For those who doubt the apostle paul

OP why do you keep going on about Rome and or catholicism. Don't you think that we are capable of seeking Yah rather than man or institution?

Discernment doesn't come from these places or people. If you pay close attention, all of us trying to help you understand all have two things in common on this thread... 1. We call Him by his name. and 2. We are saying, listen to what Yahushua's named and confirmed apostles said rather than what Paul said.

Rather than seeing this, you hold your ground with but, but, but Paul... Paul seems to be your stronghold over all other books and prophets. Peter's books are a forgery which I am sure you will disagree with but nonetheless, you seem to be discounting every point we make over the single word 'beloved.'

By the way, not only am I not a Mr. or a catholic, I am a woman and not a 'chick.' Proverbs 31

Anyway, although you found it long, I'm glad you found some interest in my post.

Jerichofall,

Did this answer your question? Do you have any others?

peace,

You forgot to add a link:

Thread: Apostle Paul = First Anti-Christ





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Are you sure you are speaking for 'all of us'...




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oops, sorry, most of us here

Satan did not enter Judas until Jesus gave the command. He first told John who it would be, then (when he saw satan enter Judas) he told Judas to do what he must quickly.

Jesus was the only member present (at that time) which contained the anointing. He was The manifestation of The Holy Spirit?

But when Pentecost arrived The Holy Spirit was delivered to the apostles.

Paul received the Holy Spirit during his healing (Acts 9:17,18).

You do understand that the Holy Spirit is a gift and a calling which is given without repentance?

You do realize that a house divided against itself cannot stand?

You do realize that if the Son set a man free he is free indeed?

Your weave an deep and compelling theory. However, it is dots connected which are not scriptural based on life of a born again child.

I will be a berean. If you will.

peace,

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How do you know it's 'most'? Are you making stuff up as you go through life?

(And, it looks like your buddy/friend of Mr Ward left...)





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Correct, a house divided cannot stand but that is the point. There are those who follow Paul and those who follow YHVH. A house built on Pauline sand will fall. I for one want to see people relocate their houses founded upon Yah.

the day of judgement is going to be a sad day.....

I know because I read the posts and you can throw a party now cause the sun is setting and I'm off to enjoy my sabbath.

Do you have a specific, scriptural question as to why you feel Paul was not a follower of Jesus?

If so, please post it here and others can discuss.

TIA.

peace,

Very well. Enjoy your Sabbath. Or is it his Sabbath?

Either way, may you find your rest in The LORD.

peace,

The uber long post on Page 2 without the red, bold, green, etc. Written by me. - Happy Sabbath and I suppose it is my sabbath as well as it is Yah's.

You want?

So are you trying to save everyone?

Like universal healthcare?





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I'M SO HAPPY PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO WAKE UP. ANYONE THAT READS THE BIBLE FOR THEMSELF FINDS THIS TRUTH. WAKE UP PEOPLE AND SEE REALIZE THE BIGGEST DECEPTION EVER PULLED OFF BY SATAN.

it is all to apparent you dont comprehend. sorry. if it stands, it has to stand together, if you start dissecting the bible then where does it end???? which gospel account would be next?? it is by faith that we believe the bible is the word of God in the first place. if you start doubting it, then eventually you will cut all the gospels out and everyone will haft to be jewish. therefore, with faith, the scriptures must stand together.

if you did however remove paul, peter would go next or atleast you would haft to omit "beloved brother paul". as well as everything else referring to paul/saul.

if you persist in you endeavor, then for the sake of everyone else, it should be a solo journey, not you trying to convert.

cause you better be sure about what you preach!

i actually think paul was an apostle, cause God is always using that which confounds the "wise".

perhaps this is your stumbling block.........

I see no christian has actually addressed the hundreds of issues I brought up regarding Paul of Tarsus!

Nope, nothing but the usual religious nonsense and cute saying to make you all feel good and reinforce your false beliefs!

O well the truth is here for all to see if they actually read the thread and check everything I said!

Thanks, I will have a look and try to respond in a readable manner. I glanced at it briefly. It looked like quite a regurgitation. lol!

peace,


What do you think DSS? See anything familiar back there on pg 2? I recall a discussion with Mrs Smith some time back.

I recall no one participating was convinced of the others presentation. Perhaps there are silent readers which will benefit from such another regurgitation.

I am beginning to truly understand what being a fool for Christ sake means.

