| Users Online Now: 1,609 (Who's On?) | Visitors Today: 730,795 | |
| Pageviews Today: 1,244,550 | Threads Today: 481 | Posts Today: 8,606 |
| 01:58 PM | ||
| Users Online Now: 1,609 (Who's On?) | Visitors Today: 730,795 | |
| Pageviews Today: 1,244,550 | Threads Today: 481 | Posts Today: 8,606 |
| 01:58 PM | ||
You silly Sabbath Observers............ | |
| Sword0fGideon
Offer Upgrade  User ID: 1465307  United States07/13/2011 02:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Sword0fGideon
(OP) User ID: 1465307 United States07/13/2011 02:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation |  Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well. This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them. The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends. Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers. Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them. And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter. Which is insanity! oxxxxx§:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+> |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1465656  Australia07/13/2011 02:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| servant of The Most High User ID: 1141097 United States07/13/2011 02:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "the only commandment John gave us was an old one, to love one another......." You mean Yahshua (Yeshua)? He also said. "You will love your God with all your heart all your mind all your soul." Then he said the love one another. You should concern yourself with what Christ himself said. "If you love Me, you will keep My commandments." "Don't misunderstand why I have come. I did not come to abolish the law of Moses or the writings of the prophets. No, I came to accomplish their purpose." "'Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfil. (Verse 18) For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. (Verse 19) Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 5:17-19)." "Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven" Yeshua revered it, loved it, obeyed it, and brought it to fruition. He fulfilled the law’s prophetic utterances regarding Himself (Luke 24:44). Christ fulfilled the demands of the Mosaic law, which called for perfect obedience under threat of a “curse” (see Galatians 3:10, 13). In this sense, the law’s divine design will ever have an abiding effect. It will always accomplish the purpose for which it was given. Whats wrong with the keeping the Sabbath? Isnt that when the original church worshiped? (Christ didnt rise on a sunday.) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1460424 United States07/13/2011 03:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Numbers 15:29 But anyone who sins defiantly, whether native-born or alien, blasphemes the LORD, and that person must be cut off from his people. The real question is not whether to keep or not the sabbath but WHEN is the real sabbath. Isaiah 66:23 "And it shall be from new moon to new moon And from sabbath to sabbath, All mankind will come to bow down before Me," says the LORD. |
| servant of The Most High User ID: 1141097 United States07/13/2011 03:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1460424 United States07/13/2011 03:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Real Sabbath is sundown friday to sundown saturday. (I think. Correct me if I am wrong.) Quoting: servant of The Most High 1141097I don´t know for sure hence cannot correct you. Anyway, please read here further: [link to www.thefacebookproxy.com] We all have to call on God to reveal the truth, once for all. |
| servant of The Most High User ID: 1141097 United States07/13/2011 03:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Real Sabbath is sundown friday to sundown saturday. (I think. Correct me if I am wrong.) Quoting: servant of The Most High 1141097I don´t know for sure hence cannot correct you. Anyway, please read here further: [link to www.thefacebookproxy.com] We all have to call on God to reveal the truth, once for all. Thanks for your input. I have spoken to some old school hard core Jews. They say its Friday at sundown to saturday at sundown and they have kept this up since Moses. I suggest practicing this unless you find something more conclusive. Most importantly follow the teachings of Christ. |
| James User ID: 1465852 United States07/13/2011 04:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1460424 United States07/13/2011 04:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Real Sabbath is sundown friday to sundown saturday. (I think. Correct me if I am wrong.) Quoting: servant of The Most High 1141097I don´t know for sure hence cannot correct you. Anyway, please read here further: [link to www.thefacebookproxy.com] We all have to call on God to reveal the truth, once for all. Thanks for your input. I have spoken to some old school hard core Jews. They say its Friday at sundown to saturday at sundown and they have kept this up since Moses. I suggest practicing this unless you find something more conclusive. Most importantly follow the teachings of Christ. Excuse me ... the link provided probably does not work. Here is it again and corect: [link to hope-of-israel.org] |
| Sword0fGideon
(OP) User ID: 1466247 United States07/13/2011 11:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The law of Moses written in a book is different than the 10C law of God written on tables of stone. Quoting: James 1465852Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart. that was covered......... Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well. This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them. The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends. Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers. Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them. And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter. Which is insanity! oxxxxx§:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+> |
| Daniel's Seventieth Seven User ID: 1071051 United States07/13/2011 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Needles Eye
User ID: 1393276 United States07/13/2011 11:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 16 And, behold , one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do , that I may have eternal life? 17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. 18 He saith unto him, Which ? Jesus said , Thou shalt do no murder , Thou shalt not commit adultery , Thou shalt not steal , Thou shalt not bear false witness , 19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet? 21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast , and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. 22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful : for he had great possessions. Quoting: Sword0fGideonwhich laws do you see written here? there are 1050 commands in the new testament, John in 1 john tells you in 1:7 "i write no new commandment" how come only certain christians see this, and understand????? i know y'all hate paul, but wether you believe or not, its actually the Holy Spirit putting pauls fingers on the quill and ink to write these words on parchment. 