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not until around mid-tribulation

 
Sword0fGideon
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not until around mid-tribulation
Matthew chapter 24,

And Jesus answered and said unto them, take heed that no man decieve you. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall decieve many. And ye shall hear of wars and rumors of wars; see that ye be not troubled; for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom; and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in diverse places. All these are the beginning of sorrows. Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you; and ye shall be hated for my names sake. and then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. and many false prophets shall rise and decieve many. and because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.but he that endureth untill the end, the same shall be saved. and this gospel shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

these are the seals as they are being opened. the birthing pangs lead up to this happening. travail is when we are in the tribulation, the white horse, the 7 year treaty marks its beginning. until this happens we are only witnessing pangs, a sign/taste of that which is to come. travail, is alot worse, definetly not a pang.

you must further understand that there is a Father and a Son and a Holy Spirit, the Spirit is within both the Father and Son and the very elect. the Spirit is the substance of the body of Christ, for they are within us, by way of Holy Spirit. blaspheme the Holy Spirit and your cut off from the other members. each member is distinct, we all have our differences in personality, everyone is different and yet distinct. as it is with the Father and Son. the Son does the Fathers will and has the Fathers Holy Spirit. but all are of one accord.

but the tribulation falls into two different pieces, the Son opens the seals, but after the Temple is defiled, the Father, God of the old testament, becomes involved (first trumpet). at the 6th seal, the quake of the Lamb, the darkened sun and bloodied moon, but in heaven is seen a great multitude, from out of the tribulation. this is mid-tribulation, the witnesses are dead, many have been killed/beheaded for the testimony which they hold

the book is finished being opened with the last and final seal. and that unleashes the trumpets. theres no more seals to be opened, the Lambs job is done concerning the book, now he must go save his flock.

at the beginning of the 7 year period, israel was given its temple and sacrifices were restored, the temple is the Fathers. old testament. it is from this temple that the beast declares himself god in the holy of holies. this is what kindles the Fathers wrath.

the two witnesses are around for 3 1/2 years, they are killed and lie in the streets dead for 3 1/2 days. remember, whenever theres a temple, there are prophets. after they are taken back up, the temple is defiled, theres no reason for a prophet now.

when the Lord appears, its in the air. this is important. because when he sets foot upon the earth, its the beginning of the millenial reign. and these are two distinctly different times when he appears. we are called up to meet him in the air, first the dead, and then the living. as well as the two witnesses. for they will be partying and exchanging gifts marrying and giving in marriage celebrating the deaths of the tro witnesses and most likely those beheaded as well, but sudden destruction comes upon them.

darkening of the sun is a sign of judgement.

a remnant is still here though, the 144,000. God always has a remnant

and since the temple is defiled, and the blinding of israel is removed, and they now realize they was fooled and that Jesus is the Lord returned they continue with the gospel.

when the judgements are carried out, the Lord returns with all his saints, we are the saints, the angels belong the the Father, although they will be doing stuff as well. rev. 3:5. he sets foot upon the ground, and millenial reign begins.

blessed are they who partake of the first ressurection.
Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
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Re: not until around mid-tribulation
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Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
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Re: not until around mid-tribulation
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Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
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Re: not until around mid-tribulation
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Re: not until around mid-tribulation
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I will look at this later...peace

Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 07/04/2011 02:42 PM
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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oh, around...

great

thanks so much





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