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How did Jesus' death wash away our sins?

 
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I have something to add to OP.

Besides the fact that someone "washed away our sins" and how.

Who decided what sins are and what could be defined as a sin?

All we got is that some dude went on a mountain and came down with some stones and bitched at people worshiping an ox, also as far as I know the stones don't exist in today's world for a reference. so...

Just some books some dudes wrote when they decided to take the teachings of others and wrap the world religion around them for personal gain.
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I have something to add to OP.

Besides the fact that someone "washed away our sins" and how.

Who decided what sins are and what could be defined as a sin?

All we got is that some dude went on a mountain and came down with some stones and bitched at people worshiping an ox, also as far as I know the stones don't exist in today's world for a reference. so...

Just some books some dudes wrote when they decided to take the teachings of others and wrap the world religion around them for personal gain.
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+10000000
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

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Awesome. I completely agree that God has created laws that must be worked within and no answer I got seem to work within said laws. But this works for me.
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But do you not see the inherent problem to begin with?

Why would an all-knowing, all-loving God create such a conundrum for himself?

God KNEW that they would eat of the tree ahead of time... or he's NOT GOD.

WHY would a LOVING GOD have created the law to begin with? WHY would he set things up so that his only recourse, the ONLY THING that would APPEASE HIM after the disobedience of his creations... be DEATH AND SUFFERING?

WHY do that to begin with? Was he incompetent? Stupid? Lazy? Negligent?

What makes an all-powerful, all-intelligent, all-knowing God create such a situation to begin with??

Think on the whole situation. "God" in the bible, loses control of his creations time and time again... and in every case of him losing control over them... the result is that he has to murder humans. ALWAYS WITH THE HUMAN KILLING with this "god". Why??

First, God creates the angels. 1/3 of these guys freak out and lose it and rebel. God, apparently, is too stupid to keep them away from his humans and just walks away and ignores it while the 'serpent' taunts them to eat of the tree?!

Next, God creates human beings. He PURPOSEFULLY creates them NOT KNOWING right from wrong. You must remember that THEY DID NOT KNOW IT WAS WRONG TO DISOBEY. Then, remember that "god" LIED TO EVE. He told ADAM that he wasn't to EAT of the tree, but he told Eve not to EAT NOR TOUCH the tree. So she gets "tricked" by the serpent, because the serpent is lounging ON the tree that you can't TOUCH or you'll die. A clear set up. Then Adam and Eve are punished for WHAT? For disobeying? FOR NOT KNOWING DISOBEDIENCE WAS WRONG.

They are punished for BEING THE WAY THEY WERE CREATED.

Why did God put the tree where they could get to it, right after creating them without the knowledge that disobedience was wrong?

How can this be anything but a setup?

It gets better, though. You are to be killed for their "sin" of being as innocent as they were created to be. I am, too.

Where is the justice in that? I don't see it. God's so incompetent that he has to murder everyone, FOREVER, because of two people's sins? He couldn't just scratch them and start over? Or punish them and let others make their own personal choice?

Nope. God couldn't manage that. Really?

Okay, so God couldn't manage to only punish the people who did the act... in fact, then God goes on to punish EVERYONE except 8 people, again... but this time for someone ELSE'S behavior.

"The sons of god" CAME DOWN [from where?] unto the women of men, and had relations with them". Thus were created "giants".

So what did our competent, wise, intelligent, brilliant God do to fix the fact that he totally ignored it YET AGAIN while his "creations" were corrupted by "his sons"?

He just killed everybody. Except one family, which inbred to repopulate the world.

Now, why did "god" create laws in which EVERYONE HAS TO DIE for the "sins" of a few people or even of his OTHER failed creations??

If YOU were the Creator, would YOU do that?? Would YOU murder ALL OF YOUR CHILDREN if ONE of your children ate some chocolate when you told her not to??

If YOU knew ahead of time (and what parent doesn't???) that at some point your kids are going to disobey, would you make the penalty for a toddler disobeying BE DEATH FOR EVERYONE??

Where is the sense in that?!

Sorry, but it is NOT logical or reasonable that God would even CREATE such a grossly unjust "rule" or "law" to begin with. NOT IF GOD IS LOVE.

Now, if "god" is a monster... sure. He would kill everyone forever because he stupidly made the first humans wholly innocent and unaware that disobedience is wrong.

Sociopaths would happily do such things, and it would make perfect sense to them to just KILL anything that displeases them.

But would LOVE do that? Would LOVE create such a situation TO BEGIN WITH, especially KNOWING that disobedience was coming?

