Dr Dan Burisch Information

Just to let everyone know

This morning at 10:30am I received a phone call from what I can only assume was none other then one Marci and Dan Burisch.

´A Round About´ and dare I say freakishly insane threat of some sort. Which goes to the very heart of psychological make up of these two people

The message was left on my answering machine which I have saved and documented as to from which phone number the call came. I will not give out verbatim detail nor a copy of it. In that my lawyer has informed me I may need this as evidence for later court action.

It starts out with a woman voice in the back ground giving a cue to a mans voice which I identify as Dan Burisch (from the numerous on-line interviews). The male voice goes into a account of the 1900´s Galveston, Texas Hurricane and its aftermath.

Its particular account, that this so called gentlemen recounts is one of a father and son caught in the Hurricane that were caught in the rising waters of the tidal surge. VERY graphically, the male voice tells of how the Father in order to save his son´s life. Nailed his son´s hands to the top of the Flag Pole that they were holding upon. The male voice takes great pleasure in recounting how the father nailed his Childs hands to top of the flag pole so that I assume the child wouldn´t be blow en away during the Hurricane. As well as the aftermath how the child was found alive and the Fathers body never recovered.

That this point the female´s voice cue´s the Male reading this and the phone call ends before the answer machine stopped recording.

The persons who have done so are VERY SICK INDIVIDUALS.

Perhaps you thought this would intimidate me from denouncing this case upon the Internet? It WON´T WORK. You have no idea who I am or how I was raised. My folks raised me not to fear Fascists or dyed in the wool hardcore Communists such as the former Soviet Union. My folks raised me to FIGHT for what is right, to FIGHT for what is moral and just. An if need be give my own life to that end. Tyrants of the world may indeed break the shell that is the body. But the SOUL is immortal and will stand with God in the afterlife to judge those that will come before him, I certainly don´t fear the two con artist scum bags out of Los Vegas attempted to perpetuate a UFO hoax! An I did not fear a true government spook I once confronted head on for violating my Civil Liberties when he tailed me across this city.

So I´m certainly not fear you two INSANE JOKES and SCUM BAGS LOSERS out of LV and the Wonder Twins of Canada and your little games of so called Black Ops. MJ-12 Agents.

Feel free to call back. I need another morning laugh.


Edgars F
Nightshade 09

Jay,

read up at SG, it´s all there.

Catch you later, I need a spliff or something......

Before I pull the last hair out.

This has been posted about previously and not a ´dickie bird´ at the time by anyone except Dondep and myself.

We shall commence with Dans post at SG......

PLEASE READ THE BIT ABOUT THE CONTRACT.



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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 3:22 am Post subject:


DAN

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Hi, everyone!

Marcia and myself just got off the phone with a new friend, about a country away from us. The "urgency" issue is now, for what we can do (which may be little but LOVE, Prayer, and effort) will be slowly coming to a close for us this night. I love meeting new people and making new friends!
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Bill: I am sure glad you do not intend to join a nonexistent cult! I have had worries in the past but that would immediately eclipse them! As I have said before, I am no ones leader aside from my own...as much as I can be even with that! If my brand of telling people that I love them, care about them, and cherish them bothers some: that´s fine.
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Frankly, my biggest problems right now are dealing with the business aspect of things. I really hate nothing (aside maybe from eating liver or fried parsnips! Yuck! ), however business and contractural items are right near hatred, somewhere between utter contempt and loathing! But, as it has been said, we should be from the world and not of it. So, as these days march ever forward and I am faced with "must signs", I will hold my breath, sign away and be done with it. Thank God Marcia and Deb are business people! If not I may have said "scr w it!" and handed it all away some time ago (all but the tones and the algorithm). As Marcia put it tonight, she expects I will be growing "some gills" with regard to the business issues as time goes by. Well, perhaps, maybe so. I can feel the pesky little gill slits starting on my neck now...they itch! -------------------------------------------------------------​------------------------

Bunny-chan:

First, your cat! I thought Cheezy made a statement... God, I do love cats! Dogs are fine, mind you, but a kitty...aaaaaah!

