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Are GLP christians done? They all believe the same shit!! They have lost any and all validity!!

 
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Looks like Canada has been infected by the Great Whore also. I kind of had that feeling already though
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Nah, I'd say we have cleaner air to breath, unpolluted water (no chlorine or fluoride) to numb our minds. Many of us have a tendency to think for ourselves instead of being clueless followers/sheeple.
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What part of Canada do you live in ???

Where I live - the water is polluted - it does have chlorine and fluoride... As far as the thinking part - we have our fair share minions...
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I'm near the MB/SK border. Rural area with natural springs. I hear Calgary voted to eliminate fluoride from their water supply. That's great!! Yes, I know we have more than our fair share of minions. Where do you call home?
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London, Ontario... 612 - is that you??
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i for one hope it's not "never" but i respect your right to make your choice. people giving you the "message" as pur33nergy7 did, are enemies of the Gospel or very immature Christians that are full of self. it doesn't mean they won't tell you something you don't believe, don't want to believe or don't want to hear, but it will be a message from a humble, non-judgmental and out of caring, place.

Christians are no better than anyone else and as i have said, they will speak the truth in love. they will not sugar coat the truth, but they will show the truth of God's love through their actions and their words. Scripture is very true about "pride comes before the fall" and i believe that Scripture very much supports that those that claim Christ and live in the sin of pride, will experience a very, very big fall.

people like this are very much a stumbling block to other for the message of the Gospel and Scripture is very, very clear.....they will answer for it.

i will offer an apology to you for all that have come to you in the negative way, even though it's not my place to apologize. i just ask one thing of you...please try and remember, that is not the true Gospel of Christ and not even close to what Christ taught.
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Hey - no need to apologize - this is the internet, and this is GLP... You know the saying: If you cannot stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen...

Just a comment on your religious aspect, if you do not mind...

I know much more about what is going on here and the nature of reality, then you can imagine...The teachings or the gospel of christ as you put it, is not reality...They are lightsider tainted, designed to keep you in a warm fuzzy mode, disarmed and waiting for a savior. The true purpose is to keep you in this state of mind for two reasons...

One physical and one non physical:

The teachings of fallen and sin are to disarm you, away from your true power, so the net can be slowly tightened, to the point where nothing can be done to unravel it. It is at this point now...The true meaning of the cross, with body on it, is financial...The second coming is another horizontal arm added to the cross - look closely, you will see this showing up on some of your financial transactions...

The non physical is who you truly are - a spirit stream connected to your soul...This stream envelops, and penetrates your body, manifesting as the aura that some people can see... When you shed the physical, the spirit stream remains - it cannot be destroyed - it's only limitations are self-imposed, bound by your own beliefs...

If your belief is of a religious nature - then when you shed your physical, you will gravitate to find the like minded...The astral planes around this planet hold many of these belief systems, and they have been observed by out of body travelers...The Munroe Institute has many people who could tell you what they have seen...

They feel they have found heaven and are content - pre-conditioned to expect what they have found...Not necessarily a bad thing, but for people like myself and others, it is very limiting, we know it is a con, which may or may not have severe implications...I for one could never be bound by this - I know far to much...

The broad stroke of a ONE god, and a ONE and only son is completely false - You will KNOW that, when the time is right for you...
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oh we disagree on so many points lol

i believe in mind, body and spirit, i do believe as you that the spirit, unlike the body, escapes death. my beliefs come from many things that have been shown to me.

what you don't realize is Christians are not waiting on a Savior. Christians believe the Savior has already come. we believe all people are on this earth a short time compared to eternity.

i can't prove to anyone that God/Christ is real anymore than a person can prove love is real to someone that has never experienced love.

you said:
we know it is a con, which may or may not have severe implications...

i can somewhat agree with this, but turned around...speaking of your belief i believe it is a con that will have very severe implications.

there is so much more to Christianity other than salvation and some of the things that i have experienced i wish every person would experience, but reality is that is not going to happen. it also distresses me at times and for whoever said earlier that people that follow Christianity have no worry or concern about ones that don't follow it, is completely wrong.

i've done quite a bit of indepth study about what you are speaking of, i am not one just to take what i was taught as truth without investigation of many other things. i don't read books about Scripture, i don't go on someone's interpretation of it, i study myself and the most important thing, i take Scripture as a whole. you can't base a theology on a few Scriptures.

i won't ever agree with what you are saying simply because it has been proven to me that my beliefs are what is right for me. i believe that God gave all men freewill to chose their path and we are all grown ups an we should all know by now that there are consequences to every choice we make. so we make those choices weighing consequences, even when we don't always realize we are weighing consequences.

no one can force anyone into a belief, it's not a belief then. i think everyone should search out the truth for themselves, never take the word of anyone at all because we are all responsible for our own actions and choices in everything. :)
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"i won't ever agree with what you are saying simply because it has been proven to me that my beliefs are what is right
for me"

That statement in a nutshell is what this is all about!!!

You are where you need to be - it cannot be any other way...

Good discourse with you - take care...
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and good one with you also. i know all your convos with believers haven't been good and all mine with non-believers haven't been good.

i've known for a long time that all non-believers aren't the same way to all believers, i've experienced convos just like this with many non-believers over the years.

if one single person realizes that all believers aren't judgmental, do stand up for what they believe to be truth and do not look down on others, then it's a good day. :)
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I'm sorry for my rant, but I enjoy being salt. You speak the truth and deserve to be rewarded for that. I'm confident that you will be. I have run out of patience with the lies and deception we are fed these days and the illusion that rights come from government. The same fuckers trying to lead us into a ditch. I've had enough. I don't claim to be perfect, and you should make that quality apparent as well. These false prophets are one thing, but the ignorant masses are a completely different story. I pray for rain and tidal waves. Earthquakes that will sink this hellhole to the bottom of the abyss. The time is near, and the fools are running rampant. Anyone who claims to be anything less than a sinner is a joke. We all have our faults including you, so don't you dare cast a stone at me. I recite the truth and these fallen Babyl's make me sick. I don't know how to get through to them if there is even a possible way. I seriously doubt it. Don't be so concerned about my spec when you can't remove your own plank.
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i've never said i was perfect, i've said over and over that Christians aren't any different than anyone else. are you supposed to be praying for death and destruction? are you supposed to be using the Gospel and Scripture as a weapon? that is not your job to do. we are told who will do the judging and how it will be done. we are told who will open the seals. we are not in a position to judge those outside the Body of Christ, in fact, we are told NOT to do that. we are however told to rebuke and correct those that claim to be in the Body of Christ.

