Recent observations on Yellowstone for serious magmatards | |
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emerald eye
(OP) Keeping an "eye out" for the truth. User ID: 1554083 United States 01/15/2012 05:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks. It looks like the "thumbnails site" is back up again: [link to isthisthingon.org] Courage forges a path through all obstacles, while fear is the obstruction of all dreams. The only way that anyone gets something for nothing, is that someone else has given up something for nothing. |
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mezroy User ID: 8617093 United States 01/15/2012 07:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was in yakima when st helens blew.The west was rumbling and then 9 in the morn she got dark like nite and the ash began scared the shit out of us. We thought we got nuked but the radio said she blew.Nobody in my area took the warning serious things could have been a helluva lot worse if she blew big.I read somewhere it blew way bigger some thousand years ago.Scary shit if you were there. Keep us posted on Yellowstone.Thanks for the post op. |
emerald eye
(OP) Keeping an "eye out" for the truth. User ID: 844228 United States 01/16/2012 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There has been quite a bit of discussion on the unusual activity of the LKWY sensor [link to isthisthingon.org] today in addition to the continuing activity at YPC and YML sensors: [link to isthisthingon.org] [link to isthisthingon.org] I am not sure if this is harmonics, it may be. I in searching further on this topic, I ran across an interesting description of "Plugs and Chugs" which I think may be applicable here more consistent with a "short duration harmonic tremor". Scroll down to see the images in the first link and they appear very similar to many that we have observed lately on the above Yellowstone seismographs: ( I am having computer problems,(new computer Win 7) It won't seem to let me cut and paste PDF links...arrrggggg!!!!) [link to www.google.com] Another name for this is "Karymsky harmonics" (Also called "Sangay harmonic tremor") described in 1998 by the "Degassing explosions at Karymsky Volcano, Kamchatka." [link to www.agu.org] [link to www.mendeley.com] Sorry, I am at work now, I will try to post more tonight. I will also post this on the pinned thread for those who might be interested. Hugs, ee Last Edited by emerald eye on 01/16/2012 04:42 PM Courage forges a path through all obstacles, while fear is the obstruction of all dreams. The only way that anyone gets something for nothing, is that someone else has given up something for nothing. |
emerald eye
(OP) Keeping an "eye out" for the truth. User ID: 844228 United States 01/16/2012 05:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Finally have a link that works (hopefully): [link to adsabs.harvard.edu] Courage forges a path through all obstacles, while fear is the obstruction of all dreams. The only way that anyone gets something for nothing, is that someone else has given up something for nothing. |
emerald eye
(OP) Keeping an "eye out" for the truth. User ID: 844228 United States 01/16/2012 05:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A better image: [link to homepage3.nifty.com] Similar patterns were seen in Sept 2011, (scroll down the page a bit) and she didn't blow then, so I am hoping that our luck continues to hold. [link to volcanogeek.wordpress.com] Last Edited by emerald eye on 01/16/2012 05:49 PM Courage forges a path through all obstacles, while fear is the obstruction of all dreams. The only way that anyone gets something for nothing, is that someone else has given up something for nothing. |
emerald eye
(OP) Keeping an "eye out" for the truth. User ID: 844228 United States 01/16/2012 08:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | U of Utah lagging behind on the LKWY sensor by about 2 hours. Local time is 18:15, see the YMR for comparison, [link to quake.utah.edu] Last update on the LKWY is the 16:00 line. [link to quake.utah.edu] Common guys, keep us current ...Please..... Courage forges a path through all obstacles, while fear is the obstruction of all dreams. The only way that anyone gets something for nothing, is that someone else has given up something for nothing. |
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emerald eye
(OP) Keeping an "eye out" for the truth. User ID: 1554083 United States 01/16/2012 09:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | U of Utah lagging behind on the LKWY sensor by about 2 hours. Quoting: emerald eye Local time is 18:15, see the YMR for comparison, [link to quake.utah.edu] Last update on the LKWY is the 16:00 line. [link to quake.utah.edu] Common guys, keep us current ...Please..... Thanks for making this current, it is much appreciated! [link to www.seis.utah.edu] Last Edited by emerald eye on 01/16/2012 09:37 PM Courage forges a path through all obstacles, while fear is the obstruction of all dreams. The only way that anyone gets something for nothing, is that someone else has given up something for nothing. |
