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The hatred for the OWS protests on here confuses me. Someone please explain?

 
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It's because you guys are so stupid and screwing up who and what the hell you're suppose to be protesting. If you would get it right, it might work better for you. But when you're a scum sucking commie shit bags want shit given to you, that's where you and I will go toe to toe.
I have no pity for leaches that think they deserve to be coddled by an ever-expanding beauracracy who forces others at the point of a gun and imprisonment to provide to the coddled group hard earned wages via ever increasing taxes to support an ever increasing lazy class of welfare recipients, uncreative losers and drug addicts.
I don't care if you want to sit around all day and smoke pot or become a lifetime student in art or music, JUST DON'T FORCE THE REST OF US TO PAY FOR IT!!!!
If you want to be a bum, FINE!!! I don't care. Just don't be a bum on our dime. That's what socialism looks like.
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Getting it RIGHT, would mean bringing GOD KNOWING into the equation. The video's I am watching are sad indeed. the issues should be around taxation and the like. Not what I am seeing.

What would you ones think if I suggested that the OWS is being paid for by those loyal to the Chinese Dragons, who now own the global Federal Reserve system? the people in these, seem to know little and thus can be easily manipulated. I linked a thread in a post above, use that little arrow with some very interesting video on it. One shows a commie person, for lack of a better work, coaching the people like teaching folks how to cheer lead. Its sickening. I don't know if this is common in that protest or not, but its scary, dammed scary.

While some protestors may be leeches, I suspect the majority don't know what they are talking about. Which is worse than leeching.
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OWS is a joke.
Taxing the rich even more is not the answer. They already pay more than their share of in taxes. These protesters are asking for equality? Equality my ass. How is it equality when one group of people pay 10% tax and another group has to pay 50% tax? Even should have to pay the same percentage. That's equality.

Look at the bottom of all these fucking boards. OWS is all about communism. News flash assholes. Communism is bad. Ask anybody who actually came from a communist country.
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Check your figures... The Bushy taxcuts to the rich meant that - OH NO they DON'T pay their fare share. But I agree that they SHOULD pay equally.

It's far from being a communist movement... It's about fairness and justice, especially in business practices that are chewing up the DOERS and spitting them out. The GREED is the thing man... seriously.

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Well, I'm listening to the Podcast for the first time...

Very informative for somebody who really, in their heart of hearts, wants to support this movement.

I was for the whole movement at first, just thinking anything needed to change and maybe this will be enough to 'rock the boat,' so to speak...

However, I'm on a slightly different footing now.

While, I don't agree fully with the speaker on the podcast that is still dividing things in a leftist/rightest standpoint, I do understand the point he is trying to make. And I think that's what turns a lot of Pro-OWS people off, is the use of the word "Communist" because they are used to American Propaganda using the word Communist on everything that isn't "for America." Anyway, the speaker on the podcast sort of drew a picture with his words talking about how anarchists/libertarians are on the 'rightest' end of the polarity by being those who want 'the least amount of government.' While, I don't agree necessarily with this wording, I'll play along temporarily to make my point. ;) He then compared this polarity to that of the leftist/'liberal'/communists who, in his words, want 'more government control.' While, I do agree partially with the way he has put this, I must point out that both of these extremes still connect to one, central, main source agenda. One. Not two. Never two. One. The system is designed as a trap. The polarities are designed as a trap.

If these people were truly serious: there is one option and one option only and we all know what that one option is.

Those who have opposing ideas of the current government, whether they be "utopian" ideals or not, are all being herded like cattle back into the same direction: into the system they are against. The red flag, for me, initially was the fact that the "Global Revolution" channel was/is the one "media team" that covers the OWS protests AND apparently have a vast network across the globe of "indie media outlets." Somehow, they come out of the woodwork and monopolize the coverage of all protests around the globe. They are doing exactly what they claim to be against: censoring and distorting the media surrounding this event. They are the MSM.

Again, I wish to reiterate, that I do not doubt, at all, that there are certain "good" people showing up to these protests who really want to "rock the boat" to get things going, however, this has all been planned for and if there is going to be a "revolution" on their watch, it's going to be one they have meticulously planned and 'allowed' for you to fall right into. I wish I had this handout from one professor I had in school, regarding the certain 'key ingredients' necessary for a 'tyranny stew,' but I don't so I'll paraphrase, but pretty much, there are certain economic conditions that are necessary in order to gain full control/support of a people. This is exactly how Hitler came into power. The people were desperate, there was inflation, they accused the jewish people for the loss of WWI, so here comes Hitler, ready to point the finger at the jewish people, garnering everybody's support, then the rest is history.