Your idea, believe it or not has already been entered into the plans, some time ago. Many photos, much film for background material, and many items are going to be used. What no one, publicly, has known until this time is that two of my personal coffee cups, I used up north, have been sent to me: my "Aquarius" cup and my "DIA" cup. (While I would have to confirm certain dates, it is totally possible that Tom may have identfied me as DIA because of that particular cup.) They are presently stored at a secrect location and will be brought out when the time is right. I have numerous other items as well.

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Boomer: I have no "plans" with regard to the idea I have, at this time. It will strictly depend on whether those around me can agree to it, and then whether those either within an easy travel distance or those coming here as a resort destination anyway, would even want to do it?

As I said, anything (obviously relating to the experiences I have had) is open. If I would be asked to declare names: I would. If I would be asked to declare the tone code, as said before, no bullshit answers, so I would say: it´s not your business. You see, some answers may not be to people´s liking, but reality is that way. I get it all the time. Obviously, transparency is one thing, and utter stupidity (giving away something that can harm people or NatSec) is another.

I just thought that, since people have said "come out with it" so much, I would offer it so, as Ed put it: ´the cats could have their fill.´

Some have already suggested that this take place in the internet. My answer is "No." On such serious matters as these, I prefer face to face with other people just like me. To be completely honest, the one person that I thought of, in this regard, was Uncle John. One way or the other, whether the ones around me allow or disallow it, I want to have some time with John to have a defined discussion of Rife. I have already debriefed, rather extensively, over the subject, but...

...I have the benefit of knowing something about the genius´, Dr. R.R. Rife´s, work that others may not...and it relates to my research. I cannot confirm it, at this time, but I "believe" that Rife kept certain things secret about his technique (ref. electromagnetism) for "THE SAME" reasons I don´t discuss certain "tones." As John is seemingly the most knowledgeable about Rife, here, perhaps we could flesh it out, and maybe discuss some of the import of John Crane´s (no relation whatsoever) contributions?

John: I am still listening, my heart is open (ref. the cancer work), my mind is as well...but we must discuss it in such a manner as to make progress. I am action and progress oriented. We´ll talk. I just need to see if those around me can set it up on the larger scale. If not, you and I will talk anyway...okay?

God Bless,

Dan


EDIT: Ed, remember: (as Harry Burisch, God rest his soul, used to say to me...)- "It is better to be pissed off, than pissed on!"
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"And so he drove the man out and posted at the east of the garden of Eden the cherubs and the flaming blade of a sword that was turning itself continually to guard the way to the tree of life." Gen. 3:24 NWT

And moving swiftly on to Dondeps post.

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A Tale of Good Intentions Gone Awry; a Tale For Learning Humility

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What transpired recently in the ongoing “Debriefing Drama” has more to do with basic human foibles, misunderstandings and misrepresentations, and apparently more than a little greed and pride.

Before the details, the reader should know a few things that are pertinent, such as the fact that all the individuals involved are involved as a result of Bill’s introductions. Ron Garner, despite the murmurings of his name here and there, was NOT involved in the debriefing fiasco, but his involvement DOES stem from Bill’s introduction of him to Dan in the 2002 – 2003 time period. The chief debriefer, whose name has not been made public (to my understanding), was ALSO introduced by Bill to Dan and Marci. A. and S. G., whose names ARE well-known at least to the distrustful cut-n-pasters, were ALSO introduced by Bill to both Dan and Marci. So when I said in the past that Bill is the “godfather” to the saga, the reader will hopefully appreciate the context.