emerald eye
(OP) Keeping an "eye out" for the truth. User ID: 1554083 United States 01/16/2012 09:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks Eerald Eye for all your hardwork and research on this. Much appreciated. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8985267 BTW: DH thought your picture was a new one of me. I was flattered but I don't know if you should be. LOL Anyway, once again, thanks a lot for all your effort. Thanks Maybe we are "long lost GLP twins" Courage forges a path through all obstacles, while fear is the obstruction of all dreams. The only way that anyone gets something for nothing, is that someone else has given up something for nothing. |
emerald eye
(OP) Keeping an "eye out" for the truth. User ID: 1554083 United States 01/17/2012 07:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A little OT but interesting nonetheless: There has been much recent discussion of unusual sounds and in researching this further I came across this website where you can listen to earthquake sounds from anywhere in the world. Cool website anyway. [link to www.flyrok.org] Courage forges a path through all obstacles, while fear is the obstruction of all dreams. The only way that anyone gets something for nothing, is that someone else has given up something for nothing. |
emerald eye
(OP) Keeping an "eye out" for the truth. User ID: 844228 United States 01/17/2012 12:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I must admit that I am breathing a sigh of relief this morning, as things seem to have quieted down at the park (for the moment anyway). LKWY today: [link to www.seis.utah.edu] LKWY yesterday: [link to quake.utah.edu] It really gets my attention whenever the LKWY sensor shows anything anomalous, as it is the one closest to the northern edge of the lake, has shown one of the highest vertical uplifts, and is closest to the to the earthquake swarm of 2009. I don't like to see anything there that could possibly represent degassing, particularly in that area. [link to www.uusatrg.utah.edu] [link to volcanoes.usgs.gov] [link to www.earthscope.org] YPC (Pelican cone) also appears to have simmered down quite a bit. This is also interesting because the winds have picked up in Yellowstone today comparatively speaking and gusts to 45 mph are expected this afternoon. One would expect the sensor to show more activity today rather than less, if the activity had been mainly related to wind noise. [link to forecast.weather.gov] YPC today: [link to quake.utah.edu] YPC yesterday: [link to quake.utah.edu] YPC two days ago: [link to quake.utah.edu] Cheers! Last Edited by emerald eye on 01/17/2012 12:50 PM Courage forges a path through all obstacles, while fear is the obstruction of all dreams. The only way that anyone gets something for nothing, is that someone else has given up something for nothing. |
emerald eye
(OP) Keeping an "eye out" for the truth. User ID: 844228 United States 01/17/2012 03:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Much much windier today on web cam as well, all of the steam is going sideways instead of up like it was yesterday. [link to www.nps.gov] It looks horribly cold and windy in Yellowstone today, we are supposed to get the cold wind tonight and tomorrow. I am working on a post about geo-neutrinos, seismic noise, and seismic intensity for later today or more realistically tomorrow. Here is a preview: [link to www.acsu.buffalo.edu] Last Edited by emerald eye on 01/17/2012 03:48 PM Courage forges a path through all obstacles, while fear is the obstruction of all dreams. The only way that anyone gets something for nothing, is that someone else has given up something for nothing. |
Gizzie
User ID: 410436 United Kingdom 01/18/2012 07:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi Emerald, Hope your ok...... Thought you might want to look at this if you haven't seen it yet..... [link to www.wired.com] Erik Klemetti claims Pelican Cone's station is broke.... Does this mean all the other sensors in the park are broken too?? [link to www.isthisthingon.org] Last Edited by Gizzie on 01/18/2012 07:14 PM |
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emerald eye
(OP) Keeping an "eye out" for the truth. User ID: 844228 United States 01/19/2012 11:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi Emerald, Hope your ok...... Quoting: Gizzie Thought you might want to look at this if you haven't seen it yet..... [link to www.wired.com] Erik Klemetti claims Pelican Cone's station is broke.... Does this mean all the other sensors in the park are broken too?? [link to www.isthisthingon.org] Hi guys, I am fine, but thanks for your concern. We didn't get any snow here, just a lot of cold wind. Yesterday my internet connection was off and on. I agree that there are some funny things going on here. The wind is not currently very great (around 4 mph at the moment) and yesterday the sustained winds were not really much over 15 mph. [link to www.wunderground.com] There were gusts that were higher but those usually only last a minute or less. Therefore I really don't think that wind accounts for much of what we were seeing yesterday, and none of what we currently see on the sensors. [link to isthisthingon.org] YPC appears once again disabled, and now the YMV, YSB, and YPK are starting to show a very similar anomalous pattern.