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WHAT FREQUENCY DOES THE SCHUMANN RESONANCE CYCLE ON?
Just a question I am putting out there. Need to know the real frequency of the Schumann Resonance.

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thought it was 442
I know nothing except that.

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It's 7.83Hz

Not sure what the other guy is talking about.
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Just a question I am putting out there. Need to know the real frequency of the Schumann Resonance.

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I believe it was 8hz. The reciprocal of the time it takes for EM waves to circumnavigate the globe.
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Does that answer your question OP?
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It's 7.83Hz

Not sure what the other guy is talking about.
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shit, I thought he was talking about the alt. tuning frequency for instruments.
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WHAT FREQUENCY DOES THE SCHUMANN RESONANCE CYCLE ON?
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Oh...you mean SchuMANN! LOL
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Schumann resonances are the principal background in the electromagnetic spectrum between 3 and 69 Hz, and appear as distinct peaks at extremely low frequencies (ELF) around 7.83, 14.3, 20.8, 27.3 and 33.8 Hz.

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Does that answer your question OP?
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Yes it does. I have had more than quite the few 7.82 answers, telling 7.82 is where it's at. So you guys know this. It can also range from 6 to 49 cycles per minute. It can speed up or slow down to those levels.

Can there be two Schumann resonance at different frequencies at the same time?
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Does that answer your question OP?
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Yes it does. I have had more than quite the few 7.82 answers, telling 7.82 is where it's at. So you guys know this. It can also range from 6 to 49 cycles per minute. It can speed up or slow down to those levels.

Can there be two Schumann resonance at different frequencies at the same time?
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One going faster that the other one?
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Yeah, 443 Hz is a strident or sharpened Middle A. It is becoming common with some rock music, don't know who else might be using it.

Most tuners are centered around 440 Hz, but Middle A has been increasing in frequency for many hundreds of years. In Baroque times it was 421, but was not truly even somewhat standardized until the first tuning fork was invented in 1711 at 423.2 Hz. Because they were rare, it wandered around increasing to 432 in modern orchestral times, finally being once again standardized at the commonly accepted 440 Hz...which was encouraged by easy synchronization with 50 and 60Hz AC power.


As for the Schumann Resonance, I've always heard and read it's average value around the Earth as 7.83 Hz. The seventh and eighth harmonics are supposed to be 50 and 60 Hz, the frequencies of the world's AC power grids.


It was reportedly discovered by German technicians placing microphones to record movement in fox-holes during WWI...I'd like to duplicate that experiment. If anyone knows the procedure, I'd love to do it here in Detroit...if only to get an accurate measurement locally of the fundamental tone and any resonance which may agree with it.



To answer that question, OP, yes...there are other tones which harmonize with any pure tone...every pure thing has a resonance point and will vibrate at even divisors and multiples of that exact frequency. I've done frequency sweeps of home entertainment systems where china in another room would vibrate like crazy, at one frequency which would make them move...then multiples and divisions of it which have distinctively different volume levels. Same resonant pieces, pure so there are no internal damping of the energy, but they'd rattle at many frequencies...at various levels but with one that is clearly dominant.


That would be my clearest way for you to analogize resonance frequencies and understand many freqencies traveling 'together'. Did that make any sense?!

If we had a spectral graph of amplitude versus frequency, you'd see a huge spike at 7.83 then smaller ones at the multiples as detailed in the Wiki article, which I've seen confirmed in a few other sources. I've never learned why they are not clean multiples...15.66, 31.32, 62.64...for the 2nd, 4th, and 8th, but it might be due the Earth's atmospheric cavity's internal damping. It IS made of some curiously different densities of water alone! That friction or resistance alone might dampen the harmonics of the fundamental Schumann frequency.


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Does that answer your question OP?
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Yes it does. I have had more than quite the few 7.82 answers, telling 7.82 is where it's at. So you guys know this. It can also range from 6 to 49 cycles per minute. It can speed up or slow down to those levels.

Can there be two Schumann resonance at different frequencies at the same time?
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One going faster that the other one?
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Yes. Can there?
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Yeah, 443 Hz is a strident or sharpened Middle A. It is becoming common with some rock music, don't know who else might be using it.

Most tuners are centered around 440 Hz, but Middle A has been increasing in frequency for many hundreds of years. In Baroque times it was 421, but was not truly even somewhat standardized until the first tuning fork was invented in 1711 at 423.2 Hz. Because they were rare, it wandered around increasing to 432 in modern orchestral times, finally being once again standardized at the commonly accepted 440 Hz...which was encouraged by easy synchronization with 50 and 60Hz AC power.


As for the Schumann Resonance, I've always heard and read it's average value around the Earth as 7.83 Hz. The seventh and eighth harmonics are supposed to be 50 and 60 Hz, the frequencies of the world's AC power grids.