Another important factor in this whole saga – and I refer to the Big Picture here, not just this chapter – is that some of my ‘sources’ (the reader witnessed a guest referencing an intercepted email) are independent of the Maji and/or the Illuminati, and have served as a sort of “checks and balances”. This goes to the heart of the distrust that some have had that I am merely a ‘pawn’ of a Majestic agenda to spin Disclosure. The Maji are frequently irritated by these independent sources, although they appear to benefit more often than not, and are even occasionally surprised. There are even those that are subordinate to the main factions, that serve in a support capacity for their superiors, and their own opinions and impressions are just as important to me (and to the ‘interested few’ that anticipate Disclosure) as that of the pooh-bahs that employ them. When I put together what they tell me, what the various organs of Majestic tell me, what common sense and intution tell me, and what is publicly available “hiding in plain sight”, I have a fairly accurate picture that isn’t a unilateral spin. I keep saying Majestic isn’t monolithic, and if the reader knew just how many of the Maj had their own agents lurking outside the debriefing area, they’d appreciate what I’m saying all the more. Having said this, the Debriefing is NOT a Majestic production. It is being TOLERATED, apparently because of the T9, but it is not an official production and as such the principals – Dan and Marci – are at the mercy of those who they approached to help.

The other factor that the reader should know is that yes, I had the second of what are now two phone calls (excluding an extremely brief patch-through under tightly-controlled circumstances) with Dan and Marci. I can assure you all that there has been no collusion in the matter of the “unauthorized” website we established, and in fact we have ‘paid through the nose’ to assemble it (together with help from some of you – I would credit a certain individual whose generosity has made it possible, but that same generosity would also ask anonymity). Dan merely wanted to determine the correspondence in question; once explained, he requested I keep it confidential, and I assured him that I would – so long as I can help establish what happened so that those following this story will know the truth of the matter. His sense of humor was still intact, nonetheless, and I opined that he has equal parts Adam Sandler and Vin Diesel. He’s a scientist, for chrissakes; his job is to ‘save the world’ by developing the Lotus and the Tones and such, not write the script of his life for a major Hollywood motion picture.

But that’s exactly what is being done. It boils down to the fact that Dan’s life isn’t a single 2-1/2 hour action-packed thriller, but could be treated equally and concurrently as a comic-book series, a mini-series for public television, a series of movies like” Rambo”, “Alien” or “Indiana Jones”…..a documentary or 12, a fictionalized novel, a serialized textbook, a DVD box-set, etc. How best for Dan’s story to be told to the world? And so it was friendships became involved.

Knowing that Dan and Marci aren’t getting any help from their Majestic superiors in this debriefing endeavor, one can understand them reaching out to friends….friends who are few and far between outside the black-ops world. In black-ops, they have ‘socials’ and events that are restricted to themselves, because it is extremely hard to carry on regular friendships with the ‘outside’ world. Starryeyes and I know exactly what was meant when this was explained to me, because even we ‘unsworn’ folks have had an increasingly hard time maintaining regular social discourse with regular folks because we either can’t tell them ‘things’ or if we do, their minds appear to shut down or they steer clear. In Dan’s case, one can see how much worse this can be. Think of it; he’s been controlled and guided and surveilled his entire adult life. From having a ‘posse’ fly him back and forth between SUNY in New York and Las Vegas, following him about as he attended his courses, having to swear a security oath that he adheres to even today to some degree out of a sense of security (no pun intended) and familiarity, not to mention his sense of patriotism. Having cameras on his every move, a radio that shows his whereabouts to his security detail….one gets the picture. Even when Majestic is forced to admit their lie to him, that him speaking freely will NOT change what happens in the future regarding his Lotus model being found and used to help cure cancer, and that he’s not only free of his onerous security oath but is expected to exercise his free speech, he seeks the comfort of familiarity.

