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The Lord Jesus Christ Says: " Harold Doesn't Really Know." [Published May 17, 2011 - Fulfilled May 21, 2011]

 
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The Lord Jesus Says:

Harold Doesn't Really Know




Matthew and Mark agree on what the Lord Jesus Said:

Mat 24:36 "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."

Mar 13:32 "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."
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ad fucking nauseam
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Harold Camping

Camping being interviewed in 2011
Born July 19, 1921 (1921-07-19) (age 89)
Boulder, Colorado, United States
Occupation Talk radio personality, self-published Christian author, civil engineer
Years active 1958–present
Known for End times predictions
Website
familyradio.com

Harold Egbert Camping (born July 19, 1921) is a Christian radio broadcaster[1] and president of Family Radio, a California-based religious broadcasting network that spans more than 150 outlets in the United States as well as a website.

Camping's trademarks include his deep, sonorous voice coupled with a slow cadence. He has also used mathematical predictions applied to the Bible to predict dates for the end of the world.[2] His current end times prediction is that the Rapture will be on May 21, 2011 and that God will completely destroy the Earth and the universe five months later on October 21.[3][4] He had previously predicted that the Rapture would occur in September 1994.[5]


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ad fucking nauseam
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WOW NO SPELLING ERRORS!!!!!!!!!
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This Word of Knowledge teaches me that this man had no God Given Insight to proclaim a May 21, 2011 rapture.
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so if the rapture happens on may 21, will you apologise to harold and admit that you were making it up???????
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This Word of Knowledge teaches me that this man had no God Given Insight to proclaim a May 21, 2011 rapture.
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The Lord Jesus Says:

Harold Doesn't Really Know




Matthew and Mark agree on what the Lord Jesus Said:

Mat 24:36 "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."

Mar 13:32 "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."

 Quoting: Once4All


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ad fucking nauseam
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1358936


WOW NO SPELLING ERRORS!!!!!!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1182599


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You don't know either. Harold just might be right. He has pored over the KJ Bible for over 50 years. Best to be ready anyways.
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@Above: OP never claimed he knows the day. No man does!
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He certainly doesn't know. It doesn't matter if he spent 50 years researching the Bible etc etc, no man knows the day NO MATTER WHAT! It's kinda funny though... spending 50 years on this and he missed what Mark and Matthew said :)
The rapture could take place May 20th or in one minute from now. No one knows!


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we should be ready at all times and not be like the 5 sleeping virgins who slept right through HIS coming.
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The Lord Jesus Says:

Harold Doesn't Really Know




Matthew and Mark agree on what the Lord Jesus Said:

Mat 24:36 "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."

Mar 13:32 "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."

 Quoting: Once4All


Hmmm... looks like plagiarism is afoot.
All matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves.....


Read more: All matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves..... - Bill Hicks R.I.P.
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Who would ever base any judgment upon a person named "Harold"...? Good Grief.
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The Lord Jesus Says:

Harold Doesn't Really Know




Matthew and Mark agree on what the Lord Jesus Said:

Mat 24:36 "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."

Mar 13:32 "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."

 Quoting: Once4All


I realized many years ago, ok maybe a lil ago. That God could use anyone to teach a lesson. Make any wrong into a right.
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The Lord Jesus Says:

Harold Doesn't Really Know




Matthew and Mark agree on what the Lord Jesus Said:

Mat 24:36 "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."

Mar 13:32 "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."

 Quoting: Once4All


I realized many years ago, ok maybe a lil ago. That God could use anyone to teach a lesson. Make any wrong into a right.
 Quoting: ash ye ash ye


But that would mean God would discredit his own word by not sticking with the above verses. God is not a liar.
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Re: The Lord Jesus Christ Says: " Harold Doesn't Really Know." [Published May 17, 2011 - Fulfilled May 21, 2011]
Thanks for posting OP.

Of course this will be used to reinforce the case of those that belong to the world; It doesn't change a thing but it seems so many well intentioned will be questioning things and the best thing to do is support and keep shining the light of the Lord. So much energy was dedicated to this. We are in a spiritual war.

The best study I have seen on this topic comes from David Reagan at Lamb and Lion.

Harold Camping-The Madness of Date-Setting by Dr. David R. Reagan
[link to www.lamblion.com]
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Bro. Harold will have sum splainin' to do...5/22nd. !
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Re: The Lord Jesus Christ Says: " Harold Doesn't Really Know." [Published May 17, 2011 - Fulfilled May 21, 2011]
Matthew and Mark agree on what the Lord Jesus Said:

Mat 24:36 "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."

