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Lester User ID: 3567071 United States 10/20/2011 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You really ought have all your family's food needs met for at least a year. Not safe to be chasing protein out in the woods, away from your family. If you do have to resort to hunting, use snares and other traps to increase your odds. Archery is great fun and a good skill, but inferior to firearms. Not a lot of meat on deer smaller than elk. |
General Troll, US Shillitary
(OP) User ID: 1307432 United States 10/20/2011 01:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You really ought have all your family's food needs met for at least a year. Not safe to be chasing protein out in the woods, away from your family. If you do have to resort to hunting, use snares and other traps to increase your odds. Quoting: Lester 3567071 Archery is great fun and a good skill, but inferior to firearms. Not a lot of meat on deer smaller than elk. Agreed. I look at hunting as a way to supplement my supplies already in place. I'm not depending on it alone for survival. As a matter of fact, one of the reasons I started this thread was so others could see that it is more difficult than it appears on the surface. Trapping is another skill that I am looking into as well. Less energy expended, better chances of catching something if it's done well. Guns really are the most efficient way to hunt, but I wanted to focus on the benefits of a bow "What you have just said, is the most insanely idiotic thing I have ever heard. At no point, in your rambling incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul." |
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User ID: 660580 United States 10/20/2011 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You really ought have all your family's food needs met for at least a year. Not safe to be chasing protein out in the woods, away from your family. If you do have to resort to hunting, use snares and other traps to increase your odds. Quoting: Lester 3567071 Archery is great fun and a good skill, but inferior to firearms. Not a lot of meat on deer smaller than elk. Agreed. I look at hunting as a way to supplement my supplies already in place. I'm not depending on it alone for survival. As a matter of fact, one of the reasons I started this thread was so others could see that it is more difficult than it appears on the surface. Trapping is another skill that I am looking into as well. Less energy expended, better chances of catching something if it's done well. Guns really are the most efficient way to hunt, but I wanted to focus on the benefits of a bow Never tried it, but I imagine it's a lot harder than using a rifle. I have a nice Bear Recurve bow and would probably use it instead of the Mosin in a SHTF scenario for stealth reasons. Also to conserve ammo. I guess I should get out this year and give it a shot. |
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User ID: 1281306 United States 10/20/2011 01:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have shot many deer with my bow 1 thing is only draw when they are looking away from you .And get string silencers aka cat whiskers so they do not jump the string when you release the string We are a REPUBLIC.If we can keep it MORAN! A pissed off American Veteran! |
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General Troll, US Shillitary
(OP) User ID: 1307432 United States 10/20/2011 01:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wrong. traps and snare lines are. with a gun you must be present for each kill. traps and snares are only set then checked and harvested. they are much more efficient than firearms. Good point "What you have just said, is the most insanely idiotic thing I have ever heard. At no point, in your rambling incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul." |
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General Troll, US Shillitary
(OP) User ID: 1307432 United States 10/20/2011 01:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | lol Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3140667 gonna git yur bow? lol these kinda dorks will be like the easies to brush aside by normal people lol I can make pink mist @ 500 meters, but if you think that a bow is the only thing in my arsenal, that's not a bad thing... For me. "What you have just said, is the most insanely idiotic thing I have ever heard. At no point, in your rambling incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul." |
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User ID: 3694251 United States 10/20/2011 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "I may not agree with what you say, but I would defend to the death your right to say it." Voltaire "Facts do not cease to exist just because they are ignored." Aldous Huxley |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2536942 United States 10/20/2011 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | lol Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3140667 gonna git yur bow? lol these kinda dorks will be like the easies to brush aside by normal people lol I would think that the arrogant people would be the easiest to deal with, you already know what they are about. They are lazy and unwilling to work to improve their situation, they always just take, so