The Lord Jesus Christ Says: " Harold Doesn't Really Know." [Published May 17, 2011 - Fulfilled May 21, 2011]

Hmmmmm ????

I would like to ask a question without being "Hated" or told I am doomed or satanic or something like that which is usually wat Happens when I am "Judged" all the time by chrsiatians.


Why is it that someone in pain or sorrow or anger at how badly they were abused by christians in their past is always the persons fault?

Why do you never say sorry or grieve with them and instead just curse them and point out all their faults like God made you all a judge on his behalf or something?

Why cant anyone HURT without being told its their fault by christians who hold this "Holier than thou" position on everyone?

Why cant chriatians ever be humble and loving and gentle with the wounded ones instead of pulling out their swords and running them through to finish them off?

WHY?

Or are you going to brush this off too with some smart alec quip of scripture like you always do to the hurting ones like me?

You always pass the buck and kick people when they are down.

You have done it to me so many many times.

You cant see past the anger and the pain to see why I am almost dead with the grief of what you people did to me and my family.

You will say it was "THEM" that did it NOT us for WE are so holy and WE are the only right ones.

I have been watching this thread from time to time as I have the others on this board and all you do is KILL and KILL and KILL peoples hurting hearts with your smug puffed up attitudes.

If I told you what my past was and what happenned to me at the hands of christins JUST like you would it make any difference?

And dont pass the buck again because it was YOUR brand of christian that did it to me..that took my life and killed my heart and left nothing there but grief and death and anger and a sorrow you cannot imagine.

The same type just like you. The same attitude and answers you give to people are the same answers they gave me. Noting but hate dressed up in bible verses.

You cannot admit to any faults. You cannot admit to and wrongs done. You cant even see how totally rotten and evil your whole attitude is to others.

You are so full of yourselves you have forgitten what love is.

You dont KNOW what love is because all I see here and on other threads is threats of doom and condescending scripture quoting and hate filled diatribe dressed up with dogma.

I hurt like hell and it never stops. The pain crushes me every day and all I see is more hate and condemnation and quips from you.

I see the things you say on other threads. So heartless for someone who claims to have the heart of Jesus.

Jesus is nothing like you at all and you are nothing like Jesus.

You think you are and all your other yes men and women butter you up to bolster your inflated ego and view of yourself but all I see in you are the faces of the ones who destroyed my family and my life and my joy and my heart.

No doubt you wont even have read this far because truth is too much for you to bear and even if you do you will be thingking right now "This guy is under satans control so he is evil and must be rebuked"

Am I right?

Right now you are thinking of some excuse or buck pass to shrug of a legitimate statement again.

You say only what you want to say and you only say what you have heard and you only hear what you want to hear.
Its a circle of insanity which completely forgets and tosses away everything jesus ever said.

A closed mind kills wounded hearts. And all I see from you and others like you is closed mind and everyone else is evil and doomed exceopt you and your little "Group".

You are almost as vile in your attitudes as that Mark Brander bloke. YOu dont rave on the same as him its true but you hold the same elitist attitude and total disregard of love or any human compassion.

You seem to forget that Jesus was a human and had human compassion because he was one himself.

Its is at all possible for you just ONCE to have a heart??to FEEL..to love? Or are you and the rest trapped forever in a mindset of hate and callousness and utter disdain for anyone who does not think like you do?

How have 'christians' hurt you in the past?

I have told you once before on another thread and you mocked at me and laughed.

Thats what hurts the most.

And the put "Christians" in inverted commas again passing the buck to the "Others" who are not like you.

You dont have a humble of sorroful bone in your body.

You talk about how great a prophet you are and yes you got a couple of things right too. But so did Jim Jones and others.

Didnt it say in the bible somethng like "If I speak with the toungue of angels and propesy and do all kinds of miracles and have not LOVE I am nothing?"

Thats you. And you are too full of yourself and your ways to see it.

You dont have love. You dont show love. You pass the buck all the time and make hateful comments mocking others on the other threads including to me.

I wont post them here because you will just erase them anyway and I am not going to sloop down to the level of pride where I have to "Prove" how right I am and how "Wrong" you are by posting it all over the place.

You really knew Jesus once. You did. You still have some of His gifts. But you have forgotten love and compassion and humility.

I speak this not to put you down but in the hope you might see the truth.

People respond to love. I know I do. And people are pushed away by pride and arrogance. I do and everyone else on tis forum has been pushed away.

