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Declawing Cats Pisses Me Off!

 
peacerebelgirl  (OP)

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It is really not as bad as you say. I have some cats that are declawed and some cats that are not. The declawed ones are only declawed on their front paws and they never go outside.
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Who is it not bad for? you or your cat? Does not matter if it's the front of back. It's still digusting to do to an animal.
 Quoting: A 1492295


how can a human know if it's really not that bad since it happened to the cat and not to them? and cats ought to go outside not be caged all their life.
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Im with ya OP. Taking a cats claws is like taking a persons fingers. You dont want your furniture ripped up, then buy a fish.
peacerebelgirl  (OP)

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Im with ya OP. Taking a cats claws is like taking a persons fingers. You dont want your furniture ripped up, then buy a fish.
 Quoting: Downtown



yup, it is. a fish would be a better fit, for sure.


The animals of the world exist for their own reasons. They were not made for humans any more than black people were made for white, or women created for men. ~Alice Walker
peacerebelgirl  (OP)

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just sent her an article - maybe it will convince her to call it off: [link to amby.com]

Why Do People Declaw Anyway?

If you are the kind of person that has more value in inanimate objects such as furniture and priceless heirlooms, do yourself a favor and go buy a piece of art. Think about why you want a cat in the first place. Was it something that would class up your environment? Was it something you imagined would sit at your feet adoringly looking up at you? If none of the above and you want a cat for companionship and to be a part of this wonderful creature's activities, then you are going to have to understand that all young animals go through a series of behaviours (much like children). Kittens have their crazies and with patience and training, can and will learn to express themselves in ways that make them compatible living in homes with humans.


actually, sent this instead: [link to www.associatedcontent.com]

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Blue Skies

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So OP you are suggesting that breeders should not breed pure bred cats? Or that domestic cats should not breed?
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i don't see a reason for it when there are zillions of unwanted cats, many who are feral or put down.

breeding 'pure' cats sounds a bit eugenics.
 Quoting: peacerebelgirl

So you are suggesting the extinction of breed of cat that as been around a long time, because you do not want any more cats being bred. Hmmmm.......Do you think that of all animals?
Do you know that the majority of breeders will not sell you one of their cats if you do not promise to have them spayed or neutered, others fix them before you even get them. And that their is a contract to be signed before you take a the kitty home.
Pure bred cats are not the problem of the cat over population. Unwanted or abandoned domestic cats that where never neutered or spayed are.
:kitten on fence:
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It is easy for people to talk about pets living free in the wild until you witness it in person. Dogs that don't starve end up running in packs and feel strong enough to attack children and other pets. My daughter lives in a rural area. Many people dropped their pets off when they no longer wanted them and the larger dogs feed on the smaller ones. The larger dogs also began running in packs and were attacking pets, livestock and in two cases humans. My SIL killed several when they tried to break into his backyard to get at his two golden retrievers. This is reality not some pipe dream.
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so does it piss you off to chop a cats balls off to prevent it from breeding op?
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a family member is about to get her kitten declawed (they wanted to do it months ago but the cat has to be at least six months) even though i told her it was not a good thing to do. she insists on talking to me about it anyway, as if i approve.

i love animals (i'm an abolitionist vegan) and have had pets in the past. i'm not sure if i could 'own' more i'm not sure it's right. pets are more for the enjoyment/compan
y of humans than for the animals. obviously there are a lot of animals that need rescued (don't get me started on breeding) but this declawing, docking, clipping, vaccinating, chipping is sick domestication of animals.
 Quoting: peacerebelgirl


Cats piss me off
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I agree with what you have to say about de-clawing, but then you went and said something stupid: "and cats ought to go outside not be caged all their life."

The domestic cat, whether a pet or feral, is detrimental to the natural species in the environment you let them roam around in.

The natural wildlife has every right to be here, and people like you who let their domestic animals loose on the environment are a BIG part of the problem.

AND THAT REALLY PISSES ME OFF!
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Maybe she can get her kitten to wear those cute little claw covers instead?
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she is more concerned about her furniture than the well-being of the kitten. humans do the dumbest things. how would they feel if someone pulled out their finger and toe nails?
 Quoting: peacerebelgirl


why would an inside cat need claws for anyways they don't have to hunt for food if you feed them.
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a family member is about to get her kitten declawed (they wanted to do it months ago but the cat has to be at least six months) even though i told her it was not a good thing to do. she insists on talking to me about it anyway, as if i approve.

i love animals (i'm an abolitionist vegan) and have had pets in the past. i'm not sure if i could 'own' more animals because i'm not sure it's right. pets are more for the enjoyment/company of humans than for the animals. obviously there are a lot of animals that need rescued (don't get me started on breeding) but this declawing, docking, clipping, vaccinating, chipping is sick domestication of animals.
 Quoting: peacerebelgirl


ANIMALS ARE FOR FOOD.