Enter new ‘friends’. Non-Majestic friends. Friends introduced to him by Bill. Friends that soon begin manifesting the same sort of ‘hoarding’ of Dan to themselves as he has been used to by those in his ‘security’ detail. With his newfound freedom, following the signing of the Affidavit, and even a temporary appointment as a Maji himself, he knew he was expected to ‘talk’. To ‘tell the world’ himself, but this time doing it on his own and without executive orders from on high, except for the fact that his ‘telling’ had to be cleared by Majestic attorneys to make sure current natsec issues weren’t compromised (hence the negotiations with myself over the particulars of the Form 255 Request To Admit). To truly ‘tell’, it would take hours of debriefing so as to anticipate and answer that torrent of questions that would come from the first public utterances without him being drowned out by those questions.
These ‘friends’, we’re all certain, meant well. They must have, otherwise they wouldn’t have been able to develop a friendship with Dan and Marci in the first place. The problem was, MONEY was involved. BIG MONEY. Disclosure and Hollywood when put together with the kind of story-book life such as Dan has had, meant a LOT of money was at stake. Now all the players assure the world that NO, they ALL meant well for Dan (and Marci). They were FRIENDS! They’ve even provided a belt for Dan for when he needed one (the metaphor is subtly apt, as it turns out). They provided the space, and the chief debriefer provided a camera. Rented by him, as it turns out (sorry, FFnF, but we covered this earlier.) But this fact of cost was glossed over; Marci and Dan thought friends were providing all out of the goodness of their hearts, as they all meant well for Dan and merely wanted the best for him and the best for Disclosure. Well.

The individuals providing the space were also changing, as people, as time and the debriefing went on. They made disparaging remarks about having Dan being able to post on the forums, and even went so far as to restrict his social movements in the real-time world as well as the cyber world where this story is taking place. The principal individual of which I speak had originally approached me, following the signing of the Affidavit, offering friendship among the ‘select’ group of friends around Dan. I felt honored initially and genuinely heartened by sharing commiseration of life’s tragedies and an appreciation of Dan’s position in this new world of his. However, after I posted the transcript of the surveillance tape which had been sent to me in which my case was being discussed by Dan and Marci (prior to the Form 255 and Affidavit, and which transcripts will soon appear on tonicvision.tv) , this individual sent me a blistering and threatening email, suggesting I should be prosecuted for having published the contents of said tapes. He even suggested that the readers of the Golden Thread were somehow corrupt because they didn’t call out in anger when Bennie the Raven had offered me the key to the storehouse in Canada where the original plates and remaining copies of ”Eagles Disobey: The Case For Inca City, Mars” were. No wonder; he was the new owner of the copyright and thus this was a personal affront to him which outweighed the public interest in Disclosure. Suffice to say, I felt absolutely terrible and saddened by apparently having offended this new ‘friend’ at the time. I offered an apology, but in retrospect perhaps this was for the best, because as I have now heard, he had become almost unbearablly controlling of Dan, dismissive of his former friend who had actually been the one to introduce him to Dan, and scoffing of all the forums to the point where he couldn’t understand why Bill even posted to them any more. His behavior during debriefings even bordered on “grilling”. Now there is an issue where these ‘friends’, including the chief debriefer, are in possession of the master tapes of the debriefing and there is a real question of ownership and rights ….. since the ‘friends’ provided the space, the camera, the recording tape, etc…..(even the belt!) and no paper was ever signed.

So what went wrong here? First of all, NEVER DO BUSINESS WITH FRIENDS! I learned this a long time ago, but even those of us that have learned this continue to do this despite what we know. The debriefing WAS business, as much as it involved friendship. Dan’s story, when the right people are approached in the right way by the right people with the right words and the right presentation, will recognize immediately that this is the biggest story in our lifetime. It doesn’t take “cultists” to conclude that. Did Thomas Edison have a “cult”? Nikola Tessa? Albert Einstein? Galileo? NO….it was a matter of their pushing the envelope of society to the point where their discoveries were “disturbing” to the status quo. How many humans have had a relationship with an extraterrestrial, allegedly from 52,000 years in our future? How many scientistsw have discovered something that will save millions of lives in the future? How many individuals have even allegedly had a “cherubim” or “light being” visit him and communicate matters from the spiritual world? How many humans have helped negotiate a treaty with at least three extraterrestrial races regarding an impending catastrophe that – if nothing is done – will result in a near-extinction of humanity?

