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Declawing Cats Pisses Me Off!

 
peacerebelgirl  (OP)

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declawing a cat is like removing the fingers at the first knuckle.
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Maybe she can get her kitten to wear those cute little claw covers instead?
 Quoting: INK1



she is more concerned about her furniture than the well-being of the kitten. humans do the dumbest things. how would they feel if someone pulled out their finger and toe nails?
 Quoting: peacerebelgirl


They don't pull them out. They chop them off at the first knuckle. Think of having your fingers chopped off at the knuckle above your nail. Explain that to her and she may change her mind, especially if she thinks it's just the removal of the nail. There is a procedure when they cut the tendon so that the can't can't extend the claw, but you have to continue to trim their nails otherwise they will get ingrown. if you are going to do that, you may as well just trim them weekly, which will keep down most of the damage. As long as you get them used to it as a kitten and be careful not to cut the quick, it only takes 30 seconds to do.
 Quoting: Tawandaaaa


thank you both for adding your voices of sanity.

and you're right Tawandaaaa - i did more research and learned that it is much more than pulling them out. it's even worse than i knew. how tragic for cats, especially being done by those who supposedly care about their welfare. maybe there are some who are ignorant about the facts, which is why speaking out and sharing what we know is the only way these inane practices have a chance of being stopped.
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a family member is about to get her kitten declawed (they wanted to do it months ago but the cat has to be at least six months) even though i told her it was not a good thing to do. she insists on talking to me about it anyway, as if i approve.

i love animals (i'm an abolitionist vegan) and have had pets in the past. i'm not sure if i could 'own' more animals because i'm not sure it's right. pets are more for the enjoyment/company of humans than for the animals. obviously there are a lot of animals that need rescued (don't get me started on breeding) but this declawing, docking, clipping, vaccinating, chipping is sick domestication of animals.
 Quoting: peacerebelgirl


Most people today are unethical scumbags and look at animals as if they were objects. Very sad.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5670974


clappa


case in point --


I just yank em out with a pair of needle nose plies. Saves a vet visit and bill.
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And your stance on neutering ...

a family member is about to get her kitten declawed (they wanted to do it months ago but the cat has to be at least six months) even though i told her it was not a good thing to do. she insists on talking to me about it anyway, as if i approve.

i love animals (i'm an abolitionist vegan) and have had pets in the past. i'm not sure if i could 'own' more animals because i'm not sure it's right. pets are more for the enjoyment/company of humans than for the animals. obviously there are a lot of animals that need rescued (don't get me started on breeding) but this declawing, docking, clipping, vaccinating, chipping is sick domestication of animals.
 Quoting: peacerebelgirl


It's none of your business. Be glad the cat has a home.

I hate narcissistic people who honestly believe sharing their opinions on how others should care for their beloved pets is anything but incredibly rude, pushy, and off-putting. MYOB.
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educating people about the hazards of declawing an animal is not narcissistic, nor is it my opinion. it's based on fact.

mind my own business? shall we do that about every issue that's wrong in the world - just let things be when people do things that are wrong and cruel? how will anything ever change in the world if we 'mind our own business' and fail to speak out about things that matter? if we all just mind our own business, look the other way and essentially not give a shit, the world would be even more fucked up than it already is. shall we mind our own business if we know a child is being abused? declawing is a form of animal abuse. there is no reason for it other than it protects their master's furniture. that's a pathetic reason to remove a cat's claws.

if you feel so strongly that I mind my own business, why are you minding mine?
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Declawing is a terrible thing to do to a cat.
A cats claws are such a part of a cat, it's not a cat really without them.

Don't get a cat unless you can care for it properly and live with it scratching stuff.

My cat goes out in the backyard and kills nothing except the occassional small mouse which she will bring over to me and drop at my feet all proud of herself.

Cats are special creatures, you want bad karma? Hurt a cat.

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Maybe she can get her kitten to wear those cute little claw covers instead?
 Quoting: INK1



she is more concerned about her furniture than the well-being of the kitten. humans do the dumbest things. how would they feel if someone pulled out their finger and toe nails?
 Quoting: peacerebelgirl


I am against it too op. I feel that they need their claws in case they get outside and have to defend themselves...and yes to me it is horrible to do. People say they do it to protect thier furniture. That pisses me off cause you can teach your cat to not scatch the furniture.
 Quoting: A 1492295


I hate to dampen anyone's passion about de-clawing
but we adopted a rescue cat who had been declawed.
He never used a litter box as we trained him to come
and go through a cat door, so I cannot say about how
it is for a cat to use the litter box, but I can say
that he was always happy, could climb up and down the
highest trees. He caught birds and bats and defended
his territory as mightily as any other cat. He lived
to a ripe old age of 19. He was a sublimely happy cat
and did not ever appear to suffer from the declawing.
Also, his paws did not appear to be mutilated in any
respect except that the claws were not there.

just saying....my reality and that of my sweet cat
and his happy, long life.
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peacerebelgirl  (OP)

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And your stance on neutering ...


