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=)===>The Mystery Of Damascus Steel, The Forgotten Taste<===)= | |
| The Widows Son
Offer Upgrade  User ID: 1522782  Canada10/29/2011 06:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I started a thread earlier today, and what I discovered was worth a thread of it's own. I searched for Damascus Steel on GLP, and I don't think it's been covered yet. Damascus Steel: Was a term used by several Western cultures from the Medieval period onward to describe a type of steel used in swordmaking from about 300 BC to 1700 AD The original method of producing Damascus steel is not known. Due to differences in raw materials and manufacturing techniques, modern attempts to duplicate the metal have not been entirely successful. Despite this, several individuals in modern times have claimed that they have rediscovered the methods in which the original Damascus steel was produced. [link to en.wikipedia.org] A research team in Germany published a report in 2006 revealing nanowires and carbon nanotubes in a blade forged from Damascus steel,[5] which was promptly covered both by National Geographic[6] and the New York Times. Legendary Swords' Sharpness, Strength From Nanotubes, Study Says. [link to news.nationalgeographic.com] So the original method of producing Damascus steel is not known, but some German researchers found carbon nanotubes. Have we really lost our taste?  Luceo Non Uro |
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| The Widows Son
(OP) User ID: 1522782 Canada10/29/2011 06:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I started a thread earlier today, and what I discovered was worth a thread of it's own. I searched for Damascus Steel on GLP, and I don't think it's been covered yet. Quoting: The Widows Son Damascus Steel: Was a term used by several Western cultures from the Medieval period onward to describe a type of steel used in swordmaking from about 300 BC to 1700 AD The original method of producing Damascus steel is not known. Due to differences in raw materials and manufacturing techniques, modern attempts to duplicate the metal have not been entirely successful. Despite this, several individuals in modern times have claimed that they have rediscovered the methods in which the original Damascus steel was produced. [link to en.wikipedia.org] A research team in Germany published a report in 2006 revealing nanowires and carbon nanotubes in a blade forged from Damascus steel,[5] which was promptly covered both by National Geographic[6] and the New York Times. Legendary Swords' Sharpness, Strength From Nanotubes, Study Says. [link to news.nationalgeographic.com] So the original method of producing Damascus steel is not known, but some German researchers found carbon nanotubes. Have we really lost our taste? [link to en.wikipedia.org] [link to news.nationalgeographic.com] Luceo Non Uro |
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| watchingitall
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| Eagle # 1 User ID: 4270700 United States10/29/2011 06:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I always taught in my science classes that the historical origin of steel can from the mountain peoples of northeastern Turkey ( Can't remember the name ) when they used rocks containing iron ore to contain their fires on windy nights, and someone (probably) looking for that piece of meat he dropped into the fire the night before, found the ore that melted out of the rock and combined with the carbon to make steel ! That tribe eventually came down from the hills a won all the following wars against those ONLY having bronze swords. Assyrians ? Maybe. However, it must have taken many years to discover just the RIGHT amount of carbon to mix with the iron for the best steel . Tempering same is also an art. Eagle |
| G. House
User ID: 4248735  Netherlands10/29/2011 06:56 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I started a thread earlier today, and what I discovered was worth a thread of it's own. I searched for Damascus Steel on GLP, and I don't think it's been covered yet. Quoting: The Widows Son Damascus Steel: Was a term used by several Western cultures from the Medieval period onward to describe a type of steel used in swordmaking from about 300 BC to 1700 AD The original method of producing Damascus steel is not known. Due to differences in raw materials and manufacturing techniques, modern attempts to duplicate the metal have not been entirely successful. Despite this, several individuals in modern times have claimed that they have rediscovered the methods in which the original Damascus steel was produced. [link to en.wikipedia.org] A research team in Germany published a report in 2006 revealing nanowires and carbon nanotubes in a blade forged from Damascus steel,[5] which was promptly covered both by National Geographic[6] and the New York Times. Legendary Swords' Sharpness, Strength From Nanotubes, Study Says. [link to news.nationalgeographic.com] So the original method of producing Damascus steel is not known, but some German researchers found carbon nanotubes. Have we really lost our taste? Shotgun barrels were sometimes made of this. You could buy them until about the turn of the last Century. They were even available in the early Sears catalogs. Collectors don't shoot them as they are relatively unsafe and have a tendency to explode. Last Edited by G. House on 10/29/2011 06:58 PM "Everybody lies." |