Its not the gospel people hate. Its not Jesus people hate.

Its the arrogance and lack of love pity humility and compassion and the total hypocrisy they hate.

Why cant you see this?

I used to be like you. I did. Until my life was turned upside down and taken from me by people like you..with attitudes like yours.

I trusted them and I listened to them and it cost me everything and when it all flew apart they just stood by and said the sort of things you do when someone is down and out. Its all thier fault. They are evil. God is getting even with them for some sort of sin in their lives.

Dont deny you do this becaue I and everyone on here HAS seen it almost every day.

Please wake up. You do have a gift but you let pride destroy it.

In your statement you glorify yourself.

"By the time your realise how accurate I am it will be too late"

In other words "Listen to ME or DIE because I am the "Chosen" one and no one else is as good or as holy as me and by the time you sinners realise this you will be dying and thats just tought luck"

Cant you see it?

Where oh where is the love in that statement? Where is the glory that only God is supposed to recieve?

There is none. Its all about YOU and how great YOU are.
And this attitude shows in every self congratulatory post you do.

Return again to love..let yourself FEEL again. And use your gift in honour of the Lord. NOT in the honour of yourself.

That is all I will say now.

Find LOVE again..all of you.

Before the name of the Lord jesus is dragged through the mud much further.

Be a light in the dark..dont AID the dark.

Again, you fail to answer a simple question.

evil sense of humor!

The only hate and judgment I see here, is what you write in your own posts. You are incredibly angry, resentful and hurtful.

I have no idea what others have done to you and your family in the past, you haven't told us. But, the hate inside of you is eating you alive.

Take it to God in prayer, and ask Him to remove this pain and anger from your heart because it will destroy you.

+1

Check your email when you get a chance!

It has already destroyed me.

There is nothing that can change the past. There is nothing that can erase the memories. There is nothing that can bring my family back.

I am alone now and will be for the rest of my agony filled days. Gripped by a crushing weight you cannot imagine.

I think all my anger is coming to an end now as well. I dont even CARE enough anymore to BE angry.

Whats the point?

It changes nothing.

Whats the point of saying anything anymore. I am just a voice among millions screaming in agony like everyone else.
A nobody to you and everyone. Just another burnt our husk.

I will be gone soon in any case. I have perhaps six months to live. I am only 42 and I have been aged beyond my years by the cruel heartless treatment of the church and people like you.

I used to think there was life among believers. I did for so long. All I find is death and hate and heartlessness.
YOu dont even CARE that I die. YOu dont even CARE what happenned to me. YOu olny care about being RIGHT and being NOTICED..

And I dont even care about that anymore.

YOu want to be a cold callous unfeeling rock..then thats your problem. I no longer care what you or any christians do. YOu and your kind have killed me. A dead man feels nothing.

And I am dead man now.

And I dont even care about that.

Farewell.

It is never too late to change . Forgiveness is a great thing , it is a gift . It will make you feel so much better to let God be the judge and forgive these people who have hurt you in the past and let go of all that toxic anger .

Religion is the beast, and its appetite is insatiable for the blood of non-conformist!!

It's had a full trough for many a millennia to feed from!!

Sharpen you sword, get angry, get mad, do whatever it takes to behead the nasty beast!!


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If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!

And it is never to late to repent OP . People do care . I care . Take care .

Will you please tell me what happened? Maybe I can help to atleast shed some light or insight into what happened, and how to move forward from here.

I do care about you, and you are very precious to the Lord.

There is no "Moving forward" from here.
When one comes to the end of ones life there is no more "Forward".

Its all behind me now. My life is about over and Im glad it is.

If the whole purpose of my life was to be crushed and abused a the hands of the onse who SAY they know him then my destiny is complete.

Jesus had the same problem.

The pharisees killed him too.

AS I look back over my life and the events of it I can see a reason I can see a pattern and I can see the lessons.
Maybe the entire 42 years of my life was to learn one thing and one thing only...

Never trust men and never EVER trust christians. I made the mistake of doing both.

Lesson learnt.

The final lesson is the one im learning now.

The lesson of "Letting it go"...and dying in peace knowing my race was run and I overcame "Hypocrisy" and fake religion.

I met the Lord Jesus when I was 15 and never ever in my entire life did I see that same Jesus in the actions or faces or churches.

Jesus was LOVE. Pure love. Gentle love. FORGIVING love. Understanding Love.

All the "Believers" I have known in my life were the opposite.