i understand the frustrations of many, many things. my suggestion to you is take your correction, get back to what is your job according to God and repent for being a stumbling block for the Gospel, even if it was only for one single person. go back and read the Gospels, how did Jesus treat the same situations? yes, there is righteous anger, that is not what you have exhibited.

the best example of what Scripture tells you to do in the position you are in right now, is Jesus before he was crucified.

He did not ever beg for destruction, He did go and spend time with God in prayer and He also asked God to forgive them because they didn't know what they were doing.

i suggest you take the example of Christ.
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I will not spend too much time on your first paragraph because I have no reason to argue the majority of the content, however, you did say that we should not judge. Are you not judging my words?

What is "my job" according to God? Do you not stumble? Even Jesus had fits of rage by flipping over tables in the temple where people were gambling and forsaking the word of God because of His anger and what He witnessed.

I have had enough. It brings tears to my eyes to see death and destruction. I pray it will end. I also have eyes to see and ears to hear. I don't see an end to the slow death we are forced to witness on a daily basis. Flush it down please. The pain will be less than what we experience today. At least those of us who know this place is fallen and in the wrong hands. Flush it all away
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your post above shows you didn't read and comprehend what i said.

what did i say about not being perfect? what did i say about judging? what did i say about rebuke and correction? what did i say about righteous anger? and Jesus did not show that anger to anyone but to the money changers in the Temple. the ones that turned the Temple into a den of thieves. who are those people today? those that use churches and the Name of God to do work against God, the Campings, the Jim Bakkers, etc. these people are not ones that have not infiltrated the Body of Christ.

the earth has not fallen into the wrong hands, it was turned over by God.

what is your job? the same as every Christian, to spread and further the Gospel, not to hamper it. what person in their right mind wants to be part of something where they are degraded and trashed because they don't want to be a part of it? that is not at all what Christ did or taught. even Paul, who persecuted and killed Christians before he came to Christ was not treated that way.

you are acting like this world is out of control, but it is not. you should not be surprised at what all is happening. does Scripture not tell us exactly what will happen? does Scripture not tell us what to expect? do we not know that all things that Scripture tells us about must come to pass?

you pray it will end? is that not selfish? you don't like what you are seeing so you will pray the end will come soon knowing that many have not come to Christ?

is that anything close to what Scripture teaches????
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Ok, before Moses wrote the law he warned people that it was unholy to eat shellfish and certain types of meat. When our Lord came He said to ignore those laws and that the times ahead were more of a concern.

I have one question for you. Do you believe abortion is ok? In any situation including rape.
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There is no true and right re-legion...

This is an infinite universe, or that could be multi-verse, with an infinite amount of galaxy's, an infinite amount of planets, an infinite amount of species, and an infinite amount of viewpoints...

There is NO one path, one way...You have to find what is right for you, and wrong for that matter...

There is your challenge - ignore everyone and do what you feel is right for you!!!
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Looks like Canada has been infected by the Great Whore also. I kind of had that feeling already though
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Nah, I'd say we have cleaner air to breath, unpolluted water (no chlorine or fluoride) to numb our minds. Many of us have a tendency to think for ourselves instead of being clueless followers/sheeple.
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you live on the other side of the Ambassador from me. Are you serious? Are you sure we do not drink the same fluoride and breathe the same chemtrails? Are you sure that your country is not part of this racist joke of a war on terror? I'll make some popcorn while you craft something worth processing
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I KNOW my water is fluoride free. I live in a rural area complete with natural springs. Friday was a bright sunny day with not a cloud in the sky = NO CHEMTRAILS!! Radiation is another story! Yes, Canada is playing the same 'war on terror' game. BTW, my response to pur33nergy7 was meant as pure and simple satire.
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Nah, I'd say we have cleaner air to breath, unpolluted water (no chlorine or fluoride) to numb our minds. Many of us have a tendency to think for ourselves instead of being clueless followers/sheeple.
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What part of Canada do you live in ???

Where I live - the water is polluted - it does have chlorine and fluoride... As far as the thinking part - we have our fair share minions...
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I'm near the MB/SK border. Rural area with natural springs. I hear Calgary voted to eliminate fluoride from their water supply. That's great!! Yes, I know we have more than our fair share of minions. Where do you call home?
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London, Ontario... 612 - is that you??
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Yes it is - William?
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i've never said i was perfect, i've said over and over that Christians aren't any different than anyone else. are you supposed to be praying for death and destruction? are you supposed to be using the Gospel and Scripture as a weapon? that is not your job to do. we are told who will do the judging and how it will be done. we are told who will open the seals. we are not in a position to judge those outside the Body of Christ, in fact, we are told NOT to do that. we are however told to rebuke and correct those that claim to be in the Body of Christ.

i understand the frustrations of many, many things. my suggestion to you is take your correction, get back to what is your job according to God and repent for being a stumbling block for the Gospel, even if it was only for one single person. go back and read the Gospels, how did Jesus treat the same situations? yes, there is righteous anger, that is not what you have exhibited.

the best example of what Scripture tells you to do in the position you are in right now, is Jesus before he was crucified.

He did not ever beg for destruction, He did go and spend time with God in prayer and He also asked God to forgive them because they didn't know what they were doing.

i suggest you take the example of Christ.
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I will not spend too much time on your first paragraph because I have no reason to argue the majority of the content, however, you did say that we should not judge. Are you not judging my words?

