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IRANIAN VIDEO A FRAUD, JUST LOOK AT THE LANDINGS!!!

 
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Same footage minus the blue 'Polecat' banner at the bottom.

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I think i pushed the unpin button by mistake,, If someone could fix that for me,,


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The first video needs to be verified as I am not sure there would have been such an efficient effort as to have cameras waiting on the ground to receive the drone as is the case in the first vid.

For this reason I think the first video might be a fake that has been doctored using the US footage in the second video and until further in-depth analysis can be obtained as to the authenticity of the first vid, I suggest we all hold our horses and await the results.
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Ok so....it's the real vid posted on the irna site...clips from it anyway...however...it's just speeded up to mask the chick commentators voice...it's also got big chunks gone that I can hear the women say "Carter"...then in the original?....they show Jimmy Carter...so I'm going with hoax as far as the Iranians trying to palm this off as a video of them landing anything...maybe some youtube retard fuckin with people...or maybe some youtube propgandist.....

Watch the beginning of both vids side by side...you'll see what I mean.....see if I can find the original on yt and load them both up here...

Orig on the front page..

[link to film.irna.ir]

Hoaxed youtube...

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If you fine tooth both videos, you can see much of the polecat video and its camera angles equal to what is in the Iranian video provided.

That would include parts of the vehicle pulling up right after the blue building, the flags, at about 50% on both videos you see the drone take off, then a view looking downwards of the drone with the background clouded out slightly on Iranian video that is the exact angle/view/video in the Polecat....

Iran's video is an edit, dub, chop shop video of Polecats.
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One translator saying "Impunity Kandahar and divided doom"...another saying "Appeal "Eagle claw" Beast of Kandahar America part II"....lol....freakin silly backwards written scribbles...lol!
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SHR that is what they have been claiming along their government lines and that video came from a state sponsored news agency, you found the video quickly. They said they landed the plane under total control of it

[link to www.presstv.ir]
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Understood...I did hear them alleging that....however I'm not so sure that this particular YT vid is not some cut up put together by an un-official fucktard who's claiming this is a video of them actually doing that landing, which it what it appears to me.
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Ok so....it's the real vid posted on the irna site...clips from it anyway...however...it's just speeded up to mask the chick commentators voice...it's also got big chunks gone that I can hear the women say "Carter"...then in the original?....they show Jimmy Carter...so I'm going with hoax as far as the Iranians trying to palm this off as a video of them landing anything...maybe some youtube retard fuckin with people...or maybe some youtube propgandist.....

Watch the beginning of both vids side by side...you'll see what I mean.....see if I can find the original on yt and load them both up here...

Orig on the front page..

[link to film.irna.ir]

Hoaxed youtube...

[link to www.youtube.com]
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Totally agree with you on the Iranians pulling this off as a hoax, the same landing of the polecat video was edited by the iranians and inserted into their prop piece. Bucs (Glp poster) showed the two you tube video links side by side.
[link to img7.imageshack.us]

What or how much of anything do you think they have in their possession?
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One translator saying "Impunity Kandahar and divided doom"...another saying "Appeal "Eagle claw" Beast of Kandahar America part II"....lol....freakin silly backwards written scribbles...lol!
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SHR that is what they have been claiming along their government lines and that video came from a state sponsored news agency, you found the video quickly. They said they landed the plane under total control of it

[link to www.presstv.ir]
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Understood...I did hear them alleging that....however I'm not so sure that this particular YT vid is not some cut up put together by an un-official fucktard who's claiming this is a video of them actually doing that landing, which it what it appears to me.
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I do not believe they landed anything, if anything they may have recovered something. What is your opinion?
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The Iranian MSM probably got the footage from Google/Wiki just to show their viewers what it looks like...they would not have any footage from the military. Move along, nothing here folks.

P.S. Do you believe everything you see on CNN or FOX??? (and how it is translated into Farsi).
Good catch OP, but we're all being taken for a ride, just figure out who is driving.

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Thanks to Doomalicious and Bucs for the video help, much appreciated.
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That drone thing in the pictures "of the captured drone"
looks like some crap som kids made in Papier-mâché
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to media.farsnews.net]

another thing it looks like is the robot man in
the day the earth stood still
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do your real drones really look like that? It doesn't have that shiny look in the videos.
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Thanks to Doomalicious and Bucs for the video help, much appreciated.
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You're very welcome hf
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Ok so....it's the real vid posted on the irna site...clips from it anyway...however...it's just speeded up to mask the chick commentators voice...it's also got big chunks gone that I can hear the women say "Carter"...then in the original?....they show Jimmy Carter...so I'm going with hoax as far as the Iranians trying to palm this off as a video of them landing anything...maybe some youtube retard fuckin with people...or maybe some youtube propgandist.....

Watch the beginning of both vids side by side...you'll see what I mean.....see if I can find the original on yt and load them both up here...

Orig on the front page..

[link to film.irna.ir]

Hoaxed youtube...