But back then being a child I thought "They are the grown ups so they MUST know the way" ..well..they knew the way all right. The way of death. I followed ignorantly and it cost me everything.

If it was not for the meeting of the REAL Jesus I would have turned my back on God forever at 17 when I was almost bashed to death in a pentecostal church for the "Sin" of daring to ask a question.

I asked them the same question I asked here..WHY the double standards and hypocrisy and total lack of LOVE?

I got bashed almost to death the same way I have been here.
The question was
Bashed" out of me with condescending smart assed hypocritical crap.

Back then they used their fists. Now its words. But the SAME ATTITUDE is the cause of both.

I now understand what EVIL is.

Evil..TRUE evil...of the PUREST kind is only found in churches.

What you see on the streets is a muddy kind of evil. Wars and death and killing and murder is what I call "Muddy" evil. Why? Because at least THAT kind of evil is not hypocritical. What you see in the evil of the streets is what you get. It does not say it is one thing and does another.

It says "I AM evil and EVIL is what I do so live with it"

But in the churches and in the majority of christians I have known here and in the world its..

"I am GOOD..but EVIL is what I do..I preach LOVE..but HATE is what I show..I preach CARE..but CALLOUSNESS is what I DISH OUT"

Jesus had a REAL problem with fakers..ones who decieved themselves with doctrines like the pharisees.

They knew the bible..went through all the motions..big noted themselves like Once4all does..but when push came to shove they were the VILEST evil creatures in the world.

The purest EVIL is the one who PRETENDS to be good and tries to make a NAME for itself.

Its PRIDE and pride is EVIL.

The church of today is EVIL..the hearts of christians is EVIL as you can clearly see by their utter LACK of love.

The just judge and hate and curse and threaten and bash.

And then when I am hurting..angry..grieving..I am kicked when down. I tell the TRUTH about them which only brings OUT the truth ABOUT them..you see it clearly in their judgmental hate filled replies..their
Oh so self rightous condemnation of me for DARING to speak the truth.

Well..its over now.

Ive learnt that throwing pearls in front of swine IS in fact a waste of time.

Jesus was right.

Let the dead bury the dead.

Soon I will be dead too.

My life has been a lesson in what hypocrisy IS as compared to LOVE.

I was so ANGRY for so long. But now I see that anger is a phase. You get over it..and wipe the dust of your feet and walk on by.

Why should I let what happenned to me at the hands of the "Once4alls" of this world destroy what peace I have left at my end?

I am now letting it go.

I have said my peice. The anger is gone now.

Now I can rest and go and join my mother whom the church killed as well.

You are not being very fair by judging every Christian as the same . That is your problem . Your anger will not leave you until you stop being so irrational . I am saying these things because I want you to see properly and not be so angry . You need to see things more rationally friend .

The only "Christians" this post upsets and causes responses like yours are the "Christians" it is talking about.

They are lumped together for a reason.

The ones it offends are the guilty.

The ones who are not offended are not the christians mentioned.

A true christian would not be offended by it.

A fake one would.

Why?

Because TRUTH HURTS and always will.

Wow , you really think like that ??? I responded to your post out of love actually . Your posts in no way offend me . I was only trying to help .

You're speaking in such vague terms, and I still have absolutely no idea what happened to you. Would you please tell me your story so I can understand a little?

It's wonderful that you met Jesus, He is love, compassion and mercy. It's true that not all christians display these qualities, some do and some don't. Maybe you were in a church that didn't, and for that I'm sincerely sorry.

But, we are not all the same. We are just humans also, like you, doing the best that we can, but we are still imperfect and sinful.

I understand that you're hurting very badly, and I understand that you're angry. I get that.

But, do you think that Jesus would think it's ok to hate all Christians because of you suffered at the hands of a few? Can you find it within your heart to forgive those who hurt you?

Jesus forgave them, you can too if you try.

Do you still believe in the Bible? Do you still pray? You say that your life is over, why? Are you terminally ill?

It's important for you to find some closure here, and heal your broken heart. Everyone reading your posts can see that you're still very angry........and while you condem others you talk about love out of the other side of your mouth.

Can you see that this is no different from what you've said that other people did to you?

I'm just trying to help here, I do care about you.

Very nicely said.

we are suppose to love even when we aren't being loved. how do we do this? by forgiving. My friend, I'm very afraid for your soul. I'll tell you why....because if all that you say is true--- then you haven't forgiven your brothers and sisters. You will not go to heaven without complete forgiveness in your heart. It is mentioned many times in the N.T. If you don't forgive others, HE will not forgive you. VERY HEAVY!!!

