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Overpopulation is a Myth
It seems that a lot of people really believe in the myth of
overpopulation, but where does this myth come from and how is it so
persistent?

Well, for one, it's easy to believe when you live in a city crammed
full of people stacked on top of one another. It's easy to forget
that there are still wide open spaces, and plenty of them.

It's also an idea that has been crammed into our heads our entire
lives, but the people doing the cramming are the same ones that
have lied to us over and over again to justify just about anything.

Check out this animated short on the the making of a myth...


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Re: Overpopulation is a Myth
food is the ultimate population decider not open space. much, if not all, of the land you talk about is not arable...
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Re: Overpopulation is a Myth
Tell that to the 6 MILLION AFRICANS that starved to death, last year!
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It is not a myth at all first you need to understand when it would become a real danger.

Imagine that every person in the world was starting to live exactly like an American i mean eating tons of meat and crap, driving 4X4, having 2 houses,traveling by plane,buying any damn plastic crap that serve no purpose at all, destroying every acre of nature for stupid casino or what else, buying and building all kind of weapons to spread more chaos etc.

So if every person on earth start to live like an American then we will need 9 planets earth and to my knowledge we don't have those planets!
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food is the ultimate population decider not open space. much, if not all, of the land you talk about is not arable...
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The resources to overcome these negatives have been waisted. The need for war has been nurtured instead of the betterment of the people.

What would the world be like today if the manipulation of Energy and Technology had not been suppressed?

Last Edited by Dark Zen on 11/01/2011 10:36 AM
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Re: Overpopulation is a Myth
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... "overpeoplation" is a LOCAL crisis!!!!! ...
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Re: Overpopulation is a Myth
food is the ultimate population decider not open space. much, if not all, of the land you talk about is not arable...
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yes, resources..it was never about space...hell, our planet cannot support 7 billion meat eaters...
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It is not a myth at all first you need to understand when it would become a real danger.

Imagine that every person in the world was starting to live exactly like an American i mean eating tons of meat and crap, driving 4X4, having 2 houses,traveling by plane,buying any damn plastic crap that serve no purpose at all, destroying every acre of nature for stupid casino or what else, buying and building all kind of weapons to spread more chaos etc.

So if every person on earth start to live like an American then we will need 9 planets earth and to my knowledge we don't have those planets!
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+1
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Re: Overpopulation is a Myth
The REAL Over population is this...

There are TOO MANY Politicians

There ARE too many Corporations

There are too many BANKERS


I think you you get my point now...

Can Anyone argue that?
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Re: Overpopulation is a Myth
at this speed we are running out of fisheries by 2050...
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Re: Overpopulation is a Myth
It is not a myth at all first you need to understand when it would become a real danger.

Imagine that every person in the world was starting to live exactly like an American i mean eating tons of meat and crap, driving 4X4, having 2 houses,traveling by plane,buying any damn plastic crap that serve no purpose at all, destroying every acre of nature for stupid casino or what else, buying and building all kind of weapons to spread more chaos etc.

So if every person on earth start to live like an American then we will need 9 planets earth and to my knowledge we don't have those planets!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4420487


You make my point for me.

This is ALL done in the NAME of CORPORATE Profit.
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Re: Overpopulation is a Myth
The REAL Over population is this...

There are TOO MANY Politicians

There ARE too many Corporations

There are too many BANKERS


I think you you get my point now...

Can Anyone argue that?
 Quoting: Dark Zen


a bit. ever research the ability of of pre-industrial man to produce food with just animal power and manure? it would not support even the current population...
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It is not a myth, this world was designed for 1/2 billion people. With advanced technologies to control pollution and a peaceful global civilization it can handle 1 billion. we have over taxed the planet. everytime you wash your hair with shampoo, you over tax the planet, because there are so many, and to say nothing off all the rest of our stuff. My furnace is running this morning and over taxing the planet. Ponder this stuff. We have not developed what was given to us, and even with that, we have too many people at this time, over too many years. Man must learn to control his numbers within the abiity of the planet to process his shit, literally, because every time any of us, on this over populated work pee or shit, and send it down the drains, we have over taxed this world from the shear number of us.
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Re: Overpopulation is a Myth
The REAL Over population is this...

There are TOO MANY Politicians

There ARE too many Corporations

There are too many BANKERS


I think you you get my point now...

Can Anyone argue that?
 Quoting: Dark Zen


a bit. ever research the ability of of pre-industrial man to produce food with just animal power and manure? it would not support even the current population...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1534258


I didn't say... "technology is bad"

I am saying it has been misused.

Your Supposed Overpopulation WAS caused by the Very thing you are defending.

