Sumarian tablets VS. The Holy Bible

My research has lead me to believe the ancient summerian texts date back to 3rd mellina bc - they have been PROVEN to date back before Jesus walked earth

Thankyou for the compliment! and you call yourself a bittch? LOL!

I like that article too. It seems to accurately portray what happened to Israel when the people, against God's wishes, demanded that they have a king.

I especially like this sentence:
"While David is clearly a hero during the reign of Saul, his character gradually changes as king, until he commits a crime greater than any Saul had committed: he murders a man in order to marry his wife".

Ha-ha! He didn't just "murder a man..." he murdered his best friend, Urias! He probably thought he could get away with it, since he, himself, didn't do the murder, but he had his men put Urias in the front line of battle, and when that didn't work, he ordered them to kill Urias in what we now call "friendly fire". However, he soon found out that when you conspire to do such an evil deed, it is as good as if you had done it yourself. In fact, it's even WORSE--because you have gotten OTHERS to sin by doing your evil deed for you, so YOU are now responsible for their sin too--as well as your own.

The part of this article, concerning King Soloman, saying, "...he paid Pheonicia in slave labor: every three months, 30,000 Hebrews had to perform slave labor for the King of Tyre. This, it would seem, is what Samuel meant when he said the people would pay dearly for having a king..." makes me think of what Obama has promised during his campaign, and what he is trying to do for the citizens of the U.S.

Did he NOT say that he would have "SHOVEL-READY JOBS" for all Americans? Did he not promise that he would pay people's mortgage, put gas in their car, and put food on their tables? Doesn't that spell out a CHANGE that Americans DON'T want, of a Socialist form of government wherein all would be provided for you--as long as you commit yourself to slave labor (shovel-ready jobs)?

I like that the article doesn't call them "jewish people", but rather, "the Hebrews". However, I would prefer the name, "the Israelites". All Israelites are Hebrews, but not all Hebrews are Israelites, and according to the Bible, God's people were the Israelites. That means US too.

Likewise, all jewish people are Israelites, but not all Israelites are jewish people. I think it is erroneous to believe that the Bible was about the jewish people and written by the jewish people. It most certainly was not. It was God's dealings with the Israelites, and written by the Israelites. Moses, for example, was of the tribe of Levi, so he was a Levite, not a jewish.

I think that the jewish people have us duped about THEM being "God's CHOSEN people". I believe that if you read the Bible, you will find that God is speaking to ISRAEL, and again, not all Israelis (in the Bible times) were jewish people, but there were TWELVE TRIBES of Israel, and the jewish people are just ONE of them.

Therefore, those who are of the other 11 tribes of Israel are also the Chosen Ones of God--not just the jewish people. AND the Bible is NOT from the jewish people either. It was from the ISRAELITES--and the jewish people just happened to be the only ones who protected and preserved the Bible for us.

As for the jewish people today... There are many good jewish people. Since I moved to Norway, I've been somewhat isolated, so I don't have many friends, but before I left the USA, I had many Jewish friends.

I even had two girlfriends who were Jewish and I loved them both very much and was heartbroken when, after 5 years of dating the first, and after a year of dating the second, when I asked them to marry me they both told me that marriage was out of the question because I'm not Jewish--but thankyou for all the wonderful dates and time we spent together! Oh, but then, I dated a Japanese girl, and she told me the same thing, but that she couldn't marry me because her parents would disapprove of her marrying a non-Japanese guy.

It's the Zionist jewish people that we need to worry about. And again, not all jewish people are Zionist and surprisingly, not all Zionist are jewish people either. There are some Christians and even athiests who are Zionist. The ZIONISTS are the ones we need to worry about.

I spent about and hour to try to find a good video that I saw just yesterday on YouTube that explains the differences between the Jewish people and the Zionists jewish people, but now I can't find it. I thought I made a link for it, but it's gone, so maybe I forgot to make that link yesterday. Darn it!

