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| NiNzrez
Offer Upgrade  User ID: 1135433  United States08/13/2011 04:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe we may have found the culprit for why we have seen this anomaly Tomasgod1 and i, along with others on my GLP solar thread have been trying to figure this one out [link to www.youtube.com] [link to tropic.ssec.wisc.edu] talked about on this GLP thread: I HAVE A BAD FEELING ABOUT THIS Thread: I HAVE A BAD FEELING ABOUT THIS It is believed this was a Cosmic Ray Event (Gamma Ray) of unknown origin  The shower of particles produced when Earth's atmosphere is struck by ultra-high-energy cosmic rays (the most energetic particles known in the universe). Source: Simon Swordy/University of Chicago, NASA gamma rays effect our magnetic field as well as magnetic readings, such as those we see on HARP this is why we see the large spike on the HARP Fluxgate Magnetometer [link to 137.229.36.30] and on the HARP Induction Magnetometer [link to 137.229.36.30] (i will do a screen shot of these in a few, and then add those here with these links to the real time data) Because Earth’s atmosphere also reacts much like the ionization trail effect seen in the Wilson cloud chamber, scientists such as Svensmark have postulated that galactic cosmic rays can affect the earth by causing changes in weather and possibly long term climate. Moving at close to the speed of light, these nuclear fragments smash into air molecules hard enough to knock electrons loose. This well-documented process creates negatively and positively charged ions. Like the cloud trails seen in the Wilson cloud chamber, cosmic ray ionization trails in our atmosphere can act as cloud seeds. Some studies suggest that ions play a central role in creating aerosols. Aerosols are minute but important atmospheric particles that can serve as the cores of growing cloud droplets. Aerosols can cause clouds to form in the upper atmosphere, after the particles collide with other atmospheric particles in the troposphere and conglomerate into larger particles. [link to wattsupwiththat.com] where are these cosmic rays coming from? well that is up for you to interpret Join Me On The GLP SOLAR WATCH Thread Thread: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily) |
| NiNzrez
(OP) User ID: 1135433 United States08/13/2011 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We found this while looking into the geomagnetic alert issued by NOAA stating we are expecting a a corotating interaction region followed by a negative polarity coronal hole high speed stream. here is the NOAA 3 day solar forecast they do make note of the filament i mentioned that had lifted off in the north east region. They agree with me, that it is not earth directed IA. Analysis of Solar Active Regions and Activity from 11/2100Z to 12/2100Z: Solar activity was very low. Todays largest event was a B6 at 11/2309Z which appeared to originate from Region 1263 (N17, L=296, about a day beyond west limb at the time of the event). The solar disk now consists of only two spotted regions, Region 1269 (S22E03) and Region 1270 (N23E41). Both groups are very small and only possess spots without penumbra. A filament eruption in the northeast quadrant and associated CME were observed, beginning at about 0336Z. The CME appears to be travelling well out of the ecliptic plane and is not likely to be geoeffective. IIA. Geophysical Activity Summary 11/2100Z to 12/2100Z: The geomagnetic field was quiet during the past 24 hours. Solar wind observations of the Phi angle from the ACE spacecraft appeared to indicate a transition to a negative polarity sector. The greater than 2 MeV electron flux at geosynchronous orbit was at high levels throughout the period. IIB. Geophysical Activity Forecast: The geomagnetic field is expected to be predominantly quiet for day 1 (13 August). An increase to unsettled levels with a chance for active periods is expected for days 2 and 3 (14-15 August) as a co-rotating interaction region followed by a negative polarity coronal hole high speed stream are expected to become weakly geoeffective. [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] Join Me On The GLP SOLAR WATCH Thread Thread: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily) |
| NiNzrez
(OP) User ID: 1135433 United States08/13/2011 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is a Corotating Interaction Region? Corotating interaction regions (CIRs) are regions of compressed plasma formed at the leading edges of corotating high-speed solar wind streams originating in coronal holes (CHs) as they interact with the preceding slow solar wind. [link to journals.cambridge.org] Corotating interaction regions possibly play a role in determining solar modulation of galactic and anomalous cosmic rays during periods of low to moderate solar activity [link to adsabs.harvard.edu] [link to www.physics.usyd.edu.au] Last Edited by NiNzrez on 08/13/2011 04:25 PM Join Me On The GLP SOLAR WATCH Thread Thread: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily) |
| bcfd101
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| NiNzrez
(OP) User ID: 1135433 United States08/13/2011 04:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nice post nin Quoting: bcfd101Looks like i have some Reading to do let me know if you find anything interesting :) Last Edited by NiNzrez on 08/13/2011 04:25 PM Join Me On The GLP SOLAR WATCH Thread Thread: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily) |
| NiNzrez
(OP) User ID: 1135433 United States08/13/2011 04:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no one else with any thoughts on this? Join Me On The GLP SOLAR WATCH Thread Thread: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily) |
| old guard
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1498581 United States08/13/2011 04:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What ever is causing the disruption of our sat's won't be talked about openly. They are hardened to withstand nukes on earth, and solar storms. Anything that can compromise this is a national security risk and will be Blacked out. unless, one of our GLP'ers are satellite engineers... |
| NiNzrez
(OP) User ID: 1135433 United States08/13/2011 04:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been trying to find an answer, too. Did this just start yesterday, or first get noticed yesterday? Quoting: old guardthe HARP readings? or..? the HARP induction magnetometer has been lit up since around the same time we see this anomaly on the radar [link to 137.229.36.30] it usually lights up like that when we have a incoming CME that has reached earths atmosphere, but we have no CME with this Join Me On The GLP SOLAR WATCH Thread Thread: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily) |