[link to www.youtube.com]
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Totally agree with you on the Iranians pulling this off as a hoax, the same landing of the polecat video was edited by the iranians and inserted into their prop piece. Bucs (Glp poster) showed the two you tube video links side by side.
[link to img7.imageshack.us]

What or how much of anything do you think they have in their possession?
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Whatever is going on in the real official full video from Iran I do not really know...it looks more like they are using some stock footage, talking about Carter, and also showing off the supposedly captured drone.

For all I know the Narrator is just blabbing about drones in general and showing the pole cat clips as stock footage of drones in general for a news piece.

No doubt whomever made the youtube video took a few clips from the original IRNA video...sped them up and pieced them together...

So I doubt the headline is for real and from IRNA...because whoever sped the clip up is trying to hide something...

I would bet if anyone around actually spoke Persian?...you'd find that the narrator was blabbing through more gen info than anything else and no mention of this being actual video of them landing a drone in Iran.

So the Video is real clips from an official Iranian news piece, but the landing a US drone in Iran is something made up and faked by using real clips sped up and a fake made up headline.

Finding that all hard to explain...but I think people will see what I mean after seeing both videos side by side...the IRNA one vs the YT one...excluding the Lockheed pole cat video..

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Ok so....it's the real vid posted on the irna site...clips from it anyway...however...it's just speeded up to mask the chick commentators voice...it's also got big chunks gone that I can hear the women say "Carter"...then in the original?....they show Jimmy Carter...so I'm going with hoax as far as the Iranians trying to palm this off as a video of them landing anything...maybe some youtube retard fuckin with people...or maybe some youtube propgandist.....

Watch the beginning of both vids side by side...you'll see what I mean.....see if I can find the original on yt and load them both up here...

Orig on the front page..

[link to film.irna.ir]

Hoaxed youtube...

[link to www.youtube.com]
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Misunderstood me, I totally agree with your assessment of the video coverage, I watched them both side by side. My question is do you think the drone just crashed and they recover wrecked parts of it? I do not think they even shot it down, I was just asking your opinion on what you thought.
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Ok so....it's the real vid posted on the irna site...clips from it anyway...however...it's just speeded up to mask the chick commentators voice...it's also got big chunks gone that I can hear the women say "Carter"...then in the original?....they show Jimmy Carter...so I'm going with hoax as far as the Iranians trying to palm this off as a video of them landing anything...maybe some youtube retard fuckin with people...or maybe some youtube propgandist.....

Watch the beginning of both vids side by side...you'll see what I mean.....see if I can find the original on yt and load them both up here...

Orig on the front page..

[link to film.irna.ir]

Hoaxed youtube...

[link to www.youtube.com]
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Totally agree with you on the Iranians pulling this off as a hoax, the same landing of the polecat video was edited by the iranians and inserted into their prop piece. Bucs (Glp poster) showed the two you tube video links side by side.
[link to img7.imageshack.us]

What or how much of anything do you think they have in their possession?
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Whatever is going on in the real official full video from Iran I do not really know...it looks more like they are using some stock footage, talking about Carter, and also showing off the supposedly captured drone.

For all I know the Narrator is just blabbing about drones in general and showing the pole cat clips as stock footage of drones in general for a news piece.

No doubt whomever made the youtube video took a few clips from the original IRNA video...sped them up and pieced them together...

So I doubt the headline is for real and from IRNA...because whoever sped the clip up is trying to hide something...

I would bet if anyone around actually spoke Persian?...you'd find that the narrator was blabbing through more gen info than anything else and no mention of this being actual video of them landing a drone in Iran.

So the Video is real clips from an official Iranian news piece, but the landing a US drone in Iran is something made up and faked by using real clips sped up and a fake made up headline.

Finding that all hard to explain...but I think people will see what I mean after seeing both videos side by side...the IRNA one vs the YT one...excluding the Lockheed pole cat video..
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You answered my question while I was writing. Disregard the other one, thanks.
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Even if the video headline stating that "Iran Lands US drone" as if that was a video of that happening ends up being a hoaxtard off youtube...that was still a real good piece of work putting the stock lockheed footage to it as the source.

Iran's played photoshop and BS video before...

Always be on the media no matter who's it is and never let em get away with putting shit over on us...

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Even if the video headline stating that "Iran Lands US drone" as if that was a video of that happening ends up being a hoaxtard off youtube...that was still a real good piece of work putting the stock lockheed footage to it as the source.

Iran's played photoshop and BS video before...

Always be on the media no matter who's it is and never let em get away with putting shit over on us...

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The news is nothing more than propaganda aimed a manipulating and controlling those whom it is aimed at! Information is a WEAPON!
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The news is nothing more than propaganda aimed a manipulating and controlling those whom it is aimed at! Information is a WEAPON!
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I do agree.
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well whatever its intended purpose, OP, it was a great catch and worthy of investigation (glp style!)
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well whatever its intended purpose, OP, it was a great catch and worthy of investigation (glp style!)
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Thank you! Just something that looked fishy to me and put it up for discussion.
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Ok so....it's the real vid posted on the irna site...clips from it anyway...however...it's just speeded up to mask the chick commentators voice...it's also got big chunks gone that I can hear the women say "Carter"...then in the original?....they show Jimmy Carter...so I'm going with hoax as far as the Iranians trying to palm this off as a video of them landing anything...maybe some youtube retard fuckin with people...or maybe some youtube propgandist.....