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My domestic cats get to roam free across the farm. They do kill the occasional bird, but they mostly they spend their days taking out mice, rats, gophers, moles, and the occasional mink.

The neighborhood dogs keep the coyotes away from my place, and the cats fill the niche that is left behind.

If you live in or near a city, then you need to keep your kitty up for the cat's sake. But my cats serve a needed purpose on the farm. Without a few cats running loose the feed room and hay barn can get overrun.
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Another reason to get a small dog over them cats.
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a family member is about to get her kitten declawed (they wanted to do it months ago but the cat has to be at least six months) even though i told her it was not a good thing to do. she insists on talking to me about it anyway, as if i approve.

i love animals (i'm an abolitionist vegan) and have had pets in the past. i'm not sure if i could 'own' more animals because i'm not sure it's right. pets are more for the enjoyment/company of humans than for the animals. obviously there are a lot of animals that need rescued (don't get me started on breeding) but this declawing, docking, clipping, vaccinating, chipping is sick domestication of animals.
 Quoting: peacerebelgirl



My advice to you and people like youis to MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS
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My domestic cats get to roam free across the farm. They do kill the occasional bird, but they mostly they spend their days taking out mice, rats, gophers, moles, and the occasional mink.

The neighborhood dogs keep the coyotes away from my place, and the cats fill the niche that is left behind.

If you live in or near a city, then you need to keep your kitty up for the cat's sake. But my cats serve a needed purpose on the farm. Without a few cats running loose the feed room and hay barn can get overrun.
 Quoting: samanthasunflower


yes cats are very important to the farm life. they keep the other mice, snakes, and other little critters away. But these are the ones you don't declaw just the inside ones.
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a family member is about to get her kitten declawed (they wanted to do it months ago but the cat has to be at least six months) even though i told her it was not a good thing to do. she insists on talking to me about it anyway, as if i approve.

i love animals (i'm an abolitionist vegan) and have had pets in the past. i'm not sure if i could 'own' more animals because i'm not sure it's right. pets are more for the enjoyment/company of humans than for the animals. obviously there are a lot of animals that need rescued (don't get me started on breeding) but this declawing, docking, clipping, vaccinating, chipping is sick domestication of animals.
 Quoting: peacerebelgirl



My advice to you and people like youis to MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS
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clappa
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Cat's are forbidden in a lot of appartments unless declawed.
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a family member is about to get her kitten declawed (they wanted to do it months ago but the cat has to be at least six months) even though i told her it was not a good thing to do. she insists on talking to me about it anyway, as if i approve.

i love animals (i'm an abolitionist vegan) and have had pets in the past. i'm not sure if i could 'own' more animals because i'm not sure it's right. pets are more for the enjoyment/company of humans than for the animals. obviously there are a lot of animals that need rescued (don't get me started on breeding) but this declawing, docking, clipping, vaccinating, chipping is sick domestication of animals.
 Quoting: peacerebelgirl


So you believe in spreading rabies around? WTF...so much for you caring about animals.
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a family member is about to get her kitten declawed (they wanted to do it months ago but the cat has to be at least six months) even though i told her it was not a good thing to do. she insists on talking to me about it anyway, as if i approve.

i love animals (i'm an abolitionist vegan) and have had pets in the past. i'm not sure if i could 'own' more animals because i'm not sure it's right. pets are more for the enjoyment/company of humans than for the animals. obviously there are a lot of animals that need rescued (don't get me started on breeding) but this declawing, docking, clipping, vaccinating, chipping is sick domestication of animals.
 Quoting: peacerebelgirl


It's none of your business. Be glad the cat has a home.

I hate narcissistic people who honestly believe sharing their opinions on how others should care for their beloved pets is anything but incredibly rude, pushy, and off-putting. MYOB.
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then let's stop breeding them. and spay and neuter the ones who are fecund.
 Quoting: peacerebelgirl


Why aren't they free to breed as they wish...just like you?

I'm not the one offended by declawing and spaying/neutering pets...that was your stance.
 Quoting: SPUD


by all means, got forbid you cut the claws off but it's ok to cut his balls off....
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Not good for the cat for a number or reasons :

They dont just take the claw, they amputate at the knuckle
(tell your friend this).

