them. Tilt your head and look around, on both sides, and just let some get in. Say 10 minutes or more, 20 if its really mild. If you're really in tune with yourself, you'll be sent in.

You can pray, or meditate, connect to more of your Soul, Infinite Self, your Source above too, Spiritual Parents/Family, hold concerns for the world, envision everyone waking up, take any problem, and then go zen mind.

Its like a phone line home, a kind of technology really, a crystalline mirror sending in the Real Unending light, a stargate to many realms, connected to all the other stars.

We've been getting alot of rain. Lately a few good sunny days though.

Also, you'll find yourself thinking a really positive thought and the sun has cut through the thickest clouds, just for you, lit your room up. You may even experience Family, encouragement, more drops of your soul in your vessel, more of yourself, more memories.

CME's are special. So far, there have been different energies coming in, and the first time I became aware of this was August 09. The last ones brought some more memories in. Its like standing in a sunbeam with Family.
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Wow, this sounds amazing! I'm going to start doing this! So lovely. <3
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Great, inspired & inspiring thread!
5*****
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Thank you, I'm so glad you feel that way!!! :D You are inspiring!!!

Mwah!
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if u had seen ur sister being raped in front of u and while trying to save her, u get knifed by a black guy would u love the Rapist? ur hippie theory doesnt make sense, u can forgive ofenses against u, but u will not love the ofender. Thats what the bibel teaches.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7656423


You can only obtain such strength in love through the gracious sacrifice of Jesus Christ,He has shown us how easy it is to embrace sin,but how rewarding it is to sacrifice everything for a testimony of love.

If even one person in your lifetime,truly gives his life to God because of your testimony,you have given him the greatest gift,
everlasting life with God,in whom there is no sickness,nor sadness,only peace.
Shalom
Isaiah 44:22 I have swept away your offenses like a cloud, your sins like the morning mist. Return to me, for I have redeemed you."
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OP, you are totally right.
Being where you are now, you will understand the most amazing quote ever:
The truth will make you free.
Woow, so much truth in such a simple sentence.
And let me add, that if you try to keep where you are at now, life will become so easy that you won´t believe it.Everything you need in life will be there for you even without asking.

When I discovered what you have discovered, like you, I was blown away by the simplicity of it all, I was like... how could i not have seen it before? Signs are everywhere and still I could not see, I had eyes but I was blind. I read wisdom words but I was not able to understand them, maybe my mind did, but not my heart.
Now you know the truth, you will have to make an effort to keep remembering it because this world reality and your ego will try to pull you the opposite way.
Peace be with you.
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Someone on this forum posted about Dr. Hew Len and the Hawaiian Ho'oponponon thing. I read Joe Vitale's book on the Dr. and the thought process and I'm no new age freak, hippy, self help pop psychology nerd or anything like the above, but I have to admit the whole concept os amazing.

Kind of like emotional dynamite. I'm even investigating more about it. I suffer for mostly situational depression from quite a few losses and crap happening in a short period of time and I REFUSE to use the poisonous meds doctors are obsessed with getting you hooked on.

Believe me this is not off topic. And I'll sound flakey if I attempt to describe the concept. It really is surprising me though. ONE BIG THING is taking personal responsibility for everything you do and in your life. What if every human alive honestly did that. Wars-no, crime-not much, crooked lawyers-none.

The martial arts I did for 12 years, Karate and tai-Chi with some Aikido all talked about the same concept of "loving your enemy" to conquer him.

I don't know. It's a cool thing and I'm sticking to it to see where it goes. Can't possibly be worse than the 4 or 5 psychotropic drugs some people I know are on daily.
 Quoting: Captain Spaulding 10648098


You are doing really well!

My journey started long ago. The two questions I had always wanted answered was "who are we?" and "why are we here?". It took a long time with no answers to realise the starting question should have been "why are humans divided at every conceivable level?".

Once you understand our control you realise there is no better way of achieving it than we currently have. It is almost flawless in its design.

This leads to "why?" which opens a huge rabbit hole that leads you to your own answers to the first two questions.

I've been down the rabbit hole and I also concluded that unconditional love is the answer.