What is "my job" according to God? Do you not stumble? Even Jesus had fits of rage by flipping over tables in the temple where people were gambling and forsaking the word of God because of His anger and what He witnessed.

I have had enough. It brings tears to my eyes to see death and destruction. I pray it will end. I also have eyes to see and ears to hear. I don't see an end to the slow death we are forced to witness on a daily basis. Flush it down please. The pain will be less than what we experience today. At least those of us who know this place is fallen and in the wrong hands. Flush it all away
 Quoting: pur33nergy7


your post above shows you didn't read and comprehend what i said.

what did i say about not being perfect? what did i say about judging? what did i say about rebuke and correction? what did i say about righteous anger? and Jesus did not show that anger to anyone but to the money changers in the Temple. the ones that turned the Temple into a den of thieves. who are those people today? those that use churches and the Name of God to do work against God, the Campings, the Jim Bakkers, etc. these people are not ones that have not infiltrated the Body of Christ.

the earth has not fallen into the wrong hands, it was turned over by God.

what is your job? the same as every Christian, to spread and further the Gospel, not to hamper it. what person in their right mind wants to be part of something where they are degraded and trashed because they don't want to be a part of it? that is not at all what Christ did or taught. even Paul, who persecuted and killed Christians before he came to Christ was not treated that way.

you are acting like this world is out of control, but it is not. you should not be surprised at what all is happening. does Scripture not tell us exactly what will happen? does Scripture not tell us what to expect? do we not know that all things that Scripture tells us about must come to pass?

you pray it will end? is that not selfish? you don't like what you are seeing so you will pray the end will come soon knowing that many have not come to Christ?

is that anything close to what Scripture teaches????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1394866


Ok, before Moses wrote the law he warned people that it was unholy to eat shellfish and certain types of meat. When our Lord came He said to ignore those laws and that the times ahead were more of a concern.

I have one question for you. Do you believe abortion is ok? In any situation including rape.
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well no, He did not say ignore those laws and the time ahead were more of a concern.

what He actually said was, Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill.

the Law was given to Israel for one reason only, to show them they could never be "good enough" to earn salvation or God's favor. only the High Priest was allowed in the Holy of Holies and only AFTER there was a sacrifice for his sin. if he went into the Holy of Holies and had no blood sacrifice had been done for his sin, he dropped dead. read Lev, it tells about how a rope was tied around the priest, what had to be done to cover his sin, the bells on his robe. when the bells stopped ring, that meant he was dead and had to be dragged out.

also, the Law was NEVER given to the Gentiles, only to Israel. Christ was sent to save ISRAEL and when they rejected Him, the Gospel then went to the Gentiles and they were grafted in, remember? God also told them if they were guilty of breaking one Law, they were guilty of breaking all Laws. no man could live up to those Laws, it was impossible.

sacrifices were common place for Israel, their sin had to be covered and God told them without the shedding of blood, there was no forgiveness of sin. Christ was the final sacrifice and he was the fulfillment of the Law, Christ was the "new Law" plain and simple.

Christ came to fulfill that Law that God gave to Israel

no, personally i do not believe in abortion for any reason. i feel God is in control and i feel that if i were to get pregnant by rape, it's for a reason. scientifically, very few pregnancies occur with rape and i trust that God is in charge and control. being a Christian does not mean we are immune to the things of this world, bad things happen to Christians just like everyone else. it is the cost of sin in the world.
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ohno

Are GLP christians done?

They all believe the same shit!!

They have lost any and all validity!!

There will always be, as in the past, someone of this religion settings dates for a second coming, the rapture, gods judgment!!

Its over, get used to it!!







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If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!
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HT you are SUCH a liar.

The premise that christians have lost ANY and ALL validity is FALSE and a LIE FROM SATAN.


To LOSE ANY and ALL validity REQUIRES they actually HAD some to START with..

SO YOU LIE..you servant of the DEVIL!!!


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Looks like Canada has been infected by the Great Whore also. I kind of had that feeling already though
 Quoting: pur33nergy7


Nah, I'd say we have cleaner air to breath, unpolluted water (no chlorine or fluoride) to numb our minds. Many of us have a tendency to think for ourselves instead of being clueless followers/sheeple.
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you live on the other side of the Ambassador from me. Are you serious? Are you sure we do not drink the same fluoride and breathe the same chemtrails? Are you sure that your country is not part of this racist joke of a war on terror? I'll make some popcorn while you craft something worth processing
 Quoting: pur33nergy7


I KNOW my water is fluoride free. I live in a rural area complete with natural springs. Friday was a bright sunny day with not a cloud in the sky = NO CHEMTRAILS!! Radiation is another story! Yes, Canada is playing the same 'war on terror' game. BTW, my response to pur33nergy7 was meant as pure and simple satire.
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Ok well I can't understand why you wouldn't welcome any change my friend. I want to see it, flush it down, suck it down, flush it downnnnn. Btw, since you have your precious well water, have you considered trying to light it on fire lately? I have a ton of links if you're interested

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ohno

Are GLP christians done?

They all believe the same shit!!

They have lost any and all validity!!

There will always be, as in the past, someone of this religion settings dates for a second coming, the rapture, gods judgment!!

Its over, get used to it!!







___________

If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!
 Quoting: HardTruth


HT you are SUCH a liar.

The premise that christians have lost ANY and ALL validity is FALSE and a LIE FROM SATAN.


To LOSE ANY and ALL validity REQUIRES they actually HAD some to START with..

SO YOU LIE..you servant of the DEVIL!!!


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I will not spend too much time on your first paragraph because I have no reason to argue the majority of the content, however, you did say that we should not judge. Are you not judging my words?

What is "my job" according to God? Do you not stumble? Even Jesus had fits of rage by flipping over tables in the temple where people were gambling and forsaking the word of God because of His anger and what He witnessed.