Watch the beginning of both vids side by side...you'll see what I mean.....see if I can find the original on yt and load them both up here...

Orig on the front page..

[link to film.irna.ir]

Hoaxed youtube...

[link to www.youtube.com]
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Misunderstood me, I totally agree with your assessment of the video coverage, I watched them both side by side. My question is do you think the drone just crashed and they recover wrecked parts of it? I do not think they even shot it down, I was just asking your opinion on what you thought.
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I've written a few replies on this and they're around somewhere...buried I'm sure as GLP moves so fast...my opinion?....

This whole drone got lost thing REEKS...

First of all this type of equipment has a load of redundancy, encrypted signal...it's very secure..albeit a single engine aircraft. So the odds of Mechanical issues causing them to just lose command and control of it is extremely low...

If it did have mechanical problems?...there is more than one self destruct...one is going to fry it's guts and it'll crash more or less a toaster oven with wings...nothing worth much left...if it would even land which is also against extreme odds because another self destruct would physically blow it up...they have both...and probably more that isn't as easily known.

Even if it could land intact which the odds get higher and higher of against?...the Iranians far more likely than not wouldn't even know it did, wouldn't even know it was in their air space...the radar cross signature is virtually zip....likely smaller than a bird bout the size of crow..or even less...we have very good stealth as far as radar goes and we've been flying these over Iran for years...they've never got a lock on one.

So for me...the odds are too high against this happening the way they claim. No way would our guys let the thing land in enemy territory even near intact under normal operating circumstances. The Iranians don't have the ability to commandeer one of these...if anyone does..well that's a brand new ability that we didn't know about until just now...and it's not something Iran is up to speed for...

So not many solutions left...
Sabotage and or treason by our operator(s) or people with access.
The Russians or Chinese are behind taking it and used Iran to facilitate it.
It was a backdoor clandestine "deal" and this was the delivery method....also treason.

No way did Iran do jack fuckin squat to this aircraft that enabled it to land even near intact.

Last and least likely possible is that somehow Iran found out we lost a drone and they made a faker mockup to put on a show...but our people have confirmed that what they have put up is indeed a real drone...there's not a good enough reason for us and them to produce a faked situation of this level...if we wanted to fake something up we'd make it worth it...this ain't a FF if that's what people are thinking...because if were going to do that?...it'd be a far more provocative one and it'd be on like Donkey Kong already....

..this may actually be worse as far as dark deals go...and we may never know what really happened here...but I'm convinced what we are being told is utter bullshit.
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sorry for my ignorance but um why does both videos having the same thing in them prove this is fake?
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Iranian video has the same exact blue building with the same exact white tower as the skunkworks (American) video does. If you look at it, the iranians pulled the landing clip from the skunkworks video and edited into their video.
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I get it, thats funny GOOD EYE!!!!
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What's fake about it? It's not fraud.

They used stock footage. Hell, even Fox did it, showing protestors from one place in the world, while speaking about a different place.

If the television reporter was saying that this was the captured drone, that Iran was flying it for the camera, etc., then sure -- it's a lie. But that's not the case here at all.
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What's fake about it? It's not fraud.

They used stock footage. Hell, even Fox did it, showing protestors from one place in the world, while speaking about a different place.

If the television reporter was saying that this was the captured drone, that Iran was flying it for the camera, etc., then sure -- it's a lie. But that's not the case here at all.
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"They used stock footage."

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[link to news.yahoo.com]

This is quite confusing. Seems every story about the landing video comes up as invalid links. This yahoo article shows a video from state-run Iranian TV of the drone in a warehouse or whatever. I cannot find a working link reporting Iran showed a landing video. Not youtube. I'm pretty sure I remember it being shown, the landing video, and the MSM running with it.
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Good job Tango
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This is the same exact landing strip used in both videos of both the Iranians and skunkworks on the drone landing. Blue building with white looking tower is in same spot with same red markers on landing strip also in both videos. Same landing video, Iran just edited it and clipped it into their media.
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And some idiot named their video title wrong, claiming it was a "Video of the US RQ-170 Sentinel Spy Plane Landing in Iran".
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This is the same exact landing strip used in both videos of both the Iranians and skunkworks on the drone landing. Blue building with white looking tower is in same spot with same red markers on landing strip also in both videos. Same landing video, Iran just edited it and clipped it into their media.
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And some idiot named their video title wrong, claiming it was a "Video of the US RQ-170 Sentinel Spy Plane Landing in Iran".
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Nah....they did it on purpose...probably some youtube fucktard hoaxer...but it didn't land...or fly here....
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