Political/economic systems brainstorm thread: Are we in need of a *new* system or should we stick with the old ones?

The same system we currently have and will always have:
Hurray for me and Shit on you.

That's the way it always was and that's the way it will always be. You can name it whatever you want...

do you think our system will be this way 1000 years from now? i don't. i imagine it will be something like the venus project.

I propose a benevolent dictatorship to be followed by a reboot to direct democracy and elimination of the current monetary system to be replaced by a pre ww1 germany style humanist banking system which was actually the reason for ww1 btw.

Lobying and special interest will be banned from all politics. Majority rule, end of story. Politicians will be a thing of the past to be replaced by public servants who impartially present issues to be voted on directly.

Their will no longer be political parties, the concept is flawed and divisive and is a tool of the soon to be PTW.

No one ever involved in Gov't or banking currently may ever participate in either of the new system.

Elections are held online as well as campaigning for public service positions and that only sponsored by equal sums of funds from the gov't sector.

Corporate law is eliminated, strict guidelines enforced upon any business of substantial size. The word Corporation will no longer exist to be replaced by the term enterprize and it will apply to any business with shareholders.

Excessive wealth at a level yet to be determined but I'm thinking around Ten Milish relative to the new currency will be taxed at a 100% rate. No single person should ever weild that much power except me lol and only temporarily.

Their will be no IRS or income tax. Only tax on profits of business and enterprizes and that flat, no loopholes, no exception. Large religious organizations will be classified as an enterprize and will also be taxed. Small local unafilliated groups of 200 or less will be exempt though again excessive wealth will be taxed at 100%.

I volunteer as benevolent dictator and will hand pick ten cabinet members of high moral value who can overide me by a 2/3 majority if they ever feel the need.

My term is limited to ten years or less as required for the proper reboot.

Rediculous Right?

Thats what it would take, a benevolent dictatorship is the most effective form of government but it's going to take a military coup to get us there.



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Everything begins with culture folks, the problem with America/world is the elites have forced an unnatural culture on the people and are causing racial strife and hatred. People left alone naturally gravitate to their own. When was the last time you heard of a white family looking for a black or Mexican neighborhood to live in. When was the last time you heard of a black or mexican looking for a white church to worship in. The problem with America is that it has become multicultural therefore the result of that is its also become materialistic and therefore has lost its cultural roots. This causes the people to seek economic solutions to its cultural problems. Thats like getting an aspirin for a severed arm. It may temporarily feel better but it will not cure the problem.

We need to divide America up into racial states with one multicultural state.

Blacks would have their own place so if they wanted to riot, they could riot against themselves. If they wanted to continue their racial victimhood, they could bitch at their own leaders.

Asians with their own turf.

Give Mexico back a chunk of the southwest therefore the mexicans could stop bitching we took their land and they could ruin that chuck of real estate.

Give the whites the South and midwest.

Then make the Northeast a multicultural nation so those folks who still want to live that way would get what they want.

Every state would have its own seaport for global trade.


Folks, for those paying attention, America is the prime example of a failed multicultural nation. We must stop forcing people to live with others they do not wish to live with.

We should find a new alternative (explain your position)


My Position:

The greatest flaw in the current model is the measure of success called "Growth".

Put Simply: Thanks to this catastrophic goal, We have out-"Grown" both our habitat and our ruling families tactics for control.

Both the population and the system are now beyond reigning in with the classic approaches of "feast then famine".

The feast is over and thanks to greed, Growth, and overpopulation, all that will remain is famine. VOLUNTARY population reduction by the altering of our reproductive and land development practices.

One inherent catalyst is that countries currently reward people to breed.

We need to incentive people, particularly the drug-addicted, un-educated and nomadic or migratory people to NOT conceive human life when all logic and self-responsibility suggests otherwise.

Put frankly, we need to enter into voluntary business negotiations (contracts, grants, or cash) with all parasitic pockets of society in exchange for their fertility.

Example: there are needle exchanges (for heroin addicts) that act as a go between with clinics that will award addicts a one-time cash settlement (with which they are free to go and score smack) in exchange for having their tubes tied.

Lighter criminal sentencing for those who agree to surgical sterilization.

I also propose revocable college grants (tuition, room and board) for those who hold off on conceiving until after graduation. Get pregnant? Lose that subsidy and due back in full, at interest asap.

We must stop rewarding people for migration and reproduction with funds that did not exist until the need produced itself for the only sake of fabricating a need for more funds. They should only be rewarded by society by not burdening anybody at all, the system, their neighbors, life, and the planet.

The greatest societies should not be measured by their tax-paying or, consuming or spending power but by their sustainability might.

Every culture, language, history, and legacy should be preserved where they are and not blended into the oblivion of the multicultural failure of an experiment.

If through irresponsible breeding practices you strain or outgrow your own environment, then your culture should contract and not be prevented from doing so with U.N. intervention.

Cultures with the most premature instances of fertility should be labeled "at risk" and treated as such with an urgency in reproductive abatement.

All of this should be voluntary. Those who violate this arrangement with one another and all life on the planet should be left to wallow, unassisted, in their poverty, and high mortality rate.

Before you label this as heartless or draconian, don't forget the alternative: If we don't depopulate ourselves...

someone else is about to.

I think the way you sorted it out was very good, a chunk for each people so the bickering about reparations can stop, and even an area for those who still want to do the multicultural thing.

Brilliant, I wholly agree.