| G. House
User ID: 4248735 Netherlands10/29/2011 07:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | +1 The process basically folds the steel over and over upon itself while being "case hardened". Therefore it's not consistent. Not that you can't make a wicked blade from it. It's blast pressure resistance is too inconsistent for use in firearms. Last Edited by G. House on 10/29/2011 07:02 PM "Everybody lies." |
| The Widows Son
(OP) User ID: 1522782 Canada10/29/2011 07:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey, OP, who was the widows son? Was there a quote "no-one has a ??? for the widow's son?" fuck google, I like asking! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4268407 That would be "is there no help". There are many meanings, concerning the Widow's son. Another example would be Christ bringing the Widow's son back to life, as written in the Bible. My father was a 33rd degree Scottish Rite Freemason & Shriner. He passed away seven years ago. I've never been asked, or even tried to join a lodge. Still, I feel obliged not comment on their beliefs, as to who they think the Widow's Son was. I am "The Widows Son", and I've never asked for help.  Luceo Non Uro |
| The Widows Son
(OP) User ID: 1522782 Canada10/29/2011 07:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I started a thread earlier today, and what I discovered was worth a thread of it's own. I searched for Damascus Steel on GLP, and I don't think it's been covered yet. Quoting: The Widows Son Damascus Steel: Was a term used by several Western cultures from the Medieval period onward to describe a type of steel used in swordmaking from about 300 BC to 1700 AD The original method of producing Damascus steel is not known. Due to differences in raw materials and manufacturing techniques, modern attempts to duplicate the metal have not been entirely successful. Despite this, several individuals in modern times have claimed that they have rediscovered the methods in which the original Damascus steel was produced. [link to en.wikipedia.org] A research team in Germany published a report in 2006 revealing nanowires and carbon nanotubes in a blade forged from Damascus steel,[5] which was promptly covered both by National Geographic[6] and the New York Times. Legendary Swords' Sharpness, Strength From Nanotubes, Study Says. [link to news.nationalgeographic.com] So the original method of producing Damascus steel is not known, but some German researchers found carbon nanotubes. Have we really lost our taste? Shotgun barrels were sometimes made of this. You could buy them until about the turn of the last Century. They were even available in the early Sears catalogs. Collectors don't shoot them as they are relatively unsafe and have a tendency to explode. I remember as well. I had a spanish looking twisted double barrel 410 shotgon when I was a kid. Luceo Non Uro |
| mathetes
User ID: 1207860 United States10/29/2011 07:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some great info on Damascus steel aka wootz steel [link to www.realarmorofgod.com] For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. |
| ar-15 nut
User ID: 1281306 United States10/29/2011 07:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I started a thread earlier today, and what I discovered was worth a thread of it's own. I searched for Damascus Steel on GLP, and I don't think it's been covered yet. Quoting: The Widows Son Damascus Steel: Was a term used by several Western cultures from the Medieval period onward to describe a type of steel used in swordmaking from about 300 BC to 1700 AD The original method of producing Damascus steel is not known. Due to differences in raw materials and manufacturing techniques, modern attempts to duplicate the metal have not been entirely successful. Despite this, several individuals in modern times have claimed that they have rediscovered the methods in which the original Damascus steel was produced. [link to en.wikipedia.org] A research team in Germany published a report in 2006 revealing nanowires and carbon nanotubes in a blade forged from Damascus steel,[5] which was promptly covered both by National Geographic[6] and the New York Times. Legendary Swords' Sharpness, Strength From Nanotubes, Study Says. [link to news.nationalgeographic.com] So the original method of producing Damascus steel is not known, but some German researchers found carbon nanotubes. Have we really lost our taste? Shotgun barrels were sometimes made of this. You could buy them until about the turn of the last Century. They were even available in the early Sears catalogs. Collectors don't shoot them as they are relatively unsafe and have a tendency to explode. I remember as well. I had a spanish looking twisted double barrel 410 shotgon when I was a kid. I shoot mine a 16 ga double loaded with black powder with full length brass shot shells with a over wad We are a REPUBLIC.If we can keep it MORAN! A pissed off American Veteran! |