It's very late now in Norway and I need to go to bed. I was going to go to bed, but I say your nice reply and wanted to answer it. I'll check this when I wake up to see if you've written something else for me to answer.

that statement that i bolded alone, makes me like you. Yes christianity is fine for those who find it serves them well. It just doesn't do it for me. I am glad your keeping an open mind about the world, I believe we should always keep two eyes open and learn all we can while we are here! I'm going to check out that link you've provided, I love reading about anything to do with Enki <3 and yes the name calling is ridiculious..I'm ok with being called enkitard, Sumaritard..lol but it always goes way further.

Linky or stinky...I don't think you can prove their is NO text older then the bible. Matter of fact The SUMARIAN tablets ARE in FACT older.

No wise magician or diviner can explain to the king the mystery he has asked about". (Daniel 2:27)

"Let your astrologers come forward, those stargazers who make predictions month by month, let them save you from what is coming upon you. Surely they are like stubble; the fire will burn them up.’’ Isaiah (47:13)

"Let no one be found among you . . . . who practices divination . . . Anyone who does these things is detestable to the Lord, and because of these detestable practices the Lord your God will drive out those nations before you." (Duet 18:10-12)


Isaiah 47:13 “ God told the nation of ISRAEL to go to their astrologers and stargazers to help them, and tell them this knowledge would do them no good’’


Also in the book of Daniel - 1:20, 2:2, 2:27, 4:7, 5:7, 5:11, and 5:15 - astronomy is redefined FROM the ancient astrology by FORBIDING enchantments or conjurers for purposes of divination (basically God is telling us it’s a terrible sin to be a prophet, predicting future events from astrology) even says if we do it we will be burnt in fire..

We obviously didn’t get rid of astrology, but it was changed to the form we all know today that assumes the placement of the stars in the zodiac have physical effects on humanity..


I honestly think this was an attempt to dumb down humanity, because it’s not like the Kabbalah doesn’t promote this same “mysticism” the Old testament forbids. The Ancient Sumerian Societies we’re absorbed by the Semites, this would have given the Israelites plenty of time to not only understand the astrology, but to confuse the rest of humanity by changing it, rendering those who practice the new astrology clueless as to not only future events, but the knowledge to understand the heavens..

Part of the obvious confusion here is this change in what astronomy is, leaving the laymen of humanity confused while they not only study, but use the real astronomy. The ability to predict future events is a very powerful tool to hold over people. The Ancient Indian cultures used to know when the eclipses would be, and offer sacrificial virgins to please the Gods so they would bring the moon or sun back. This power they held over the less educated people worked tremendously at not only gaining but retaining power over the people.

So this isn’t a new trick, I’m sure Israel knew this, since they seem to have absorbed this ancient culture. The Magi were in Babylon when the jewish people were there during their captivity I’m sure not only did they pick up, and understand magi’s but it was then hidden from us, in order to protect any power they may aquire..

The first letter alphabet (or Semite) language/writing CAME AFTER the fall of the ancients, NO ONE on earth has used these glyphic letters, and markers since then, so to think The Bible is the oldest book in the world is beyond any reason or logic, instead its hope and faith..

But hey, that’s what’s religion is all about, right?

The Biblical hypocracy that surrounds this is also astounding.. We’re told the wise men used magi, to find baby Jesus, while in Numbers book 24: verse 17 we’re told of a star coming out of Jacob, along with a Scepter out of Israel, to smite Moab and destroy the children of Sheth, along with NUMEROUS other examples in the Bible where the Israelites used magi to find enemy’s, kill Jesus.. This verse implies Jacob himself is into magi..

[link to www.aish.com] here is a Kabbalah 101 link showing you the basics as well as the hypocracy of their practice of this “black magic” – they did write the bible, Or do some of you think God really wrote it? LOL

The bible seems to be the jewish people way of control over you. They dictated “God’s” words for you also allowing them tremendous power over; not only you, but your “ Christian Nation’’ and politics. Have you EVER wondered why jewish people, do not believe in your Lord Jesus Christ, or why they think your an idol worshipping sheep for believing in Jesus? [link to en.wikipedia.org]

And wiki is really way to nice (I’m sure this is due to their HEAVEY Jewish funding) but you can get the picture. Ironically, Muslims do believe in Jesus, and view him in HIGH respect , they just don’t think he was the son of god, but rather a prophet, and they seem to have nothing to do with his death, unlike the jewish people..

