Would the BIBLE Survive 2012 and beyond

When it comes to the bible(s)[plural], It is not short of follower's and believers. This we can all agree on.

Now bare with me on this- [cringing] Lets take some versus that I will choose myself. Here they are:

John 1:14 - "And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth."

John 8:24 - "I said therefore to you, that you shall die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am He, you shall die in your sins."

John 10:30-33 - "I and the Father are one."

Couple more:

Matt. 14:33 - "And those who were in the boat worshiped Him, saying, "You are certainly God’s Son!"

Joel 2:32 - "And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in Mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call."

Now the bible is written by primitive men. Rather or not by the grace of sky bully..oops sorry guys..i mean God is up for debate. But not here, Not this time. What i would like to point out is this-

Lets take "John Sand Cheeks", "Matt Desert Dweller", and "Joel Doesn't Bath" [first,middle, and last names] And we will say John, Matt, and Joel are in their 30's and seemingly "normal" for the country they live in [country isn't important right now] and the year is 2012.

If they started saying the things that the orignal john, matt and joel did back in PRIMITIVE days.. WOULD YOU OR WOULDN'T YOU BELIEVE THEM?
Before YOU answer please consider the times we live in today. And please account for the reports of "rare" occurences that get reported and simply LAUGHED AT.
~UFO sighting
~UFO abduction reports and stories
~ghosts, spirits, and demon sightings and hauntings
~Bigfoot sightings
~Sumarian tablet findings
~many many others that I don't have time to list.
-----you get MY point------

Would the bible stand up against the PEOPLE of 2012 and beyond? Would you believe these men with the same bible stories of today? My opinion is NO.

Thanks in advance !

The only credibility mainstream religion has is its timeline. People believe it more because they can see that people have been following it for quite some time.
Likewise we look to our elders for knowledge and wisdom. I find it worrying that people believe a religion because they’re elders do. Anyone over 50 would remember a time where people were socially forced into believing religion; so isn’t that a big lot of bias?

More than likely you would not listen to those people if you lived in their time and the only credibility they had was their own word rather than a social influence.
It would be no different to following a small religion such as westboro today, not many people will fall for it because there is no social push to do so.

I doubt the bible will be gone as early as this year but we can already see that its strength is diminishing. It will be something that dwindles over a few decades in my opinion.
Unless there is a scientific breakthrough that comes, this is very possible.
But it is obvious to see that religion does not have much place in modern society.
Spirituality is different but I don’t see many people believing in something without any evidence for too much longer.
On the other hand, if living conditions continue to drop and education becomes unattainable we may see numbers grow. Because it is well documented that ignorance and bad emotions breed religion; but it also works in reverse.

Anyway, hope that helps somewhat.
Time will tell.

Also,
I caught your soul.
Do you want it back or can I sell it on eBay?

Hello OP,

I suppose the question comes down to discernment and truth.

Both of which are often viewed as objective by the first person and subjective by the second and third and so-on.

So we each have "discernment" and "truth".

We will be able to find those who believe John Sand Cheeks, Matt Desert Dweller, and Joel Doesn't Bath and we will be able to find those who disagree with John, Matt, and Joel.

Do you suppose the words of these fella's; John, Matt, and Joel - will be around in 4012? What would cause them to survive, and perhaps even thrive, for generations?

If they are words of wisdom and power and profundity, I suspect they will have some memberance... Even 2000 years later.

But I am the first person here and there will be those who will likely share a difference "discernment" and "truth". Those who will say (from the beginning) John, Matt and Joel are loons and those which subscribe to their words and thinking are also loons...

lol!!!

peace,

When it comes to the bible(s)[plural], It is not short of follower's and believers. This we can all agree on.

Now bare with me on this- [cringing] Lets take some versus that I will choose myself. Here they are:

John 1:14 - "And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth."

John 8:24 - "I said therefore to you, that you shall die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am He, you shall die in your sins."

John 10:30-33 - "I and the Father are one."

Couple more:

Matt. 14:33 - "And those who were in the boat worshiped Him, saying, "You are certainly God’s Son!"

Joel 2:32 - "And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in Mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call."

Now the bible is written by primitive men. Rather or not by the grace of sky bully..oops sorry guys..i mean God is up for debate. But not here, Not this time. What i would like to point out is this-

Lets take "John Sand Cheeks", "Matt Desert Dweller", and "Joel Doesn't Bath" [first,middle, and last names] And we will say John, Matt, and Joel are in their 30's and seemingly "normal" for the country they live in [country isn't important right now] and the year is 2012.

