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World population....stunning evidence for an Earth that is no more than 10,000 years old.

 
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the bible is nothing more than a collection of 'much older stories from older civilizations.

readup here earth-history.com
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The difference between evolution and Creationism is that evolution is real and Creationism is not real. Creationism is based on the Bible that says that God created the world in 6 days about 10,000 years ago. Clearly the world was not created in 6 days about 10,000 years ago, so therefore the Bible is just plain wrong. If the world were merely 10,000 years old then how do you explain the dinosaurs that are millions of years old? We've discovered life fossils that date back billions of years. Even the skeletons of modern humans date back before the time of Adam and Eve.

If we were to believe the Bible, then we would have to believe the Earth was created before the stars, which is the wrong order. If the stars were created 10,000 years ago, we wouldn't be able to see stars that are more than 10,000 light years away. That's because if a star was further away than 10,000 light years, the light from that star wouldn't have got here yet. Our galaxy alone is about 100,000 light years across. If the Bible were true, we wouldn't be able to see but 1/10th the way across our own galaxy. We surely wouldn't be able to see other galaxies or galactic clusters or know that the universe is expanding.

Our modern technology has proved the Bible wrong. That means that if there is a God, he didn't write the Bible and the Bible is not his word. If the Bible were the word of God and the Bible is wrong, then God is wrong. And if God can't be wrong, then the Bible, which is wrong, can't be the word of God.

Men who lived thousands of years ago wrote the Bible. The authors had limited knowledge of the nature of the universe and wrote the Bible based on what they believed at the time. They didn't know the Earth was round and that it orbited the Sun, which is a star among billions of stars in the galaxy, which is but one galaxy in billions of galaxies that have existed for billions of years. To them, the world was flat. There was up and there was down and God lived in the sky. They didn't know the world was round and there was no such thing as "up". They didn't know that the sky was a thin layer of gas that surrounds the surface of this planet. We have been to the sky and we have been above the sky and God isn't living there.
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Go and read the fuggen post before you regurgitate utter rubbish that is already debunked moran.
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HAHA! just admit it you cant accept it!
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If you would care to actually read the post you will discover that I have already trampled all over your stupid unthoughtful considerations.

Your reply is redundant.
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Dinosaurs...well they also fit nicely in this time frame....they got wipped out in noahs flood....hence the fossils.
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so why exactly werent they put on the boat?
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Go and re read where Ive already covered this.
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yeah you said they died in the flood.
so why were they not put on the boat?
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the bible is nothing more than a collection of 'much older stories from older civilizations.

readup here earth-history.com
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The bible is an accurate account of what really happened.

Read up here [link to www.biblegateway.com]
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so why exactly werent they put on the boat?
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Go and re read where Ive already covered this.
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yeah you said they died in the flood.
so why were they not put on the boat?
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I also said that some were put on the ark.

Now go back and read it....nothing worse then having to repeat yourself in typing format.
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Re: World population....stunning evidence for an Earth that is no more than 10,000 years old.
The difference between evolution and Creationism is that evolution is real and Creationism is not real. Creationism is based on the Bible that says that God created the world in 6 days about 10,000 years ago. Clearly the world was not created in 6 days about 10,000 years ago, so therefore the Bible is just plain wrong. If the world were merely 10,000 years old then how do you explain the dinosaurs that are millions of years old? We've discovered life fossils that date back billions of years. Even the skeletons of modern humans date back before the time of Adam and Eve.

If we were to believe the Bible, then we would have to believe the Earth was created before the stars, which is the wrong order. If the stars were created 10,000 years ago, we wouldn't be able to see stars that are more than 10,000 light years away. That's because if a star was further away than 10,000 light years, the light from that star wouldn't have got here yet. Our galaxy alone is about 100,000 light years across. If the Bible were true, we wouldn't be able to see but 1/10th the way across our own galaxy. We surely wouldn't be able to see other galaxies or galactic clusters or know that the universe is expanding.

Our modern technology has proved the Bible wrong. That means that if there is a God, he didn't write the Bible and the Bible is not his word. If the Bible were the word of God and the Bible is wrong, then God is wrong. And if God can't be wrong, then the Bible, which is wrong, can't be the word of God.