I'm about 40 minutes into the Podcast now and I just heard Trinity equate those that are for no government to "homeless, drug addicts." And now, I'm hearing him say that if everybody realized that their life is shit and acknowledged that they could change their lives, then things would be better for them. While I do wholly agree with the last statement, that if, yes, everybody on an individual basis 'found themselves' so to speak, then maybe we could all move forward, together, but individually because people would be more responsible for themselves. Yes, yes, I get all of that and I do fully agree. However, Trinity, you are being very hard on a group of people who have been brainwashed all of their lives and have and maybe never will stand a chance to take care of themselves because of this system. The system is an "enabler" and it must be an "enabler" because it needs a bunch of sick, twisted, hateful mother fuckers to support it's sick, twisted, hateful motives. The government IS the abusive parent, the abusive authoritarian parent that tells people "You need me to live and you would surely die if you turned against me." People are pumped into an education system they have no choice in, people are pumped into a healthcare system they have no choice in. People are being held captive mentally and spiritually. Amazing how you don't even have to use military or police force to capture an entire population ideologically. People, on a massive scale, are suffering from spiritual disease. They have been morally corrupted. They are unable to listen to the little voice inside of themselves that says "Come on, man, you know that shit is fucked up. Don't do that." They are spiritually blocked off. I could go on further, but I'll attempt to stop here.

Pretty much, the main message I have gathered from all of this is: Nothing will ever, ever change until people can let go, fully. This means everything. Nothing will ever change until people are willing to accept they may lose everything in order to move forward. Nothing will ever change as long as the people who want change want to control what change other people receive. This, Trinity, is your pitfall. Although, I do not doubt you have good intentions, you still wish to control others, as if you know what is right for them. Everybody in this world is on their own and we are on our own, together. You must be able to live and let live. You can't save everybody.
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its just not the kinda movement for me, especially in the mainstream with "support" from the people and things that they were originally protesting against.
everybody is confused, but its much better to just work on your life and perhaps include your neighbors than go to NYC and have nothing really good to say.
we all know this shits fucked up, but will EACH OF US make the change we each need, or will we complain enough until 'THEY' do something abuot it FOR us?

id rather do this thing myself.
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Trinity used to work for the military/feds so this speculation has been on going. There are entire websites devoted to Mr. Obvious and Trinity LOL.
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Including full background reports on everyone who worked in/around them all posted online.
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It's because you guys are so stupid and screwing up who and what the hell you're suppose to be protesting. If you would get it right, it might work better for you. But when you're a scum sucking commie shit bags want shit given to you, that's where you and I will go toe to toe.
I have no pity for leaches that think they deserve to be coddled by an ever-expanding beauracracy who forces others at the point of a gun and imprisonment to provide to the coddled group hard earned wages via ever increasing taxes to support an ever increasing lazy class of welfare recipients, uncreative losers and drug addicts.
I don't care if you want to sit around all day and smoke pot or become a lifetime student in art or music, JUST DON'T FORCE THE REST OF US TO PAY FOR IT!!!!
If you want to be a bum, FINE!!! I don't care. Just don't be a bum on our dime. That's what socialism looks like.
 Quoting: Thug Cat


yeah exactly. if they really cared they'd be learning how to sustain themselves. not complaining to the system that is their problem... the system will just eventually tend to their needs and make them shut up ie welfare, whatever... but thats not in the best interest of the rest of "the 99%".

i think this should be about educating yourself and doing new thignd. OWS should be a convention, a place to fucking learn, not a fucking szhitfest
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Your false and unenlightened assumptions do not add much value to grown-up discussions of differing view points. Your opinions sound like FOX talking points, however I do respect your right to express and contribute them.
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there wouldn't be any false and unenlightened assumptions if you OWSers had a message.

All I see are idiots crapping on squad cars, public nudity, drugged out interviewees, trash all over everywhere, screaming, ranting back five syllable phrases that are spoon fed to you mindless sheep, filth, and an endless parade of human debris.

Since that's all you have, who in their right mind would support you? You haven't even grown up. You're not even protesting what you SAY you protest. It's nothing but mindless rage and it's therefore meaningless.
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OWS is a joke.
Taxing the rich even more is not the answer. They already pay more than their share of in taxes. These protesters are asking for equality? Equality my ass. How is it equality when one group of people pay 10% tax and another group has to pay 50% tax? Even should have to pay the same percentage. That's equality.

Look at the bottom of all these fucking boards. OWS is all about communism. News flash assholes. Communism is bad. Ask anybody who actually came from a communist country.
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Check your figures... The Bushy taxcuts to the rich meant that - OH NO they DON'T pay their fare share. But I agree that they SHOULD pay equally.

