Declawing Cats Pisses Me Off! | |
peacerebelgirl
(OP) User ID: 4520123 United States 11/17/2011 06:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is really not as bad as you say. I have some cats that are declawed and some cats that are not. The declawed ones are only declawed on their front paws and they never go outside. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5396662 Who is it not bad for? you or your cat? Does not matter if it's the front of back. It's still digusting to do to an animal. how can a human know if it's really not that bad since it happened to the cat and not to them? and cats ought to go outside not be caged all their life. |
Downtown
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peacerebelgirl
(OP) User ID: 4520123 United States 11/17/2011 06:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Im with ya OP. Taking a cats claws is like taking a persons fingers. You dont want your furniture ripped up, then buy a fish. Quoting: Downtown yup, it is. a fish would be a better fit, for sure. The animals of the world exist for their own reasons. They were not made for humans any more than black people were made for white, or women created for men. ~Alice Walker |
peacerebelgirl
(OP) User ID: 4520123 United States 11/17/2011 06:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | just sent her an article - maybe it will convince her to call it off: [link to amby.com] Why Do People Declaw Anyway? If you are the kind of person that has more value in inanimate objects such as furniture and priceless heirlooms, do yourself a favor and go buy a piece of art. Think about why you want a cat in the first place. Was it something that would class up your environment? Was it something you imagined would sit at your feet adoringly looking up at you? If none of the above and you want a cat for companionship and to be a part of this wonderful creature's activities, then you are going to have to understand that all young animals go through a series of behaviours (much like children). Kittens have their crazies and with patience and training, can and will learn to express themselves in ways that make them compatible living in homes with humans. actually, sent this instead: [link to www.associatedcontent.com] Last Edited by Wild&Free on 11/17/2011 06:28 PM |
Blue Skies
User ID: 1337548 United States 11/18/2011 06:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So OP you are suggesting that breeders should not breed pure bred cats? Or that domestic cats should not breed? Quoting: Blue Skies i don't see a reason for it when there are zillions of unwanted cats, many who are feral or put down. breeding 'pure' cats sounds a bit eugenics. So you are suggesting the extinction of breed of cat that as been around a long time, because you do not want any more cats being bred. Hmmmm.......Do you think that of all animals? Do you know that the majority of breeders will not sell you one of their cats if you do not promise to have them spayed or neutered, others fix them before you even get them. And that their is a contract to be signed before you take a the kitty home. Pure bred cats are not the problem of the cat over population. Unwanted or abandoned domestic cats that where never neutered or spayed are. :kitten on fence: |
Nomad01
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1652971 United States 11/18/2011 07:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | a family member is about to get her kitten declawed (they wanted to do it months ago but the cat has to be at least six months) even though i told her it was not a good thing to do. she insists on talking to me about it anyway, as if i approve. Quoting: peacerebelgirl i love animals (i'm an abolitionist vegan) and have had pets in the past. i'm not sure if i could 'own' more i'm not sure it's right. pets are more for the enjoyment/compan y of humans than for the animals. obviously there are a lot of animals that need rescued (don't get me started on breeding) but this declawing, docking, clipping, vaccinating, chipping is sick domestication of animals. Cats piss me off |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1414556 United States 11/18/2011 08:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree with what you have to say about de-clawing, but then you went and said something stupid: "and cats ought to go outside not be caged all their life." The domestic cat, whether a pet or feral, is detrimental to the natural species in the environment you let them roam around in. The natural wildlife has every right to be here, and people like you who let their domestic animals loose on the environment are a BIG part of the problem. AND THAT REALLY PISSES ME OFF! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5607434 United States 11/18/2011 09:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | a family member is about to get her kitten declawed (they wanted to do it months ago but the cat has to be at least six months) even though i told her it was not a good thing to do. she insists on talking to me about it anyway, as if i approve. Quoting: peacerebelgirl i love animals (i'm an abolitionist vegan) and have had pets in the past. i'm not sure if i could 'own' more animals because i'm not sure it's right. pets are more for the enjoyment/company of humans than for the animals. obviously there are a lot of animals that need rescued (don't get me started on breeding) but this declawing, docking, clipping, vaccinating, chipping is sick domestication of animals. ANIMALS ARE FOR FOOD. |
