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America owes America 9.8 trillion! Foreign debt is only 4.5 trillion...so America owns America.

 
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09/19/2011 08:49 PM
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America owes America 9.8 trillion! Foreign debt is only 4.5 trillion...so America owns America.
Just read this article:

[link to globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com]

"Who owns America - Hint, it is not China"

The list is interesting:

from the article:
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"Hong Kong: $121.9 billion (0.9 percent)
Caribbean banking centers: $148.3 (1 percent)
Taiwan: $153.4 billion (1.1 percent)
Brazil: $211.4 billion (1.5 percent)
Oil exporting countries: $229.8 billion (1.6 percent)
Mutual funds: $300.5 billion (2 percent)
Commercial banks: $301.8 billion (2.1 percent)
State, local and federal retirement funds: $320.9 billion (2.2 percent)
Money market mutual funds: $337.7 billion (2.4 percent)
United Kingdom: $346.5 billion (2.4 percent)
Private pension funds: $504.7 billion (3.5 percent)
State and local governments: $506.1 billion (3.5 percent)
Japan: $912.4 billion (6.4 percent)
U.S. households: $959.4 billion (6.6 percent)

China: $1.16 trillion (8 percent)

The U.S. Treasury: $1.63 trillion (11.3 percent)
Social Security trust fund: $2.67 trillion (19 percent)
So America owes foreigners about $4.5 trillion in debt. But America owes America $9.8 trillion."
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I think what the figures suggest is that the foreign debt has no real influence and they are not being 'controlled' by the other countries.

Thread: Europe Stunned After Being Told "Obama Is Not In Charge"
^ I misunderstood this one yesterday lol


Obama is not in charge of the EU.
Does the US have any influence over Europe though?
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Re: America owes America 9.8 trillion! Foreign debt is only 4.5 trillion...so America owns America.
perhaps you should look into who that money is really owed to.Try the Federal Reserve Corp.End the FED,confiscate the assets,and burn any treasury notes they hold.You just eliminated 2/3rds of all US debt.
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09/19/2011 09:13 PM
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Re: America owes America 9.8 trillion! Foreign debt is only 4.5 trillion...so America owns America.
Our debt(to the exterior and interior) is smaller than other's debts to us cool2
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09/19/2011 09:16 PM
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Re: America owes America 9.8 trillion! Foreign debt is only 4.5 trillion...so America owns America.
I have been trying to tell people this for years. We are borrowing money from our own federal reserve. When will people wake up. China or no other country "owns" us they are buying into the conservative dipshit propaganda that we are borrowing from other country's.
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Re: America owes America 9.8 trillion! Foreign debt is only 4.5 trillion...so America owns America.
I have been trying to tell people this for years. We are borrowing money from our own federal reserve. When will people wake up. China or no other country "owns" us they are buying into the conservative dipshit propaganda that we are borrowing from other country's.
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yes I have heard that.

Why are they freaking out about the debt then?

The media perpetuate it also...
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09/19/2011 09:33 PM
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Re: America owes America 9.8 trillion! Foreign debt is only 4.5 trillion...so America owns America.
I have been trying to tell people this for years. We are borrowing money from our own federal reserve. When will people wake up. China or no other country "owns" us they are buying into the conservative dipshit propaganda that we are borrowing from other country's.
 Quoting: openmindedskeptic


Well if that is true then the federal reserve bank isn't making any money. They are loaning it to us at 0.25% interest rate while the inflation rate is higher than that meaning they are actually losing money right now.
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Re: America owes America 9.8 trillion! Foreign debt is only 4.5 trillion...so America owns America.
I have been trying to tell people this for years. We are borrowing money from our own federal reserve. When will people wake up. China or no other country "owns" us they are buying into the conservative dipshit propaganda that we are borrowing from other country's.
 Quoting: openmindedskeptic


Well if that is true then the federal reserve bank isn't making any money. They are loaning it to us at 0.25% interest rate while the inflation rate is higher than that meaning they are actually losing money right now.
 Quoting: Fat Head


I am not savy with US finance. It is a good thing to have a reserve, that way, it is like your Countries savings.

that is how I understand it anyway, could be wrong?
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Re: America owes America 9.8 trillion! Foreign debt is only 4.5 trillion...so America owns America.
I have been trying to tell people this for years. We are borrowing money from our own federal reserve. When will people wake up. China or no other country "owns" us they are buying into the conservative dipshit propaganda that we are borrowing from other country's.
 Quoting: openmindedskeptic


FED is NOT your own. If it was, you would not have to borrow from it.

Do you often borrow money from your self? Then pay interest to your self?





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