The Lord Jesus Christ Says: " Harold Doesn't Really Know." [Published May 17, 2011 - Fulfilled May 21, 2011]

I need to address this because several people keep saying Once4all and his followers.

First of all, Once4all and I are friends. Good friends! I don't follow him and he doesn't follow me. We are friends.

Do you have any friends? If so, using your logic, you're "following" your friends. How ridiculous a statement is that.

Do you understand how a friendship works? You support eachother, encourage eachother, show love to eachother, and enjoy eachother's company. That's what a friendship relationship is. That is what Once4all and I share, along with several other posters here as well. We are friends, we enjoy eachohter's company and we have the same interests. That's it, it goes no further then that. There is no leader here and no follower either, we are all equal brothers and sisters in the Lord.

Secondly, several posters are saying that Once4all posts here because he has a big ego. I want to address this as well because it's getting really old. Not one of you even know who he is in real life. A person who is looking to exhault himself will make himself known in a big way. He appears on tv and radio, using his full real name, and he spreads his name far and wide to gain fame and fortune for himself.

Nobody here ever receives a single dime. Nobody here even uses their real full name, so there is no recognition or fame. If you met once4all in real life, you wouldn't even know him because you don't even know his name or anything about him.

These issues need to be addressed because satan keeps on using them to try and silence the messages of Jesus, and it's just not going to work. I can see right through it and so can many others as well.

His Holy Name will be preached till the very last day. That is a fact.

Wow, how very ignorant and biased of you. And I say ignorant, because anyone who shuts their mind off to even the POSSIBILITY that someone else has information of relevance that they wish to share is just out and out an ignorant, arrogant moron. Far as I can see Once4All has predicted good things which have come to pass well before they came to pass.

Moreover, since you are using biblical scripture to somehow prove your point, let me show you your error. It is an error that MANY Christians make when reading the bible. They take only a few words about an issue and either disregard others or don't have the knowledge and/or intelligence to incorporate ALL aspects of the word into a living picture (much like building a jigsaw puzzle, there IS a picture there and taking one piece or a few pieces and saying you have the picture is the epitome of arrogant stupidity.)

Below is one of those important things, relevant to this discussion (in regards to Once4All) that God tells us through Peter:

As each has received a gift, employ it for one another (or serve it up to one another) as good stewards of God's varied grace: whoever speaks, as one who utters oracles of God; whoever renders service, as one who renders it by the strength which God supplies; in order that in everything God may be glorified through Jesus Christ... 1 Peter 4:10,11

There are many other scriptures (especially from Paul) that talk about spiritual gifts given to those who are both with the Spirit and of the Church. It is not my job to list them here for you, it is YOUR job (as you stated) to read the entirety of the bible until you have incorporated the entire word into a free flowing, living picture in your mind. Being able to access parts of that picture (or scripture) at whim is even better, so long as you don't disclude the entirety of scripture in the process. SO you see, understanding one aspect or another in full is NOT enough. The equivalency to that would be of an engineer of who only understands one part (in full) of how the space shuttle works, yet tries to build (or teach someone else to build) an entire space shuttle himself (or herself.) It is the road to failure.

End of line.

AMEN! Wonderful insight and truth!

There is a difference between words of knowledge and prophecy OP , are you saying that you are a Prophet ???

So watch yourselves. "If your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him. Luke 17:3

Just because we disagree does not mean we are hateful .

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If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!

If hearing the Lord speaking to you means that you're a prophet, then I personally know about 15 prophets.

Most strong Christians that I know, that walk very close to the Lord, hear from Him on a regular basis.

Deu 18:20 "But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die."

Jer 23:21 "I have not sent these prophets, yet they ran: I have not spoken to them, yet they prophesied."

Deu 18:22 "When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him."

What day did Kadhafi die OP and how did he die ???

I'm wondering if Harold is going to give back all of the millions that were donated by the people that he deceived.

So where is Camping and what is his explanation? He's not coming outside of his house.

[link to gothamist.com]

No, i am not a prophet. I've said that many times.

they are Words of Knowledge.

Arg, I've been trying to get some things done here now

some company just pulled up my driveway. It may be quite

a while befor i can check back.. I will try to respond to

and questions or comments later!

If they hated the Lord they will hate you. They are validating your ministry by their extreme hate they are a bunch of vipers

Yeah he should give it back , I heard he is quite wealthy . That is why I was so outspoken on this thread because isn't this just part of the problem . People claiming to speak for God and leading others astray . Just adding more confusion to the mix . They used to stone false prophets back in the day , it was a capital offense . That just shows how serious it is .

I'm trying to access Harold Camping's website www.familyradio.com and I'm just getting a blank page.

Can anyone else access it?

I also believe he should give it back. People make mistakes, Harold is only human and he made a mistake. Granted, it was a HUGE mistake and a terrible one.

He should stand up, admit it, and give back all of the money. Many people spent their entire life savings on this........ok they were stupid........but he should make an attempt to atleast give back to these poor people what is left.

It's such a pity. I feel really bad about the whole thing.

Says lol whahahahah SAYS?? Oh my so it speaks to you... please go away with your church crap god is not what you think it is and especially not what the church feeds you in your brain... so stop talking holy crap things...