I have had enough. It brings tears to my eyes to see death and destruction. I pray it will end. I also have eyes to see and ears to hear. I don't see an end to the slow death we are forced to witness on a daily basis. Flush it down please. The pain will be less than what we experience today. At least those of us who know this place is fallen and in the wrong hands. Flush it all away
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your post above shows you didn't read and comprehend what i said.

what did i say about not being perfect? what did i say about judging? what did i say about rebuke and correction? what did i say about righteous anger? and Jesus did not show that anger to anyone but to the money changers in the Temple. the ones that turned the Temple into a den of thieves. who are those people today? those that use churches and the Name of God to do work against God, the Campings, the Jim Bakkers, etc. these people are not ones that have not infiltrated the Body of Christ.

the earth has not fallen into the wrong hands, it was turned over by God.

what is your job? the same as every Christian, to spread and further the Gospel, not to hamper it. what person in their right mind wants to be part of something where they are degraded and trashed because they don't want to be a part of it? that is not at all what Christ did or taught. even Paul, who persecuted and killed Christians before he came to Christ was not treated that way.

you are acting like this world is out of control, but it is not. you should not be surprised at what all is happening. does Scripture not tell us exactly what will happen? does Scripture not tell us what to expect? do we not know that all things that Scripture tells us about must come to pass?

you pray it will end? is that not selfish? you don't like what you are seeing so you will pray the end will come soon knowing that many have not come to Christ?

is that anything close to what Scripture teaches????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1394866


Ok, before Moses wrote the law he warned people that it was unholy to eat shellfish and certain types of meat. When our Lord came He said to ignore those laws and that the times ahead were more of a concern.

I have one question for you. Do you believe abortion is ok? In any situation including rape.
 Quoting: pur33nergy7


well no, He did not say ignore those laws and the time ahead were more of a concern.

what He actually said was, Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill.

the Law was given to Israel for one reason only, to show them they could never be "good enough" to earn salvation or God's favor. only the High Priest was allowed in the Holy of Holies and only AFTER there was a sacrifice for his sin. if he went into the Holy of Holies and had no blood sacrifice had been done for his sin, he dropped dead. read Lev, it tells about how a rope was tied around the priest, what had to be done to cover his sin, the bells on his robe. when the bells stopped ring, that meant he was dead and had to be dragged out.

also, the Law was NEVER given to the Gentiles, only to Israel. Christ was sent to save ISRAEL and when they rejected Him, the Gospel then went to the Gentiles and they were grafted in, remember? God also told them if they were guilty of breaking one Law, they were guilty of breaking all Laws. no man could live up to those Laws, it was impossible.

sacrifices were common place for Israel, their sin had to be covered and God told them without the shedding of blood, there was no forgiveness of sin. Christ was the final sacrifice and he was the fulfillment of the Law, Christ was the "new Law" plain and simple.
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Do you really think, that a need for blood sacrifices before one can be forgiven, is truly the work of a loving creator?

I think you need to look deeper into what the definition of love is, because to me......that ain't it.

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I have one question for you. Do you believe abortion is ok? In any situation including rape.
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Since this is an open forum, I'll take the liberty of stating my position on this question. 18 years ago I would have responded with an empathic "NO!!" Today, my position is quite different. I have learned the spirit/soul does NOT enter the physical body till just before the fetus is born. When you stop to think about it, why would a spirit/soul even want to reside in a fetus for 9 long months? Therefore, an abortion in the first few months only destroys the EMPTY vessel and NOT something divine. And besides, even IF the vessel already holds a spirit/soul, it can NEVER be destroyed!! The spirit/soul is both immortal and eternal.
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I will not spend too much time on your first paragraph because I have no reason to argue the majority of the content, however, you did say that we should not judge. Are you not judging my words?

What is "my job" according to God? Do you not stumble? Even Jesus had fits of rage by flipping over tables in the temple where people were gambling and forsaking the word of God because of His anger and what He witnessed.

I have had enough. It brings tears to my eyes to see death and destruction. I pray it will end. I also have eyes to see and ears to hear. I don't see an end to the slow death we are forced to witness on a daily basis. Flush it down please. The pain will be less than what we experience today. At least those of us who know this place is fallen and in the wrong hands. Flush it all away
 Quoting: pur33nergy7


your post above shows you didn't read and comprehend what i said.

what did i say about not being perfect? what did i say about judging? what did i say about rebuke and correction? what did i say about righteous anger? and Jesus did not show that anger to anyone but to the money changers in the Temple. the ones that turned the Temple into a den of thieves. who are those people today? those that use churches and the Name of God to do work against God, the Campings, the Jim Bakkers, etc. these people are not ones that have not infiltrated the Body of Christ.

the earth has not fallen into the wrong hands, it was turned over by God.

what is your job? the same as every Christian, to spread and further the Gospel, not to hamper it. what person in their right mind wants to be part of something where they are degraded and trashed because they don't want to be a part of it? that is not at all what Christ did or taught. even Paul, who persecuted and killed Christians before he came to Christ was not treated that way.

you are acting like this world is out of control, but it is not. you should not be surprised at what all is happening. does Scripture not tell us exactly what will happen? does Scripture not tell us what to expect? do we not know that all things that Scripture tells us about must come to pass?

you pray it will end? is that not selfish? you don't like what you are seeing so you will pray the end will come soon knowing that many have not come to Christ?

is that anything close to what Scripture teaches????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1394866


Ok, before Moses wrote the law he warned people that it was unholy to eat shellfish and certain types of meat. When our Lord came He said to ignore those laws and that the times ahead were more of a concern.