2peter 1:19-21 19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed , as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn , and the day star arise in your hearts: 20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. and as much as you dislike paul, peter even endorses his writtings, 2peter 3:15-16 15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; 16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest , as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. daniel pointed this out to me.... Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart. So much for the stone tablet theory............. the enigma of paul is called poetic justice. being a pharisee, persecuting the church. and God choosing the most least likely person in creation to go around to the gentiles, and preach a gospel of Jesus without the old testament laws.......... and yet the sabbath observers are trying to defend themselves by doing the opposite of paul.... LOL the only commandment John gave us was an old one, to love one another....... he wasnt telling us to do the old commandments other than what the Lord stated already. its a new contract, one of grace, not the law of the torah. galatians 3:10 10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written , Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. 11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. 12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them. Romans 14:5 5 One man esteemeth one day above another : another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. and heres the nail in y'all's coffin............. acts 15:5-6, for one, Luke wrote acts. for another, read is very carefully. 5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed , saying , That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses. 6 And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter. and heres their decision............... 7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up , and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe . 8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness , giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us; 9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. 10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear ? 11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved , even as they. Amen brother!! The things which are impossible with men are possible with God. |
| Sword0fGideon
(OP) User ID: 1466247 United States07/13/2011 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "the only commandment John gave us was an old one, to love one another......." Quoting: servant of The Most High 1141097You mean Yahshua (Yeshua)? He also said. "You will love your God with all your heart all your mind all your soul." Then he said the love one another. You should concern yourself with what Christ himself said. "If you love Me, you will keep My commandments." "Don't misunderstand why I have come. I did not come to abolish the law of Moses or the writings of the prophets. No, I came to accomplish their purpose." "'Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfil. (Verse 18) For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. (Verse 19) Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 5:17-19)." "Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven" Yeshua revered it, loved it, obeyed it, and brought it to fruition. He fulfilled the law’s prophetic utterances regarding Himself (Luke 24:44). Christ fulfilled the demands of the Mosaic law, which called for perfect obedience under threat of a “curse” (see Galatians 3:10, 13). In this sense, the law’s divine design will ever have an abiding effect. It will always accomplish the purpose for which it was given. Whats wrong with the keeping the Sabbath? Isnt that when the original church worshiped? (Christ didnt rise on a sunday.) acts 15:5-6, for one, Luke wrote acts. for another, read is very carefully. 5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed , saying , That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses. 6 And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter. and heres their decision............... 7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up , and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe . 8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness , giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us; 9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. 10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear ? 11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved , even as they. this was covered...... the intent isnt to stop people from having a sabbath on the sabbath. the intent is to show that it doesnt matter which day one chooses to have a sabbath. the intent is to tear down walls that self righteous sabbath keepers have erected as a barrier to separate themselves from the rest of the flock. you know, doctrines that divide and all of that. the intent is to expose the truth so those who dont or cant keep a sabbath day of rest, need not feel guilt that you sabbath day worshippers force upon them. and it is also to help those who are weaker or easily mislead in the faith to stand upon truth. strengthening them instead of tearing them down.......... Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well. This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them. The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends. Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers. Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them. And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter. Which is insanity! oxxxxx§:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+> |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1466164 United States07/13/2011 12:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | AMEN THE ONLY THING THAT COUNTS IS FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST EXPRESSING ITSELF BY LOVE IN REGARD TO ONE DAY THIS DAY THAT DAY BUT THEY ARE NOTHING IN REALITY FOR EVERY DAY BELONGS TO CHRIST AND CHRIST BELONGS TO GOD FOR CHRIST IS THE SABBATH << Colossians 2 >> King James Version 1For I would that ye knew what great conflict I have for you, and for them at Laodicea, and for as many as have not seen my face in the flesh; 2That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; 3In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge. 4And this I say, lest any man should beguile you with enticing words. 5For though I be absent in the flesh, yet am I with you in the spirit, joying and beholding your order, and the stedfastness of your faith in Christ. 6As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him: 7Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving. 8Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. 10And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power: 11In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ: 12Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead. 13And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; 14Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; 15And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. 16Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: 17Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. 18Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, 19And not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God. 20Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances, 21(Touch not; taste not; handle not; 22Which all are to perish with the using;) after the commandments and doctrines of men? 23Which things have indeed a shew of wisdom in will worship, and humility, and neglecting of the body; not in any honour to the satisfying of the flesh. << Colossians 2 >> |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1466164 United States07/13/2011 12:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Sword0fGideon