| NiNzrez
(OP) User ID: 1135433 United States08/13/2011 05:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What ever is causing the disruption of our sat's won't be talked about openly. They are hardened to withstand nukes on earth, and solar storms. Anything that can compromise this is a national security risk and will be Blacked out. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1498581unless, one of our GLP'ers are satellite engineers... it is not the satellites that are disturbed they worked properly and picked up the gamma ray waves as they entered earths atmosphere Join Me On The GLP SOLAR WATCH Thread Thread: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily) |
| old guard
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| Ragman (Rags)
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| Least Servant
User ID: 1379655 United States08/13/2011 05:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it was probably the result of particles streaking between the satellites and the earth, there is no specific reason to believe they would not be blocked by the earth's protective barriers if this were the case.  :romaflag: Not enough to fight, too many to die. |
| NiNzrez
(OP) User ID: 1135433 United States08/13/2011 05:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The satillite anomalies Quoting: old guardaround 18:00 UTC Aug 10th is when the 1st one is seen Join Me On The GLP SOLAR WATCH Thread Thread: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1504490 United States08/13/2011 05:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1345008  United Kingdom08/13/2011 05:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.solarham.com] The blue trace, in particular. Is it possible that it is all liked to the same thing? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1383816 United States08/13/2011 05:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| NiNzrez
(OP) User ID: 1135433 United States08/13/2011 05:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it was probably the result of particles streaking between the satellites and the earth, there is no specific reason to believe they would not be blocked by the earth's protective barriers if this were the case. Quoting: Least Servantour magnetosphere does not stop rays from the cosmos that are directed at earth we have had many documented cases of cosmic ray events in the past. each of them different from each other not to mention the monitoring devices as well as satellites that are in place to monitor gamma rays and the neutron events that are associated with them HARP being one of those monitors so we do indeed know this happens List of Cosmic Ray Storms in 2011. [link to helios.izmiran.rssi.ru] "Majority of events listed here are the Forbush-effects, i.e. CME and coronal hole effects on background cosmic rays or manifestations of propagating solar wind disturbances in cosmic rays." Join Me On The GLP SOLAR WATCH Thread Thread: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily) |
| FlyingHigh
User ID: 1504548 United States08/13/2011 05:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What a fabulously informative post NIN. Very interesting read and a great education for a solar layman. Thank you very much. As I learn the ropes on GLP, I've come to appreciate your posts. Please keep up the great work! Peace,  Last Edited by FlyingHigh on 08/13/2011 05:28 PM Peace, (no poignant quotes, just kindness and love) But everyone has their limits. |
| alexisj9
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| NiNzrez
(OP) User ID: 1135433 United States08/13/2011 05:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is there no possibility that it had something to do with the meteor shower? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1504490there is always possibility's when we are discussing a space to earth event^^ but doubtful the HARP readings show a signature of a ray event that made the spikes on the reading we see and the signature we see on the anomaly video and picture matches what a gamma event entering earth shows up as Join Me On The GLP SOLAR WATCH Thread Thread: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1450970 United States08/13/2011 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| old guard
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1504584  Germany08/13/2011 05:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| old guard
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1450970 United States08/13/2011 05:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1450970 I'm not saying that's what it was I'm just putting it out there. The gamma rays them selves would come along with the flash but I also know the is a lag time between the busrt and the gravity waves that follow. But I forget what the lag time is. |
| kira User ID: 1305931 United States08/13/2011 05:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| NiNzrez
(OP) User ID: 1135433 United States08/13/2011 06:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've got limited understanding of all of this, but I have been wondering today why this is going a bit mad while everything else seems quiet. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1345008[link to www.solarham.com] The blue trace, in particular. Is it possible that it is all liked to the same thing? that is the Phi angel [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] Phi is the angle of the interplanetary magnetic field that is being carried out by the solar wind Magnetic Field Phi Explained [link to helios.gsfc.nasa.gov] Interplanetary magnetic field azimuthThe direction of the IMF perpendicular to the geomagnetic axis. This affects the details of solar wind-magnetosphere interactions; however, this is of tertiary importance compared to the IMF magnitude and polar angle. This quantity also depends on IMF components measured by ACE/MAG. [link to lunaf.com] Join Me On The GLP SOLAR WATCH Thread Thread: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily) |
| Deej
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| NiNzrez
(OP) User ID: 1135433 United States08/13/2011 06:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1450970 thank you for adding this! i looked all through my saved links for this one and could not find it Join Me On The GLP SOLAR WATCH Thread Thread: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily) |