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unlike declawing, docking, clipping, and other unnecessary procedures, it seems to be one of the necessary evils of having pets. millions of unwanted and euthanized animals is the result of not doing it.
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at least it isn't circumcision



both of my cats have their all their claws - they need them for self-defense - especially my black kitteh which can shapeshift into a jaguar

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Why are you so concerned with other peoples choices, really its none of your business. Are you that bored with your own life ? Get a life and stay out of other peoples business!
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a family member is about to get her kitten declawed (they wanted to do it months ago but the cat has to be at least six months) even though i told her it was not a good thing to do. she insists on talking to me about it anyway, as if i approve.

i love animals (i'm an abolitionist vegan) and have had pets in the past. i'm not sure if i could 'own' more animals because i'm not sure it's right. pets are more for the enjoyment/company of humans than for the animals. obviously there are a lot of animals that need rescued (don't get me started on breeding) but this declawing, docking, clipping, vaccinating, chipping is sick domestication of animals.
 Quoting: peacerebelgirl


Well it will keep all the other creatures safe from that cats harmful claws.

Just feed cats mouse flavored vegan corn and call it all good.
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Cats destroying furniture with their claws pisses me off.
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a family member is about to get her kitten declawed (they wanted to do it months ago but the cat has to be at least six months) even though i told her it was not a good thing to do. she insists on talking to me about it anyway, as if i approve.

i love animals (i'm an abolitionist vegan) and have had pets in the past. i'm not sure if i could 'own' more animals because i'm not sure it's right. pets are more for the enjoyment/company of humans than for the animals. obviously there are a lot of animals that need rescued (don't get me started on breeding) but this declawing, docking, clipping, vaccinating, chipping is sick domestication of animals.
 Quoting: peacerebelgirl


Yea..Ya think? Come tell that to my leather couch....I should have removed both front and back claws. Little did I know that they could still scratch the crap out of the leather with only rear claws. Little bastard is lucky I didn't put her in the blender and make a smoothy out of her.
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Cats should be indoor/outdoor with their claws left on. Otherwise don't get a cat. Indoor cats are worthless. They die early from sitting around and getting fat. Outdoor cats are healthy and robust. All the cats my folks had growing up destroyed dogs in every fight. Plus outdoor cats don't require any maintenance. You can just let them out to crap and if you go on vacation you just leave a bowl of chow and they're fine. They can catch rabbits and birds if they want something else. I'm always perplexed why anyone would say they hate a cat. It's like really? You hate an animal? For what reason? Must be too many vaccines and too much tap water. Anyway don't declaw.
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She should try Kitten Mittens!

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declawing a cat is like removing the fingers at the first knuckle.
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Bullshit
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My cats are declawed on the front.

If they were angry at me they could just leave.

But they stay, so I suppose they enjoy our deal. No claws for free food, home, security and love.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3913053


^This
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You might tell the person that is so worried about their furniture that there is a huge chance that once this cat is declawed, kitty can develop litter box problems later on. This is a known fact in all rescue groups (they end up with lots of cats due to litterbox issues, the number one reason people dump their cats on rescue and the pound). Of course, this person sounds like they will just dump the cat anyway... sorry assed people.
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WTF are you nuuuts???

I did no know such a practice even exist.

OMG I have trained my cat with much love and patience to watch out when she uses her claws

and she is so careful you would not believe

makes me angry to hear that I would punch your family member in the face for just think about that! GRRRRRRRRRRR!
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Decapitation is a much better option.
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Blender is much more fun.
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koolaidman Here' have some more koolaide.
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I agree with what you have to say about de-clawing, but then you went and said something stupid: "and cats ought to go outside not be caged all their life."

The domestic cat, whether a pet or feral, is detrimental to the natural species in the environment you let them roam around in.

The natural wildlife has every right to be here, and people like you who let their domestic animals loose on the environment are a BIG part of the problem.

AND THAT REALLY PISSES ME OFF!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1414556


Yep, this will probably save a few hundred birds over the years.

"Exact numbers are unknown, but scientists estimate that nationwide,
cats kill hundreds of millions of birds, and more than a billion
small mammals, such as rabbits, squirrels, and chipmunks, each
year. Cats kill common species such as Cardinal, Blue Jay, and House
Wren, as well as rare and endangered species such as Piping Plover,
Florida Scrub-Jay, and California Least Tern."

Cats ruin the natural ecosystem of our land. Cardinals used to be common here, but nearly extinct now. All because of cats.

Haven't you noticed that cats kill for fun more often than not? I've only seen a few eat their kill.
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You should hang out with this guy.

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peacerebelgirl  (OP)

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11/19/2011 12:31 PM
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WTF are you nuuuts???

I did no know such a practice even exist.

OMG I have trained my cat with much love and patience to watch out when she uses her claws

and she is so careful you would not believe

makes me angry to hear that I would punch your family member in the face for just think about that! GRRRRRRRRRRR!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5669802



makes me angry too, along with the asinine comments here from 'morans'. there are some mean fucked up people in the world.





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