I am not new-age and new-age is not a box you can place this inside of. The answer encompasses all boxes.
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TPTB don't want you to realize that at our core we're all one. They wouldn't be able to sell wars to us any other way. Fighting hate with hate is futile. It's been proven it doesn't work though all history. But it's profitable to all the wrong people to keep us separated, hating, fearing and killing each other for "differences" that are not anything but mundane on any serious level.
 Quoting: Captain Spaulding 10648098


You understand very well. This will open a large pandoras box but the end results make it all worth it!

peace
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Thanks. And you're right. I think after all these years I've found a path that works for me and man, when that "pandoras box" opened I found the source of the illusion, and learned there's no easy way to enlightenment. It's a process, not an event. The challenge is bigger than I thought, and at the same time the payoff is a lot more than I had imagined it to be also.
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Someone on this forum posted about Dr. Hew Len and the Hawaiian Ho'oponponon thing. I read Joe Vitale's book on the Dr. and the thought process and I'm no new age freak, hippy, self help pop psychology nerd or anything like the above, but I have to admit the whole concept os amazing.

Kind of like emotional dynamite. I'm even investigating more about it. I suffer for mostly situational depression from quite a few losses and crap happening in a short period of time and I REFUSE to use the poisonous meds doctors are obsessed with getting you hooked on.

Believe me this is not off topic. And I'll sound flakey if I attempt to describe the concept. It really is surprising me though. ONE BIG THING is taking personal responsibility for everything you do and in your life. What if every human alive honestly did that. Wars-no, crime-not much, crooked lawyers-none.

The martial arts I did for 12 years, Karate and tai-Chi with some Aikido all talked about the same concept of "loving your enemy" to conquer him.

I don't know. It's a cool thing and I'm sticking to it to see where it goes. Can't possibly be worse than the 4 or 5 psychotropic drugs some people I know are on daily.
 Quoting: Captain Spaulding 10648098


Thank you, I'm totally going to check him out! I don't like taking meds, either, if I can help it.

I've studied how Taoists think and feel, and have gained so much wisdom from their teachings. I would love to do Tai-Chi, also.

Loving your enemy completely conquers him, imo. :) When you love someone or something, there's no room for fear. When you no longer fear it, then they lose all power over you. You win! :D

Thanks again for sharing, I love learning new things!!!
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OP, you are totally right.
Being where you are now, you will understand the most amazing quote ever:
The truth will make you free.
Woow, so much truth in such a simple sentence.
And let me add, that if you try to keep where you are at now, life will become so easy that you won´t believe it.Everything you need in life will be there for you even without asking.

When I discovered what you have discovered, like you, I was blown away by the simplicity of it all, I was like... how could i not have seen it before? Signs are everywhere and still I could not see, I had eyes but I was blind. I read wisdom words but I was not able to understand them, maybe my mind did, but not my heart.
Now you know the truth, you will have to make an effort to keep remembering it because this world reality and your ego will try to pull you the opposite way.
Peace be with you.
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Ok,what?
You are justifying his words with the word of living God who proves that this universal truth of yours is nothing but deception?

31 To the jewish people who had believed him, Jesus said, “If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples. 32 Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.

How dare you people deny Christ and yet you use his teachings to justify your evil and sin....
May Lord have mercy on your souls.
Isaiah 44:22 I have swept away your offenses like a cloud, your sins like the morning mist. Return to me, for I have redeemed you."
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OP must be a rich fuck who has everything and an happy life.
Jesus christ may have been a crazy communist jewish, but his ideologies make 100x more sense than your fucking nonsense.
back to what i wrote before, u didnt ask: If u have seen ur sister being raped by a black man, would u love that man? answer me honestly.
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This is the problem with the idealistic notion of Unconditional Love is the fact that certain acts:

Child Rape.
Rape in General.
Violence.
Abuse.
And many numerous crimes are pretty much unlovable acts, along with the people who commit them.

Not that loving is not the right moral choice here, as following love and practicing love one would not do the above as within the ethics and morals that come with being a loving person, those are not the options.

That said, do we love these people? Should we? I also believe love is earned like trust and there are those you will love, and those you will not. And that is fine.

For me, there are certain hideous human acts that deserve capital punishment, and people who need to be removed from the circle of life for what they do to others. I think it's morally right to protect society from such people through capital punishment and that does not mean I am not a loving person. I also value justice and law.
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OP, you are totally right.
Being where you are now, you will understand the most amazing quote ever:
The truth will make you free.
Woow, so much truth in such a simple sentence.
And let me add, that if you try to keep where you are at now, life will become so easy that you won´t believe it.Everything you need in life will be there for you even without asking.