I have one question for you. Do you believe abortion is ok? In any situation including rape.
 Quoting: pur33nergy7


well no, He did not say ignore those laws and the time ahead were more of a concern.

what He actually said was, Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill.

the Law was given to Israel for one reason only, to show them they could never be "good enough" to earn salvation or God's favor. only the High Priest was allowed in the Holy of Holies and only AFTER there was a sacrifice for his sin. if he went into the Holy of Holies and had no blood sacrifice had been done for his sin, he dropped dead. read Lev, it tells about how a rope was tied around the priest, what had to be done to cover his sin, the bells on his robe. when the bells stopped ring, that meant he was dead and had to be dragged out.

also, the Law was NEVER given to the Gentiles, only to Israel. Christ was sent to save ISRAEL and when they rejected Him, the Gospel then went to the Gentiles and they were grafted in, remember? God also told them if they were guilty of breaking one Law, they were guilty of breaking all Laws. no man could live up to those Laws, it was impossible.

sacrifices were common place for Israel, their sin had to be covered and God told them without the shedding of blood, there was no forgiveness of sin. Christ was the final sacrifice and he was the fulfillment of the Law, Christ was the "new Law" plain and simple.

Christ came to fulfill that Law that God gave to Israel

no, personally i do not believe in abortion for any reason. i feel God is in control and i feel that if i were to get pregnant by rape, it's for a reason. scientifically, very few pregnancies occur with rape and i trust that God is in charge and control. being a Christian does not mean we are immune to the things of this world, bad things happen to Christians just like everyone else. it is the cost of sin in the world.
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You said "what He actually said was, Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill."

That's funny because He also said "I did not come to bring peace, but to divide with a sword"

Sweetheart, your salt has much flavor, and I like that. Do you understand what it means to be salt upon the earth? My sword has not run out of salt just yet. I respect you because of your belief, however, I find myself stuck between an admitted sinner and a Blackwater crusader. I believe in peace and love. I also believe in the right to irritate people who are lost. Salt irritates an open wound
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Since this is an open forum, I'll take the liberty of stating my position on this question. 18 years ago I would have responded with an empathic "NO!!" Today, my position is quite different. I have learned the spirit/soul does NOT enter the physical body till just before the fetus is born. When you stop to think about it, why would a spirit/soul even want to reside in a fetus for 9 long months? Therefore, an abortion in the first few months only destroys the EMPTY vessel and NOT something divine. And besides, even IF the vessel already holds a spirit/soul, it can NEVER be destroyed!! The spirit/soul is both immortal and eternal.
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Haha. Thank's for giving me a reason to peg you with salt.
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I did the complete Harold Camping study

I agreed with it

The complete study is a fail !


I brought it to GLP and I stand before GLP now stating the FACT that the study is in error and May 21st turns out to be just another day !


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FWIW It takes courage to aknowledge one's mistakes.

Now we can agree the whole biz of bible based prophecy is better left alone?

Cheer up mate, things are going to change, but is it in our hands. God has better things to do than squating us.
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ICE spen SIX MONTHS being a RUDE ARROGANT CUNT to everyone over this SHIT.

And now everyone just SUCKS HIS COCK for him on one half hearted BULLSHIT statement.

Notice he had in NO WAY repented ONE IOTA for the way he TREATED people..JUST the fact that he was WRONG.

He is STILL AN ARROGANT RUDE FUCK and always WILL BE.

FUCK YOU ICE YA SATANIC HARD HEARTED CHILD MOLESTING FUCK!

OH yes..we know ALL about your little SECRET.

SHHH..dont tell anyone about your PAST eh..might getBASTY you illuminati FUCKER!

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your post above shows you didn't read and comprehend what i said.

what did i say about not being perfect? what did i say about judging? what did i say about rebuke and correction? what did i say about righteous anger? and Jesus did not show that anger to anyone but to the money changers in the Temple. the ones that turned the Temple into a den of thieves. who are those people today? those that use churches and the Name of God to do work against God, the Campings, the Jim Bakkers, etc. these people are not ones that have not infiltrated the Body of Christ.

the earth has not fallen into the wrong hands, it was turned over by God.

what is your job? the same as every Christian, to spread and further the Gospel, not to hamper it. what person in their right mind wants to be part of something where they are degraded and trashed because they don't want to be a part of it? that is not at all what Christ did or taught. even Paul, who persecuted and killed Christians before he came to Christ was not treated that way.

you are acting like this world is out of control, but it is not. you should not be surprised at what all is happening. does Scripture not tell us exactly what will happen? does Scripture not tell us what to expect? do we not know that all things that Scripture tells us about must come to pass?

you pray it will end? is that not selfish? you don't like what you are seeing so you will pray the end will come soon knowing that many have not come to Christ?

is that anything close to what Scripture teaches????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1394866


Ok, before Moses wrote the law he warned people that it was unholy to eat shellfish and certain types of meat. When our Lord came He said to ignore those laws and that the times ahead were more of a concern.

I have one question for you. Do you believe abortion is ok? In any situation including rape.
 Quoting: pur33nergy7


well no, He did not say ignore those laws and the time ahead were more of a concern.

what He actually said was, Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill.

the Law was given to Israel for one reason only, to show them they could never be "good enough" to earn salvation or God's favor. only the High Priest was allowed in the Holy of Holies and only AFTER there was a sacrifice for his sin. if he went into the Holy of Holies and had no blood sacrifice had been done for his sin, he dropped dead. read Lev, it tells about how a rope was tied around the priest, what had to be done to cover his sin, the bells on his robe. when the bells stopped ring, that meant he was dead and had to be dragged out.

also, the Law was NEVER given to the Gentiles, only to Israel. Christ was sent to save ISRAEL and when they rejected Him, the Gospel then went to the Gentiles and they were grafted in, remember? God also told them if they were guilty of breaking one Law, they were guilty of breaking all Laws. no man could live up to those Laws, it was impossible.

sacrifices were common place for Israel, their sin had to be covered and God told them without the shedding of blood, there was no forgiveness of sin. Christ was the final sacrifice and he was the fulfillment of the Law, Christ was the "new Law" plain and simple.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1394866


Do you really think, that a need for blood sacrifices before one can be forgiven, is truly the work of a loving creator?