Never mind; we know the answer. The ‘cognitive dissonance’ of the human psyche is such that this knowledge and awareness is so disturbing to the public that it simply can’t be told outright. But I’m getting away from the subject, which is as tawdry and mundane as Dan’s life is so fantastical as to be unbelievable. The debriefers that were involved in helping Dan tell his story – as I said at the outset – meant well. They are human, after all. The possibility of Big Money (granted, they were all ‘just friends, meaning well, wanting the best’ for him) and the proximity to power (my opinion, not confirmed) has now changed the dynamic; Dan and Marci wish to keep those friendships, but recognize that the debriefing is too important to leave to friendship, too important not to ensure that the individuals involved are known and vetted in the industry that will make that debriefing valid to the larger public. Hopefully in the days ahead friendships will mend and the debriefing will not only get back on track but get the fast-track and we can all benefit before it’s too late.
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If what you contemplate doing doesn´t hurt, please find a way to make it help.

AND WHAT DID I SAY TO DONDEP???


Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 9:54 pm Post subject:

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Well presented Don.

We all know what to expect now.

"Its just another film"

"We told you this already"

"It´s all about money"

Etc.

So, it looks like it´s gonna be a hard time ahead.


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And people say it comes as a surprise???

Does this mark the end of the Dan Burisch story?

I doubt it.

In pursuit of the truth, here´s Bill Hamiltons most recent post.

I guess it´s about now I say it......only time will tell.

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You are right Boomer. I did not say Dan´s story is a hoax as I cannot prove that.

BTW, IMHO, Ron Garner is not even qualified to make movie deals and Winston isn´t either. However, I just got feedback from a friend who is in that industry and also knows Ron Garner and things do not look cool at all.

That pathetic photo of Dan´s diploma that is blurred just worsens things.

Once this story did have promise, but now it will go nowhere IMO.

Other insiders I have been in touch with communicate differently than Dan and most are no-nonsense skeptics believe it or not and I cannot convince one other insider of Dan´s authenticity. However, information passed to me by anonymous sources around Dan proved correct, but no smoking gun ever emerged in the three year time span I devoted to this.

I have also decided to cancel my book contract and that cost me money and will net me another loss. However, I feel I have to stand on principle and I cannot condone the action of first shunning Ron Garner (he was not allowed contact with Dan by Marci) then turning around to negotiate with him in secret without consulting with the rest of us. Ron was the one who also palmed off a science fiction alien image on UFO magazine representing this as some image Dan gave me depciting the J-Rod. Ron cannot evaluate data and fell flat on his face with the Jonathon Reed case and was hoping I would continue to lend my reputation in ufology to his venture for money. I knew this was why he was motivated to get involved when he turned to Dan´s mother Dodie Crain upon not being allowed further contact with Dan and proposed to her to write a book about her son and follow this up with a motion picture. He also suggested to Dodie that she could see a lawyer and supboena Debbie and Dan to court over Debbie´s daughter and her granddaughter by Dan´s marriage and when Ron´s ploy failed, he saw an opening to wrangle the deal with Marci. Marci, in need of money, and having lost her job in LV, and having traveled (allegedly) first to D.C., then Canada returned to Las Vegas to pull Dan out of his debrief with Alan and Sandy (Starryeyes says Alan ios controlling, but he cannot hold a candle to the control Marci has over Dan´s life -- much more control than Deb) and announced also to Winston that his contributions were no longer needed.

I am standing on principle here and cannot be a party to or condone this kind of behavior. Ron threatened me with legal action if I did not cease and desist from showing Dan´s 2003 interview though I have been advised that he did not have a legal leg to stand on as Dan´s story is already in th public domain. I told Ron to not wastew his time and money on something that would net him nothing in the end and he said he had hired the best detective in the country and since Ron brokers real estate deals he occasionally has funds to spend, but has also been dead broke at times.