- CHRISTIANITY IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH JUDAISM..


NOTHING adds up with our relationship with Israel, nothing.

[link to www.pbministries.org] Here is a GREAT read on the “God of Jacob” , the god of Israel, the God who chooses some over others who shows us
“ that the eternal election of certain individuals unto salvation is due to no worthiness in the subjects but results solely from God’s sovereign grace.’’

This GOD sounds like a snake in the grass!


This God choose not to do right, and steal his brothers birth-right, while his brother walked the way of God and ‘’was hated’’ by him. This should say to you it doesn’t matter how you live, you can be a nun and still be hated by God.

[link to www.askmoses.com] and this article is DEFFINITLY worth a read too, it explains how Jacob and the 12 tribes are really a refrence to the 12 zodiac signs (more ancient stolen magi??) and how much this magi, that we’ve been forbidden influences EVERYTHING from their holidays, to their souls, actions AND RELIGION..

NOPE, it does not look JUST LIKE their religion came from these ancient Sumerian texts.. Unless you look..

[link to www.google.com]

This is a yahoo search for not only Nimrod, but BABYLON AlSO being stolen from the ancients and placed into our Bible.

Someone mentioned that none of this means the bible isn’t true, and I just gotta disagree their. This absolutely means it isn’t true, you don’t have your hearts and minds open to God’s true concept, especially if you view God as a man with human powers..I can’t say I’ve found the truth either, so I can’t help ya there..But I can say, the God of Jacob may not save you even if you believe and live right by him. So you may want to keep your hearts and minds open.
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I just gave a pretty harsh seeming post about jewish people, and in America where if you just say "jewish" you're anti-semite let me clear things us..The Jewish, Israeli people are no different than the American people, we are all being taken on a ride..

and them zionists are some powerful Mo-fo's and I 10% agree with ya about its the zionists.. The ones that think being "jewish" means they can lay claim to their homeland, which is looking more and more like its gonna be the whole dang world.

And your beloved ancient Sumeria and Egypt were wiped out by God because they sacrificed untold thousands and thousands of babies, children and adults to spirit ls masquerading as God's. Do some research instead of being deceived by lies. Look it up - everyone of these ancient, pre-flood civilisations sacrificed humans to these darn things. Look around you - the SAME thing is happening again. Thousands of people, especially children, go missing every year to never be found again. Animal mutilations have been going on - and you believe they are done by ETs. This is called connecting the dots. Do you realise how many people have been convinced today that these things are our gods? History is repeating itself, all by their deception .

It may have been God that created Adam and Eve but it was the serpent that set them loose upon the world. What I find most interesting about the bible saying that there is only one God is that God speaks to other beings like himself in Genesis.

perhapa the people who translate this read ghe bible and used it as a guide. Now if this tablet is similar to myan, etc...... Then its a diffefent story. I

While they do borrow plenty of ritual and ceremony from the Path of Anu for the "god" of the Old Testament/Torah/Talmudic texts.

This is not accurate, Anu was not part of the operations on Earth and while he was worshipped much like a god by the Sumerian Kings and Heros, he wasn't as well known to the local population as his sons were.




Enlil/EL - Yahweh, "God", Yashua, Yehova. He is not a God.

Enki/EA is our "Father" but he is also not God. He does go by other names as well.

Anu is Enki and Enlil's father, but he is also not God.

They are in fact, the beings that the bible is centered around, but they kept the rituals and myths, and changed the names.

These deities all had their own system of worship beyond their devotion to their royal family, this system they used isn't understood, but if you read the words and interactions of the early Sumerians, it is almost sure to be a Monotheistic type of religion.

Not a Pantheon.