If you're a human and you would NEVER, in a billion, trillion years KILL EVERYBODY just because your TODDLER couldn't resist a piece of chocolate with her big brother sitting there taunting her to eat it... WHY WOULD GOD?

God is BETTER and MORE LOVING than you are... not less!!

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When you apply he word to your life, it brainwashes you.
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I am actually being sincere here. I was raised in a Southern Babtist home and have read the bible a fair share of times, but I am at a total loss when it comes to understanding how Jesus dying on the cross translates into me being forgiven for my "sins".

And please don't just post scripture that just states it matter-of-factly as if I should ignore that we live in a world where things have to correlate.

So they torture him, place him on a cross, and then wait for him to die. He passes away, is reborn and then ascends to heaven. Now I get forgiven if I have impatient thoughts? How does that work? Did he die, go to heaven and flip on a breaker switch, resurrect on earth to check if it worked and then just strolled on back to heaven? What happened during his death that made our sins forgivable?

It's like a father bursting through the door and telling his son that cursing is now allowed in the house because he hit a deer on the way home. How in the world is it connected?
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OP, I wrote about this a few months ago here:

Thread: The Greatest Story Never Told

No scripture... just a metaphor that gives a little insight into the subject.

Like all stories, this one only touches on some aspects of your question. But perhaps this will get your thinking restarted.

Feel free to PM me if you'd like to discuss further.

hf
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The format of the answer you seek is in science rationale using terminology of space, time, energy, matter and the functionality of consciousness within those means. I'm interested in some that can do this without ANY scriptural referencing. Do so from facts of consciousness and existence.
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Brilliant!

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It didn't ... Jesus never existed ... sin (error) was a BS story from day one ... God was changed version of sun worship (which was OBVIOUSLY wrong) ... and that's that. None of these characters ever existed ... period.
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This was your original question:

"but I am at a total loss when it comes to understanding how Jesus dying on the cross translates into me being forgiven for my "sins".


I answered it!

There are "eternal principles and laws" at play and they are strict. Are you as young as your avatar? If so, then you have not had the time or experience to understand the depths of the mysteries of Gods kingdom. Even the prophets, who received visitations and visions were lacking complete understanding, by their own admittance.
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I would be careful to mark my wisdom by my age. You assume I have only lived this one life. This body is 23. This Self is not.

Perhaps I ask a question on this thread, not to receive and answer for myself, but to lead others to ask a question too.
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Then you were/are deceptive...that is and was not your opening statement.

You are not the only one with an old spirit. Each person that has ever walked the earth, clothed with a mortal body,
is the owner of a spirit that is far older, endless.

You are not seeking to understand anything. You have already formed your belief system, so why are you stating that you are humble and sincere in your search?

If you, scrodiddles, have earnestly been searching through prayer, act and deed, you would have more "correct" knowledge than you are exposing.

The mysteries of Gods kingdom are taught through the Holy Ghost. It is spirit to spirit, and an undeniable knowledge, once gained.

I promise you, that at age 23, you are not nearly as wise as you believe you are. You have only began to embark.

God Bless you in your endeavors and "if" they be of true desire, seeking the true God, you will find it, but if those endeavors lead you down ambiguous paths, then you will find confussion and false gods.

Be careful where you tread.

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This was your original question:

"but I am at a total loss when it comes to understanding how Jesus dying on the cross translates into me being forgiven for my "sins".


I answered it!

There are "eternal principles and laws" at play and they are strict. Are you as young as your avatar? If so, then you have not had the time or experience to understand the depths of the mysteries of Gods kingdom. Even the prophets, who received visitations and visions were lacking complete understanding, by their own admittance.
 Quoting: fairflight


I would be careful to mark my wisdom by my age. You assume I have only lived this one life. This body is 23. This Self is not.

Perhaps I ask a question on this thread, not to receive and answer for myself, but to lead others to ask a question too.
 Quoting: Scrodiddles


Then you were/are deceptive...that is and was not your opening statement.

You are not the only one with an old spirit. Each person that has ever walked the earth, clothed with a mortal body,
is the owner of a spirit that is far older, endless.

You are not seeking to understand anything. You have already formed your belief system, so why are you stating that you are humble and sincere in your search?

If you, scrodiddles, have earnestly been searching through prayer, act and deed, you would have more "correct" knowledge than you are exposing.

The mysteries of Gods kingdom are taught through the Holy Ghost. It is spirit to spirit, and an undeniable knowledge, once gained.

I promise you, that at age 23, you are not nearly as wise as you believe you are. You have only began to embark.