This is the truth as far as I know it and with my getting hammered not just from critics in the ufo community but fairly well-authenticated "insiders" I have promised my wife that I will simply let go of the rope as one does in a tug of war when all that is holding up the guy on their end is your resistance.

I have also been informed that Bill Birnes of UFO magazine holds the rights to the Bob Lazar story and screenplay. Maybe Ron, buddies with Bill, would like to pick up the option on that too.

I will sign you over now U.J.

skywatcher

Boomerang has a bad bad case of denial.

Not so fast my lizzie friend!

No denial here. What is there to deny exactly?

Dan Burisch is still on track with the debrief, the people that hadn´t realised that the dealings were underway to get it out on film are now fully aware.

Or haven´t you read at SG........


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>>Dan Burisch is still on track with the debrief,<<

Didn´t you mean to say movie script?

Believe whatever feels right to you my friend.

a joke of course :

If i were them i would get those pictures first schredded and then the pieces gloued together before posting.

Amongst many other oddities this could do with further explanation:



"Marci, in need of money, and having lost her job in LV,"



Which job? The casino security job? Why did she lose it?

She is allegedly very NOT retired from Majestic - she´s up to her eyes in ´tonal healing´ etc ........


She has further alleged that Majestic ´takes care´ of all their needs - so why the need for $$$$ from Garner (or the highest bidder???)


Why the need to turn it into a movie at all?

Why not just get on with it and Tell the World???

I am afraid there is not much to "Tell the World"

And besides, what the stargaters don´t "Tell the World", is being told by the nature at the moment.

LOL BTN

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Kiwi,

Amongst many other oddities this could do with further explanation:



"Marci, in need of money, and having lost her job in LV,"


In reply:-

As this is a statement from Bill Hamilton, it would be an excellent idea for you to ask him these questions, please post the response when received.

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Which job? The casino security job? Why did she lose it?

Ditto

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She is allegedly very NOT retired from Majestic - she´s up to her eyes in ´tonal healing´ etc ........

Ditto

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She has further alleged that Majestic ´takes care´ of all their needs - so why the need for $$$$ from Garner (or the highest bidder???)

Ditto

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Why the need to turn it into a movie at all?

Why not just get on with it and Tell the World???

This one I can respond to.

To tell the world requires the ability to pass on information in an easily digestible format. It´s probably the best way to show information in the correct context and sequence. Most people can follow a film, you know yourself how difficult it is to follow the material available in the libraries.

A picture paints a thousand words.

The debriefing is all about telling the world. What do you want to occur and can you make a better suggestion Sue?

Don´t agree on this.

"To tell the world requires the ability to pass on information in an easily digestible format. It´s probably the best way to show information in the correct context and sequence. Most people can follow a film, you know yourself how difficult it is to follow the material available in the libraries.

A picture paints a thousand words."

People who saw the movie The day after tomorrow, relaxed themselves by saying "it´s only a film"

Remember that when Clinton was talking about the mars rock that would contain micro organisms, the whole world listened carefully, but all those films with alien life in other worlds are just what they are called , science fiction to them. there are a few souls out there who really appreciate a movie, event it is presented in a sci-fi way.

IMHO, that way is not the proper way of telling the world. It takes a leader to do this and the chimp who is ´ruling´ he US, is, again IMHo, not capable of doing such a thing. He even has to ask if he may go to the bathroom for Gods sake.

1247,

It is your prerogative to disagree.

The Great Purification has begun. It actually started 1998. But now are we to start to REALLY feel it.

The warning were not heeded, the crop circles, the ozone hole, the melting of the North Pole.

Tonight the highways out of Galvestion are clogged for seven miles. They are literally in panic pushing off stalled cars into the ditches. In a matter of week its projected that gas will reach of $5.00 a gallon. In LA, California they recorded a 4.9 Earthquake.