If Food Production, Technology, Law, Money... was left to a Community setting (Local Law) and not Centralized... then the planets population would be attending the Important things instead of arguing who holds the profits, Patents, & Copyrights for Derivatives and Hedge funds.

Last Edited by Dark Zen on 11/01/2011 10:51 AM
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Re: Overpopulation is a Myth
I agree with OP. And this planet can support many more than we have now. You naysayers are just grinding your axes.
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Re: Overpopulation is a Myth
food is the ultimate population decider not open space. much, if not all, of the land you talk about is not arable...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1534258


The resources to overcome these negatives have been waisted. The need for war has been nurtured instead of the betterment of the people.

What would the world be like today if the manipulation of Energy and Technology had not been suppressed?
 Quoting: Dark Zen


This is our number one problem TPTB have been suppressing new energy technologies that would, if used, eliminate most of the problems we face today. sk
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food is the ultimate population decider not open space. much, if not all, of the land you talk about is not arable...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1534258


The resources to overcome these negatives have been waisted. The need for war has been nurtured instead of the betterment of the people.

What would the world be like today if the manipulation of Energy and Technology had not been suppressed?
 Quoting: Dark Zen


This is our number one problem TPTB have been suppressing new energy technologies that would, if used, eliminate most of the problems we face today. sk
 Quoting: seeker2


Thank You SK ! You Get it !
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Not to mention the constant waste of resources in the name of profits, if you ain't got the paper, you can't get the food. While millions starve in Africa, you can't walk down the street of an American city without seeing a restaurant of some sort. I don't think people realize how much food gets wasted... we live way beyond our means...
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Not to mention the constant waste of resources in the name of profits, if you ain't got the paper, you can't get the food. While millions starve in Africa, you can't walk down the street of an American city without seeing a restaurant of some sort. I don't think people realize how much food gets wasted... we live way beyond our means...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3633456


I somewhat agree...

The living beyond means needs to be looked at closely...

If we constructed our Food system to SERVE THE PEOPLE INSTEAD of SERVING for Profits for Corps... then the Means we are living... could even be better.

THIS IS THE DANGEROUS "Dirty Little Secret" that you and I are not suppose to know.

Last Edited by Dark Zen on 11/01/2011 11:13 AM
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Tell that to the 6 MILLION AFRICANS that starved to death, last year!
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Tell that to that 5% who hold all the world's wealth in one bank account and could have done something about it! But why would they, since DEPOPULATION is their STATED goal. Idiot.
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food is the ultimate population decider not open space. much, if not all, of the land you talk about is not arable...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1534258


The resources to overcome these negatives have been waisted. The need for war has been nurtured instead of the betterment of the people.

What would the world be like today if the manipulation of Energy and Technology had not been suppressed?
 Quoting: Dark Zen


This is our number one problem TPTB have been suppressing new energy technologies that would, if used, eliminate most of the problems we face today. sk
 Quoting: seeker2


Thank You SK ! You Get it !
 Quoting: Dark Zen


Yah, I get where you are coming from, but we all need to learn to keep our dick in our pants, or even with new technologies we will be just kicking the can down the road a bit.

What I find interesting is that some point based on energy expended it will be cheaper to do our farming with manual labor once again rather than with large machinery. This is mainly due to rising fuel prices and machinery manufacturing costs. Well I guess that would solve the labor problem. lol sk
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Tell that to the 6 MILLION AFRICANS that starved to death, last year!
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Tell that to that 5% who hold all the world's wealth in one bank account and could have done something about it! But why would they, since DEPOPULATION is their STATED goal. Idiot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4113846


chuckle
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The resources to overcome these negatives have been waisted. The need for war has been nurtured instead of the betterment of the people.

What would the world be like today if the manipulation of Energy and Technology had not been suppressed?
 Quoting: Dark Zen


This is our number one problem TPTB have been suppressing new energy technologies that would, if used, eliminate most of the problems we face today. sk
 Quoting: seeker2


Thank You SK ! You Get it !
 Quoting: Dark Zen


Yah, I get where you are coming from, but we all need to learn to keep our dick in our pants, or even with new technologies we will be just kicking the can down the road a bit.

What I find interesting is that some point based on energy expended it will be cheaper to do our farming with manual labor once again rather than with large machinery. This is mainly due to rising fuel prices and machinery manufacturing costs. Well I guess that would solve the labor problem. lol sk
 Quoting: seeker2


If our lives were Balanced like they should be then I don't think it would be an issue.

So many are unhappy with there lives and they seek out ways to curb the unhappiness of not having the basic necessities of life.

All of which has been squandered by the Elite.
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If someone wants to live without concern or responsibilty for the children they bear.