When I discovered what you have discovered, like you, I was blown away by the simplicity of it all, I was like... how could i not have seen it before? Signs are everywhere and still I could not see, I had eyes but I was blind. I read wisdom words but I was not able to understand them, maybe my mind did, but not my heart.
Now you know the truth, you will have to make an effort to keep remembering it because this world reality and your ego will try to pull you the opposite way.
Peace be with you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10376513


Ok,what?
You are justifying his words with the word of living God who proves that this universal truth of yours is nothing but deception?

31 To the jewish people who had believed him, Jesus said, “If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples. 32 Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.

How dare you people deny Christ and yet you use his teachings to justify your evil and sin....
May Lord have mercy on your souls.
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Peace be with you too.
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Quess OP loved the satanic Grammy awards too.
"Traveling through hyperspace ain't like dusting crops, boy! "
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Love child murderers? Love cancer? Love war?
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for the followers of Christ/God that don't get the point of the OP,

think of it this way...

'become ye as a little child' means to erase your judgement machine in your head and see the world through the eyes of a child.

what is the single foundational difference between a little child and an adult?

a child has no judgement system with which to condemn the world.

The OP has found a way that works for him to understand this.

My method is slightly different with the same end.

You can't forgive someone that you haven't condemned...HENCE ALL ARE FORGIVEN AS CHRIST SAYS.

if you judge others as 'evil', you must then judge yourself for your own imperfections of 'evil' and therefore have not accepted the true forgiveness that brings THE LIGHTNESS OF BEING and the FILLING OF YOUR SPIRIT WITH THE LIGHT OF CHRIST.

it is YOU that stands between you and Christ...your own condemnation of others and yourself.

and for those that are seeing this for what it truly is...

immortal beings can't be harmed. No evil has ever occured. Pain is not what you think it is...LET GO AND LET GOD.

be free and you can return...judge others and yourself and you hit a wall...and that wall is your only impediment to your return...

good luck!
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Oh wow, so well put!!! I'm going to print this out and hang it on my mirror. Thank you so much! You can express my thoughts a lot clearer, lol. Sometimes, I read what I write and can't even make sense of it. :)

Much love to you!!!
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I have said the same thing, almost for years after founding/losing a true love. I explained that when you truly love someone, you give unconditionally, all day, every day, WITHOUT EXPECTATION of RETURN !

In other words, it's NOT a 'trading experience' where one keeps score; You GIVE 100% every day, and if NOTHING/ANYTHING comes back, it is sufficient !

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Yep, I have learned the secret of the Universe. The holy wisdom that destroys all fear, doubt, hate, and anger. For years, I have searched for this one truth. I’ve read countless number of books and articles looking for it. I’ve tried out several different religions and ways of being, hoping that I could finally find something to comfort me… to guide me… to help me not feel so angry, lonely, and depressed all the time. I would get little glimpses of that truth here and there, and yet, it always seemed to be just out of my grasp.

So, what is this priceless piece of information that I’ve recently become aware of? Well, you’re going to laugh when I say it. It’s so simple! Probably too simple, lol.

The secret of the Universe is… love.

Yep, it’s love. Love, love, love. How could I have missed this? It’s been right in front of my face this whole time! What has kept me blinded all these years?

Hmm, well, from what I can see, duality has kept me in the dark. Haha, there’s a good New Age word for ya. I looked up the definition of duality, and it says, “the quality or condition of being dual.” I love the dictionary, lol. This is the closest I could find to explain what I’m trying to say: “The concept that the world is ruled by the antagonistic forces of good and evil.”

I went to church and learned about good vs. evil. About god vs. the devil. Right vs. wrong. Truth vs. lies. Responsibility vs. selfishness. Not only did my church teach this dualistic viewpoint, but so did my parents, school teachers, television, and books.

But, what really confused the hell out of me, was that everyone seemed to have their own definition of right vs. wrong and good vs. bad. My parents would take us out to see a movie, but according to my grandparents, that was wrong. My parents would encourage me to speak my mind and be social, but my teachers would tell me to be quiet and punish me for talking too much. My pastor would tell us not to gossip, but the ladies in church would gossip all the time, under the justification of, “I’m not gossiping, I’m just telling you this about, so and so, so you can pray for her.” So, movies were good or bad, depending on whose house I was sleeping at, talking was okay as long as I had permission, and doing wrong is okay, if you have a good reason? Nope, not confusing at all.