Katrina, and Rita are just be the first stirrings of the child in the womb of the Great Mother who has now become the Death Crone.

Before this ends. Every man, woman and child will fall to their knees and cry out "Oh God What Have Done." as the stormy skys break forth with the Mothers Wrath.

Nightshade 09










Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1247
9/22/2005
6:16 pm EDT Re: Dr Dan Burisch Information

I am afraid there is not much to "Tell the World"

And besides, what the stargaters don´t "Tell the World", is being told by the nature at the moment.

New avatar....new persona?

Seasons change as the great wheel of the year turns.

My battles with darkness are over Burisch stands vanquished.

It is time for me to return from hense I came.

A Watcher

Nightshade 09






Boomerang
User ID: 1068
9/22/2005
7:52 pm EDT

Send Private Msg
Add to Buddy List Re: Dr Dan Burisch Information

New avatar....new persona?

To Guest upon Stargate I did not say it was the end of the world. I did say that the great purification has begun. A time of learning repentence and strongholds of egos brought down to crumbling dust.

But if indeed you wish for dates. Very well August 17th 2096ad. The very last foot of the very last of mankind will step off the Earth and journey into the stars. What will be left upon this nursery? Shall be the songs of birds and winds blowing the trees. Perhaps mankinds journey will one day take it home again, perhaps not, that is fate to decide not man.

Nightshade 09

Before I depart....

[link to img356.imageshack.us]

11:11:11 :: puts finger to my lips "The Sleepers Awaken... Sssshhhhhh

Now I return to just plain old Nightshade 09 ;)

New avatar Shady?

To Boomer

Was Ron Garner at Rachel when you went there last year?


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A few open questions:

What about Ron Garner´s link to Jim Parsons who was the handler for Marshall Applewhite and Bonnie Nettles?


How long has Ron been ´looking after´ Don and Toni?

To follow up on an emaail discussion from 12 months ago. Toni I don´t remeber you answering this but has Jim Parsons ever been in contact with you?



I also hear that Ron is paying for the legal costs for Don and Toni now, what do they have to do (or learn) in return?


How long has Ron been on the scene with Dan and Marci? I know he filmed the 2003 interview but was he ´around´ earlier than that?


What was Marci´s initial objectives as instructed by her blackop´s handlers?

How has that changed over the years?



Many, many more inquiring minds want to know these answers and more. But we´re patient we can wait:)

"I thought you were a friend of Dans?"


I thought you were not here to make friends, boomerang?
Are you now the upset and confused one?
Boo-hoo-hoo.


Must revisit my earlier assumption that part of Hamilton´s involvement was about money. It was for a while, but he smelled a rat on time and cancelled his book deal!!
Hats off to you bill, for not pushing through with this.

Not like this.

Maybe it´s time for some to acknowledge, just as Mjc did(hats off to your being a man about that!), that pursuing the angle of the involvement of Ron garner, was the right angle to take.
And now boomer wants to assert we don´t read?
I/we´ve been targetting this ever since the trouble over the rights to the first video.

Tongue in cheek again, boom.
It´s you that doesn´t read, and shit on people who pursue angles you don´t like.

Well, we were right about garner,
And right about burisch, what a turd/loser.

If my wife flips me the birdie once, she´ll be sleeping in a motel.
And that would be my nice side.
To be married to such a bitch is very telling.

I snuck in the back door

In answer to Boomers q about the photos etc.

I checked them out. What are they supposed to show that can´t be photoshopped?


I made a pic for ya re: your convo with Nightshade re: MIB´s. You won´t have to set foot in the forum to view it::stoner:
[link to eaglesdisobey.org]



Did you know that Robert Collins has removed the Dan Burisch section from his website?

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and while Traveler is here,, does anyone from the somewhat loonie brigade want to bring up, and deal with, their issues with the owners (and mods) past and present... and Destiny ....and Nightshade and the CIA,.... MI6.... KGB mossad or whatever. By ´loonie´ I mean dondep, Toni and Tex littlefield, Cass, etc etc ad nauseum and their paranoia, yet they still post here WTF!!!!!

