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Bad Karma Good Karma... Being used in place of thread rating?

 
Olgoth666

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It would be better still if the computer decided whose karma rose and fell by trigger words. Like swears and such. Peoples thumb up or down votes would still push it into the red or into the green.
When the red is maxxed out no more posting on the normal page. You would be ostracized on the RED page and people could mock you there for a month and maybe a trial by your peers.
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It would be better still if the computer decided whose karma rose and fell by trigger words. Like swears and such. Peoples thumb up or down votes would still push it into the red or into the green.
When the red is maxxed out no more posting on the normal page. You would be ostracized on the RED page and people could mock you there for a month and maybe a trial by your peers.
 Quoting: Olgoth666


now, that is a worthy idea!!

however, i do swear and that would get me for sure. i don't swear at people, much, but i do swear for emphasis. it's the way i talk also. ohyeah
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Re: Bad Karma Good Karma... Being used in place of thread rating?
People have a limited amount of Karma to give, and if they waste it on threads instead of behavior.. well they just wasted their Karma!

Like any new system, it'll take a while for people to understand and get used to it, I think this may regulate itself over time.

As for a language parsing auto-karma.. that's no longer about behavior, as "bad language" is a subjective thing which doesn't relate to the words used but the intentions behind the words, and no automated system will be able to decipher that without a lot more computer power, resources and time than I suspect even Trinity is willing to give. After all that sort of thing is what hard core computer science researchers and big industrial deals come up with.

Last Edited by nomind on 08/16/2011 03:47 PM
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-"GLP MEMBERS BEWARE!!! THIS IS A GOVERNMENT SHILL."
- Most
moranic one given to me: When you type ".." you need to put three dots instead of two.



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Re: Bad Karma Good Karma... Being used in place of thread rating?
What about if for every 2 bad karmas you give out, you get one in return?

That would put a stop to a lot of the frivolous bad karmas being given out.
 Quoting: Artlicious


agree. great idea!
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I don't like this karma thing as it is akin to censorship and societal pressure. Have we not have enough control? Go back to the way it was.
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Re: Bad Karma Good Karma... Being used in place of thread rating?
I have noticed several posters with bad Karma points... posters that I am familiar with their posting style and wondered why on Earth anyone would bad Karma them.

IMO, this is a potential problem with the Karma system... people using the Karma feature in place of the thread rating system. Using this as a way to voice disagreement or disapproval of a single thread or post seems to defeat the idea somehow.

Have I misunderstood how the Karma points are designed to be used...
or is it okay to
nutkick
for no apparent reason?
 Quoting: SouthernLight


+1
people take revenge with the bad karma
they are also cowards, because, they are hiding.
I want to see them signing the comments with their real usernames..
 Quoting: ~GAIA~


I'd like to see real usernames too...once someone is accountable for their words/actions, I'l bet they will think twice about bad karma'ng somebody without being able to back it up with proof.
 Quoting: redlicorice

I have no prob with that, I will start signing mines...I think could be cool..
 Quoting: ~GAIA~


I sign mine, have from the start :) I like it when people give me ones that they have signed, it makes it more personal so it's nice to know who thinks what. :)
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Re: Bad Karma Good Karma... Being used in place of thread rating?
What About Trolling AC's????
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What About Trolling AC's????
 Quoting: TXREPUBLICHONEY


Not sure trolling AC's can give or take karma from another poster.

I thought you had to be registered.
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Re: Bad Karma Good Karma... Being used in place of thread rating?
hi

Maybe the abuse of the 'karma system' will translate into real karma?

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 Quoting: BOWMAN


for some it well, when they wish harm or place lies by intent, it will affect their real karma. I have been signing mine after the idea occurred to me, but I forgot once today.
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Re: Bad Karma Good Karma... Being used in place of thread rating?
I don't like this karma thing as it is akin to censorship and societal pressure. Have we not have enough control? Go back to the way it was.
 Quoting: WOMAN WHO RUNS W/ WOLVES


well I thinks it's cheap, but maybe over time some will grow up, you can use the results to STUDY folks here. That is what I am doing. It just confirms how shallow some members are.
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Re: Bad Karma Good Karma... Being used in place of thread rating?
It would be better still if the computer decided whose karma rose and fell by trigger words. Like swears and such. Peoples thumb up or down votes would still push it into the red or into the green.
When the red is maxxed out no more posting on the normal page. You would be ostracized on the RED page and people could mock you there for a month and maybe a trial by your peers.
 Quoting: Olgoth666


now, that is a worthy idea!!