the only way to deal with them is to take. This guy is offering something here to benefit the team and your arrogance shows what type of person he would be dealing with if SHTF. I would like to learn from someone like this but I am also ready to deal with the arrogant mentalities that would surface in dire straights!!! During a week long power outage in South Florida with everything out of power for 2-3 days except for just a couple places with generators, people went insane. The power started coming back on day 4 to isolated areas and some places did not get power back for over a month, but the majority was around 1 week. In this situation the first day people were driving around downed trees and power lines to make sure their friends/family was safe and everyone was like "oh we will be ok, its not that big of a deal". On day 2 they were beginning to change and became pretty nasty. But on day 3 everything changed and the same people that were really nice about everything on day 1 became nasty and mean. They werent even hungry they just didnt have power or convenyence. By day 4 they were ready to kill and thats when the stores starting dealing with these idiots and their arrogance! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1284302 United States 10/20/2011 01:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With a bow and arrow you will probably injure 99% of the animals and they will suffer a slow and painful death from infected wounds. Get a good rifle. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1390775 We had some local Indians and White Indian Wannabes in our area a few years ago who bought a buffalo (absolutely legal, the animal was part of a legally owned herd raised for meat). They decided the most respectful way to kill it was with bows and arrows--the "traditional" way. It didn't go well at all, for either the buffalo, the Indians or the White Indian Wannabes. In fact, it went so damned poorly that an old Indian in town (a non-participant in the debacle) got disgusted, grabbed his rifle, and ended the beast's misery. Everyone who participated in the pseudo-spiritual fiasco is still ashamed and apologetic for having done so. |
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Miss H.
User ID: 1544309 United States 10/20/2011 01:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If anyone is interested I came across a free ebook on amazon for bow hunting [link to www.amazon.com] You have to get the kindle app to read it on the pc (or whatever) but that's free on amazon too ~humans are such strange creatures some are capable of kindness beyond that of angels ... others commit acts that would put a demon to shame~ |
General Troll, US Shillitary
(OP) User ID: 1327691 United States 10/20/2011 02:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What kind of bow are you using? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3147554 Get a recurve bow. You can restring your bow very easily if something were to happen to it I have a Samick "Hawkeye" take down recurve @ 60#'s "What you have just said, is the most insanely idiotic thing I have ever heard. At no point, in your rambling incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 554016 United States 10/20/2011 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The best thing about the bow is how quite they are. With the technology in the forces today a singel gunshot can be pinpointed to a few feet. But dont think you can reuse arrows when in the field. 1. If miss you will be looking for your arrow for hours. 2. If you hit something large it will run off with the arrow. Tracking down the animal after it has been shot takes alot of skill. They can run for miles even with a good shot. Running through thick forest will often damage the arrow too. 3. if you hit something small you will likely hit a bone and bend/break the arrow. Building your own arrows without a lathe is very difficult. Building your own bow is even harder. Dont get me wrong, a bow is an excellent shtf tool, but you really have to know what your doing. |
Jane Smith
Forum Administrator User ID: 1215902 United States 10/20/2011 02:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wrong. traps and snare lines are. with a gun you must be present for each kill. traps and snares are only set then checked and harvested. they are much more efficient than firearms. Good point My grandmaother caught a rabbit almost every day with a simple wooden "rabbit gum" that looked like a large shoe box with a drop door that was triggered when the critter entered to check out whateven goodie she baited it with. One word of caution: She did catch a skunk from time to time. Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |
Jane Smith
Forum Administrator User ID: 1215902 United States 10/20/2011 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | lol Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3140667 gonna git yur bow? lol these kinda dorks will be like the easies to brush aside by normal people lol I can make pink mist @ 500 meters, but if you think that a bow is the only thing in my arsenal, that's not a bad thing... For me. ... and if he gets too close to my family WTSHTF, he will not realize what just happened while his head, conscious for about 5 seconds, is on the ground wondering why it just fell off it's shoulders. With that said, 12 years olds should be in school. Go away AC. Last Edited by LJS on 10/20/2011 02:14 PM Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |
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Jane Smith
Forum Administrator User ID: 1215902 United States 10/20/2011 02:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you can have all the skills but will Quoting: Anonymous Coward 946895 also need a good dog and also to learn to check for symptoms of disease in the critters you're hunting. and if bow hunting best to carry a gun as well. Whenever my Grandfather killed a deer he always examined the liver closely. he said if it had white spots, was discolored or darkened, that meant the meat was bad. I never saw a bad liver, maybe someone who has could shed some light on what my Grandfather was talking about? I do know that he insisted that all game be cooked very well done. No medium rare stuff like we do with our beef steaks. Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |
General Troll, US Shillitary
(OP) User ID: 1327691 United States 10/20/2011 03:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you can have all the skills but will Quoting: Anonymous Coward 946895 also need a good dog and also to learn to check for symptoms of disease in the critters you're hunting. and if bow hunting best to carry a gun as well. Great point. I know chronic wasting disease is a problem in many parts of the country. It's smart to know the signs if you are unable to have the animal tested. "What you have just said, is the most insanely idiotic thing I have ever heard. At no point, in your rambling incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul." |
General Troll, US Shillitary
(OP) User ID: 1327691 United States 10/20/2011 03:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The best thing about the bow is how quite they are. With the technology in the forces today a singel gunshot can be pinpointed to a few feet. Quoting: Anonymous CowardBut dont think you can reuse arrows when in the field. 1. If miss you will be looking for your arrow for hours. 2. If you hit something large it will run off with the arrow. Tracking down the animal after it has been shot takes alot of skill. They can run for miles even with a good shot. Running through thick forest will often damage the arrow too. 3. if you hit something small you will likely hit a bone and bend/break the arrow. Building your own arrows without a lathe is very difficult. Building your own bow is even harder. Dont get me wrong, a bow is an excellent shtf tool, but you really have to know what your doing. That's why I posted the thread. Great info. Last Edited by General Troll, US Shillitary on 10/20/2011 03:12 PM "What you have just said, is the most insanely idiotic thing I have ever heard. At no point, in your rambling incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1549773 United States 10/20/2011 03:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have shot many deer with my bow 1 thing is only draw when Quoting: ar-15 nut they are looking away from you .And get string silencers aka cat whiskers so they do not jump the string when you release the string hello...they don't jump the string...it's been proven with video and slow motion that whitetail hear the arrow in flight...they used to say jumping the string....just wanted to let you know updated facts...they also see the color blue like we do flow orange....and never hunt turkey with white fletchings... proud owner of Mathews..."catch us if you can"! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1549773 United States 10/20/2011 03:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you can have all the skills but will Quoting: Anonymous Coward 946895 also need a good dog and also to learn to check for symptoms of disease in the critters you're hunting. and if bow hunting best to carry a gun as well. ummmm....some states don't allow a gun while bow hunting....better check your states laws first |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1549773 United States 10/20/2011 03:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The best thing about the bow is how quite they are. With the technology in the forces today a singel gunshot can be pinpointed to a few feet. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 554016 But dont think you can reuse arrows when in the field. 1. If miss you will be looking for your arrow for hours. 2. If you hit something large it will run off with the arrow. Tracking down the animal after it has been shot takes alot of skill. They can run for miles even with a good shot. Running through thick forest will often damage the arrow too. 3. if you hit something small you will likely hit a bone and bend/break the arrow. Building your own arrows without a lathe is very difficult. Building your own bow is even harder. Dont get me wrong, a bow is an excellent shtf tool, but you really have to know what your doing. There are no laws about reuse of arrows...but yes, they can get damaged...mostly from pigs or just missing altogether...arrows today are carbon and very strong compared to the old aluminum...we get guys in the archery shop all the time who bring in arrows with blood on them...that is what you really need to watch...bleach em down if you are going to reuse after a harvest...I knew a kid that ended up with hep. and died from a bloody arrow. |