You see, the same ones teaching me what I shouldn’t do, were then turning around and actually doing what they told me not to. What is this… this… fucked up way of living??? Do as I say, not as I do?! No wonder I was so screwed up as a kid! And, as an adult.

What I’m getting at, is that duality is an illusion that tricks us into judging. Morality, ethics, goodness, and evil are all subjective. All based on an individual’s perspective of things. But this thinking is so ingrained in our world, that we really don’t have many examples of a different way of perceiving things. Which, is why I have been blind to this amazing truth for so long. We haven’t been able to see the forest for the trees. Too many details have prevented us from seeing the BIG picture!

So, back to love. It really is simple! You just have to open your mind a bit, and try to forget everything you’ve ever learned, lol. Actually, you have to try not to judge.

That’s the golden key to unconditional love: no judgement.

Loving everyone and everything, means just that. You must love EVERY one and EVERY thing, without judging them. My perspective is that if everything comes from the same Source, then when you break everything down to the smallest bits imaginable (or unimaginable), everything is the SAME. Sameness… Oneness… It’s what the New Age people teach over and over. But those words are just words, unless the perceiver actually understands what they mean. So, here’s my understanding, and maybe it will help somebody understand also…

• I love love and I love hate, for they are one and the same.

• I love truth and I love lies, for they are also both the same.

• I love good and I love evil, for it’s hard to believe, but they are two parts of the same whole. The same!

• I love happy, I love sad.

• I love hope, I love fear.

• I love god, I love the devil. SAME!!!

• I love compassion, I love meanness.

• I love beautiful, I love ugly.

• I love humbleness, I love arrogance.

• I love confidence, I love low self-esteem.

• I love forgiveness, I love grudges.

• I love freedom, I love slavery.

• I love greed, and I love charity.

See, this is what I did. I took the things that I hated most in the world, and wrote down that I loved them. And an amazing thing happened. My heart literally felt lighter. Like the clichéd weights had been lifted off. Is this what Jesus talked about? Love your enemies? Love is crazy powerful!

To try and practice unconditional love, but still have hatred towards things in life won’t get you anywhere. It’s impossible to love unconditionally, and still carry dislikes about stuff. You have to love everything. And, when this happens, it’s the most awesome feeling in the world.

Think about this. No one is better than anyone else. We all are capable of doing wonderful things, and horrible things. Everyone has the potential in them for ‘good’ and ‘evil’. Everyone has a dark side as well as a light. And since we all come from the same place, when you hate something about someone else, you are essentially hating yourself.

Another perspective: You hate getting behind a bad driver, but to someone else, YOU are the bad driver that they hate. You hate the obnoxious nerd who rambles on about Star Wars, but you are the obnoxious guy that rambles on about sports, that the nerd hates. You hate the president for lording over everyone and messing up the country, but your kids hate you for lording over them and messing up their lives. All about perspective!

When you hate something… ANYthing… about someone else, you show your subconscious that you hate yourself, also. Because, when you hate something about someone else, your subconscious knows that you have it in you to be the same way and do the same things that you hate, therefore it concludes that you hate that part of yourself.

If you can love EVERYthing unconditionally and unjudgementally, then you feel completely loved in return, and you find the greatest peace you have ever known. And you also become freed from searching for love from others. FREEDOM!!!

I have no idea if any of that will make sense to anyone, but it’s okay. I love the people who don’t get me. Love the ones who think I’m crazy. I love all the confusion and chaos. I love it all. I love. …That is all.
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I LOVE YOU OP ! eyebat

Maybe some more nice stuff for you and all of you :

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ARE YOU INSANE?
Hate is absence of love therefore they don't come from same source.
You are delusional and you are trying to justify your sinful nature,consider Jesus Christ and His sacrifice.
He is truly the only way...i don't judge you,i just want to help you.
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The OP is full of unrealistic new age blather. The OP, who is a sinful human being, has no possibility of achieving unconditional love.
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I think you both need to give your heads a shake!

