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How Cats Control You with a Parasite - Toxoplasmosis and Its Effects

 
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Still blaming cats!?
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First, if these posts upset you then you are already infected with toxoplasmosis and probably have no hope of recovery. You are already controlled by "them".
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Damn MO, that is really interesting, I had never heard of this before. Fucking sweet example of mutualism in co-evolution though between the cat and parasite.

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Ever wondered why we have to pay taxes for dogs, but no for cats (in Germany ) and why cats are allowed to enter every property and you can't do anything against it, but dogs arent't? Why there is no legal action possible against cat owners who let their cats do and kill whatever they want, even protected species?
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I guess some lawmakers have a toxoplasmosis infection!!!

I'm seriously, I was fighting against the feelings of guilt and anxiety while writing this thread.



And it's not only the cats transmiting the disease!!!!

 Quoting: Mindlouka



No, but it only reproduces in felines... thus they perpetuate it.

The feral or domesticated feline is this organism's preferred host, since it can only reproduce in cats.
 Quoting: [link to www.wisegeek.com]

 Quoting: Mister Obvious




And it goes back to my question...

Which one is the slave? The cat or the parasite?

We're slaves to the cats, there's not even any debate over that...

You said yourself you can't stop adopting them... which I think is great, BTW, all animals deserve a loving home.
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We have two cats, and one has an issue with pooping in his litter box. Normally he'll just go on the floor right outside of it, but if we're away for even 24 hours, he'll go on our area rugs. I don't know how many times we've had to steam vac the place. He's one shit pile away from the SPCA, but I'm regularly picking up cat shit with toilet paper and flushing it away. I've had a sore throat and swollen lymph nodes under my jaw and in my neck for a month now. When my illness first started, right after Christmas, I swore it was the flu. Body aches, headaches, horrible sore throat... when I was reading online about my symptoms, TOXOPLASMOSIS jumped out at me. Your suggestion is an interesting one, because my husband wants the cat gone yesterday, and I keep trying to save his life by trying to cure him. You're saying this parasite is making me want to keep him. ??? Woah! Stranger things have happened. Don't get a cat! I am biased at the moment of course, but they're a PITA.
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Your suggestion is an interesting one, because my husband wants the cat gone yesterday, and I keep trying to save his life by trying to cure him. You're saying this parasite is making me want to keep him. ??? Woah! Stranger things have happened. Don't get a cat! I am biased at the moment of course, but they're a PITA.
 Quoting: Gratia Plena



Thanks for your advice.

Yep, if you've been having to deal with his feces that much, then chances are you've got toxoplasmosis.

As we've seen, after onset, it's really a non issue... and even during the symptoms, if you don't know about this, then you just think you're going thru a long stint of simply feeling shitty... not really sick, but definitely not well.

You'll be fine...

Get plenty of vitamin C and sunshine.

And yes, you are definitely being mind controlled by the toxo, but aren't most of us?

Godspeed!
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Sounds like op doesn't know how to wash their hands. Moran science!
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Wouldn't toxy brain with bunch of cats be safer from avian ,pig,rat , merck flu?
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Sounds like op doesn't know how to wash their hands. Moran science!
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If you had read the information compiled in the thread, you would know about all of the possible methods of contraction.

Thus, you are a failure.
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Wouldn't toxy brain with bunch of cats be safer from avian ,pig,rat , merck flu?
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Hmm...

Not necessarily, no.

As in the OP, the last quote... it's basically the parasite's mission for you (the host) to die, and then be eaten by the cat.

So...

The cat might be better off in these situations, but not necessarily the human... ;)
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"Transmission may occur through:

Ingestion of raw or partly cooked meat, especially pork, lamb, or venison containing Toxoplasma cysts. Infection prevalence in countries where undercooked meat is traditionally eaten has been related to this transmission method. Tissue cysts may also be ingested during hand-to-mouth contact after handling undercooked meat, or from using knives, utensils, or cutting boards contaminated by raw meat.[16]
Ingestion of contaminated cat feces. This can occur through hand-to-mouth contact following gardening, cleaning a cat's litter box, contact with children's sandpits, or touching a leach, and can survive in the environment for over a year.[17]

Cats excrete the pathogen in their feces for a number of weeks after contracting the disease, generally by eating an infected rodent. Even then, cat faeces are not generally contagious for the first day or two after excretion, after which the cyst 'ripens' and becomes potentially pathogenic.[18]"
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Mindlouka...


I get that you're being mind controlled by the cat parasite now, but...


Considering all the highly informative quotes in my OP that you clearly haven't read...


Why do you keep posting that already perfectly well known and completely beside the point information?
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If you want to pursue these ideas about cells and bacteria and parasites preceding and controlling the host organism, the book

The Lives of a Cell

by Lewis Thomas

is excellent reading.

And yeah, the first time I heard of this thing with the cat parasite, I did for sure think of the Ancient Egyptians and their cat-worshipping practices.