I have been researching the Sumerians for a little while myself. The similarities between these history tablets and the bible are uncanny. I can't wait until more of them are translated.

The book of (genes)is clearly nothing more than a rewrite with the names changed to suit the times. The Sumerians were not the oldest humans known to Earth, but they were the first to organize a complete society, right down to schools.

The Epic of Gilgamesh is the oldest story to ever be recorded and passed down. The Sumerians didn't make the story, but recorded it for posterity.

The old testament bible talks of more than one god. The new testament bible talks of one, but it seems like he is moody or two or so different entities.

I have said it for more than 20 years, the bible is nothing more than a history book. It was greedy humans who wanted power that turned it into a frightful form of control and it still works to this day.

All religions come from these 3000+ year old tablets. Our religious wars are nothing more than a continuation of ancient wars between ancient families that could not agree and used humans to do their fighting so as not dirty their hands. Don't forget, god is a jealous god and you shall have none before him. Hmmm.

All the deniers can stay in denial. There are those of us though that need to know our true origins, and one god is not it.

The Sumerian Creation Tablets are interesting indeed. It tells how and why we were created and talks of some of the failures. It also talks of how maidens were used to incubate the fetuses.

All in all, the bible is based on text much older than christianity itself.

"Did he NOT say that he would have "SHOVEL-READY JOBS" for all Americans? Did he not promise that he would pay people's mortgage, put gas in their car, and put food on their tables? Doesn't that spell out a CHANGE that Americans DON'T want, of a Socialist form of government wherein all would be provided for you--as long as you commit yourself to slave labor (shovel-ready jobs)?"

I don't wanna even think abot what these shovel ready jobs are- surely isn't infastructure, that's fallen all to he'll here- we can't even have normal rain withot massive flooding anymore- Atlanta water has risen over a 100$ a bill because we need a sewer system-

the way things R going I wonder if these shovel ready jobs aren't grave diggin jobs- and I hate that I am for real when I say that-

As far as the Zionist go- my government is an extension of Israel, dothis kinda makes us Zionist too- seems like america is israels muscle man and these christians on this thread seem unfazed by death of Muslims- the news shows pictured of dead kids after demonizing these poor people, and instead of showing. Empathy, compasion, and understandig, for their suffering and loss most of these folks are thinking " they desered it"


WTF(? Were invading/occupying their home- were the aggressor-

no way in he'll I believe Adam and eve were the first humans, and given the names we had back then I gotta wonder if it wasn't even different names because Adam and eve are VERY American.. Like Sally and Steve.

The bible has beenthe last truth I've tried to study- and I admit allthough I've had doubts about Adam and eve for ever I just wasn't readyto even question my religion..

I saw a movie on YouTube called " the quickening" it's about the myans and hopis- this is actually where my eyes opened- because this too is also the same as the christain prophesy-

the hopi's identified the poles by color- red and blue- the say they red star kachina and blue star kachina are " the gaurdians of the north and south poles" - this got my mind going about the king of the north and south that in revalation/ endtimes will come wreck havock on earth-

Well after one Internet search and several pages of reading, my suspisions were right-

Wormwood and nibiru are the same just like the star of Bethlehem and nibiru are the same- one thing I haver found is that anythig will fall from the sky and bitter the waters in any other prophesy- so I question this part of revAlation-

But... It's my STRONG belief that these coming earth changes will eventually pull us back together like we were before pangia..

Humanity has a connection to mother earth, even tho MOST of us don't undertand how deep this connection is because we nolonger farm or use our land for survival, but the earth and humanity are inseperatable- our journeys will always be one.. Mother earth is every bit as organic as we are, so before we destroy her, she will balance this problem out..


The ancient Sumerian texts tell gilgamesh to smash his house, and break his things, and to save his soul over the physical world.. This is what needs to happen again..

Infact the hopis and myans say these don't have to be bad times if we can let go of the physical world..

The bible says the meek shall inherit the earth

and the Muslims have been promised peAce and ascention..