however, i do swear and that would get me for sure. i don't swear at people, much, but i do swear for emphasis. it's the way i talk also. ohyeah
 Quoting: tinygreen


NO its NOT a worthy idea, it controls then peoples ability to express themselves using often the only real works that express an idea and emotion, the slang. there is always slang in language when people cannot find real concepts to express themselves. Any sort of judgement system of this sort will be used by shills and those not knowing the laws of God to attempt to drive certain people away, and this is the intent of some here. And I don't like the rewards for getting threads pinned either, because this will be used to send bad karma to people who ones are worried might earn pinned threads. And these same ones will post bad karma to keep people from earning enough good karma to get a green pin. But it will be an interesting social experiment to ones here like me who watch people. I have always watched people.


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Re: Bad Karma Good Karma... Being used in place of thread rating?
I have noticed several posters with bad Karma points... posters that I am familiar with their posting style and wondered why on Earth anyone would bad Karma them.

IMO, this is a potential problem with the Karma system... people using the Karma feature in place of the thread rating system. Using this as a way to voice disagreement or disapproval of a single thread or post seems to defeat the idea somehow.

Have I misunderstood how the Karma points are designed to be used...
or is it okay to
nutkick
for no apparent reason?
 Quoting: SouthernLight


I agree with you. This Karma rating it is subject to abuse. You don't like someone and you can get all your friends and relatives to just stop in as AC and give someone/someones the thumb down.

Have been surprised at how eager some people are to buy approval. Thought GPP users were more aware. Scary put in the context of what most of us think is about to happen in the world.

Guess Homeland Security and the current regimes are pleased with how easy people are bought and turned.
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AHA! Could be THAT too!
 Quoting: SHR


U R SOOOOOO HOT.spocklmao
 Quoting: SpiderJones


Ooohh I gave you gave you good karma for that!...

uuuh....you're not a GUY right?????
 Quoting: SHR


With a name like Spider Jones...um, well good luck with that.
 Quoting: BRIEF


Oh do be-haive! (Austin Powers)

This is so funny I wish I could give Karma points for you being you. All of you. Especially you Mod..you are funny. Glad you are here at GLP.

Southerlight thanks for bringing it to the light, and congrats on the pin.
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Re: Bad Karma Good Karma... Being used in place of thread rating?
I bet the site mod didnt think about the fact people would get upset when this new karma points system was implemented.

When i pointed out what i thought was problems with it. the only response i got was:

'i find it amusing'

lol

imo its a really weird thing to implement into a forum, perhaps its just a way to entice non paying members into joining? essentially a money making scheme?

who knows! but the fact remains, it is upsetting some members

WAY TO LOOK AFTER YOUR PAYING MEMBERS!!

Last Edited by krave on 08/16/2011 05:16 PM
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Re: Bad Karma Good Karma... Being used in place of thread rating?
I bet the site mod didnt think about the fact people would get upset when this new karma points system was implemented.

When i pointed out what i thought was problems with it. the only response i got was:

'i find it amusing'

lol

imo its a really weird thing to implement into a forum, perhaps its just a way to entice non paying members into joining? essentially a money making scheme?

who knows! but the fact remains, it is upsetting some members

WAY TO LOOK AFTER YOUR PAYING MEMBERS!!

 Quoting: krave



That'll teach us.

Can't use the prizes for free upgrades when we are
already paying for our upgrade.

I just signed on as a paying member..now I'm being
voted down while AC trolls roam around free.



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the 2 bad karmas i received, were just stupid people tapping on there computer keyboards.

tap tap tap derp tap derp
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Re: Bad Karma Good Karma... Being used in place of thread rating?
the 2 bad karmas i received, were just stupid people tapping on there computer keyboards.

tap tap tap derp tap derp

 Quoting: krave



I just recieved a disgusting perverted text...
click on my rating if you want to see it.

That's how trolls here talk to Christian ladies.