It is painful, sometimes forever

The cat NEVER gets used to not having it's claws

Cats who are declawed tend to bite more, as their natural defense has been taken away. So she is creating a monster
as not all cats claw at furniture and drapes, etc, etc.
For instance, my doesnt.

You have to use special cat litter, and they dont cover their waste usually since they use their claws to also do this.

Your friend is making a mistake.

I hope you can talk her out of it.

What city does she live in ? Most cities are, or have banned declawing as it is considered cruel.
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My cats are declawed on the front.

If they were angry at me they could just leave.

But they stay, so I suppose they enjoy our deal. No claws for free food, home, security and love.
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Another reason to get a small dog over them cats.
 Quoting: LakeXeno


I'm an animal lover but dogs I just can't stand. Way too annoying and capricious.
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I lnow it is a shame,, can they just de-head them instead?
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declawing a cat is like removing the fingers at the first knuckle.
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Maybe she can get her kitten to wear those cute little claw covers instead?
 Quoting: INK1



she is more concerned about her furniture than the well-being of the kitten. humans do the dumbest things. how would they feel if someone pulled out their finger and toe nails?
 Quoting: peacerebelgirl


They don't pull them out. They chop them off at the first knuckle. Think of having your fingers chopped off at the knuckle above your nail. Explain that to her and she may change her mind, especially if she thinks it's just the removal of the nail. There is a procedure when they cut the tendon so that the can't can't extend the claw, but you have to continue to trim their nails otherwise they will get ingrown. if you are going to do that, you may as well just trim them weekly, which will keep down most of the damage. As long as you get them used to it as a kitten and be careful not to cut the quick, it only takes 30 seconds to do.
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a family member is about to get her kitten declawed (they wanted to do it months ago but the cat has to be at least six months) even though i told her it was not a good thing to do. she insists on talking to me about it anyway, as if i approve.

i love animals (i'm an abolitionist vegan) and have had pets in the past. i'm not sure if i could 'own' more animals because i'm not sure it's right. pets are more for the enjoyment/company of humans than for the animals. obviously there are a lot of animals that need rescued (don't get me started on breeding) but this declawing, docking, clipping, vaccinating, chipping is sick domestication of animals.
 Quoting: peacerebelgirl


So you believe in spreading rabies around? WTF...so much for you caring about animals.
 Quoting: Laura Bow


In most areas, cats don't even have to be vaccinated for rabies.
peacerebelgirl  (OP)

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a family member is about to get her kitten declawed (they wanted to do it months ago but the cat has to be at least six months) even though i told her it was not a good thing to do. she insists on talking to me about it anyway, as if i approve.

i love animals (i'm an abolitionist vegan) and have had pets in the past. i'm not sure if i could 'own' more animals because i'm not sure it's right. pets are more for the enjoyment/company of humans than for the animals. obviously there are a lot of animals that need rescued (don't get me started on breeding) but this declawing, docking, clipping, vaccinating, chipping is sick domestication of animals.
 Quoting: peacerebelgirl


It's none of your business. Be glad the cat has a home.

I hate narcissistic people who honestly believe sharing their opinions on how others should care for their beloved pets is anything but incredibly rude, pushy, and off-putting. MYOB.
 Quoting: Anonymous Cowardess 5241828



educating people about the hazards of declawing an animal is not narcissistic, nor is it my opinion. it's based on fact.

mind my own business? shall we do that about every issue that's wrong in the world - just let things be when people do things that are wrong and cruel? how will anything ever change in the world if we 'mind our own business' and fail to speak out about things that matter? if we all just mind our own business, look the other way and essentially not give a shit, the world would be even more fucked up than it already is. shall we mind our own business if we know a child is being abused? declawing is a form of animal abuse. there is no reason for it other than it protects their master's furniture. that's a pathetic reason to remove a cat's claws.

if you feel so strongly that I mind my own business, why are you minding mine?

Last Edited by Wild&Free on 11/19/2011 11:05 AM
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a family member is about to get her kitten declawed (they wanted to do it months ago but the cat has to be at least six months) even though i told her it was not a good thing to do. she insists on talking to me about it anyway, as if i approve.

i love animals (i'm an abolitionist vegan) and have had pets in the past. i'm not sure if i could 'own' more animals because i'm not sure it's right. pets are more for the enjoyment/company of humans than for the animals. obviously there are a lot of animals that need rescued (don't get me started on breeding) but this declawing, docking, clipping, vaccinating, chipping is sick domestication of animals.
 Quoting: peacerebelgirl


Most people today are unethical scumbags and look at animals as if they were objects. Very sad.
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I just yank em out with a pair of needle nose plies. Saves a vet visit and bill.





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