And I believe this will happen.. After the apocalypse or shall I say epoch eclipse- epoch represeting a new age or era which is prophesiesed to happen after the suns eclipse with nibiru, which my research is also leading me to believe may be the suns bianary star companion which orbits Orion and the sun ever 3,500 years.. This time cram also meshes with when the star of Bethlehem was last spotted in our skys, and allthough I've found articles that suggest this, my research also draws these same conclusions-

humanitys connection to mother earth and the plates movig backtogether will help heal the hearts of mankind- I also believe this 5th element aether which ALL ancient cultures recognized as the highest element will be brought back to earth for 1000 years-

The 7 seals may be the 7 shakras that are prophesized to be opened in endtimes- the colors of the caped horsemen also represent the colors of the shakras-

the bible is their to place fear in peoples hearts, and what it can't do the news does- I don't watch I t anymore- I can't- I can't watch the gore they show us to desinsetize us because it began hurting my heart- like the clips were family, not people far away...


Waking up has been the bigger journey of my life, I lost friends, and seems like even some family- over truth... You can't even talk about things these days without making the sleep walking mad-

While my reactions to truth has always been anger from those not awake, I find more heart filled with more love and peace for my fellow humans daily..and this growth has been amazing, 6 years ago I was self centered, and also asleep and the world seemed more chaotic to me then, so did my emotions ( I used to think I was the cener of the earth) and maybe even who it revolved around..and I've been humbled..

Humbled in ways I couldn't concieve 6 years ago when patriotic meant supporting hate and wArs..

I don't know if it's been a fair tradeoff, because I want my mom to awaken out of love and fear for her wellbeing- and here at these endtimes we don't even talk anymore- but I've begun to feel sorry for her, and not me..

The kinda change the world needs has to be catastrophic to change us in ways to make it better not worse, it will be through these times we can connect back to spiritualty and wholesome living..

That movie the quickening really showed me another way to view these earth changes - so they don't have to be bad times..


Anyone that needs the spiritual guidence and a total change of perception should check that out-

but, through it all, and allthe worry, for everyone inthe world, not just loved ones I finally found peace, and myself...


Almost as if this was the best thing that could of happened to me..

I still believe in GOd, and a creator, and there is NO WAY our creator isn't anything bt loving.. We need look no further than our own children to see this..

I reject the bibles fear of judgement, I reject the judgement of bible thumpers.. And know deep down in my soul that this fear is anti- love, anti Christ, and anti life...

Hell- we are all in this together, and no religion, age, race, or politcal affiliation will change this- I do believe god is love, and this is echoed thoughout the bible MANY times... So the less love and more hate for fellow brothers and sisters works against god-


Their is this saying and belief in the west, that goes take care of urself first, and not only is this not right, it's what's wrong with humanity..

Humanity has been placed on this earth for love, care, and selflessness to one another, not for ones own self- and the longer one looks out for themselve first, the longer they are working against the grain-
this theory of self first is selfish- and will only leave u empty and yearnig for the connection and love only another soul beside youself can bring u..


Maybe this is " hope and change" !? Maybe not... But I believe it- lol

I write this on my iPhone again w auto correct that has a mind of it's own :( please excuse typos

Are you fucking retarded?

The Sumerian Tablets in question have been translated and analyzed by thousands of scholars.

It wasn't just Sitchin sitting around translating each tablet, he only applies his own theories to the existing text and cross references that with the stories that were borrowed to created Genesis and most of the ancient stories in the OT/TOrah/Talmud.

Fictional pagan account? Are you fucking RETARDED.....they were etched into stone 5000+ years ago.

All you Sitchin detractors ALLL REFERENCE THE LOST BOOK OF ENKI WHICH WAS PROMOTED AND SOLD AND ADVERTISED AS A WORK OF FICTION BASED ON THE EXISTING INFORMATION IN THE THE ACTUAL TABLETS.

IT IS THE ONLY ONE, YOU KEEP BRINGING IT UP LIEK IT INVALIDATES EVERYTHING ELSE BECAUSE NOT ONE OF YOU MOUTHBREATHERS CAN BE BOTHERED TO READ A BOOK. HELL YOU PROBABLY HAVE NOT EVEN READ YOUR PRECIOUS BIBLE COVER TO COVER.