Men who lived thousands of years ago wrote the Bible. The authors had limited knowledge of the nature of the universe and wrote the Bible based on what they believed at the time. They didn't know the Earth was round and that it orbited the Sun, which is a star among billions of stars in the galaxy, which is but one galaxy in billions of galaxies that have existed for billions of years. To them, the world was flat. There was up and there was down and God lived in the sky. They didn't know the world was round and there was no such thing as "up". They didn't know that the sky was a thin layer of gas that surrounds the surface of this planet. We have been to the sky and we have been above the sky and God isn't living there.
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Go and read the fuggen post before you regurgitate utter rubbish that is already debunked moran.
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HAHA! just admit it you cant accept it!
 Quoting: See1234


If you would care to actually read the post you will discover that I have already trampled all over your stupid unthoughtful considerations.

Your reply is redundant.
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Both Creationism and Evolution FAIL to explain our existence in and of themselves; therefore, we argue one versus the other as we are too base to think beyond the box that is our own petty existence. Another way people smarter than us can create control...
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Go and read the fuggen post before you regurgitate utter rubbish that is already debunked moran.
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HAHA! just admit it you cant accept it!
 Quoting: See1234


If you would care to actually read the post you will discover that I have already trampled all over your stupid unthoughtful considerations.

Your reply is redundant.
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Both Creationism and Evolution FAIL to explain our existence in and of themselves; therefore, we argue one versus the other as we are too base to think beyond the box that is our own petty existence. Another way people smarter than us can create control...
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Im not asking for creationism to justify our existence!!!

I'm asking that you explain and justify why it is taught as fact that the Earth is 4,000,000 years old and yet we only have a paling population in contrast.

Stick to the topic mmmk

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Re: World population....stunning evidence for an Earth that is no more than 10,000 years old.
you obviously have not read the link a gave u , there are tons of evidence the bible is a collection of older stories from MUCH older civilizations so read it.

[link to earth-history.com]

one story is the story of the great flood , the sumerians already had knowledge of that story and that was more than 10.000 years BC. so keep ignoring the facts stupid
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Re: World population....stunning evidence for an Earth that is no more than 10,000 years old.
you obviously have not read the link a gave u , there are tons of evidence the bible is a collection of older stories from MUCH older civilizations so read it.

[link to earth-history.com]

one story is the story of the great flood , the sumerians already had knowledge of that story and that was more than 10.000 years BC. so keep ignoring the facts stupid
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Same flood story as Noahs!!!! There was only one Global flood...all the rest of the stories are chinese whispers.
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The bible is an accurate account of what really happened.

Read up here [link to www.biblegateway.com]
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lmao
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you obviously have not read the link a gave u , there are tons of evidence the bible is a collection of older stories from MUCH older civilizations so read it.

[link to earth-history.com]

one story is the story of the great flood , the sumerians already had knowledge of that story and that was more than 10.000 years BC. so keep ignoring the facts stupid
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Same flood story as Noahs!!!! There was only one Global flood...all the rest of the stories are chinese whispers.
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u must be a troll. rockon
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you obviously have not read the link a gave u , there are tons of evidence the bible is a collection of older stories from MUCH older civilizations so read it.

[link to earth-history.com]

one story is the story of the great flood , the sumerians already had knowledge of that story and that was more than 10.000 years BC. so keep ignoring the facts stupid
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Same flood story as Noahs!!!! There was only one Global flood...all the rest of the stories are chinese whispers.
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u must be a troll. rockon
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I dont even know what a troll is.
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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According to that definition...I guess I am...but this thread is not off topic........perhaps you would like to consider it as a part of the lunatic fringe.
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Re: World population....stunning evidence for an Earth that is no more than 10,000 years old.
The reason for our tremendous increase in population is all due to oil. Oil has brought us plastics, medicines, pesticides for better crops. Energy for warm homes and transportation. If the OP decides to become more educated on this, they can look here.
[link to www.theoildrum.com]
Notice the population charts against the discovery of oil and it's uses. Once the oil runs out, so will our population. It isn't easy to live when it's 20 below zero and you have no stores to shop at and no furnace to keep you warm. Before the early 1900's, people lived like we are expecting to someday again after TSHTF. Many will die. Few of the young will survive. It will be a tough life.
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Oh look oil is responsible for penises entering vaginas.
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No.... its responsible for human survivability. Tard.
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HAHA! just admit it you cant accept it!
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If you would care to actually read the post you will discover that I have already trampled all over your stupid unthoughtful considerations.