I definitely know people who worship cats although they wouldn't put it that way, and I may be one of them.
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If you want to pursue these ideas about cells and bacteria and parasites preceding and controlling the host organism, the book

The Lives of a Cell

by Lewis Thomas

is excellent reading.

And yeah, the first time I heard of this thing with the cat parasite, I did for sure think of the Ancient Egyptians and their cat-worshipping practices.

I definitely know people who worship cats although they wouldn't put it that way, and I may be one of them.
 Quoting: Vision Thing




Thank you so much!!! I will check this book out. I always love it when GLPers recommend me books, they are always great recommendations.

Thanks for your post.
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A pertient question:
What the fuck is REALLY up with cats?? Did the Egyptians (worshipped cats) know something we clearly haven't fully caught onto yet? Is anyone else freaked out and slightly disturbed right now?

Thoughts?

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9204325

I think it's because the cat is the only animal that never surrendered to man.
Some people feel it, hence the admiration. Btw I can't see any blame in cats
in any of this.hmm
The cat who can use keyboard.
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Mister O..dont freak out..this is very rare..and to be honest..Ive NEVER seen any proof of this!..

Ive had cats my entire life..and honestly..the only thing they do is ask you to feed them on demand, scoop their poop out of their lil sand boxes..make fresh water in their bowls..and have unlimited access to your bed..

I really dont think thats too much to ask ( looks around nervously)...do you?

Also..if they throw up a hair ball...you must never display disgust!
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Mindlouka...


I get that you're being mind controlled by the cat parasite now, but...


Considering all the highly informative quotes in my OP that you clearly haven't read...


Why do you keep posting that already perfectly well known and completely beside the point information?
 Quoting: Mister Obvious


Yes I had read and I'm posting that because you are inducing fear on people. You can get that through other animals!!!

I will have many cats I want,many dogs I want, if I'm going to think on what might kill me, I will live in FEAR,I will not live my life to its full, and that I DON'T WANT. Have cats for years and I'm toxo free.
And even if I had it, I wouldn't give a fuck about it. I'm happy,it's all that matters :-D
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after reading all three pages of this thread i find this to be good info if you own cats.

i used to hate cats and then had a little girlfriend who had a pet setting service and there were a few strays around the neighborhood and i ended up with jimmy, one cat, for 17 years and when jimmy died i lost my mind.

now i have six and if you only knew what my day consists of, sometimes i think i need to see a fucking shrink.

maybe because i never married and obviously never had any kids, none that i know of at least. LOL

and by the way i have never experienced any of these problems of which you speak of OP.

hope that it continues this way.
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My father was living alone so my sister got him a cat from the humane society. His name was mercury and he quickly became the boss. Well to make a long story short, he acquired another cat as did I and my mother and also one of my uncles.
We all had canines throughout are lives and never even considered cats till Mercury arrived.
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hey! r u possibly hinting, at the et originis of catppl?
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funny but i don't think they choose their dear slaves this way lolsign
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Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!
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I have 4 cats, and suffered from a strange ailment for over a year.

Toxoplasmosis was one of the things they tested me for.
Tests came back negative. Turns out it was caused by one of the new fancy antibiotics I had taken.

So before you start blaming kitty, get tested.
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First, if these posts upset you then you are already infected with toxoplasmosis and probably have no hope of recovery. You are already controlled by "them".
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rofl
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Home testing involves setting up a video camera up at it's feeding dish. If you record yourself sleep feeding the cat in the middle of the night, you know you've been infected.
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bump for later.
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Thread: Toxoplasma - Parasites infected one third of world population and controls them!
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Hei CAT HATERS, you dont know anything about god's will.
Everything in nature has a purpose.
God's put here the cats for help us. And the cat is an amazing skilled criature.

A cat is a masrterpiece of art designed by god's best archictets.

Take a Lesson:

Thread: THIS IS FOR CAT HATERS -TAKE A LESSON
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Another thing that it does in rodents is to make them fearless... around cats.

damned
 Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan




EXACTLY. You get it man.

It makes them fearless SO THAT THEY WILL BE EATEN AND THE PARASITE WILL BE CONSUMED AGAIN BY THE CAT (so it can reproduce)!!!

This is verified FACT.

So what the fuck?!?!

What is the purpose behind all this? In my opinion, there's got to be a reason.

Folks, we have blown this whole cat thing WIDE THE FUCK OPEN.
 Quoting: Mister Obvious


:wordcat:

Zombie parasites are freaky...

There's a wasp that inserts it's larvae into spiders... the spiders then stop building webs & build a cocoon for the *future* adult wasp... which will kill the spider after.

Tons of em like that here: [link to discovermagazine.com]

zombies
 Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan


And don't forget that wasp that puts its stinger into a roach's brain and controls it like a wii-remote. Steers it, parks it under the overpass and lays eggs inside of it that hatch and eat the roach from the inside out.





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