God Bless you in your endeavors and "if" they be of true desire, seeking the true God, you will find it, but if those endeavors lead you down ambiguous paths, then you will find confussion and false gods.

Be careful where you tread.
 Quoting: fairflight



You will see my reply to someone with a very good answer about a page back. I was sincere in my question and got a sincere answer. I am sorry you could not help. You offered a lot of assumptions though, so perhaps those may be worth something.
I am in search of Truth, but still emptying my cup.
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I am actually being sincere here. I was raised in a Southern Babtist home and have read the bible a fair share of times, but I am at a total loss when it comes to understanding how Jesus dying on the cross translates into me being forgiven for my "sins".

And please don't just post scripture that just states it matter-of-factly as if I should ignore that we live in a world where things have to correlate.

So they torture him, place him on a cross, and then wait for him to die. He passes away, is reborn and then ascends to heaven. Now I get forgiven if I have impatient thoughts? How does that work? Did he die, go to heaven and flip on a breaker switch, resurrect on earth to check if it worked and then just strolled on back to heaven? What happened during his death that made our sins forgivable?

It's like a father bursting through the door and telling his son that cursing is now allowed in the house because he hit a deer on the way home. How in the world is it connected?
 Quoting: Scrodiddles


Genesis 4:7 "If you do well, will not your countenance be lifted up? And if you do not do well, sin is crouching at the door; and her desire is for you, but you must master it."
Sin = chatta'th {khat-tawth'} He is told to master mashal {maw-shal'} to rule over sin. Sin is a noun common feminine singular absolute.


It does not say that sin started with Adam or Eve. It says that Cain has sin crouching at the door, and . If you are going to look for answers start there.

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Second if you understand that Yahoshua was a Nazoraion, they believed all would be saved in the end, each in their own order, also that killing innocent life was not a good thing.
Cain was upset that his brother killed innocent life, so he killed him. So sin, she is at the door wanting to own him. Yahoshua could have called all the Heavens (GODS) to his defense, he did not choose to do that knowing he is innocent he beat the desire to rule by force. In religion one is washed in the blood of animals. That has never been excepted by the highest power. Man has worshiped gods who were created by the Highest power In the beginning, Genesis 1:1 In the Beginning created gods Alph Tav Heaven Alph Tave Earth. The ABBA of Spirits is The Beginning. Yahoshua tells us no one has ever known ABBA he came to reveal him. When we understand that we are taught by the Divine ABBA the one over all, the false teachings of our life began to be challenged. Our fear of being saved is not the main focus any longer, we know we will be saved in the end. Our focus turns to love and washing away our sins or being cleaned inwardly.
Remember his blood in the New Cov. is the fruit of the vine that is the change in theology. A Nazoraion or non death which is the reward for all in the end.

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According to 1John chapter 3:4, Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, "sin" is lawlessness. The wages of "sin" or lawlessness is death..., Romans 6:23.

For God to reveal himself to the people he chose Abrahm, Isaac and Jacob who later renamed Israel after wrestling with God. It was this Israel who bore twelve sons who are now known as the Israelites. The law was given to these people through Moses on mount Sinai from Egypt where they were held captives. The book of Romans chapter 9:1-5 also confirm that the law was given to Israelites not to other tribes. "I speak the truth in Christ—I am not lying, my conscience confirms it through the Holy Spirit— 2 I have great sorrow and unceasing anguish in my heart. 3 For I could wish that I myself were cursed and cut off from Christ for the sake of my people, those of my own race, 4 the people of Israel. Theirs is the adoption to sonship; theirs the divine glory, the covenants, the receiving of the law, the temple worship and the promises. 5 Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of the Messiah, who is God over all, forever praised![a] Amen.

If you may wish to know the advantages of being under law in those days, read Deteronomy chapter 28:1-14 which reads; If you fully obey the LORD your God and carefully follow all his commands I give you today, the LORD your God will set you high above all the nations on earth. 2 All these blessings will come on you and accompany you if you obey the LORD your God:
3 You will be blessed in the city and blessed in the country.

4 The fruit of your womb will be blessed, and the crops of your land and the young of your livestock—the calves of your herds and the lambs of your flocks.

5 Your basket and your kneading trough will be blessed.

6 You will be blessed when you come in and blessed when you go out.

7 The LORD will grant that the enemies who rise up against you will be defeated before you. They will come at you from one direction but flee from you in seven.

8 The LORD will send a blessing on your barns and on everything you put your hand to. The LORD your God will bless you in the land he is giving you.