Your reply is redundant.
 Quoting: daretospeak


Both Creationism and Evolution FAIL to explain our existence in and of themselves; therefore, we argue one versus the other as we are too base to think beyond the box that is our own petty existence. Another way people smarter than us can create control...
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Im not asking for creationism to justify our existence!!!

I'm asking that you explain and justify why it is taught as fact that the Earth is 4,000,000 years old and yet we only have a paling population in contrast.

Stick to the topic mmmk
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I don't think that a population of 7 billion is 'Paling', but it may help you in your quest to get some of the talking points straight. The oldest dinosaurs according to the USGS (if you trust them) are 230,000,000 years old so your 4,000,000 age figure is odd.Where are you getting your figures?

[link to pubs.usgs.gov]

The oldest mammals date to 52 million years ago...

[link to www.pbs.org]

Additionally, the staunchest Christians say the earth is only 6,000 years old, not 10,000. This may date to the 'recreation' of humanity after the great flood.

What to believe?
What sources to trust? The Gov?...The Bible?...and the $64 question...Do you know how to think beyond that which you have been taught?
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HAHA! just admit it you cant accept it!
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If you would care to actually read the post you will discover that I have already trampled all over your stupid unthoughtful considerations.

Your reply is redundant.
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Both Creationism and Evolution FAIL to explain our existence in and of themselves; therefore, we argue one versus the other as we are too base to think beyond the box that is our own petty existence. Another way people smarter than us can create control...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2944025


Im not asking for creationism to justify our existence!!!

I'm asking that you explain and justify why it is taught as fact that the Earth is 4,000,000 years old and yet we only have a paling population in contrast.

Stick to the topic mmmk
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Just to add to your fail...

Even IF the earth was only 10,000 years old. What about the universe? Science has already determined stars to be billions of years old. You can not prove physics wrong bro. To do so would be to go against god's "game engine" that is called life & existence.
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Re: World population....stunning evidence for an Earth that is no more than 10,000 years old.
you obviously have not read the link a gave u , there are tons of evidence the bible is a collection of older stories from MUCH older civilizations so read it.

[link to earth-history.com]

one story is the story of the great flood , the sumerians already had knowledge of that story and that was more than 10.000 years BC. so keep ignoring the facts stupid
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The sumerians also acknowledged ETs as these so called Gods. Hence my mention of the cargo cult. If you're not retarded its not hard to connect the dots.

Jesus and his tales ate nothing more than cheap knock offs of the stories of horus and the tales before him. Almost identical!
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If you would care to actually read the post you will discover that I have already trampled all over your stupid unthoughtful considerations.

Your reply is redundant.
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Both Creationism and Evolution FAIL to explain our existence in and of themselves; therefore, we argue one versus the other as we are too base to think beyond the box that is our own petty existence. Another way people smarter than us can create control...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2944025


Im not asking for creationism to justify our existence!!!

I'm asking that you explain and justify why it is taught as fact that the Earth is 4,000,000 years old and yet we only have a paling population in contrast.

Stick to the topic mmmk
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I don't think that a population of 7 billion is 'Paling', but it may help you in your quest to get some of the talking points straight. The oldest dinosaurs according to the USGS (if you trust them) are 230,000,000 years old so your 4,000,000 age figure is odd.Where are you getting your figures? I was being generous (not really hahaha I had no idea that people actually considered that figure hahahah thats hilarious)........230,000,000 just highlights beyond how rediculose it is to think that after ALL that time there could even be a fossil, let alone a mere 7 billion population figure.