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08/16/2011 05:29 PM

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Re: Bad Karma Good Karma... Being used in place of thread rating?
the 2 bad karmas i received, were just stupid people tapping on there computer keyboards.

tap tap tap derp tap derp

 Quoting: krave



I just recieved a disgusting perverted text...
click on my rating if you want to see it.

That's how trolls here talk to Christian ladies.



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 Quoting: AlasBabylon


Thats too bad. Trinity needs to do something about that. People shouldn't be allowed to be derogatory. Mine aren't quite that bad but some are borderline.
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Well, just o-m-g...
Go to sleep for a few and look what happens! lol

Some great comments here!
I'm not even going to try to answer 'em, but thank all of you for the insights and wisdom and some really, really good laughs!

GLP... nuthin' else like it in the multiverse!
rofl
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Re: Bad Karma Good Karma... Being used in place of thread rating?
the 2 bad karmas i received, were just stupid people tapping on there computer keyboards.

tap tap tap derp tap derp

 Quoting: krave



I just recieved a disgusting perverted text...
click on my rating if you want to see it.

That's how trolls here talk to Christian ladies.



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 Quoting: AlasBabylon


apparently somebody doesn't like your ron Paul dislike? ( I don't know if you dislike him or not, the posts suggest you dislike him) What to do, ignore them. Trinity is I hope on a trip watching this stuff. I personally think it is going to give certain members the right to tread on all others. Grow a tough skin, it s one of the lessons on earth. Why though do you post "Christian ladies". has nothing to do with it. Christian does not make you special. maybe it should say, that is how trolls respond to Ron Paul supporters? I see nothing in your karma that suggests its because you are a Christian lady. This language is common against all
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Re: Bad Karma Good Karma... Being used in place of thread rating?
as i already said, the karma system is one big FAIL

and it baffles me that the site mod implemented it???

the only motives i can see are $$'s or entertainment (enjoying other people getting upset, little sociopathic dont you think?)

as a 32yr old relatively well adjusted male, the comments i receive dont really bother me.

but i assume other more fragile glp people might get upset at the comments left on their karma facebook wall.

perhaps a karma karma button is needed, i.e 'report abusive karma message'

lol

or just can the whole stinking thing.

Last Edited by krave on 08/16/2011 05:52 PM
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Re: Bad Karma Good Karma... Being used in place of thread rating?
I just realized something.

It is my opinion that Trinity, possibly, does not care too much about the negative karma's going around or how they are being abused.

Why?

Because the karma system was implemented for one main reason... to get GLP members to police each other better, to help GLP stay clean, legal and online!

Good Karma has been set up to help:
1) Cut down on copyright violations, which can be very bad for GLP.
2) Cut down on death threats, web hacking threats and threats of illegal activity.
3) Encourage unique topics to be posted and hopefully be important enough to be pinned.

From what we know so-far, Bad Karma really has no purpose and is ripe for abuse from members.

Last Edited by Artlicious on 08/16/2011 05:58 PM
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the 2 bad karmas i received, were just stupid people tapping on there computer keyboards.

tap tap tap derp tap derp

 Quoting: krave



I just recieved a disgusting perverted text...
click on my rating if you want to see it.

That's how trolls here talk to Christian ladies.



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 Quoting: AlasBabylon


Why though do you post "Christian ladies". has nothing to do with it.

 Quoting: Nobody in Particular



Anyone who spends any time reading my posts here knows I am a Christian.

Trolls intentionally use blasphemous, vulgar, perverted language against me for that very reason.



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Well, just o-m-g...
Go to sleep for a few and look what happens! lol

Some great comments here!
I'm not even going to try to answer 'em, but thank all of you for the insights and wisdom and some really, really good laughs!

GLP... nuthin' else like it in the multiverse!
rofl
 Quoting: SouthernLight


You missed your pin OP <3
"I can do ALL things through Christ who strengthens me" Phillipians 4:13
"I shall call upon the name of the Lord who is worthy to be praised; so shall I be saved from mine enemies" Psalm 18:2-4
"In God is my salvation and my glory; the rock of my strength, and my refuge, is in God." Psalm 62:6-8
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You missed your pin OP <3
 Quoting: TrixieMama


Yes, Trixie... I almost did! lol Witnessed the un-pinning though ;)

Real 'Trixie' gurl, you!
Gotta thank you, not for me so much (I missed it after all lol), but for those getting a chance to see that some are aware that red Karma isn't necessarily an accurate depiction of a poster's personality or the quality of their posts.
Sometimes it just shows that the Karma giver had a bug up their butt about something.