samanthasunflower
User ID: 5364986 United States 11/18/2011 09:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My domestic cats get to roam free across the farm. They do kill the occasional bird, but they mostly they spend their days taking out mice, rats, gophers, moles, and the occasional mink. The neighborhood dogs keep the coyotes away from my place, and the cats fill the niche that is left behind. If you live in or near a city, then you need to keep your kitty up for the cat's sake. But my cats serve a needed purpose on the farm. Without a few cats running loose the feed room and hay barn can get overrun. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1097757 United States 11/18/2011 10:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | a family member is about to get her kitten declawed (they wanted to do it months ago but the cat has to be at least six months) even though i told her it was not a good thing to do. she insists on talking to me about it anyway, as if i approve. Quoting: peacerebelgirl i love animals (i'm an abolitionist vegan) and have had pets in the past. i'm not sure if i could 'own' more animals because i'm not sure it's right. pets are more for the enjoyment/company of humans than for the animals. obviously there are a lot of animals that need rescued (don't get me started on breeding) but this declawing, docking, clipping, vaccinating, chipping is sick domestication of animals. My advice to you and people like youis to MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1509849 United States 11/18/2011 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My domestic cats get to roam free across the farm. They do kill the occasional bird, but they mostly they spend their days taking out mice, rats, gophers, moles, and the occasional mink. Quoting: samanthasunflower The neighborhood dogs keep the coyotes away from my place, and the cats fill the niche that is left behind. If you live in or near a city, then you need to keep your kitty up for the cat's sake. But my cats serve a needed purpose on the farm. Without a few cats running loose the feed room and hay barn can get overrun. yes cats are very important to the farm life. they keep the other mice, snakes, and other little critters away. But these are the ones you don't declaw just the inside ones. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1509849 United States 11/18/2011 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | a family member is about to get her kitten declawed (they wanted to do it months ago but the cat has to be at least six months) even though i told her it was not a good thing to do. she insists on talking to me about it anyway, as if i approve. Quoting: peacerebelgirl i love animals (i'm an abolitionist vegan) and have had pets in the past. i'm not sure if i could 'own' more animals because i'm not sure it's right. pets are more for the enjoyment/company of humans than for the animals. obviously there are a lot of animals that need rescued (don't get me started on breeding) but this declawing, docking, clipping, vaccinating, chipping is sick domestication of animals. My advice to you and people like youis to MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS |
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Laura Bow
User ID: 1158661 United States 11/18/2011 10:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | a family member is about to get her kitten declawed (they wanted to do it months ago but the cat has to be at least six months) even though i told her it was not a good thing to do. she insists on talking to me about it anyway, as if i approve. Quoting: peacerebelgirl i love animals (i'm an abolitionist vegan) and have had pets in the past. i'm not sure if i could 'own' more animals because i'm not sure it's right. pets are more for the enjoyment/company of humans than for the animals. obviously there are a lot of animals that need rescued (don't get me started on breeding) but this declawing, docking, clipping, vaccinating, chipping is sick domestication of animals. So you believe in spreading rabies around? WTF...so much for you caring about animals. |
Anonymous Cowardess User ID: 5241828 United States 11/18/2011 10:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | a family member is about to get her kitten declawed (they wanted to do it months ago but the cat has to be at least six months) even though i told her it was not a good thing to do. she insists on talking to me about it anyway, as if i approve. Quoting: peacerebelgirl i love animals (i'm an abolitionist vegan) and have had pets in the past. i'm not sure if i could 'own' more animals because i'm not sure it's right. pets are more for the enjoyment/company of humans than for the animals. obviously there are a lot of animals that need rescued (don't get me started on breeding) but this declawing, docking, clipping, vaccinating, chipping is sick domestication of animals. It's none of your business. Be glad the cat has a home. I hate narcissistic people who honestly believe sharing their opinions on how others should care for their beloved pets is anything but incredibly rude, pushy, and off-putting. MYOB. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 4750204 United States 11/18/2011 10:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They dont just take the claw, they amputate at the knuckle (tell your friend this). It is painful, sometimes forever The cat NEVER gets used to not having it's claws Cats who are declawed tend to bite more, as their natural defense has been taken away. So she is creating a monster as not all cats claw at furniture and drapes, etc, etc. For instance, my doesnt. You have to use special cat litter, and they dont cover their waste usually since they use their claws to also do this. Your friend is making a mistake. I hope you can talk her out of it. What city does she live in ? Most cities are, or have banned declawing as it is considered cruel. |