Well here's what would happen. You give the nicest place to the blacks to shut them up (say southern california). But that wouldn't be good enough for them. They would complain about something and say it's not good enough. They deserve more.

We need to live by Biblical principles.

1) No interest on any loans. Period.

If entrepeneurs want to raise money they can sell equity- stocks. No bonds.
If you want to buy a house and you have no money, you can do a lease to purchase.

One simple Biblical law and you eliminate the Bankers who enslave us.

You can live communally like Jesus and the apostles and the prophet Elijah before Them, or you can pursue wealth.

Systems should be as anarchic as possible. Too structured a system and the wealthy or powerful will take control too easily. You can pursue anarcho-syndicalism - communes, socialist movements or anarcho-individualism.

Well they would lose any credibility after that, but I'd venture to say in that situation they wouldn't even dare to bitch anymore, even the lowest ghetto dweller has some shame.

Ron Paul wants to do away with the Environmental Protection Agency.

Thats like Regan saying he wants to do away with banking regulations. Look where that got you.

Without the Environment Protection Agency, you would have once again, spent control rods being buried by mafia types, under the concrete in parkades in downtown LA.

"Example: there are needle exchanges (for heroin addicts) that act as a go between with clinics that will award addicts a one-time cash settlement (with which they are free to go and score smack) in exchange for having their tubes tied."

In India, the most popular form of contraception is voluntary sterilization.

The people quickly get married and have children, then get sterilized. What happens then is that they are having their families at a younger age, and that means more generations of people in a shorter span of time.

They now have a population of 1.2 billion people.

China has had a one child per family policy for years.

In some cases where people have had more than one child, they are forced to commit infanticide. (they have to kill the child to prevent embarrassment or penalty.)
At times this policy frustrates people so much, that after having to perform infanticide or see others do it, they go on killing rampages in kindergartens slaughtering the children in a mad fit of rage and uncontrollable psychosis.

They have over 2 billion people in China.

Glad to see lots of people cheering for a resource based economy!! =D

@Thrashgeist

I propose a benevolent dictatorship to be followed by a reboot to direct democracy and elimination of the current monetary system to be replaced by a pre ww1 germany style humanist banking system which was actually the reason for ww1 btw.

Lobying and special interest will be banned from all politics. Majority rule, end of story. Politicians will be a thing of the past to be replaced by public servants who impartially present issues to be voted on directly.

Their will no longer be political parties, the concept is flawed and divisive and is a tool of the soon to be PTW.

No one ever involved in Gov't or banking currently may ever participate in either of the new system.

Elections are held online as well as campaigning for public service positions and that only sponsored by equal sums of funds from the gov't sector.

Corporate law is eliminated, strict guidelines enforced upon any business of substantial size. The word Corporation will no longer exist to be replaced by the term enterprize and it will apply to any business with shareholders.

Excessive wealth at a level yet to be determined but I'm thinking around Ten Milish relative to the new currency will be taxed at a 100% rate. No single person should ever weild that much power except me lol and only temporarily. If a large percentage of the population say 50% approaches that limit, it will be increased (yes that's possible) but only after the issues of restoration of the ecology to support life indefinitely and sustainable energy are addressed. I'm not going through all this bother just so we can die off like deer in time of famine.

War is illegal except as defense. Defence may be defined by foreknowledge of attack as well. Enemies that declare war upon us will be relieved of their ability to make war ever again. Those Countries who wish to join us in a complete way will be very welcome as we can accomodate. Immigration will be allowed but selected by merit and population sustainability in relation to ecology/technology/energy. I expect the entire world will join us in time.

Their will be no IRS or income tax. Only tax on profits of business and enterprizes and that flat, no loopholes, no exception. Large religious organizations will be classified as an enterprize and will also be taxed. Small local unafilliated groups of 200 or less will be exempt though again excessive wealth will be taxed at 100%.

I volunteer as benevolent dictator and will hand pick ten cabinet members of high moral value who can overide me by a 2/3 majority if they ever feel the need, they probably never will.

My term is limited to ten years or less as required for the proper reboot.

Rediculous Right?

Thats what it would take, a benevolent dictatorship is the most effective form of government but it's going to take a military coup to get us there.

This world should have developed into a Utopia a long time ago and that will be the name of our new civilization unless people vote to call it something else down the road.

Utopia!


Best Wishes


So I take it you already have experience shmoozing and rubbing elbows with world leaders and living lavishly. Oh, you say you don't? Well then you are a fool because absolute power corrupts absolutely and without having had the potential experience how can you be sure you would act as you say?

No I don't and this is a hypothetical thread. Also I'm simply using myself as an example. I know a number of people I would be happy with as benevolant dictator though I would prefer myself. I can trust me because I would do the right thing and would not be corrupted though I have mentioned a cabinet of ten who could overide my decisions in the unlikely event it neccessary.

Of course , take a look at this.

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As a thinking member of society I would have to say that what we have is not perfect and I'm glad someone has put what an internet forum should be put to use for and that is brainstorming, especially if it helps the rest of humanity in the long run

next off I voted for an alternative, but I don't really know what that is, I thought at one time the venus project would be a good idea but I'm not so sure anymore.

Anarchism might be good if a microchasm of such a system were to be tried and be exemplified just like true communism has never been tried.

I propose we set up test communities for such things somewhere and see which works best after a year or two of study we can defiantly determine which systems work and which ones don't only through example is anyone going to change their minds to work for something better, and it's up for us to show them how it's done!

Glad to see lots of people cheering for a resource based economy!! =D