If they started saying the things that the orignal john, matt and joel did back in PRIMITIVE days.. WOULD YOU OR WOULDN'T YOU BELIEVE THEM?
Before YOU answer please consider the times we live in today. And please account for the reports of "rare" occurences that get reported and simply LAUGHED AT.
~UFO sighting
~UFO abduction reports and stories
~ghosts, spirits, and demon sightings and hauntings
~Bigfoot sightings
~Sumarian tablet findings
~many many others that I don't have time to list.
-----you get MY point------

Would the bible stand up against the PEOPLE of 2012 and beyond? Would you believe these men with the same bible stories of today? My opinion is NO.

Thanks in advance !

Why would you think the Bible was written by primitive men? Joel was most likely a priest, which would entail that he be literate. John was a fisherman, but he would have been literate in Hebrew, the language of the Bible, Aramaic, the common language of the people, and because it was the lingua franca of the eastern Mediterranean, Greek. Matthew, as a Roman official, would have been literate in all of the above, plus Latin. Judah was not a backwater, it was crossed by the important east-west trade routes and was a magnet for pilgrims from all over the Roman and Parthian empires. Jerusalem was considered one of the premier cities of the Empire and the Temple was a marvel of engineering. I would say that most people living today are far more primitive than those living at the height of the Roman Empire.
By the way, I would believe them because they make far more sense than the bilge that passes for philosophy today.

Very nice reply! I agree it is dimishing~ but things can change I do feel people are starting to question more, experiment with other beliefs and thought systems..etc. One thing i won't miss if it does diminish is the fear and spread of fear !

I'm afraid if you caught my soul then you are the rightful owner at this point..it seems to have a mind of its own and doesn't like to stay in one place~ sell it on ebay so my soul can explore the ends and out of the world around it

How about you daniel, test their fruit first then let me know and then we will go from there!

I think we got this way because of the norms of society.
Seems that every people or society ends up failing because they forget their true purpose (love) and focus on materialism....

I think back then God was more present in people's lives because they didn't have as many distractions like technology or satanic government...

my opinion at least.

I think the Bible Survives until all the prophesy's are actually fulfilled, pretty much you are only waiting on:

A Sinful Law that controls People from Buying and selling and leads to the Mark of The Beast
(this may seem unrealistic but we know that The Catholic Church controls the Worlds Banks Now)
Multiple Plagues coming for the Modern Day Egyptians and Modern day Babylonians(M.D.E = Atheists M.D.B = Catholic-Church)
A time of Great Peace quickly followed by Sudden Destruction and The Return of Christ to Collect His Living Sealed and His Faithful Sleeping Dead

There's More after that, but Hey you won't need a Bible For what your experiencing then.

Sometimes it's easy.

Follow the money.





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'primitive' or not, there is still God.


You can't look for answers in man-made things, such as the bible, the bible HAS truth...a lot of it. But it is the work of man.

Look at us now...are we really more sophisticated? Due to our technology, we may look smart or 'rational' but think about it...look how selfish or greedy most people are. Unaware of the truth inside their hearts. Looking for happiness in materialism.

We're killing ourselves, and destroying the world.

To me, the people of old knew a lot more than we did. Truth is subjective.

Well the god part is debatable

I agree, man made things probably won’t give you an answer unless it’s a calculator in a maths test.
The bible doesn’t really have much truth. Yes in the fact that it teaches right and wrong, but I can get that from a movie or the guy down the street. It doesn’t give it credibility.

The people of old would have done exactly the same thing if they had the technology of today.
It is true that with technology we lose the ability to do things for our self and yes I believe this does make us less evolved.

Modern man seems to have gone drunk with power.

Religion and spirituality is materialism tho, its materialising you want for answers into a neat little package that will keep you happy at night.

'primitive' or not, there is still God.


You can't look for answers in man-made things, such as the bible, the bible HAS truth...a lot of it. But it is the work of man.

Look at us now...are we really more sophisticated? Due to our technology, we may look smart or 'rational' but think about it...look how selfish or greedy most people are. Unaware of the truth inside their hearts. Looking for happiness in materialism.

We're killing ourselves, and destroying the world.

To me, the people of old knew a lot more than we did. Truth is subjective.

Yes!! spread that fear love, spread it proud!!