| G. House
User ID: 4248735 Netherlands10/29/2011 07:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I started a thread earlier today, and what I discovered was worth a thread of it's own. I searched for Damascus Steel on GLP, and I don't think it's been covered yet. Quoting: The Widows Son Damascus Steel: Was a term used by several Western cultures from the Medieval period onward to describe a type of steel used in swordmaking from about 300 BC to 1700 AD The original method of producing Damascus steel is not known. Due to differences in raw materials and manufacturing techniques, modern attempts to duplicate the metal have not been entirely successful. Despite this, several individuals in modern times have claimed that they have rediscovered the methods in which the original Damascus steel was produced. [link to en.wikipedia.org] A research team in Germany published a report in 2006 revealing nanowires and carbon nanotubes in a blade forged from Damascus steel,[5] which was promptly covered both by National Geographic[6] and the New York Times. Legendary Swords' Sharpness, Strength From Nanotubes, Study Says. [link to news.nationalgeographic.com] So the original method of producing Damascus steel is not known, but some German researchers found carbon nanotubes. Have we really lost our taste? Shotgun barrels were sometimes made of this. You could buy them until about the turn of the last Century. They were even available in the early Sears catalogs. Collectors don't shoot them as they are relatively unsafe and have a tendency to explode. I remember as well. I had a spanish looking twisted double barrel 410 shotgon when I was a kid. I shoot mine a 16 ga double loaded with black powder with full length brass shot shells with a over wad I wouldn't want to be standing near you. Many cases of those barrels exploding and splintering. "Everybody lies." |
| The Widows Son
(OP) User ID: 1522782 Canada10/29/2011 07:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quote from Article: "Damascus swords, first made in the eighth century A.D., are renowned for their complex surface patterns and sharpness. According to legend, the blades can cut a piece of silk in half as it falls to the ground and maintain their edge after cleaving through stone, metal, or even other swords." Also in the journal Nature, the teams reports that it has also discovered carbon nanotubes in the sword: the first nanotubes ever found in steel, Paufler says. I thought nanotubes were a new discovery, but it appears not. Luceo Non Uro |
| goodmockingbird
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| The Widows Son
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| The Widows Son
(OP) User ID: 1522782 Canada10/29/2011 07:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Military and Hospitaller Order of St. John of Jerusalem, of Rhodes and of Malta (Knights of Malta) and the Knights Templar possessed swords made from this unique Damascus Steel.  Luceo Non Uro |
| The Widows Son
(OP) User ID: 1522782 Canada10/29/2011 08:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Damascus Steel is often considered "Crusaders' Steel", since the swords of the Knights of the Sovereign Quoting: The Widows Son Military and Hospitaller Order of St. John of Jerusalem, of Rhodes and of Malta (Knights of Malta) and the Knights Templar possessed swords made from this unique Damascus Steel.  Luceo Non Uro |
| ThereIsNoHandle
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| Judethz
User ID: 1547630 United Kingdom10/30/2011 12:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Shotgun barrels were sometimes made of this. You could buy them until about the turn of the last Century. They were even available in the early Sears catalogs. Quoting: G. House Collectors don't shoot them as they are relatively unsafe and have a tendency to explode.  Yep, I've got a facsimile of the 1897 catalogue and their in there. And like you say the steels not all that good compared to modern steel. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2535395 United States10/30/2011 01:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Honestly, give me a modern sword of forged 5160. |
| Judethz
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The UK suffered from poor quality swords in the 1700s and 1800s.