Mar 13:32 "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."

 Quoting: Once4All


And then, later, after these words were spoken, we were given The Revelation...
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@Above: OP never claimed he knows the day. No man does!
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+1
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Thus Says the Lord to the Churches of Men and to All Their Self-Appointed Apostles, Prophets and Teachers



""Oh the vanity and pride of men, who continually seek after their own glory,
Led about by the evil one, as one with a hook in his mouth, saying within themselves,
‘Look at all I have done. See how I have come to speak for the Most High.
See how I have become like Him.’



You prophets shall be brought down to death, and your destruction shall come swiftly upon your own head, when the Lord comes in His judgment to strip you naked and bury you under the weight of your fallen riches. I shall strike you down, and you shall collapse in a heap... Even as that, which you have built with MY money, collapses upon you.
Shall a prophet seek after My voice to gain it, through the knowledge of men?! Can the gifts of My own Spirit be attained by human power?!...



You have prophesied lies!... LIES! ...

In My own name...""

HEAR HIM....THIS THE LORD'S WARNING...NOT THE WARNING OF ANY MAN....
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The Lord Jesus Says:

Harold Doesn't Really Know




There you go again with the name dropping. you are truly in the ranks of the harold's of the world. when i asked Jesus Christ about you he said "once4all doesn't really know".
I said "i agree". The Kingdom of Heaven will handle people like you later. Right now, they are too busy monitoring the world. You might benefit from getting to know God, actually living the 10 commandments, and keeping your nose out of other peoples business. I can tell by your heinous references to people in the news that you have made glp your own news forum, making sure to keep your name in the headlines. turnaround is fair play. There may be some weeds growing in your own garden. You will be held accountable for your earthly actions.
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Thus Says the Lord to the Churches of Men and to All Their Self-Appointed Apostles, Prophets and Teachers



""Oh the vanity and pride of men, who continually seek after their own glory,
Led about by the evil one, as one with a hook in his mouth, saying within themselves,
‘Look at all I have done. See how I have come to speak for the Most High.
See how I have become like Him.’



You prophets shall be brought down to death, and your destruction shall come swiftly upon your own head, when the Lord comes in His judgment to strip you naked and bury you under the weight of your fallen riches. I shall strike you down, and you shall collapse in a heap... Even as that, which you have built with MY money, collapses upon you.
Shall a prophet seek after My voice to gain it, through the knowledge of men?! Can the gifts of My own Spirit be attained by human power?!...



You have prophesied lies!... LIES! ...

In My own name...""

HEAR HIM....THIS THE LORD'S WARNING...NOT THE WARNING OF ANY MAN....
 Quoting: HungryChild 1242107


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we should be ready at all times and not be like the 5 sleeping virgins who slept right through HIS coming.
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and always careful our teaching lines up with scripture.
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The Lord Jesus Says:

Harold Doesn't Really Know




Matthew and Mark agree on what the Lord Jesus Said:

Mat 24:36 "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."

Mar 13:32 "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."

 Quoting: Once4All


Amen!!

Jesus Told us no one would know of his return... NO ONE!!!! Well only God but that is it...
To be Saved you must Pray and Trust in the Lord Our God Jesus Christ! God Loves You All!
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Re: The Lord Jesus Christ Says: " Harold Doesn't Really Know." [Published May 17, 2011 - Fulfilled May 21, 2011]
Question: "Is Harold Camping and Family Radio a cult?"

Answer: On his radio program entitled "Family Radio," Harold Camping is teaching that people should flee from their churches. This teaching is contrary to sound biblical interpretation. It may be of interest to know that this is not the first time Camping has promoted teachings that were based on his personal opinion rather than on sound biblical exegesis. Camping wrote a book early in the 1990s titled "1994?" In this book, Harold Camping speculated, perhaps "claimed" would be more accurate, that history would end in September of 1994. Christ would return and judge the world, according to Camping. Camping was obviously wrong, and we know from Scripture that God’s prophets are never wrong.