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Tawandaaaa
User ID: 1502149 United States 11/18/2011 11:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | she is more concerned about her furniture than the well-being of the kitten. humans do the dumbest things. how would they feel if someone pulled out their finger and toe nails? They don't pull them out. They chop them off at the first knuckle. Think of having your fingers chopped off at the knuckle above your nail. Explain that to her and she may change her mind, especially if she thinks it's just the removal of the nail. There is a procedure when they cut the tendon so that the can't can't extend the claw, but you have to continue to trim their nails otherwise they will get ingrown. if you are going to do that, you may as well just trim them weekly, which will keep down most of the damage. As long as you get them used to it as a kitten and be careful not to cut the quick, it only takes 30 seconds to do. |
Tawandaaaa
User ID: 1502149 United States 11/18/2011 11:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | a family member is about to get her kitten declawed (they wanted to do it months ago but the cat has to be at least six months) even though i told her it was not a good thing to do. she insists on talking to me about it anyway, as if i approve. Quoting: peacerebelgirl i love animals (i'm an abolitionist vegan) and have had pets in the past. i'm not sure if i could 'own' more animals because i'm not sure it's right. pets are more for the enjoyment/company of humans than for the animals. obviously there are a lot of animals that need rescued (don't get me started on breeding) but this declawing, docking, clipping, vaccinating, chipping is sick domestication of animals. So you believe in spreading rabies around? WTF...so much for you caring about animals. In most areas, cats don't even have to be vaccinated for rabies. |
peacerebelgirl
(OP) User ID: 4520123 United States 11/19/2011 10:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | a family member is about to get her kitten declawed (they wanted to do it months ago but the cat has to be at least six months) even though i told her it was not a good thing to do. she insists on talking to me about it anyway, as if i approve. Quoting: peacerebelgirl i love animals (i'm an abolitionist vegan) and have had pets in the past. i'm not sure if i could 'own' more animals because i'm not sure it's right. pets are more for the enjoyment/company of humans than for the animals. obviously there are a lot of animals that need rescued (don't get me started on breeding) but this declawing, docking, clipping, vaccinating, chipping is sick domestication of animals. It's none of your business. Be glad the cat has a home. I hate narcissistic people who honestly believe sharing their opinions on how others should care for their beloved pets is anything but incredibly rude, pushy, and off-putting. MYOB. educating people about the hazards of declawing an animal is not narcissistic, nor is it my opinion. it's based on fact. mind my own business? shall we do that about every issue that's wrong in the world - just let things be when people do things that are wrong and cruel? how will anything ever change in the world if we 'mind our own business' and fail to speak out about things that matter? if we all just mind our own business, look the other way and essentially not give a shit, the world would be even more fucked up than it already is. shall we mind our own business if we know a child is being abused? declawing is a form of animal abuse. there is no reason for it other than it protects their master's furniture. that's a pathetic reason to remove a cat's claws. if you feel so strongly that I mind my own business, why are you minding mine? Last Edited by Wild&Free on 11/19/2011 11:05 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5670974 Portugal 11/19/2011 11:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | a family member is about to get her kitten declawed (they wanted to do it months ago but the cat has to be at least six months) even though i told her it was not a good thing to do. she insists on talking to me about it anyway, as if i approve. Quoting: peacerebelgirl i love animals (i'm an abolitionist vegan) and have had pets in the past. i'm not sure if i could 'own' more animals because i'm not sure it's right. pets are more for the enjoyment/company of humans than for the animals. obviously there are a lot of animals that need rescued (don't get me started on breeding) but this declawing, docking, clipping, vaccinating, chipping is sick domestication of animals. Most people today are unethical scumbags and look at animals as if they were objects. Very sad. |
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