New age is a new age for a reason, and Jesus was just Jesus, not a Christ!
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The above should read ... "FINDING a true love ...". Wrong number interruption; didn't proof read my post.

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Love is dual too: subject-object.
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Unconditional love is not dual.
hf
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You can say that again.
Love is worthwhile, peace is priceless.
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Well done on taking this journey. You've found the secret to changing the world for the better, for Love is the energy that, in its highest state is capable of transmuting the present conditions on Earth.

It can be channeled instantly to any point on the planet ,just by willing it. Study dynamic prayer, its a potent practice.
scottish, british, european but first of all Human. Even this is not true. I am Spirit appearing to be solid, just like all life everywhere
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excellent thread.



you forgot one other 'dualism' that i believe is highly relevant, outside/inside manifested by new agers and christians alike as seeing themselves as not part of this world, as prisoners in their bodies, when that is the farthest thing from the truth. true whole-ism recognizes that nature and the material world ARE spiritual. there is no separatness, the world is NOT evil, what is 'evil' is thinking we are not of this world....basically back to your op, dualism is EVIL.
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Someone on this forum posted about Dr. Hew Len and the Hawaiian Ho'oponponon thing. I read Joe Vitale's book on the Dr. and the thought process and I'm no new age freak, hippy, self help pop psychology nerd or anything like the above, but I have to admit the whole concept os amazing.

Kind of like emotional dynamite. I'm even investigating more about it. I suffer for mostly situational depression from quite a few losses and crap happening in a short period of time and I REFUSE to use the poisonous meds doctors are obsessed with getting you hooked on.

Believe me this is not off topic. And I'll sound flakey if I attempt to describe the concept. It really is surprising me though. ONE BIG THING is taking personal responsibility for everything you do and in your life. What if every human alive honestly did that. Wars-no, crime-not much, crooked lawyers-none.

The martial arts I did for 12 years, Karate and tai-Chi with some Aikido all talked about the same concept of "loving your enemy" to conquer him.

I don't know. It's a cool thing and I'm sticking to it to see where it goes. Can't possibly be worse than the 4 or 5 psychotropic drugs some people I know are on daily.
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You are doing really well!

My journey started long ago. The two questions I had always wanted answered was "who are we?" and "why are we here?". It took a long time with no answers to realise the starting question should have been "why are humans divided at every conceivable level?".

Once you understand our control you realise there is no better way of achieving it than we currently have. It is almost flawless in its design.

This leads to "why?" which opens a huge rabbit hole that leads you to your own answers to the first two questions.

I've been down the rabbit hole and I also concluded that unconditional love is the answer.

I am not new-age and new-age is not a box you can place this inside of. The answer encompasses all boxes.
 Quoting: WeAreOne


Everything you say connects with myself!!!

And everything Captain Spalding said, also. I've been on so many depression meds and seen plenty of psychologists throughout my life, to try to overcome my crippling depression, but nothing I ever tried seemed to last.

And, after years of questioning, "WHY?" I, too, have come to the conclusion that unconditional love is the answer.

I can't tell others that they have to believe this way, because they are experiencing what they need to experience. I'm just sharing what I've found to be the ultimate truth, after all these years of seeking. Hoping that someone will relate, or will find it helpful. This truly is a remarkable world!!!
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Glad you're happy, OP, but in my experience, love is nice, but its not a big enough blanket to cover the bed of life. Loving your neighbor and turning the other cheek is not always a healthy and noble course of action.
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you love to smell your own farts
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if u had seen ur sister being raped in front of u and while trying to save her, u get knifed by a black guy would u love the Rapist? ur hippie theory doesnt make sense, u can forgive ofenses against u, but u will not love the ofender. Thats what the bibel teaches.
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Every stage of your life is a test. It is far easier to simply blame others than to discover within yourself what the test is.

It is not up to me to judge others and judging implies I am better than them. I am better than no-one on this earth because underneath all race, class, religion etc we are ALL made of the same elements, we are all one.

I have been through much pain in my life and it wasn't until I looked into each event and asked what can I learn from it did I see who I really am. It is only when you acknowledge the pain and search for the lesson do you overcome the pain.

Blame simply side-steps the lesson to be learnt.
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Wholeheartedly agree with the bolded. Years after some very negative events in my life, I am able to look back and acknowledge ways in which those negative events helped me grow and raised my consciousness.





GLP