It's far from being a communist movement... It's about fairness and justice, especially in business practices that are chewing up the DOERS and spitting them out. The GREED is the thing man... seriously.

naughty
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Oh, you mean those that 0bama and the democrats reinstated?

LOL

IDIOT!

Aren't you aware that democrats are some of the richest around. Pelosi has made a gazillion dollars since she's been in office - same with Maxine Waters. Charlie Rangel too. Did you know that Jane Harman was the richest congress person? She made well over $100 million each year.

You aren't particularly bright, are you?
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OWS is a joke.
Taxing the rich even more is not the answer. They already pay more than their share of in taxes. These protesters are asking for equality? Equality my ass. How is it equality when one group of people pay 10% tax and another group has to pay 50% tax? Even should have to pay the same percentage. That's equality.

Look at the bottom of all these fucking boards. OWS is all about communism. News flash assholes. Communism is bad. Ask anybody who actually came from a communist country.
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Check your figures... The Bushy taxcuts to the rich meant that - OH NO they DON'T pay their fare share. But I agree that they SHOULD pay equally.

It's far from being a communist movement... It's about fairness and justice, especially in business practices that are chewing up the DOERS and spitting them out. The GREED is the thing man... seriously.

naughty
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Oh, you mean those that 0bama and the democrats reinstated?

LOL

IDIOT!

Aren't you aware that democrats are some of the richest around. Pelosi has made a gazillion dollars since she's been in office - same with Maxine Waters. Charlie Rangel too. Did you know that Jane Harman was the richest congress person? She made well over $100 million each year.

You aren't particularly bright, are you?
 Quoting: N34444



Actually, I think BOTH parties are corrupt and the system needs a major overhaul.

Like it or not, those that profit off the suffering of others will get it in the end... or in their end...


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The Occupy movement is in reality a military tactic called a pincer movement. It takes some maneuvering to set up a pincer. You need two opposite forces, then move them together. The one arm of the pincer is Obama. The other arm of the pincer is the occupy protesters. Now first they need to enlarge the occupy arm. The occupy arm will get quite large, then rise up with great violence ,advance forward. Now the other arm, Obama must advance toward the occupy movement. Occupy rises up in violence so Obama must advance down..or "crack down." He does this by declaring marshall law. Then he suspends the Constitution. Our government is at that point turned inside out or has been turned from democracy to dictatorship. They are paying many of the occupy protesters to get that side of the pincer to grow. The unpaid "cannon fodder" joins the paid protesters to get a massive arm to that side of the pincer. The military will quickly obey Obama to come down on the violent protesters...unwittingly becoming the other arm of the pincer which is Obama. This is...bottom up, top down, inside out. It is a revolution using a military pincer movement.
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^ dictator for life hahahaha like stalin
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Simple! The OWS assholes are Communist, SEIU, Acorn, Union
Scum!.....................Any Questions?
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STFU and get on board.
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the media is attempting to relate the two protest groups the tea party and the OWS commies I assure you there is NO comparison what so ever.
tea party had a clear message they have stuck to all this time. LESS government, reduce the debt!

What is is the occupiers want? they have acorn sieu aflcio communists, marxists, socialists.. code pink and no one is sure what their message is. They are youth, they are drug users rapists no murderers, filth, human debrie..

tea party older retired, busines owners, housewives, farmers, decent people when they left an area there was no litter let alone the filth the OWS people are dumping around.
Tuberculosis, over doses.. what a horrid group of people!

If they have a grip about no work, college loans, banks being bailed out, seems to me the problem is in DC not wall street! IDIOTS
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people would rather do nothing. it's much safer sitting behind your computer and preaching from your soapbox.
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members like guns and hate people
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It's because you guys are so stupid and screwing up who and what the hell you're suppose to be protesting. If you would get it right, it might work better for you. But when you're a scum sucking commie shit bags want shit given to you, that's where you and I will go toe to toe.
I have no pity for leaches that think they deserve to be coddled by an ever-expanding beauracracy who forces others at the point of a gun and imprisonment to provide to the coddled group hard earned wages via ever increasing taxes to support an ever increasing lazy class of welfare recipients, uncreative losers and drug addicts.
I don't care if you want to sit around all day and smoke pot or become a lifetime student in art or music, JUST DON'T FORCE THE REST OF US TO PAY FOR IT!!!!
If you want to be a bum, FINE!!! I don't care. Just don't be a bum on our dime. That's what socialism looks like.
 Quoting: Thug Cat


So let me get this straight..