[link to pubs.usgs.gov]

The oldest mammals date to 52 million years ago...chuckle and you refuse to call them dinosaurs hahaha even old people are refered to as dinosaurs.

[link to www.pbs.org]

Additionally, the staunchest Christians say the earth is only 6,000 years old, not 10,000. I said, "no more than 10,000 years, I also lean towards the 6,000 year period. This may date to the 'recreation' of humanity after the great flood.

What to believe?
What sources to trust? The Gov?...The Bible?...and the $64 question...Do you know how to think beyond that which you have been taught? I moved on way further than what I have been taught by man...and I can assure you the mojority of what I believe has been revealed to me by none other than God Himself.
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If you would care to actually read the post you will discover that I have already trampled all over your stupid unthoughtful considerations.

Your reply is redundant.
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Both Creationism and Evolution FAIL to explain our existence in and of themselves; therefore, we argue one versus the other as we are too base to think beyond the box that is our own petty existence. Another way people smarter than us can create control...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2944025


Im not asking for creationism to justify our existence!!!

I'm asking that you explain and justify why it is taught as fact that the Earth is 4,000,000 years old and yet we only have a paling population in contrast.

Stick to the topic mmmk
 Quoting: daretospeak


Just to add to your fail...

Even IF the earth was only 10,000 years old. What about the universe? Science has already determined stars to be billions of years old. You can not prove physics wrong bro. To do so would be to go against god's "game engine" that is called life & existence.
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Science has lied about the age of the Earth!!!!!!!!! WHY would you believe them about the age of the universe?

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you obviously have not read the link a gave u , there are tons of evidence the bible is a collection of older stories from MUCH older civilizations so read it.

[link to earth-history.com]

one story is the story of the great flood , the sumerians already had knowledge of that story and that was more than 10.000 years BC. so keep ignoring the facts stupid
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The sumerians also acknowledged ETs as these so called Gods. Hence my mention of the cargo cult. If you're not retarded its not hard to connect the dots.

Jesus and his tales ate nothing more than cheap knock offs of the stories of horus and the tales before him. Almost identical!
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Fabricated lies...they got their stories from the Holy transcripts.

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science is lying and the bible is telling the truth? norespect
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science is lying and the bible is telling the truth? norespect
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You got that right.
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Re: World population....stunning evidence for an Earth that is no more than 10,000 years old.
You have no idea about the big disaster 12000 years ago do you? If almost extincted human kind and did extinct other things. If you need the godking religions spin version read the bible under the section regarding Noahs flood. If you want more details read Zacharia Sitchens summerian translations. If you just want a earth sciences geology evidence version then look up all the evidence on incineration, epic floods, extinction and meteor pelleting that all coincidentally happened at the same time.

THEN research further into this and you will find out this has happened at least 4 times to humans. Antarctica believe it or not used to be a major center of technology and agriculture. Do some research to figure out why it is now a south polar location.
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Oh 12000 years ago huh. People have grown into the billions in 12000 years, but not before the big disaster, right. Or since it was millions of years up to the 12000 year old disaster, would'nt the population have been enormous at the time of big disater. Where is the proof of billions of human bodies. A few hundred thousand or even a million dinosaurs are showing up all of the time here and there, but no deposits of mens bones totalling into the billions have been discoverd. Numbers-Math-you do the numbers.
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Are we bored with the Truth yet?
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Can you show the calculations?

Math is not my strong point.

How do you arrive at 10,000?
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Well I believe it is only about 6000 years based on the Biblical account of creation. From Adam to arround the year 2000.
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putin

you cannot be serious!
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Can you show the calculations?

Math is not my strong point.

How do you arrive at 10,000?
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Well I believe it is only about 6000 years based on the Biblical account of creation. From Adam to arround the year 2000.
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putin

you cannot be serious!
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Very serious
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Re: World population....stunning evidence for an Earth that is no more than 10,000 years old.
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Millions of years of this and we would have no land left morans hahahahaha
Galatians 2:20 I have been crucified with Christ, it is no longer I that live, but Christ now lives in me and the life I live in the flesh, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.





GLP