Dude the whole religion thing is a big business all the sheep are believing in "GOD" so you can make big bucks with that why do you think those priests have nice cars and houses, why do you think the vatican has a golden toilet where that damn pope does his shit work on, but the poor people suffer because ooh its bad to want to be rich and to think big, nooo the church should change this in its bad to become smart cus than the people will stop donating money in the churches funds... screw the church and screw god if it exists than it does a bad job i think it is the Antichrist :)

What happened to the poor old sap? Cool aid? Waco^2?

I, personally (and only personally,) believe that the OP's track record speaks for itself. Yet the OP is not the only one I have come across that has claimed to receive insight from the Spirit. I know of two others (one in person) who has predicted events well before they happened. Funny thing is most Christians disregard the track record and words of the oracles of God right off the bat. They don't even bother to store the knowledge of what they were told to see if it happens, they just disregard it outright and look at these people as if they are crazy. And I can understand why, too many people have come forward claiming to be prophets of God and their words have always rung empty. Take Camping for example, he has (again) made Christians the laughingstock of non-believers in his claim.

Moreover, as more and more of these people make predictions that ring hollow more and more will the non-believers look at Christianity with disdain. This, of course, severely affects our ability to successfully give the good news of salvation through Jesus; as most will see Harold Camping and his failed "biblical guarantee" of the end of the world when Jesus is spoken of to them. It also detrimentally affects the words of prophets who's prophecies have come to light and held solid.

On a side note, saying that the rapture can happen at ANY moment is not true as well. Jesus personally accused the Israelites of not having paid attention to the "season" of His coming and their salvation. Paying attention to the seasons is God's way of telling us to watch for the fulfillment of prophecy to know where we stand, in time, with His calendar of events. Thusly, when speaking of the rapture (or the translation of the living saints) and the fact that it could happen at any time in not entirely true. There are still events that must take place, according to God, before the removal of the saints. The most important, of course, is that (according to Paul) the "man of sin" must appear, speaking blasphemies. The falling away must come before that (which we have not seen yet, though I believe that Camping and others like him are contributing to this event over time.) Yet, the greatest one of these prophecies HAS happened, that being that Israel has become a nation again, with Jerusalem as its capitol.

We are right on the cusp of many prophecies taking place, we see the buildup of events in regions of the mid east that are very important biblically. We see world events (especially on the economic front) leading towards a period of time where people will suffer greatly and call out for help no matter what the price they must pay. At this time the beast will come forward and offer the solution. From that moment on the rapture of the saints is possible at any time (though a few smaller prophecies must also happen in there somewhere as well.)

As I stated before, Scripture is a living picture. You must take that picture in its entirety to understand it correctly. If you only have a small part of it, then you only have a part of the entirety of the data. Much of the new testament (almost all really) refers back to the old testament so that one can merge both what is said in the new and the further data provided in the old. Keys to keys, which leads to more keys of knowledge. Yes, it is all very complex if you are of the kind that wants to delve into details, but that is the beauty of God's mind, He has made scripture simple to follow for the simple, and VERY complex for the intelligent who wishes to know more. No collection of mere men could have done so over a period of time lasting hundreds and thousands of years. It is one of the major proofs of God, to me, that Scripture is divinely inspired. If you understand any of what I just said you will see what I have seen.

Oh noes!! They have come for you!! Don't let them shut you up man! FIGHT THE POWER!! Resist!!!! :P

Just because ignorant human beings use something for the garnering of power does NOT discount its truth. That is an argument based in stupidity (and fuzzy logic.) I look at it this way: if I want to discount something from being true, I would do it from the inside. I would infiltrate the organization and corrupt (or destroy) it from the inside. It is the way clandestine operations have been done around the world for decades (maybe even centuries.) It is what our CIA does today to change events globally (Gadhafi anyone?) So, if you were Satan, or a group of people who wanted to destroy world religion, wouldn't you use the same precepts in your fight? Corrupt, discredit and destroy it from within. It is exactly what people like the Vatican, mad prophets, Mormons, Jehova's Witnesses, etc. have been doing for years (some for centuries.) It is a brilliant and quiet ploy that works. Yet, it avoids the truth in Scripture, it corrupts it and feeds the people a "processed" version of it. Nevertheless, this does not make Scripture false. It just distracts and corrupts.

Satan is not a "dumb ass." He has used this method since the dawn of time. Even in Israel: corrupt and discredit God and His word from within it's own followers and organizations, especially the Church (after Christ.)

Get it? Good. No? Oh well, not my job.

I"m concerned for Ice, he hasn't come back and posted. It's like the whole "WeatherBill" scenario all over again.

WOOHOO FOR BEING PINNED!!

What if he were off by a few days with his calcs?

its me or more the time pass and more people believe all thing not true like Jesus

start believe rael ... maybe its the true jesus lol

hahaha

With all due respect..he should know better

No sympathy on my behalf towards that man..none.

well deserved pin op

Jesus said quite clearly no one knows the time except the Father..
In fact in my opinion he should be held accountable so whenever someone else gets the bright idea to become an end time prophet speaking for God they might give it a second thought

My sheep hear my voice
and they wont follow the voice of a stranger.

In the last days there will be lots of false teachers,
false ways, that may decieve even the elect, if it were possibe.