I think you need to look deeper into what the definition of love is, because to me......that ain't it.
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i'm not going to debate Christianity with you, I don't do that. you can not take one thing and build something upon it or discredit something with it.

it's about Scripture as a whole, not snippets of Scripture. that's how these strange theologies come to pass, people basing an entire theology and a Scripture or two and ignoring the entire Bible, ignoring the customs of the times, ignoring who it was written to, ignoring the times, ignoring specific things that were happening in that specific region at the time. that's how people get these ideas of "women can't cut their hair, women can't wear pants and make up" etc.
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Nah, I'd say we have cleaner air to breath, unpolluted water (no chlorine or fluoride) to numb our minds. Many of us have a tendency to think for ourselves instead of being clueless followers/sheeple.
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you live on the other side of the Ambassador from me. Are you serious? Are you sure we do not drink the same fluoride and breathe the same chemtrails? Are you sure that your country is not part of this racist joke of a war on terror? I'll make some popcorn while you craft something worth processing
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I KNOW my water is fluoride free. I live in a rural area complete with natural springs. Friday was a bright sunny day with not a cloud in the sky = NO CHEMTRAILS!! Radiation is another story! Yes, Canada is playing the same 'war on terror' game. BTW, my response to pur33nergy7 was meant as pure and simple satire.
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Ok well I can't understand why you wouldn't welcome any change my friend. I want to see it, flush it down, suck it down, flush it downnnnn. Btw, since you have your precious well water, have you considered trying to light it on fire lately? I have a ton of links if you're interested

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: pur33nergy7


Welcome what change? Why do you resent my well water (actually I mentioned natural springs, not wells)? And if it burns, then maybe I'll use it to heat my house this winter (satire!!!!)
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FYI... most Christians - true Christians - do not believe the false prophets.
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Sooo, ICE was a false prophet?

___________

If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!
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The Gubberment pays these people (like ICE) to pull shit like this just to discredit Christianity. Wake up.
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I have one question for you. Do you believe abortion is ok? In any situation including rape.
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Since this is an open forum, I'll take the liberty of stating my position on this question. 18 years ago I would have responded with an empathic "NO!!" Today, my position is quite different. I have learned the spirit/soul does NOT enter the physical body till just before the fetus is born. When you stop to think about it, why would a spirit/soul even want to reside in a fetus for 9 long months? Therefore, an abortion in the first few months only destroys the EMPTY vessel and NOT something divine. And besides, even IF the vessel already holds a spirit/soul, it can NEVER be destroyed!! The spirit/soul is both immortal and eternal.
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Haha. Thank's for giving me a reason to peg you with salt.
bushpunch
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Why do you have a problem with my reply? Is it not true the spirit/soul is immortal and eternal? If so, what's your problem?
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FYI... most Christians - true Christians - do not believe the false prophets.
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Sooo, ICE was a false prophet?

___________

If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!
 Quoting: HardTruth


The Gubberment pays these people (like ICE) to pull shit like this just to discredit Christianity. Wake up.
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Or to divert our attention from something far more urgent!!
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you live on the other side of the Ambassador from me. Are you serious? Are you sure we do not drink the same fluoride and breathe the same chemtrails? Are you sure that your country is not part of this racist joke of a war on terror? I'll make some popcorn while you craft something worth processing
 Quoting: pur33nergy7


I KNOW my water is fluoride free. I live in a rural area complete with natural springs. Friday was a bright sunny day with not a cloud in the sky = NO CHEMTRAILS!! Radiation is another story! Yes, Canada is playing the same 'war on terror' game. BTW, my response to pur33nergy7 was meant as pure and simple satire.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1375359


Ok well I can't understand why you wouldn't welcome any change my friend. I want to see it, flush it down, suck it down, flush it downnnnn. Btw, since you have your precious well water, have you considered trying to light it on fire lately? I have a ton of links if you're interested

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: pur33nergy7


Welcome what change? Why do you resent my well water (actually I mentioned natural springs, not wells)? And if it burns, then maybe I'll use it to heat my house this winter (satire!!!!)
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You said "what He actually said was, Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill."

That's funny because He also said "I did not come to bring peace, but to divide with a sword"

Sweetheart, your salt has much flavor, and I like that. Do you understand what it means to be salt upon the earth? My sword has not run out of salt just yet. I respect you because of your belief, however, I find myself stuck between an admitted sinner and a Blackwater crusader. I believe in peace and love. I also believe in the right to irritate people who are lost. Salt irritates an open wound
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You said "what He actually said was, Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill."

That's funny because He also said "I did not come to bring peace, but to divide with a sword"

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I could teach you a great deal about what is actually being said in the above statements, and what it means...

It is not spiritual - It IS financial - It is redemption, financial redemption...

I know - here comes the salt - your loss....
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your post above shows you didn't read and comprehend what i said.

what did i say about not being perfect? what did i say about judging? what did i say about rebuke and correction? what did i say about righteous anger? and Jesus did not show that anger to anyone but to the money changers in the Temple. the ones that turned the Temple into a den of thieves. who are those people today? those that use churches and the Name of God to do work against God, the Campings, the Jim Bakkers, etc. these people are not ones that have not infiltrated the Body of Christ.

the earth has not fallen into the wrong hands, it was turned over by God.

what is your job? the same as every Christian, to spread and further the Gospel, not to hamper it. what person in their right mind wants to be part of something where they are degraded and trashed because they don't want to be a part of it? that is not at all what Christ did or taught. even Paul, who persecuted and killed Christians before he came to Christ was not treated that way.

you are acting like this world is out of control, but it is not. you should not be surprised at what all is happening. does Scripture not tell us exactly what will happen? does Scripture not tell us what to expect? do we not know that all things that Scripture tells us about must come to pass?

you pray it will end? is that not selfish? you don't like what you are seeing so you will pray the end will come soon knowing that many have not come to Christ?

is that anything close to what Scripture teaches????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1394866


Ok, before Moses wrote the law he warned people that it was unholy to eat shellfish and certain types of meat. When our Lord came He said to ignore those laws and that the times ahead were more of a concern.