9 The LORD will establish you as his holy people, as he promised you on oath, if you keep the commands of the LORD your God and walk in obedience to him. 10 Then all the peoples on earth will see that you are called by the name of the LORD, and they will fear you. 11 The LORD will grant you abundant prosperity—in the fruit of your womb, the young of your livestock and the crops of your ground—in the land he swore to your ancestors to give you.

12 The LORD will open the heavens, the storehouse of his bounty, to send rain on your land in season and to bless all the work of your hands. You will lend to many nations but will borrow from none. 13 The LORD will make you the head, not the tail. If you pay attention to the commands of the LORD your God that I give you this day and carefully follow them, you will always be at the top, never at the bottom. 14 Do not turn aside from any of the commands I give you today, to the right or to the left, following other gods and serving them.

You and me had nothing to do with law. We were excluded from citizenship in Israel and foreigners to the covenants of the promise, without hope and without God in the world. The resultant of being not under law was as written on Deteronomy 28:15-68.

Having defined what sin is on top and what follows when you are under law and not under law, let me conclude by telling you that to die for your sins means to take away the curse which follows because of not being under law as quoted on Galatians chapter 3:7-18. To be continued.....
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Who decided what sins are and what could be defined as a sin?
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Your own mortality does.
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Stop trying to analyze it and just believe. The Bible is Holy Spirit inspired meaning God is a Spirit. there is nothing natural about him. don't be a doubting Thomas. The disciple, Thomas said and i'm paraphrasing, if i can (see) and (touch) where they drove the nail through his hands and feet then i will believe it. Jesus told him because he had seen he believe. What Jesus was saying to Thomas is that's not how the kingdom of God operates. The Bible says in Romans if we confess with our mouth and (believe) in our heart that God raised Jesus from the dead we are saved. This not about Jesus' salvation but ours and as much as he loves us, in my vernacular, he aint stressing. How i know? I believe the Bible that's how but for the doubters let me give a scripture reference. In John 10:27 says, "My sheep know my voice, and i know them, and they follow me". In a nutshell, either you (believe) the Bible or you don't. Hope that helps!
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Stop trying to analyze it and just believe. The Bible is Holy Spirit inspired meaning God is a Spirit. there is nothing natural about him. don't be a doubting Thomas. The disciple, Thomas said and i'm paraphrasing, if i can (see) and (touch) where they drove the nail through his hands and feet then i will believe it. Jesus told him because he had seen he believe. What Jesus was saying to Thomas is that's not how the kingdom of God operates. The Bible says in Romans if we confess with our mouth and (believe) in our heart that God raised Jesus from the dead we are saved. This not about Jesus' salvation but ours and as much as he loves us, in my vernacular, he aint stressing. How i know? I believe the Bible that's how but for the doubters let me give a scripture reference. In John 10:27 says, "My sheep know my voice, and i know them, and they follow me". In a nutshell, either you (believe) the Bible or you don't. Hope that helps!
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Yes, so now we receive the Work of the Cross for the penalty of our sins and we repent and get baptized in Jesus Name. We do this because the Bible tells us to... just like it tells us to love our enemies, feed the hungry, clothed the naked, house the homeless, visit the sick and those who are in prison for their Christian faith Etc.

We die to self and we are buried with Christ and we live by His Spirit dwelling within us. This is what is referred to as the "born-again" experience, and just as Jesus was resurrected from His death, we too shell be resurrected in His Kingdom when we die and one day we will be given resurrected bodies that will never grow old and will never die.

We see through a glass darkly but we are saved by Faith in whom we have placed our hope in... even the Lord Jesus Christ.
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It is not possible for someone else to carry your burden of sins. People comeout with innovative ways to redeem their sins. Christians say accept Jesus as your lord and he will take away your sins, Hindus say take a dip in holy Ganges and you are redeemed and Islamists don't even consider sins like killing others in the name of god, Islamists think jihad will take them to heaven.
It is very easy to prove my point. Let one extremely religious pastor bring his bible, let one similar Muslim bring his Quran and an extremist Hindu bring his Vedas. We all go to the river Ganges. I get four cups of water and put a few drops of potassium cyanide in those cups. I tell the pastor to shout Jesus is my savior 100 times, Muslim to recite his verses 100 times and Hindu recite his Vedas and stand in Ganges water. I put a sticker on Christians head " save me lord as Jesus is my savior" do that for Muslim with Allah is my savior. With Hindu Krishna is my savior.
Then instruct all to drink the mixture. I do not drink my cup as believe only my deeds can redeem me. In a couple minutes results will be out.
Nobody can redeem your sins.

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I am actually being sincere here. I was raised in a Southern Babtist home and have read the bible a fair share of times, but I am at a total loss when it comes to understanding how Jesus dying on the cross translates into me being forgiven for my "sins".