Get fucking real.

Epic of Gilgamesh isn't a Sumerian legend.

It is Akkadian.

The Enuma Elish is also older, than the EoG

The Atra Hasis is also older, than the EoG.

The EoG actually borrows some of the Enuma Elis and Atra Hasis to fill in some of the story with the EoG.

The OT mixes the stories of Enki and the line of Enki with the stories of Enlil and the line of Enlil.

Enlil is vengeful, authoritative, emotional, cold.

Enki is loving, logical, scientific, warm.

All of the lines of Abraham come from Sumeria. But they are far from the actual system of worship that was the key to understanding our relationship with God.

Enki and Enlil had a relationship with God, but at the time we were not shown how to make our way.

Over the years, we have had many prophets try and show us the Bible and Torah and Koran are worthless constructs of man, but no one seems to listen.

Knowing where these books come from will help to set you free.

When you have made it that far, you will see the cleared path in the brush, and you will find your path out of the woods. Finally.

So the Bible is true?

I think you'll find that genesis folows the sumerian tablets not the other way round

Most of what we actually know about ancient Mesopotamia(Sh'Nar, Shumer, Sumer, Sumeria,)

Comes from one site that has been a wealth of information.

Most of the more famous works, the epics at least, the well preserved ones, come from here.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Read this link, it will link out to a number of Akkadian stories all of which are great reads if you find the stories of the bible interesting, which in themselves, were carbon copies of the Sumerian tales.

They just changed the names(sound familiar?)

Yes Genesis follows the sumerian tablets particularly if you know how to translate the tablets which Sitchin didn't.This is also backed up by other ancient texts including the Dead Sea Scrolls.


Sitchin was soooo wrong.

You meant to say Genesis follows the tablets to the T

www.sithchiniswrong.com

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Why do you hate Christianity (the idea/concept) so much? You understand that Jesus summed up the entire idea more than once, and broke it down simply so we don't have to debate the finer nuances of mistranslation and misinterpretation?

Here's one:

"Teacher, what is the greatest commandment in the law?" And he [Jesus] said to him, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment. And a second is like it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments depend all the law and the prophets." (Matthew 22.36-40)

What is it exactly that you hate so much about that?

Do you think that it is naive to believe that just by loving God and your neighbor everything will work out? Your personal observation is a much harsher and more unforgiving world, right?

Can you not imagine a God/Being that is worthy of all of your love and therefore are offended by any commandment to do so? Do you fear someone unworthy of Godhood attempting to masquerade as God for the purpose of controlling you? Is it conceivable that someone would do this and yet there still exists a real God out there somewhere?

Can you just not imagine why God would want your love/worship unless it was for some nefarious undeserving purpose?

Do you just hate the idea of there being any rules that you MUST follow? Why do you hate these rules more than say "Gravity" or "Conservation of Energy"? Are you only willing to accept rules that can be proven to be true now, within your time frame? Is it conceivable that some rules may take a lifetime to prove, and still have been true all along?

Is it a more general hatred of the idea by association? Do you hate the Christian "leadership" so completely that any idea or person associated with them, even indirectly, is guilty by association?

Sitchin didn't do the translating of the tablets though.

You think that, because you know fuck all about Sumerian history, culture, or significance because you tunnel vision the theories of Z Sitchin and try and say that he is the only person who think Sumerian civilization is real.

You are a blind, dumb, sheep to some old book, yet you spit all over the origins of it because you prefer to be ignorant by choice.

You can hate Christianity and love Jesus.

Jesus never had anything to do with Christianity.

Saul did.

Guess who is going on a karma spending spree?

Thanks OP for being so eloquent in a discussion that should have entire degrees dedicated just to this stuff in universities. Religion and historical texts should be considered a part of history and not not just be considered mythology/spirituality. Based on real events, the information is history and if recent history is important, ancient history is _just_ as important.

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