I have one question for you. Do you believe abortion is ok? In any situation including rape.
 Quoting: pur33nergy7


well no, He did not say ignore those laws and the time ahead were more of a concern.

what He actually said was, Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill.

the Law was given to Israel for one reason only, to show them they could never be "good enough" to earn salvation or God's favor. only the High Priest was allowed in the Holy of Holies and only AFTER there was a sacrifice for his sin. if he went into the Holy of Holies and had no blood sacrifice had been done for his sin, he dropped dead. read Lev, it tells about how a rope was tied around the priest, what had to be done to cover his sin, the bells on his robe. when the bells stopped ring, that meant he was dead and had to be dragged out.

also, the Law was NEVER given to the Gentiles, only to Israel. Christ was sent to save ISRAEL and when they rejected Him, the Gospel then went to the Gentiles and they were grafted in, remember? God also told them if they were guilty of breaking one Law, they were guilty of breaking all Laws. no man could live up to those Laws, it was impossible.

sacrifices were common place for Israel, their sin had to be covered and God told them without the shedding of blood, there was no forgiveness of sin. Christ was the final sacrifice and he was the fulfillment of the Law, Christ was the "new Law" plain and simple.

Christ came to fulfill that Law that God gave to Israel

no, personally i do not believe in abortion for any reason. i feel God is in control and i feel that if i were to get pregnant by rape, it's for a reason. scientifically, very few pregnancies occur with rape and i trust that God is in charge and control. being a Christian does not mean we are immune to the things of this world, bad things happen to Christians just like everyone else. it is the cost of sin in the world.
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You said "what He actually said was, Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill."

That's funny because He also said "I did not come to bring peace, but to divide with a sword"

Sweetheart, your salt has much flavor, and I like that. Do you understand what it means to be salt upon the earth? My sword has not run out of salt just yet. I respect you because of your belief, however, I find myself stuck between an admitted sinner and a Blackwater crusader. I believe in peace and love. I also believe in the right to irritate people who are lost. Salt irritates an open wound
 Quoting: pur33nergy7


the Bible also says to stone your disrespectful children, it says for women not to cut their hair, etc. He also said: Peace I leave with you; My peace I give to you; not as the world gives do I give to you. Do not let your heart be troubled, nor let it be fearful.

you believe in the right to irritate the lost?

He said: For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.

and:

And He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation."

does that sound like we are supposed to "irritate" and turn people away?

and He also said this:

Woe to the world because of its stumbling blocks! For it is inevitable that stumbling blocks come; but woe to that man through whom the stumbling block comes!

and

But take care that this liberty of yours does not somehow become a stumbling block to the weak.

so, are you going to cherry pick your Scriptures or take it as a WHOLE?
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Since this is an open forum, I'll take the liberty of stating my position on this question. 18 years ago I would have responded with an empathic "NO!!" Today, my position is quite different. I have learned the spirit/soul does NOT enter the physical body till just before the fetus is born. When you stop to think about it, why would a spirit/soul even want to reside in a fetus for 9 long months? Therefore, an abortion in the first few months only destroys the EMPTY vessel and NOT something divine. And besides, even IF the vessel already holds a spirit/soul, it can NEVER be destroyed!! The spirit/soul is both immortal and eternal.
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Haha. Thank's for giving me a reason to peg you with salt.
bushpunch
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Why do you have a problem with my reply? Is it not true the spirit/soul is immortal and eternal? If so, what's your problem?
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Life begins before conception fool. I assume you believe that your cousin is a chimpanzee and great grandpa came from a stagnant pond of primordial rock soup. If that's the case, then you are on the right track. Damn, I though this bullshit existed only in Amerikkka
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Ok, before Moses wrote the law he warned people that it was unholy to eat shellfish and certain types of meat. When our Lord came He said to ignore those laws and that the times ahead were more of a concern.

I have one question for you. Do you believe abortion is ok? In any situation including rape.
 Quoting: pur33nergy7


well no, He did not say ignore those laws and the time ahead were more of a concern.

what He actually said was, Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill.

the Law was given to Israel for one reason only, to show them they could never be "good enough" to earn salvation or God's favor. only the High Priest was allowed in the Holy of Holies and only AFTER there was a sacrifice for his sin. if he went into the Holy of Holies and had no blood sacrifice had been done for his sin, he dropped dead. read Lev, it tells about how a rope was tied around the priest, what had to be done to cover his sin, the bells on his robe. when the bells stopped ring, that meant he was dead and had to be dragged out.

also, the Law was NEVER given to the Gentiles, only to Israel. Christ was sent to save ISRAEL and when they rejected Him, the Gospel then went to the Gentiles and they were grafted in, remember? God also told them if they were guilty of breaking one Law, they were guilty of breaking all Laws. no man could live up to those Laws, it was impossible.

sacrifices were common place for Israel, their sin had to be covered and God told them without the shedding of blood, there was no forgiveness of sin. Christ was the final sacrifice and he was the fulfillment of the Law, Christ was the "new Law" plain and simple.

Christ came to fulfill that Law that God gave to Israel

no, personally i do not believe in abortion for any reason. i feel God is in control and i feel that if i were to get pregnant by rape, it's for a reason. scientifically, very few pregnancies occur with rape and i trust that God is in charge and control. being a Christian does not mean we are immune to the things of this world, bad things happen to Christians just like everyone else. it is the cost of sin in the world.
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You said "what He actually said was, Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill."