(OP) User ID: 1466247 United States07/13/2011 12:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051 :) hey daniel guess im gonna haft to share my email address with ya. apparently i have accomplished what i set out to do. i just recieved a call to go to work. so im uncertain when i will be able to come back and visit, probably will be hit and miss for a while maybe........ Last Edited by Sword0fGideon on 07/13/2011 12:19 PM Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well. This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them. The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends. Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers. Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them. And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter. Which is insanity! oxxxxx§:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+> |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1387399 United States07/13/2011 12:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "the only commandment John gave us was an old one, to love one another......." Quoting: servant of The Most High 1141097You mean Yahshua (Yeshua)? He also said. "You will love your God with all your heart all your mind all your soul." Then he said the love one another. You should concern yourself with what Christ himself said. "If you love Me, you will keep My commandments." "Don't misunderstand why I have come. I did not come to abolish the law of Moses or the writings of the prophets. No, I came to accomplish their purpose." "'Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfil. (Verse 18) For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. (Verse 19) Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 5:17-19)." "Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven" Yeshua revered it, loved it, obeyed it, and brought it to fruition. He fulfilled the law’s prophetic utterances regarding Himself (Luke 24:44). Christ fulfilled the demands of the Mosaic law, which called for perfect obedience under threat of a “curse” (see Galatians 3:10, 13). In this sense, the law’s divine design will ever have an abiding effect. It will always accomplish the purpose for which it was given. Whats wrong with the keeping the Sabbath? Isnt that when the original church worshiped? (Christ didnt rise on a sunday.)  |
| Daniel's Seventieth Seven User ID: 1071051 United States07/13/2011 12:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051:) hey daniel guess im gonna haft to share my email address with ya. apparently i have accomplished what i set out to do. i just recieved a call to go to work. so im uncertain when i will be able to come back and visit, probably will be hit and miss for a while maybe........ Congrats on the work! Just sent a book to your email. But you may want to edit out your address before Mr. Neim777 gets it:) . |
| Sword0fGideon
(OP) User ID: 1466247 United States07/13/2011 12:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051:) hey daniel guess im gonna haft to share my email address with ya. apparently i have accomplished what i set out to do. i just recieved a call to go to work. so im uncertain when i will be able to come back and visit, probably will be hit and miss for a while maybe........ Congrats on the work! Just sent a book to your email. But you may want to edit out your address before Mr. Neim777 gets it:) . theres a spam button but ill edit anyways Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well. This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them. The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends. Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers. Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them. And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter. Which is insanity! oxxxxx§:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+> |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1387399 United States07/13/2011 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | John 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love. Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. Matthew 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. (The last time I looked, the earth is still here.) Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law. |
| wisc_natureboy
User ID: 1464882 United States07/13/2011 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I care not so much what other folks do. But, more times than naught, I find myself reading the Bible on Saturdays than I do on Sundays. Plus, I like 7th Day'ers mode of worship, even though I am Christianed an Eastern Orthodox. To follow all of the Torah's laws outlined in Leviticus, to me, seems ridiculous. I am to murder my bride if I discover her not to be a virgin? Ummm, no. No murdering from me. ;-`) We all breathe the same air. .-.. --- ...- . / .- .-.. .-.. |
| Sword0fGideon
(OP) User ID: 1466247 United States07/13/2011 12:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1387399John 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love. Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. Matthew 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. (The last time I looked, the earth is still here.) Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law. read the original post, i dont expect all of you to actually understand it. so i underlined key areas to help you see and understand. kinda like emphasizing...... they were men lead by the Holy Spirit, and both Jesus the Son and the Holy Spirit do the Fathers will. its a new covenant. Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well. This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them. The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends. Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers. Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them. And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter. Which is insanity! oxxxxx§:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+> |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1451332 United States07/13/2011 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Op, I agree with you on most of your points and that we should not have to observe this as a compulsion with many ordinances to follow, etc. However, I think anyone that believes in scripture ought to keep the Sabbath Holy as God set it as such hundreds of years before the Ten Commandments. "Genesis 2 1 Thus the heavens and the earth were completed in all their vast array. 