Blessings,

Easy big fella. These are long discussions. Takes time to develop an audience. Flesh out the real parties who are interested rather than just slinging mud.

Have some patience please.

peace,

then why doesnt it make you consider why "if" peter and paul did get put to death in rome, who killed them and why???

who had what to gain???

doesnt it seem a little bizarre that rome is the head of all christianity?

and what things has that church done since coming to power?

and why and what did they change in reguards to what the apostles taught?

the apostles were all dropping hints including paul.

warnings about what was coming. but you didnt see them.....

so insignifigant, i wonder if they knew they had to be evasive? that they knew romans would get ahold of the bible......

and good grief, revelations paints a portrait a blind man could see!

guess they didnt have the Spirit to understand that though.....

Say, come to think of it. I recall your uid. You are a mud slinger buddy!

lol!

It's easy to hide falsehoods is such a large pile of text.

Lets just look at one.... (from the top of the pile)


Rev 17 is quite clear that the whore is a city:


18And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.


Not a 'church'....

And certainly not sprouted from the root of a human.








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Ok this one's close to my heart and I feel all of what I have read so far is MASSIVELY missing the point. I'm not going to write a novel or quote mountains of scripture but please listen.

'It's hard to kick against he goads' - yeah it is hard when you're being beaten but looking at certain death if you proceed - think about this.

Peter would not discern Paul any better than he did Judas Iscariot - why? Was his spiritually lacking? OF COURSE NOT - but God doesn't need people to interfere with His plans, Yahushua had to be crucified and we know why. So there had already been a devil among the disciples/ apostles ok?

I definitely believe that the benjamite Saul-Paul was an infiltrator (he calls himself the Master Builder ok think it over) - BUT God used this to fufil his own prohecy and since it was freely given to me by the Most High (in a hotel room at a work conference while I was studying my bible) I'm going to give it to you for free also::

Amos 8:11 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD:

God has used Paul just like he used to Judas to realise the spiritual famine that would send us back in to that place which is SPIRITUALLY Egypt and Sodom. Now listen if you have ears to hear.

The seven sick cows that ate the seven healthy cows to bring famine as interpreted by Joseph, was a symbol of Paul's seven (sick) churches consuming the seven healthy churches of Revelation to create the (spiritual) famine that has put us in to (spiritual) bondage to Pharaoh once again (right where we are now!!). Awesome! HallelluYAH and praise the Lamb of God who stands before him as if slain to cover our sins!

Ok there is still one VERY important thing to know about Paul, and you might have to be a good Berean yourself here, but Paul is an archetype of BALAAM!!!!! He was sent to curse God's people and instead blessed them! God has turned the weapons of the enemy against himself once again!

So if I can summarise the situation -

Paul's many books in the new testament have replaced and devoured the knowledge that holy Christian/ Israelites should be seeking the holy spirit and wielding the authority of the power of the blood of Jesus/ Yahushua to destroy the kingdom of Satan. He tells each man to do what is good in his own eyes on the Sabbath, that the rules for fornication are lax, that women should keep quite in the churches and that faith and not works saves alone (but James says faith without works is dead!!!).

BUT! Paul has disclosed many spiritual deep truths and given us some important and powerful tools for use in spiritual warfare because his curse has been made a blessing! The enemies plans always fail against the power and glory of the Almighty Yahuwah.

There are twelve gates in the New Jerusalem for each Apostle and Matthias replaced Judas Iscariot - there is no gate for the wolf who ravages and divides the spoils.
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You are right about baalam. everyone should read about baalam and realize why yeshua mentions him. He was giving a big hint about Paul. If you have ears to hear and eyes to see. There are many warnings about Paul if you are filled with the Holy Spirit and ask to be shown truth.

Lets start here neighbor. Luke was the author of Acts. Your problem is with Luke. Or you can just throw Luke away. Up to you. Let me know if I can use Acts to support any further answers though. k?

TIA.

peace,

He's a she.




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Paul is Baalam.

Oops.. Sorry bout that.

How bout "Easy little lady" lol!

Someone needs to start a thread to have a discussion on just what Baalam was/is.

I think it would be revealing to many.

How bout it? You up for it. If so, post a link to it here and we can have a great Sabbath day discussion.

peace,

Welcome to HELL, you two!

Can hardly wait until you get to argue this anti-Biblical occultic claptrap during YOUR JUDGEMENT BEFORE THE LORD!

Man, how stupid can you get?