(also to a lesser extent the YMC, YTP, YLA, YDC, and YML) I don't think that they are all at the same time "suddenly broken". I don't even see a transducer or transmitter causing this, let alone a "vibrating heater unit in a nearby shed". I am sorry, my apologies to those who are saying that type of thing, but my common sense just doesn't buy it. I m still working on my geo-neutrino post, and hope to get it up later today. I have found some very interesting information that may possibly explain some of this so called "non-seismic noise" and relationships between the geo-neutrinos and earthquake and volcano predications. Last Edited by emerald eye on 01/19/2012 12:46 PM Courage forges a path through all obstacles, while fear is the obstruction of all dreams. The only way that anyone gets something for nothing, is that someone else has given up something for nothing. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4546990 United States 01/19/2012 01:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi Emerald, Hope your ok...... Quoting: Gizzie Thought you might want to look at this if you haven't seen it yet..... [link to www.wired.com] Erik Klemetti claims Pelican Cone's station is broke.... Does this mean all the other sensors in the park are broken too?? [link to www.isthisthingon.org] Hi guys, I am fine, but thanks for your concern. We didn't get any snow here, just a lot of cold wind. Yesterday my internet connection was off and on. I agree that there are some funny things going on here. The wind is not currently very great (around 4 mph at the moment) and yesterday the sustained winds were not really much over 15 mph. [link to www.wunderground.com] There were gusts that were higher but those usually only last a minute or less. Therefore I really don't think that wind accounts for much of what we were seeing yesterday, and none of what we currently see on the sensors. [link to isthisthingon.org] YPC appears once again disabled, and now the YMV, YSB, and YPK are starting to show a very similar anomalous pattern.(also to a lesser extent the YMC, YTP, YLA, YDC, and YML) I don't think that they are all at the same time "suddenly broken". I don't even see a transducer or transmitter causing this, let alone a "vibrating heater unit in a nearby shed". I am sorry, my apologies to those who are saying that type of thing, but my common sense just doesn't buy it. I m still working on my geo-neutrino post, and hope to get it up later today. I have found some very interesting information that may possibly explain some of this so called "non-seismic noise" and relationships between the geo-neutrinos and earthquake and volcano predications. I came to post about the activity you mentioned. [link to www.isthisthingon.org] Thats YMV, YSB, YPK like you said, pelican cone went down yesterday and mirror lake isn't working. With YTP, YMC, YLA, YDC, YML all showing activity at the same time that is eight seismographs (that are working) showing the same thing. I don't think that is "wind, snow, animals" like people toss around whenever you mention yellowstone. |
jharrison12133 User ID: 8943596 United States 01/19/2012 02:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look Emerald Eye YMV YHB YSB AND YPK are also going off the charts i really don't think they could all be messing up like this. [link to www.isthisthingon.org] |
emerald eye
(OP) Keeping an "eye out" for the truth. User ID: 844228 United States 01/19/2012 02:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, and now YHB joins in the chorus also: [link to quake.utah.edu] [link to isthisthingon.org] Last Edited by emerald eye on 01/19/2012 02:00 PM Courage forges a path through all obstacles, while fear is the obstruction of all dreams. The only way that anyone gets something for nothing, is that someone else has given up something for nothing. |
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emerald eye
(OP) Keeping an "eye out" for the truth. User ID: 844228 United States 01/19/2012 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only ones that are not showing hardly any thing are YPC YMP YHH and YPP. Quoting: jharrison12133 8943596 I can't really think of any really good explanation for this except magma, and I don't even want to think about that as a possibility. It may not mean an eruption, but I think that magma is on the move, and not just in an isolated area. I am open to any other reasonable ideas for consideration.... [link to isthisthingon.org] Current wind speed 11mph: [link to www.wunderground.com] Courage forges a path through all obstacles, while fear is the obstruction of all dreams. The only way that anyone gets something for nothing, is that someone else has given up something for nothing. |
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emerald eye