It was reportedly discovered by German technicians placing microphones to record movement in fox-holes during WWI...I'd like to duplicate that experiment. If anyone knows the procedure, I'd love to do it here in Detroit...if only to get an accurate measurement locally of the fundamental tone and any resonance which may agree with it.



To answer that question, OP, yes...there are other tones which harmonize with any pure tone...every pure thing has a resonance point and will vibrate at even divisors and multiples of that exact frequency. I've done frequency sweeps of home entertainment systems where china in another room would vibrate like crazy, at one frequency which would make them move...then multiples and divisions of it which have distinctively different volume levels. Same resonant pieces, pure so there are no internal damping of the energy, but they'd rattle at many frequencies...at various levels but with one that is clearly dominant.


That would be my clearest way for you to analogize resonance frequencies and understand many freqencies traveling 'together'. Did that make any sense?!

If we had a spectral graph of amplitude versus frequency, you'd see a huge spike at 7.83 then smaller ones at the multiples as detailed in the Wiki article, which I've seen confirmed in a few other sources. I've never learned why they are not clean multiples...15.66, 31.32, 62.64...for the 2nd, 4th, and 8th, but it might be due the Earth's atmospheric cavity's internal damping. It IS made of some curiously different densities of water alone! That friction or resistance alone might dampen the harmonics of the fundamental Schumann frequency.


Cheers
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Yes it makes sense what you describe in your post.

What would you say a frequency cycling at 225Hz and 410Hz would be?
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Well, they would be TWO frequencies, then. Heh.

And probably pretty damned annoying.


If they were played together, they'd be two-thirds of a chord. Perhaps someone more musical than me can tell us what notes these are, and what chord they are implying before their third arrives.


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You might want to consider this...from September, 2005:

For thousands of years the Schumann Resonance or pulse (heartbeat) of Earth has been 7.83 cycles per second, The military have used this as a very reliable reference. However, since 1980 this resonance has been slowly rising. It is now over 12 cycles per second! This mean there is the equalivant of less than 16 hours per day instead of the old 24 hours."

The resonance of Earth (Schumann Resonance) has been 7.8Hz for thousands of years.

Since 1980 it has risen to over 12Hz.

This means that 16 hours now equate to a 24 hour day.

Time appears to be speeding up! .............

The first spectral representation of this phenomenon was prepared by Balser and Wagner in 1960. Much of the research in the last 20 years has been conducted by the Department of the Navy who investigate Extremely Low Frequency communication with submarines.

More at:

[link to www.crystalinks.com]
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Do we have independent confirmation about the rising of this frequency?

IF time is compressing, then the SAME vibration would measure higher.

Hz is Hertz, the name for a measurement of cycles of frequency PER SECOND.

1 cycle in one second equals ONE Hertz. 1 Hz.

If time were compressed at a 16/24 ratio, as this information suggests (without again any independent varification), then most certainly the SAME Earth heartbeat would measure 11.75 Hz.


So, you've dropped in a curious mobius conundrum, we might be in the same loop but on the opposite sides!


I feel quite strongly that flow of time has been speeding up. Since the clocks we use are all tied to the flow, they have sped up, too.


BUT, I would not say it is caused by the Schumann Resonance being energized and otherwise affected by military use, though. I believe they had to STOP using the grids in the UP of Michigan and northern Wisconsin because this frequency started changing...but am not sure it changed BECAUSE they were using it.



From what I understand, the limiting factor of this phenomena is the gap between the surface of the planet and a denser layer of atmosphere...that volume determines the frequency (at a 'standard' static value of time, of course). So the frequency wouldn't change as long as that denser layer of atmosphere didn't move closer or further from the surface...although as I said earlier, its harmonics might be affected by the internal damping OF that gap, from the three blatant forms/densities of water in it alone!


Cheers
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You might want to consider this...from September, 2005:

For thousands of years the Schumann Resonance or pulse (heartbeat) of Earth has been 7.83 cycles per second, The military have used this as a very reliable reference. However, since 1980 this resonance has been slowly rising. It is now over 12 cycles per second! This mean there is the equalivant of less than 16 hours per day instead of the old 24 hours."

The resonance of Earth (Schumann Resonance) has been 7.8Hz for thousands of years.

Since 1980 it has risen to over 12Hz.

This means that 16 hours now equate to a 24 hour day.

Time appears to be speeding up! .............

The first spectral representation of this phenomenon was prepared by Balser and Wagner in 1960. Much of the research in the last 20 years has been conducted by the Department of the Navy who investigate Extremely Low Frequency communication with submarines.

