TRUE COMMUNISM is for cowards and murderers

You are insane, and/or not paying attention.

Yeah, it wasn't murder, it was "forcible termination of the living".

The only people that believe that "it's never been tried" crap are sitting in college sociology class rooms, either listening or teaching.

Just so everyone knows, I've deleted 3 pages of "neener neener" off-topic personal sniping.

No new bans, but guys, please, keep to the subject matter of the thread, this is important.

Thanks.

did you mean "cowtards and murdertards"?

Being called an imperialistic pig by a running dog lackey for serial killers is a compliment.

[link to waznmentobe.com]

Cite for your bullshit numbers?

Or what, you'll hurl more provably false insults?

What's clear is that you have a soft spot in your little black heart for the murderous political cult of Communism, and you attempt to redefine it so that it isn't held responsible for its crimes.

^ Sure, why not ^

To be honest after the USA did 911, I'm coming to realise how beastial capitalism is, and having more affilliation for communism.

Imperialism speech 1965, translated

Very nice post hoc ergo propter hoc error you've made there.

How do you equate capitalism with imperialism?

Since Charles Manson had brown eyes, are all people with brown eyes serial killers?

Interesting bit of dialog there. Seemingly Comedian has agreed that Jefferson was not present during the constitutional convention... (???)

New to me and warrants further investigation.

Someone who was there - growing up as a young boy - was Frederick Bastiat.

If Bastiat on THE LAW and THE GOVERNMENT were taught in high school civics classes, the drive toward socialism would be seriously hindered or stopped entirely.

Those are short and easily discovered all over the net. Bastait ECONOMIC HARMONIES is a full size book found in two or more websites. Also recommended.

Levi Philos

Yup, it's true, Jefferson was minister to France at the time.

And your assertions re:Bastiat are right on the money.

Some hunter-gatherer cultures, like the pygmies, lived in an egalitarian society, which could ALMOST be equated with communism.

But not really: communism is an industrial society in which the State owns the means of production, which is just a scam meaning oligarchs own the means of production: just look at the breakup of the Soviet Union: generals and members of the politburo sold everything off to hedge funds and other minions of Wall Street: meaning they owned it all along.

Besides, who wants to live in a mud hut?

Communism is a scam.

The American System if far from perfect, but it's better than sliced bread!

Towards the end of the cold war, if you wanted to find a capitalist, you needed look no further than any slum in Moscow. Very few commies left in Russia by the time it ended.

Who wants to work in China?(and even they are encouraging some entrepreneurship-they have a merchant class)

The reason? Communism DOESN'T WORK! I've lived in some hippie communes on the Left Coast. Ruled by consensus. It was relaxing, but very few decisions got made, not much work got done(only enough to keep it a slum) and I had to leave before all my motivation, and savings were zapped. And the truth was, decisions were being made, without my consent, by the people who OWNED the LAND.

Communism is for schmucks.

Communism is for idiots that have no idea how to do anything, and need a big brother to hold their hand, give them food, shelter, and everything else because the people who live for communism aren't good for anything, but dying, working like slaves, and putting up with the shit spewed from the elite. No thank you, I want no part of it, in it, or even see it.

This is what the welfare people want, even though, they will have to go work the fields when it comes lol, that's how dumb they are.

Just added a post to the TRUE COMMUNISM]/b] thread.

[poster was presenting the American native culture as a shining example of true communism]



Thread: TRUE COMMUNISM (Page 7)

Bastiat; THE LAW; this section:
[link to bastiat.org]

Check out the two sections:
Property and Plunder

and

Victims of Lawful Plunder

The whole document:
[link to bastiat.org]

and

[link to mises.org]

For a fine example of his political humor read "The petition of the candlestickmakers..."
[link to bastiat.org]

I read the entirety of THE LAW as a rebuke of socialism.

And Godless, helpless, rudderless, cannonfodder drones.

I lived in two hippie communes: One was my weekend Retreat in Olympia WA when I was working in Seattle.

The other was in Mendicino County, CA, which I lived at full time for about eight months before I HAD TO LEAVE or be STUCK THERE.

The one in Washington State was by far much cooler. It was owned by a couple of brothers who were former lumberjacks, and the mission statement for it was "Bringing third world living to the First World."

It started out with them simply allowing some poor friend to move onto the land and build some shacks, but it evolved into an experiment or test bed for "low impact" housing and renewable energy. It wasn't really a commune. I rented a 1942 baseball team tour bus that had a strawberry patch on the roof of it. Paid $100/month for "rent" but was always allowed to work it off fixing machinery. They had their own home-made well drilling rig, and a vw rabbit engine diesel generator, and a pretty large organic garden by the time I left. I gave up my "lease" to a college student who needed full time housing.

The one in CA had originally been a commie type commune. The founders had sold off part of the land to themselves(the higher ground) and rented their old shacks out to poor hippies. They had had enough of "communism" long before I arrived, and were now the politburo. Wouldn't allow the newbies to really do anything to develop the place. All they did was talk about it.

I'd love to go back and visit the one in WA. It was really cool. But it wasn't communism.

It is very important to point out that free-will collectivism is as much like Communism as giving to charity is like income taxation.

When the individual is not free to choose differently or leave the situation, it is not cooperation. It is coersion.

State-mandated "cooperation" is Communism. Individuals who choose to live communally is collectivism.

I agree with that last statement.

There was nothing wrong with these experiments in collectivism, and I recommend anyone who wants to try it, to try it.

There are lots of places like the ones I described out West,
and you may find one that suits your needs. Some of them are pretty swank from what I've heard.

But they weren't for me, and I'm glad I left when I did.

Even the cool one in Olympia. There was no garage facility for me to work the way I like to work, and I didn't want to build one on someone else's property.

Didn't like the idea I could fall out of favor and lose everything I worked for. But I have no sour grapes about it. Nobody asked me to, and nobody took advantage of me. It was a neat thing until it was time to move on: both places.

Unfortunately, life outside those places is at least as restrictive. Back in the day, you could get a piece of land, and build up a car repair and salvage operation from scratch, starting with a little money and some tools, skills, knowledge, and hard work.

Those days are long gone. It'd take a million dollars minimum now.

This is the argument stupid and naive people trot out. Communism is as communism does. It is not an ideology. It is organized crime.

Is capitalism U.S now is not imperialism ?

Russian peasants like you are so fucking stupid. Fuck you, Fuck Russia. You ignorant fuck.

the transition to personal insults is very revealing!

It reveals the fact that I fucking hate Russians. Fuck off, peasant.

bravo!

I hope this ending of this thread?

We just have to wait until your hatred eats you up inside!

Have a laugh while you wait.

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In capitalism you take from the poor and give to the rich. (bailouts, corporate welfare, etc.) In communism you take from the rich and give to the poor.