(OP) Keeping an "eye out" for the truth. User ID: 844228 United States 01/19/2012 02:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wow, I just looked at isthisthingon.org and now my coffee is all over my keyboard. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7885281 I have been doing this all morning: Courage forges a path through all obstacles, while fear is the obstruction of all dreams. The only way that anyone gets something for nothing, is that someone else has given up something for nothing. |
zacksavage
User ID: 9153830 United States 01/19/2012 03:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only ones that are not showing hardly any thing are YPC YMP YHH and YPP. Quoting: jharrison12133 8943596 I can't really think of any really good explanation for this except magma, and I don't even want to think about that as a possibility. It may not mean an eruption, but I think that magma is on the move, and not just in an isolated area. I am open to any other reasonable ideas for consideration.... [link to isthisthingon.org] Current wind speed 11mph: [link to www.wunderground.com] Interesting. Z Free your mind,...your ass will follow. --- parliament funkadelic |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4546990 United States 01/19/2012 03:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Activity seems to be dropped off on most of the seismographs. The question is what caused such strong activity to be seen on eight seismographs across yellowstone at the same time for three hours. If it was magma can we expect some magnitude of earthquake? If things have shifted/moved underground on a larger scale what kind of changes would we see now? Greater land deformation? |
emerald eye
(OP) Keeping an "eye out" for the truth. User ID: 844228 United States 01/19/2012 03:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Activity seems to be dropped off on most of the seismographs. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4546990 The question is what caused such strong activity to be seen on eight seismographs across yellowstone at the same time for three hours. If it was magma can we expect some magnitude of earthquake? If things have shifted/moved underground on a larger scale what kind of changes would we see now? Greater land deformation? I would love to know what current underground feature temperatures are, and also what the current CO2 and sulfur dioxide readings are. Ground deformation and changes in hydrothermal activity are also important clues. I have been watching the web cam geyser activity, it seems a bit active right now, but nothing startling. [link to www.nps.gov] [link to www.indjst.org] Yes it does seem to be settling down a bit. Courage forges a path through all obstacles, while fear is the obstruction of all dreams. The only way that anyone gets something for nothing, is that someone else has given up something for nothing. |
Starwind
User ID: 4546990 United States 01/19/2012 03:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Activity seems to be dropped off on most of the seismographs. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4546990 The question is what caused such strong activity to be seen on eight seismographs across yellowstone at the same time for three hours. If it was magma can we expect some magnitude of earthquake? If things have shifted/moved underground on a larger scale what kind of changes would we see now? Greater land deformation? I would love to know what current underground feature temperatures are, and also what the current CO2 and sulfur dioxide readings are. Ground deformation and changes in hydrothermal activity are also important clues. I have been watching the web cam geyser activity, it seems a bit active right now, but nothing startling. [link to www.nps.gov] [link to www.indjst.org] Yes it does seem to be settling down a bit. What I'm noticing is that a lot more people are having to blame things on snow, wind, cars or animals at yellowstone in relation to the seismographs than I have seen in awhile. If the magma is a few kilometers below the surface, what particular magnitude of EQ should we be worried about? 5.0s around the caldera? |
Jenny User ID: 7885281 United States 01/19/2012 03:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Activity seems to be dropped off on most of the seismographs. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4546990 The question is what caused such strong activity to be seen on eight seismographs across yellowstone at the same time for three hours. If it was magma can we expect some magnitude of earthquake? If things have shifted/moved underground on a larger scale what kind of changes would we see now? Greater land deformation? I would love to know what current underground feature temperatures are, and also what the current CO2 and sulfur dioxide readings are. Ground deformation and changes in hydrothermal activity are also important clues. I have been watching the web cam geyser activity, it seems a bit active right now, but nothing startling. [link to www.nps.gov] [link to www.indjst.org] Yes it does seem to be settling down a bit. Oh thank you for posting those links!!, I was searching everywhere for them :-) |