And please don't just post scripture that just states it matter-of-factly as if I should ignore that we live in a world where things have to correlate.

So they torture him, place him on a cross, and then wait for him to die. He passes away, is reborn and then ascends to heaven. Now I get forgiven if I have impatient thoughts? How does that work? Did he die, go to heaven and flip on a breaker switch, resurrect on earth to check if it worked and then just strolled on back to heaven? What happened during his death that made our sins forgivable?

It's like a father bursting through the door and telling his son that cursing is now allowed in the house because he hit a deer on the way home. How in the world is it connected?
 Quoting: Scrodiddles


1 Corinthians 15:20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. 15:21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming." Adam n eve ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil but they were commanded not to. This is what introduced death, which is why the cemeteries are full of dead bodies. The lord told adam the" day" you eat of the tree you shall surely die. A day to God is 1,000 yrs., which no man has ever lived. So that day we started dying. Christ came as a sacrifice, the lamb w/o blemish accepted by the father. Rose on the 3Rd day as an immortal free from death/sin. An ex of what will happen to all those who obey at the 1st or 2nd resurrection. This is what his death represents. Once you get your glorified/immortal body then you're saved. Until then, we're pressing toward salvation which comes at Christ return.
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God has allways demanded sacrafices for atonement of sins, Jesus fullfiled that for the world, without him, sacrafices would still be still required.
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oh! it was that good stuff from the cleaning supply house... You know.. the one with the scrubbing bubbles that smells so darn good!!!

I am pretty sure it comes in a green or blue bottle...
please try to tell me the truth...
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Have you received an answer to this yet OP? I've always wondered this myself.

The only type of conclusion I can come to is that if you accept him as your saviour that is when you are dissolved of sin, because he is the son of god he has the power to do that. The whole cross and resurrection is more just a display of power and proof he was who he said he was. I haven't read much of the bible so I could be wrong, please correct me otherwise.
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God has allways demanded sacrafices for atonement of sins, Jesus fullfiled that for the world, without him, sacrafices would still be still required.
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what kind of God requires sacrifices in the first place?
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Also by that same logic means everyone's sin is washed away regardless if they believe in him or not.
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IT didn't you still have KARMA.... and you still go to jail and can be murdered.

Enough said.

AFTER LIFE... which can NOT be proven.... GOTCH Ya!

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It is a human sacrifice that God required. That's about all I can come up with. Of course it makes no sense whatsoever, but then again, neither does that book.
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02/22/2014 09:55 AM
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Re: How did Jesus' death wash away our sins?
Jesus lived a sinless life yet was persecuted for his faith in God. He was a sacrifice, basically it's like this.. His death was a bounty for our freedom. Like in a movie, when the bad guy captures a bunch of innocent people and the hero offers himself as hostage to free all the innocents. Except we aren't innocent we are sinners. The only thing we need to do is admit that we are, admit that Jesus died for us and we will be saved from damnation .

But so many have turned from God that we are creating our own damned Earth.

I recommend reading Isaiah 9 and 10.
Peace4allmankind

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02/22/2014 10:09 AM
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Re: How did Jesus' death wash away our sins?
What Jesus did for us has nothing to do with our Earthly lives. If you turn from your sinful ways then you will have a place in the kingdom. The problem is that the truth has always been hidden. You can learn the truth but you have to ask God and try desire it. Slowly it will be revealed to u , whether or not u can accept it is another thing . We as a race have been deceived by our leaders and the churches. It was established long ago to keep control of the masses. There are books missing from the set of Bibles given to us from God. There is a book for us that was after revelations on how to rebuild our earth and change our destiny here. These secrets books were taken because it was the answer on how humans would create free energy using one conscious body and brain, one vibration. After revelations the human race is almost extinct though God saves those worthy to proceed to the new Earth. They use the book to fully develop into the next species which can live in both the 4th and 5th dimensions. We could be living that way now but the scales are uneven and hate is winning the darkness is getting stronger soon very soon they will overtake they light when this happens God help is all. There are rituals in the Bible for protection from this but u must read it.
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02/22/2014 10:11 AM
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Re: How did Jesus' death wash away our sins?
It only does if you know how it's applied. If you can't make the body and blood at the cross present, you're lost.
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02/22/2014 10:19 AM
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Re: How did Jesus' death wash away our sins?
God has allways demanded sacrafices for atonement of sins, Jesus fullfiled that for the world, without him, sacrafices would still be still required.
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what kind of God requires sacrifices in the first place?
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Not a divine one, that's for certain.





GLP