If someone wants to live so densely that their own property/country cannot feed them.

If someone wants to have 8 children when they cannot comfortably feed even one.

If someone wants to live under Sheite Law, in Sweden?

If someone wants to live off of the labors of another thru theft.

Let Them Do it in Their Own Damn Country!

Population Density is a Matter of Personal Taste!

You want to live in your own ugly Hell? Do it some where Else!
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If someone wants to live without concern or responsibilty for the children they bear.

If someone wants to live so densely that their own property/country cannot feed them.

If someone wants to have 8 children when they cannot comfortably feed even one.

If someone wants to live under Sheite Law, in Sweden?

If someone wants to live off of the labors of another thru theft.

Let Them Do it in Their Own Damn Country!

Population Density is a Matter of Personal Taste!

You want to live in your own ugly Hell? Do it some where Else!
 Quoting: quest 1482722


The Suppression of Education must be stopped as well.

These things can be overcome with the Unhindered sharing of all knowledge.

The Wealthy have squandered information as well... to give them an upper hand in the corporate business world...

And for the Small percentage that remains that do not comply... can be handled on an individual basis.

But I assure you... it will be much less of a problem that what we now face.

Last Edited by Dark Zen on 11/01/2011 11:43 AM
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It is not a myth, this world was designed for 1/2 billion people. With advanced technologies to control pollution and a peaceful global civilization it can handle 1 billion. we have over taxed the planet. everytime you wash your hair with shampoo, you over tax the planet, because there are so many, and to say nothing off all the rest of our stuff. My furnace is running this morning and over taxing the planet. Ponder this stuff. We have not developed what was given to us, and even with that, we have too many people at this time, over too many years. Man must learn to control his numbers within the abiity of the planet to process his shit, literally, because every time any of us, on this over populated work pee or shit, and send it down the drains, we have over taxed this world from the shear number of us.
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+1....


Not to mention that overpopulation is also driving animals around the world to extinction.
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Tell that to the 6 MILLION AFRICANS that starved to death, last year!
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Tell that to the warlords who control the starving regions. Dumbass.
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It is not a myth, this world was designed for 1/2 billion people. With advanced technologies to control pollution and a peaceful global civilization it can handle 1 billion. we have over taxed the planet. everytime you wash your hair with shampoo, you over tax the planet, because there are so many, and to say nothing off all the rest of our stuff. My furnace is running this morning and over taxing the planet. Ponder this stuff. We have not developed what was given to us, and even with that, we have too many people at this time, over too many years. Man must learn to control his numbers within the abiity of the planet to process his shit, literally, because every time any of us, on this over populated work pee or shit, and send it down the drains, we have over taxed this world from the shear number of us.
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+1....


Not to mention that overpopulation is also driving animals around the world to extinction.
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You said..."It is not a myth, this world was designed for 1/2 billion"

Your MINDS have been Designed to think this.

Consider that....

Last Edited by Dark Zen on 11/01/2011 11:46 AM
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Tell that to the 6 MILLION AFRICANS that starved to death, last year!
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Tell that to the warlords who control the starving regions. Dumbass.
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Yes... Again... the warloards are just playing the game they way they have been taught to play.

All of this is a result of the Free Market BS.
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Re: Overpopulation is a Myth
Get rid of your assumptions and find the actual truth by looking at data and events. Overpopulation is the biggest problem we face as a humanity, and by promoting anything contrary, you are effectively supporting poverty, climate change, famine, pollution, enormous garbage landfills, lack or resources, criminal extraction of the planets resources, extinction of a multitude of species, deforestation, robbery of habitat for animals, more earthquakes, etc, etc, etc.
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It is not a myth at all first you need to understand when it would become a real danger.

Imagine that every person in the world was starting to live exactly like an American i mean eating tons of meat and crap, driving 4X4, having 2 houses,traveling by plane,buying any damn plastic crap that serve no purpose at all, destroying every acre of nature for stupid casino or what else, buying and building all kind of weapons to spread more chaos etc.

So if every person on earth start to live like an American then we will need 9 planets earth and to my knowledge we don't have those planets!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4420487


I can't believe a Canadian who lives in Canada would spew such nonsense. In Western Canada Ranchers & farmers go broke and lose their farms becasue they can't find enough buyers for their cattle; milk cows are being put down, and argicultural prices are valuable in commodity trading but the actual farmer gets jack shit.

I plan on having a house, a cabin, a vacation house, I do drive a 4x4 casue its Canada with crazy weather and corrupt gov'ts that pad their pensions instead of usuing money to pay for paving roads and snow removal etc.

I eat meat three times a day! So piss off U.N. brainwashed libtard.





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