Harold Camping employs an allegorical method of interpreting Scripture. Because of this method, the meaning of any Scripture passage is purely subjective, subject to the mind and imagination of the person. As an example, Camping claims that the two witnesses in Revelation 11:3 are the Church. In Revelation 11, two people come as witnesses, testifying to the world of the coming wrath of God. Harold Camping states this is a picture of the Church and that when the Church's witness is over, God will destroy or kill the Church. There is nothing in the text that would even possibly hint that those witnesses in any way represent the Church. In fact, you don't need a special code in order to understand the Book of Revelation. What is recorded in Revelation 11 should be taken at face value. In the future, God will send two people who will witnesses for Him. It says they will prophesy for 1260 days or 3 1/2 years (the Jewish calendar had 360 days for a year). Their message will be to the people of the earth who are about to experience God's wrath in the form of judgments. Their message will most likely be one of repentance (see Revelation 9:20-21). The people will not repent, and the witnesses at the end of their assigned time will be killed.

Camping's use of an allegorical method of interpretation for Scripture, and especially for unfulfilled prophecy, is fatally flawed. It undermines the very nature of communication. God gave us His Word to communicate very specific information. Our job when approaching Scripture is to determine what God is communicating. God is the One who gave us the ability to communicate. If we used Harold Camping's approach for understanding literature, we might read the newspaper and see that the weather is going to be rainy. We would then say that the real meaning of the weather report was that the writer of the newspaper was in a bad mood (because he wrote that it would be rainy). We would miss the real and plain information about the weather for the day. This is what Harold Camping has done concerning unfulfilled prophecy. He has seen it all as an allegory and applies it all to the Church.

Harold Camping has stated that the witness of the Church is over and that God has destroyed it. Believers should leave the church. He has concluded that the Church is dead, only existing as a shell of its former self. There should no longer be pastors, elders, or deacons. People should not be submitting to spiritual leadership. He says that the Holy Spirit is no longer present in the Church and that people who are accepting Christ as Savior in the Church are really not saved since the Holy Spirit is not present there.

However, it seems that Harold Camping has overlooked the very nature of the Church. The Church is inseparable from the Lord Jesus Christ, God the Son. The Church is the body of Christ, with Christ as the Head (Ephesians 1:22; 4:15; 5:23; Colossians 1:18; 2:19). There will not be a time when the Church does not exist. Jesus said He would build His church and the gates of hell would “not prevail against it” (Matthew 16:18). There will however, be a time when the Church is not on this earth. The Lord will remove the Church from this earth in an event called the Rapture. The Church will then forever be with the Lord (1 Thessalonians 4:13-18).

Because of his allegorical method of interpretation, Harold Camping has failed to see a distinction between Israel and the Church. The future events presented in Revelation 4:1-19:21 do not involve the Church—the Church will be removed prior to this future time. The events of Revelation 4:1-19:21 are the finishing of God's plan for Israel (see Daniel 9:24-27).

We strongly urge people to have nothing to do with Harold Camping and Family Radio. Do not to listen to him—he has forsaken sound doctrine on many issues.

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Nauseam be spell nauseum, ainy?

Tyrone, axe Leroy to bring me dat dictionery dere, by da teebee.

Now lessee hyeah.... naw...naw...nau..nauseum.

See dere, crackuh, you cain eben spell nauseum correck!
Git own outa hyeah.
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Re: The Lord Jesus Christ Says: " Harold Doesn't Really Know." [Published May 17, 2011 - Fulfilled May 21, 2011]
Matthew 24 also Gives Jesus' Witness that all but the very elect will be deceived....

Here is St. John's Witness from First Epistle as to how Born-Agains who are "the very elect" are Given To Know:

20. But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.
21. I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.


27. But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.



A pity that all these carnal-hearted Christians can't put their Full Faith In God The Father and make their surrender Unto HIM.

Any Born-Again would have Received God's Witness and following HIS Will already be Prepared and Delivered from what is coming.

All these poor deceived people are simply being chumped-out because of the conjecture and self-willed false-witness of ministers who are themselves alienated from God.
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Matthew 24 also Gives Jesus' Witness that all but the very elect will be deceived....

Here is St. John's Witness from First Epistle as to how Born-Agains who are "the very elect" are Given To Know:

20. But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.
21. I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.


27. But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.



A pity that all these carnal-hearted Christians can't put their Full Faith In God The Father and make their surrender Unto HIM.

Any Born-Again would have Received God's Witness and following HIS Will already be Prepared and Delivered from what is coming.

All these poor deceived people are simply being chumped-out because of the conjecture and self-willed false-witness of ministers who are themselves alienated from God.
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