People FINALLY stand up to all the corruption in this country, and you sheep are so programed by mainstream news that they instantaneously have you believe that these people are just commie socialists? Wake up you damn fool, you're being scared with names and labels and cannot think for yourself. Open your eyes to the real issues people are protesting. (hint they as a whole are looking for SMALLER Government and NOT hand outs)
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the media is attempting to relate the two protest groups the tea party and the OWS commies I assure you there is NO comparison what so ever.
tea party had a clear message they have stuck to all this time. LESS government, reduce the debt!

What is is the occupiers want? they have acorn sieu aflcio communists, marxists, socialists.. code pink and no one is sure what their message is. They are youth, they are drug users rapists no murderers, filth, human debrie..

tea party older retired, busines owners, housewives, farmers, decent people when they left an area there was no litter let alone the filth the OWS people are dumping around.
Tuberculosis, over doses.. what a horrid group of people!

If they have a grip about no work, college loans, banks being bailed out, seems to me the problem is in DC not wall street! IDIOTS
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OWS is targeting TEA Party members and anyone speaking out against Obama. This isn't about the "99%" it is about making sure Obama stays in the White House.
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I have a feeling those against OWS were the ones who were spoiled as children.
Not nessisarily spoiled perhaps, but.... Well-To-Do.

Mommy and Daddy didn't buy me anything,
Want to guess how many years I had to work
before being able to pay for college?

Over 10 years of wake,eat, work, sleep.
Paid for apartment, got a car 4 years later...

The system is broken.
Sure I could have gotten a loan, I was smart enough to know I'd be in debt now, Which I would be.

Their parents all paid for their schooling apparently.
Since they don't seem to notice how long it takes to create that much savings.

Then there are the people who enjoy being wage slaves,
the 53%. They are pleased with being oppressed.

They don't notice they are being screwed up the azz too.
Gold Star for complacency.

"Work is supposed to pay crap and you are supposed to have 3 jobs and no family time" - the 53%

"The bankers can crash my economy while engaging in fraud, why should we complain when that effects us? We shouldn't" -the 53%

It's interesting that no one notices the 1% laughing at the 53 fighting the 99. The 1% gets away scott free!

So, anyhow- I welcome corporate rule.
Welcome to CostCo, I love you.
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The Occupy movement is in reality a military tactic called a pincer movement. It takes some maneuvering to set up a pincer. You need two opposite forces, then move them together. The one arm of the pincer is Obama. The other arm of the pincer is the occupy protesters. Now first they need to enlarge the occupy arm. The occupy arm will get quite large, then rise up with great violence ,advance forward. Now the other arm, Obama must advance toward the occupy movement. Occupy rises up in violence so Obama must advance down..or "crack down." He does this by declaring marshall law. Then he suspends the Constitution. Our government is at that point turned inside out or has been turned from democracy to dictatorship. They are paying many of the occupy protesters to get that side of the pincer to grow. The unpaid "cannon fodder" joins the paid protesters to get a massive arm to that side of the pincer. The military will quickly obey Obama to come down on the violent protesters...unwittingly becoming the other arm of the pincer which is Obama. This is...bottom up, top down, inside out. It is a revolution using a military pincer movement.
 Quoting: Dusty 544602


THIS IS WHAT YOU SAY TO SHUT DOWN ANY PROTEST.

Yes, any. Well, that protest is uh, 'hired' to uh, be 'violent' and uh, then protest will be illegal...

Paranoia will destroy ya~

The solution left in the wake of the mostly made-up nonsense paragraph above- is to submit quietly.

The people whom are trying to mud and confuse the situation, are the idiots not to listen to.
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Simple! The OWS assholes are Communist, SEIU, Acorn, Union
Scum!.....................Any Questions?
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What about all the people that are involved with or at OWS... and other places that are there for protesting the good fight .... they are involved too with the conspiracy????????? no, so STFU yourself ass .
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Simple! The OWS assholes are Communist, SEIU, Acorn, Union
Scum!.....................Any Questions?
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What about all the people that are involved with or at OWS... and other places that are there for protesting the good fight .... they are involved too with the conspiracy????????? no, so STFU yourself ass .
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How do you willow the wheat from the chaff......seriously?
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Simple! The OWS assholes are Communist, SEIU, Acorn, Union
Scum!.....................Any Questions?
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What about all the people that are involved with or at OWS... and other places that are there for protesting the good fight .... they are involved too with the conspiracy????????? no, so STFU yourself ass .
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How do you willow the wheat from the chaff......seriously?
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its simple "This is symbolic typology drawn from an actual harvest. When the harvest is brought in, it is laid on the threshing floor to dry out. Then it is beaten and winnowed to remove the grain from the chaff. This is when the grain is gathered and the chaff is blown away or consumed in a fire. The beating symbolizes the judgment process to harvest the grain."


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"This is when the grain is gathered and the chaff is blown away or consumed in a fire."



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