That's funny because He also said "I did not come to bring peace, but to divide with a sword"

Sweetheart, your salt has much flavor, and I like that. Do you understand what it means to be salt upon the earth? My sword has not run out of salt just yet. I respect you because of your belief, however, I find myself stuck between an admitted sinner and a Blackwater crusader. I believe in peace and love. I also believe in the right to irritate people who are lost. Salt irritates an open wound
 Quoting: pur33nergy7


the Bible also says to stone your disrespectful children, it says for women not to cut their hair, etc. He also said: Peace I leave with you; My peace I give to you; not as the world gives do I give to you. Do not let your heart be troubled, nor let it be fearful.

you believe in the right to irritate the lost?

He said: For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.

and:

And He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation."

does that sound like we are supposed to "irritate" and turn people away?

and He also said this:

Woe to the world because of its stumbling blocks! For it is inevitable that stumbling blocks come; but woe to that man through whom the stumbling block comes!

and

But take care that this liberty of yours does not somehow become a stumbling block to the weak.

so, are you going to cherry pick your Scriptures or take it as a WHOLE?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1394866


I take it as a whole for sure. I have read the Bible twice and some books more than five times. Peace and love sister. I could counter-quote you if I wanted to, but I don't want to right now. I'd rather pick on low-life scum who believe that abortion is ok because of their willful ignorance. Goodnight. Pray for me please
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Since this is an open forum, I'll take the liberty of stating my position on this question. 18 years ago I would have responded with an empathic "NO!!" Today, my position is quite different. I have learned the spirit/soul does NOT enter the physical body till just before the fetus is born. When you stop to think about it, why would a spirit/soul even want to reside in a fetus for 9 long months? Therefore, an abortion in the first few months only destroys the EMPTY vessel and NOT something divine. And besides, even IF the vessel already holds a spirit/soul, it can NEVER be destroyed!! The spirit/soul is both immortal and eternal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1375359



Haha. Thank's for giving me a reason to peg you with salt.
bushpunch
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Why do you have a problem with my reply? Is it not true the spirit/soul is immortal and eternal? If so, what's your problem?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1375359


Life begins before conception fool. I assume you believe that your cousin is a chimpanzee and great grandpa came from a stagnant pond of primordial rock soup. If that's the case, then you are on the right track. Damn, I though this bullshit existed only in Amerikkka
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In order for there to be an independent life - a spirit stream has to enter the body... This occurs at the time of birth - prior to this, the baby is entirely dependent on the mother...
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I have one question for you. Do you believe abortion is ok? In any situation including rape.
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Since this is an open forum, I'll take the liberty of stating my position on this question. 18 years ago I would have responded with an empathic "NO!!" Today, my position is quite different. I have learned the spirit/soul does NOT enter the physical body till just before the fetus is born. When you stop to think about it, why would a spirit/soul even want to reside in a fetus for 9 long months? Therefore, an abortion in the first few months only destroys the EMPTY vessel and NOT something divine. And besides, even IF the vessel already holds a spirit/soul, it can NEVER be destroyed!! The spirit/soul is both immortal and eternal.
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i would say life begins AT conception.

the heartbeat can be detected and heard at 14 days after conception, so i don't buy that life begins after the heartbeat.
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this was obviously a false flag for this 2012 shit to paint the eventual messiah in a bad light
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Haha. Thank's for giving me a reason to peg you with salt.
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Why do you have a problem with my reply? Is it not true the spirit/soul is immortal and eternal? If so, what's your problem?
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Life begins before conception fool. I assume you believe that your cousin is a chimpanzee and great grandpa came from a stagnant pond of primordial rock soup. If that's the case, then you are on the right track. Damn, I though this bullshit existed only in Amerikkka
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In order for there to be an independent life - a spirit stream has to enter the body... This occurs at the time of birth - prior to this, the baby is entirely dependent on the mother...
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Actually your prior quote said it all. I was even prepared to feel stupid for not realizing what you said before I concluded. You have the answer but you don't see it. What book are you getting your info from? Don't bring me some university bullshyt either or I will stomp you with logic
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I have one question for you. Do you believe abortion is ok? In any situation including rape.
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Since this is an open forum, I'll take the liberty of stating my position on this question. 18 years ago I would have responded with an empathic "NO!!" Today, my position is quite different. I have learned the spirit/soul does NOT enter the physical body till just before the fetus is born. When you stop to think about it, why would a spirit/soul even want to reside in a fetus for 9 long months? Therefore, an abortion in the first few months only destroys the EMPTY vessel and NOT something divine. And besides, even IF the vessel already holds a spirit/soul, it can NEVER be destroyed!! The spirit/soul is both immortal and eternal.
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i would say life begins AT conception.

the heartbeat can be detected and heard at 14 days after conception, so i don't buy that life begins after the heartbeat.
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In the mothers womb, the baby is developing and dependent on the mothers system...Yes, the life of the body begins at conception, but independent life does not begin until the cord is cut, and the spirit stream envelops the body...

This is shamanic teachings - I know it is counter to religious teachings - but, as we have already discussed - to each their own!!
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I have one question for you. Do you believe abortion is ok? In any situation including rape.
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Since this is an open forum, I'll take the liberty of stating my position on this question. 18 years ago I would have responded with an empathic "NO!!" Today, my position is quite different. I have learned the spirit/soul does NOT enter the physical body till just before the fetus is born. When you stop to think about it, why would a spirit/soul even want to reside in a fetus for 9 long months? Therefore, an abortion in the first few months only destroys the EMPTY vessel and NOT something divine. And besides, even IF the vessel already holds a spirit/soul, it can NEVER be destroyed!! The spirit/soul is both immortal and eternal.
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i would say life begins AT conception.

the heartbeat can be detected and heard at 14 days after conception, so i don't buy that life begins after the heartbeat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1394866


In the mothers womb, the baby is developing and dependent on the mothers system...Yes, the life of the body begins at conception, but independent life does not begin until the cord is cut, and the spirit stream envelops the body...

This is shamanic teachings - I know it is counter to religious teachings - but, as we have already discussed - to each their own!!
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Forget religious teachings. You can find a creative explanation with the science retards who think they know it all also. If you are complacent with your belief then you should check out the movie "existence"
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