2 By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested from all his work. 3 Then God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1466292 United States07/13/2011 12:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Paul continued to practice the Law including the Sabbath even after believing in Messiah. A great example is in Acts 21 where Paul participates in a Nazirite vow to prove it. You can read about this vow in Numbers 6. Paul didn't participate in pagan activities such as Christmas or Easter, but kept the Almighty's Holy Days. I had never experienced as much peace in my life as I did after I began to enter into the Rest of the 4th commandment. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1466164 United States07/13/2011 12:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Op, I agree with you on most of your points and that we should not have to observe this as a compulsion with many ordinances to follow, etc. However, I think anyone that believes in scripture ought to keep the Sabbath Holy as God set it as such hundreds of years before the Ten Commandments. Quoting: -Samson-"Genesis 2 1 Thus the heavens and the earth were completed in all their vast array. 2 By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested from all his work. 3 Then God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done. DONT YOU KNOW WHO JESUS IS? HE IS THE REST |
| Sword0fGideon
(OP) User ID: 1466247 United States07/13/2011 12:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Op, I agree with you on most of your points and that we should not have to observe this as a compulsion with many ordinances to follow, etc. However, I think anyone that believes in scripture ought to keep the Sabbath Holy as God set it as such hundreds of years before the Ten Commandments. Quoting: -Samson-"Genesis 2 1 Thus the heavens and the earth were completed in all their vast array. 2 By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested from all his work. 3 Then God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done. ok, but there was never a command to observe that sabbath either. no command to observe till abraham. and then again with moses. perhaps a study into cause and effect maybe, israel got it after leaving egypt because they were slaves, its to remind them what they was delivered from. if you want to follow the sabbath, then do it cause you want not because you are compelled by others. but you shouldnt judge others cause they dont either. Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well. This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them. The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends. Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers. Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them. And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter. Which is insanity! oxxxxx§:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+> |
| Sword0fGideon
(OP) User ID: 1466247 United States07/13/2011 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Paul continued to practice the Law including the Sabbath even after believing in Messiah. A great example is in Acts 21 where Paul participates in a Nazirite vow to prove it. You can read about this vow in Numbers 6. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1466292Paul didn't participate in pagan activities such as Christmas or Easter, but kept the Almighty's Holy Days. I had never experienced as much peace in my life as I did after I began to enter into the Rest of the 4th commandment. paul was also circumcized under the law, it is a mark of the covenant. gentiles dont fall under that category Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well. This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them. The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends. Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers. Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them. And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter. Which is insanity! oxxxxx§:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+> |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1466164 United States07/13/2011 12:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1466164 United States07/13/2011 12:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Paul continued to practice the Law including the Sabbath even after believing in Messiah. A great example is in Acts 21 where Paul participates in a Nazirite vow to prove it. You can read about this vow in Numbers 6. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1466292Paul didn't participate in pagan activities such as Christmas or Easter, but kept the Almighty's Holy Days. I had never experienced as much peace in my life as I did after I began to enter into the Rest of the 4th commandment. paul was also circumcized under the law, it is a mark of the covenant. gentiles dont fall under that category YOU FOOLISH GALATIANS 10For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. 12And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them. 1O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you? 2This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 3Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh? 4Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain. 5He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 6Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness. 7Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. 8And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. 9So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham. 10For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. 11But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. 12And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them. 13Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: 14That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith. 15Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though it be but a man's covenant, yet if it be confirmed, no man disannulleth, or addeth thereto. 16Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ. 17And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect. 18For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise. 19Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator. 20Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one. 21Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law. 22But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe. 23But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. 24Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster. 26For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. 27For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. 29And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1466164 United States07/13/2011 12:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A DEBTOR TO DO THE WHOLE OF THE LAW FALLEN FROM GRACE Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing. 3For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. << Galatians 5 >> King James Version 1Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage. 2Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing. 3For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. 4Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace. 5For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith. 6For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love. |