Now, let me tell you something and listen to me carefully....there are many, many of us here who have been treated unfairily, been misunderstood and have been thrown out of the church. I am one. I have been where you're at. Thank the LORD that HE showed me that my bitterness and unforgiveness would be my utter destruction. I have now forgiven all who have betrayed me and left me to rot. Like Jesus said, 'they know not what they do.' I now love them and pray for them ....I pray for their salvation.
Jesus is the model we are to follow....he was betrayed, insulted and murdered.....yet HE still loved them!!

Your pity-party needs to stop....stop looking to others and being hurt....only look to the one who is PERFECT IN ALL HIS WAYS.

I tell you this in a spirit of love and not condemnation.

This is 100% truth!!!!! AMEN!!!!

Once4All....sent a pm

There have been many days I just wanted to flip out and go nuts.

Do you know how hard it is to keep such a deep grief and anger down?

Have you ever been so badly crushed you just scream and scream and scream in agony like your guts are beong pulled out with a hot wire from you rear end?


Have you ever felt a hate and a betrayal so DEEP from the ones you were brought up to think were the "Loving" ones only to find out the HARD way that they were in fact the very representaion of all that is EVIL?

Have you ever watched a loved one DIE at their hands..a loved one who spent her life trying to HELP them only to have them turn their backs on her on self rightous indignation because they dared to point out what I am pointng out now?

My mother is DEAD because of fake christians..DEAD..and gone..and I miss her so much. All she ever did was love people. She gave her life in the service of others.

It was AOG christians that killed her.

It was AOG type christians that almost BASHED me to DEATH LITERALLY because I too dared to ask "If you ARE real christians where is the LOVE? why do you always condemn others and put people down with bible verses and hate?"

It nearly cost me my life.

It ALMOST cost me my salvation too...I ALMOST walked away from the Lord at that point.

So my journey went on. Year after year and church after church. Searching for that LOVE that I KNEW was real..having experinced it..but never ever finding it in ANY type of christian...with a couple of RARE exceptions.

I felt I was the only one who had really MET the Lord..no one else could describe what I saw and knew when I was born again.

I tried them all..the same HATE was in every denomination..every church..and every heart. NO one knew what love was. They knew their bible and they knew doctrine and they knew how to HATE everyone who didnt see things THEIR way. But they never KNEW what love was...having never met jesus for themselves.

Once you know what real love is you also know what real evil is as well. The contrast is so obvious.

Making a prophecy that comes to pass does NOT mean you have love. Doing a miracle does NOT mean you have love.

Only LOVE is real and sometimes I wish Jesus had no shown me what REAL love is. Because I have spent my life now with eyes opened to the truth of how evil christianity has become.

There are true christians. I have met three or four. But they too are shunned for the same reason the pharisees shunned Jesus..because he had a terrible habit of telling it like it IS. They did not LIKE what they heard because it exposed their black hearts underneath the doctines and dogmas.

People point out my hate...and yes..I do have hate. What human being does not at some point have hate?
God has hate to. He hates EVIL.

I know how he feels because I hate EVIL as well. I LOATHE it.

Its one thing to hate for the right reasons and another thing to hate for the wrong.

I have hate..but for the RIGHT reasons. I HATE the fakery. I HATE the pretend. And I have spent my life seeing it all around. Pretence. fakery.

The ones who are supposed to have the light are the very ones who are the darkest of all.

The turn people AWAY with their self rightous trickery..their smug "IM so holy and YOU are evil and will BURN in hell" arrogant smugness.

They mock anyone who dares to point out their OBVIOUS lies and hypocrisy.

I know I am not perfect. I am far from it myself. But at LEAST I am honest about it. I wear my heart on my sleeve. You all know me. YOu see what I say. You see the agony in my heart. YOu may or may not understand. You have not lived my life. You have spent most of it in a bubble..protected form the storms.

My life has been nothing BUT storms. And no shelter could be found..in any chiurch..in any book..in any prophecy or doctrine. No love was to be found. Only more hate and judgment and condemnation.

So now I am dying from a broken heart. Crushed by the ones who pretend to be the "Loving ones" but who are really all that is evil in the world.

The reason I lump all chrsitians together in what I say is because only the FAKE ones get offended by it. Only the FAKE ones fight and spit and kill and judge.

The real ones..the ones who KNOW what love truly is..read it and say "I UNDERSTAND"...and I love you."