Thanks Trix, I'll just bet your pin, and the comments posted because of it, helped some readers feel a little better about things.
hf
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You missed your pin OP <3
 Quoting: TrixieMama


Yes, Trixie... I almost did! lol Witnessed the un-pinning though ;)

Real 'Trixie' gurl, you!
Gotta thank you, not for me so much (I missed it after all lol), but for those getting a chance to see that some are aware that red Karma isn't necessarily an accurate depiction of a poster's personality or the quality of their posts.
Sometimes it just shows that the Karma giver had a bug up their butt about something.

Thanks Trix, I'll just bet your pin, and the comments posted because of it, helped some readers feel a little better about things.
hf
 Quoting: SouthernLight


Random acts of kindness ;) We should all try to do more of them....the thread deserved to get some attention, so people could voice their opinions and dismay. Glad you at least caught a pinch of it. Yesterday someone pinned a thread for me and it made me feel really good to know that someone valued what I had to say. I think you got that same or similar feeling with your pin too.

Hugs friend hf
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"I shall call upon the name of the Lord who is worthy to be praised; so shall I be saved from mine enemies" Psalm 18:2-4
"In God is my salvation and my glory; the rock of my strength, and my refuge, is in God." Psalm 62:6-8
"He must become greater; I must become less.” John 3:30
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Re: Bad Karma Good Karma... Being used in place of thread rating?
AC's can't give karma points. You have to be registered. So don't be blaming the AC's.
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Re: Bad Karma Good Karma... Being used in place of thread rating?
I just realized something.

It is my opinion that Trinity, possibly, does not care too much about the negative karma's going around or how they are being abused.

Why?

Because the karma system was implemented for one main reason... to get GLP members to police each other better, to help GLP stay clean, legal and online!

Good Karma has been set up to help:
1) Cut down on copyright violations, which can be very bad for GLP.
2) Cut down on death threats, web hacking threats and threats of illegal activity.
3) Encourage unique topics to be posted and hopefully be important enough to be pinned.

From what we know so-far, Bad Karma really has no purpose and is ripe for abuse from members.
 Quoting: Artlicious


I keep putting myself out there, to try and add my input and help, but I keep getting negative karma's.. And for no reason at all really, other than people want to give them out.. LOL
Check the reasons people have left on my karma list.. at least that's good to laugh at I suppose.. ?
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Re: Bad Karma Good Karma... Being used in place of thread rating?
I was just saying that a more automated/ computerized approach might lend a little towards an unbiased approach, or you get the purposeful red thumb syndrome. That is if there is a problem with people sabotaging your karma. Catching key words like swears was a example, one of many ideas. Swearing is the top way for someone to reveal themselves as a troll or satanic convert. Smart people hold their tounge and find words of more precise meaning.
As the cat put it " I swear because I can't find another way to express my deeper emotions."............ Hmmm mm.........
An intelligent attack is always welcome......

Last Edited by Brian888 on 08/16/2011 07:01 PM
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You missed your pin OP <3
 Quoting: TrixieMama


Yes, Trixie... I almost did! lol Witnessed the un-pinning though ;)

Real 'Trixie' gurl, you!
Gotta thank you, not for me so much (I missed it after all lol), but for those getting a chance to see that some are aware that red Karma isn't necessarily an accurate depiction of a poster's personality or the quality of their posts.
Sometimes it just shows that the Karma giver had a bug up their butt about something.

Thanks Trix, I'll just bet your pin, and the comments posted because of it, helped some readers feel a little better about things.
hf
 Quoting: SouthernLight


Well I for one thanks you both for the thread and for the pin...

I saw this thread up this morning and finally finished reading the whole thing...

Had it not been pinned I probably would have missed it...

I think the Karma thing is a good idea and I also believe that the actions of others will all be judged in the end...

Good Karma Bad Karma...it is all gauged by what an individual feels/believes in their heart...

And I just have to say that the quote from Mother Teressa posted by Brief about sums up the elevation of life on this beautiful planet...

So go ahead make it happen...

Thanks

Cz
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