Able to log-in again.
(screen flickers??)

Anyways..., couldn´t 1324 be Ronny G. himself?

Let´s hope everyone knows of Dr. Reed...., f.i.!


pretty cool pic, Kate!

re Collins: It´s going fast now...downhill.


The ´only´ way this could have come out was via a press-conference with Burisch or a court-case with the TESTIMONY(Not a silly debriefingpaper) of Burisch(as he promised me)

NOT a movie.

And to think that otherwise the people can´t handle it, is bullocks!
This stance is just as much representative for TPTB today, they use the same excuse.
Yes, the same excuse, and that makes you all very ´I am better then they´ kinda people.

This is not about ´panic´..., but about the people being ´outraged´ when they find out!
They are not dumb! And certainly not 50-year old brookings-scared.
Playing the people for ´too dumb to handle it´ is Aristocratic.....at best.

The fact that Burisch lied re the lukilu is not something you can blame the public for(oh, they don´t understand etc)

Don´t turn the tables.

To me, a boy in the Phillipines has as much right to the truth as I have, and should have it available for free.
You can talk all you want about how this is not so, but at the end of the line it izz all about that.
IF Burisch testifies FOR REAL(again, not a debrief-vid or paper), it will carry around the whirld.(and many talkshows f.i. will have him)
For free, so useless eaters(maybe even abductees/victims!) will have more peace of mind, more dots connected and more sleep at night.
This should not be a case of have´s and have-not´s.(but it turned out like that eh???)

Now that´s a legacy.

Ps, what´s the percentage for the cherubim?

So can someone sum up the latest for me? Does this mean the Burisch story was a hoax all along for a movie? Has Dondep been duped? Whats going on, condensed?

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1496
9/23/2005
3:07 am EDT Re: Dr Dan Burisch Information

So can someone sum up the latest for me? Does this mean the Burisch story was a hoax all along for a movie? Has Dondep been duped? Whats going on, condensed?


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I feel like having a stab at that one but I just had a stubbie that went right to me ´ed...so

I´ve done the beginning of a cliffnotes on my front page [link to eaglesdisobey.org] will update more next week.

If what I say below is garbled well, I won´t be held responsible:)


Heaven´s gate, Ron Garner, Jim Parsons.......google, William Lyne goes to Roswell for more info

Bill Hamilton says enough and leaves....again

and so do Rick Doty and Kit Green and Rob Collins, putting distance between them and Burisch case.

Ron Garner now handler for dondep,Burisch and marci under the guise of ´movie director´.

Court case a sham, as ´maji´ say they won´t harrass dondep anymore and it´s safe to come home. Marci tries to encourage Don to go home, but no go as dondep believes in the eschaton (sp?)I´m sure that´s not stated as the reason for refugee status.

Ron Garner paying dondep´s legal costs...


Urm I think I´m lost but I´m sure there´s more.... much more.

´Ron Garner paying dondep´s legal costs..."

Yes, LOL, for what?
There is no ´immigration-issue´, and I believe there never was.
There was NO reason to leave the USA(see Marci´s comment), nor is there any reason for them to stay in Canada any longer.
Bye-bye case, if I was a judge.
I wouldn´t even go into ´burisch´, that being an American issue alltogether.
I would sent you straight home.

Eschatological issues is more like it, IMO.

And yes, earth changes were here for a while, way before burisch, and now they use them to confirm burisch! Ludicrous.

The one thing that did stomp me was Burisch talking about the USA going back to the moon, before there was a public announcement(that we know of of course).

Seems we have the comedy double act.

WTF are you doing on MY thread? Go play at ED where you have control.

LMAO

Go away, He´s not the messiah, he´s a very naughty boy.

I spent ages on that picture for you
Did you like it:)