The fake..just HATE and make excuses and say "Its the OTHERS who are like that..NOT ME...you need to REPENT or be BURNT IN HELL for daring to come against ME the holy one"

YOu see what I mean?

Thats why Jesus told the parable of the pharisee and the tax collector in full hearing of the pharisees themselves.

The ones who were offended were the ones who were the guilty.

Anyways..the anger I feel is a rightous anger..and a very HUMAN anger. I would NOT be very human if I did not feel pain over what happenned.

It is not a sin to say what one really feels but it IS a sin to christians to point out hypocrisy and pride because it exposes them for what they really are.

Pharisees..modern day ones.

They think they have the light but they put forth darkness.

You can tell who is really of the lord and who is not.

A real christians gathers people in with LOVE.

A fake on scatters them with threats of HELL and JUDGMENT and DOOM..especially if you dare to disagree.

jesus said "They will KNOW you are my disciples by their LOVE..."

There is NO LOVE to be found in and church..just scripture and dogma and hate and self righotus puffuppery.

There is NO LOVE to be found in constantly threatening people with HELL all the time.

Try love. It works.

I have seen perhaps two threads here at GLP where LOVE was tried instead of hate filled judgment.

Lots of people..even Hard truth..responded and began to soften.

You attract more bees with honey than viegar.

try it some time.

As for me...I am going home soon. My life is done. I cant wait to die now. Ive had enough. I am so tired..so worn out.

What I have wrong physically is something that cannot be cured by doctors. Its a broken heart. Stress damage. Irreversable. So be it. I want to sleep..to rest..to go home..to the Love I knew when I was 15 and met the REAL Jesus..who loved me..who..loved..ME..for who I am..for what I am..and he told me then//"One day you will understand your life and the reasons for what you are to go through. Until then just trust me..do not trust man"

He knew then I would be led astray for a while. But that was the lesson..to learn the difference bewteen REAL love..and fake love..REAL light..and fake light. REAL christians..and fake ones.

Now I know.

I have posted what I have learnt all over GLP..playing roles to make the point.

It has worked..because most people here at GLP will no longer be FOOLED by the fake,,let alone listen to them.

My job is done. I can rest now.

Although I have many MANY imperfections..at least I know JESUS understand them..and forgives those with an honest heart.

I am honest..and have hidden nothing now.

Perhaps..now..you will understand..that God does work in ways we never can truly figure out.

If my whole life has been for this one time..these few weeks at GLP doing what I have done to immunise people against the FAKE..then it has been worth it.

From now on..forget about me..dont even worry now about me..no..dont even pray.

I want to go home..I long for it with all my heart.

Peace...love..rest..and my family await me.

And I truly apolagise for those ones here I may have hurt or insulted in the process...those who were trying to help me..but whom I misunderstood in my "Zeal"...forgive me. I am so sorry.

God knows my heart..and he knows I make mistakes.

Please forgive me if I have made one against you.

I still have no idea what happened. Will you share your story?

Listen, here's the thing. We are all imperfect. I'm inperfect and everyone else here is also imperfect. I understand what you're saying about hate, love and hypocricy, I get it. I've seen it most of my life too. I"ve also had a very difficult life, in fact it's a miracle that I"m still alive. Many times I thought I was just born to suffer and that's the truth.

But........but, when I understood who Jesus was, and felt His love for me and the rest of the world, I stopped seeing the evil in everything and I started to see things in a different way.

I was watching tv one day recently, and I heard "I look for the good in people, not the bad". Jesus looks for the good, He focuses on the good, not the bad. We would all be doomed it He only saw the bad.

I think that your pain and grief over losing your mother and the betrayal of people you thought were your friends. I get it. But, you have to look past the pain and see the good in people. We are not all bad, we are humans just like you.

Your life is a gift, and it's important to the one who created you. You're cursing your own life, which hurts Jesus because He loves you and wants you to live, share love and be happy. But, you're not doing those things, your blinded by pain and anger.

How is this bringing glory and honor to Jesus? How are you making the world a better place by being angry and wanting to run away from it all? Maybe it's time to stop thinking about yourself and how you feel, and put God's will first in your life and live for Him and spread His message of love and salvation to the millions of people on this planet that still have no clue.

Do you care about others, or just your own pain and anger?

Strike Three!

October 21 ???

Your very kind to by typing all this Lisa. If poster does not openly and honestly respond then she/he is just playing games.

Good Morning!

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