More at:

[link to www.crystalinks.com]
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Yes. This is where I am getting at with this thread. From what I have researched the Schumann Resonance was at like 11 in the 80's but it has been recently discovered that it is rising as you say. Up to 12Hz in 2006. I also read that at 13 Hz the Earth would stop rotating. That is the understanding I got from the research. Well according to the Schumann Resonance I am receiving today it appears to have sped up beyond that of the 13 Cycles per minute. This is what has me puzzled. Has it sped up so much so? Is it an artificial signal being fed to speed up the natural Resonance? And if it is the Schumann Resonance that has sped up so much then what could the effects on Earth be?

I know the Schumann resonance cycles at 7.83 Hz. The reason I put this thread up was to verify this. Upon verification I was gonna add the fact that it has sped up dramatically now as we speak and i would like to know what the effects will be. Thanks Poster.

I had also read somewhere else that time is actually speeding up. That we are on our way to our event horizon. Back to where it all began to start all over again. What do you know of this?
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Do we have independent confirmation about the rising of this frequency?

IF time is compressing, then the SAME vibration would measure higher.

Hz is Hertz, the name for a measurement of cycles of frequency PER SECOND.

1 cycle in one second equals ONE Hertz. 1 Hz.

If time were compressed at a 16/24 ratio, as this information suggests (without again any independent varification), then most certainly the SAME Earth heartbeat would measure 11.75 Hz.


So, you've dropped in a curious mobius conundrum, we might be in the same loop but on the opposite sides!


I feel quite strongly that flow of time has been speeding up. Since the clocks we use are all tied to the flow, they have sped up, too.


BUT, I would not say it is caused by the Schumann Resonance being energized and otherwise affected by military use, though. I believe they had to STOP using the grids in the UP of Michigan and northern Wisconsin because this frequency started changing...but am not sure it changed BECAUSE they were using it.



From what I understand, the limiting factor of this phenomena is the gap between the surface of the planet and a denser layer of atmosphere...that volume determines the frequency (at a 'standard' static value of time, of course). So the frequency wouldn't change as long as that denser layer of atmosphere didn't move closer or further from the surface...although as I said earlier, its harmonics might be affected by the internal damping OF that gap, from the three blatant forms/densities of water in it alone!


Cheers
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What would you say if I told you I see the Schumann Resonance at 50Hz?
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I would say you have extraordinary eyes.

Most of us don't see EM waves until roughly 430 THz.

I'm working on a theory that it is all the same stuff, just different frequencies. Ears pick up some things, skin/touch picks up lower, Eyes pick up higher...but it is ALL the same spectrum of EM energy.


Cheers
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It's 7.83Hz

Not sure what the other guy is talking about.
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shit, I thought he was talking about the alt. tuning frequency for instruments.
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that was my first thought to, lol.
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You might want to consider this...from September, 2005:

For thousands of years the Schumann Resonance or pulse (heartbeat) of Earth has been 7.83 cycles per second, The military have used this as a very reliable reference. However, since 1980 this resonance has been slowly rising. It is now over 12 cycles per second! This mean there is the equalivant of less than 16 hours per day instead of the old 24 hours."

The resonance of Earth (Schumann Resonance) has been 7.8Hz for thousands of years.

Since 1980 it has risen to over 12Hz.

This means that 16 hours now equate to a 24 hour day.

Time appears to be speeding up! .............

The first spectral representation of this phenomenon was prepared by Balser and Wagner in 1960. Much of the research in the last 20 years has been conducted by the Department of the Navy who investigate Extremely Low Frequency communication with submarines.

More at:

[link to www.crystalinks.com]
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WOW damned 8 hours faster! now wonder i'm so tired!!
and time really does seem to have been going faster the last several years but i thought it was just me.
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I would say you have extraordinary eyes.

Most of us don't see EM waves until roughly 430 THz.

I'm working on a theory that it is all the same stuff, just different frequencies. Ears pick up some things, skin/touch picks up lower, Eyes pick up higher...but it is ALL the same spectrum of EM energy.


Cheers
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I don't mean pick them up literally. I mean seeing them on Spectrograph.
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LOL, I know. I's just making some fun.



What do you use to sense them? What do you use to display the spectrum...I haven't seen inexpensive equipment that'll measure below 20Hz.


As I said, from earlier information that I hope was correct...the seventh and eighth harmonics are exactly 50 and 60 Hz, the frequency the European and North American AC grids sing at...you're going to get interference at both frequencies unless you've some Faraday-shielded pyramid of a house or studio.



Cheers

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beat me to it cool2

yes i have read that it has been increasing

ties in with the "Quickening"

You might want to consider this...from September, 2005:

For thousands of years the Schumann Resonance or pulse (heartbeat) of Earth has been 7.83 cycles per second, The military have used this as a very reliable reference. However, since 1980 this resonance has been slowly rising. It is now over 12 cycles per second! This mean there is the equalivant of less than 16 hours per day instead of the old 24 hours."

The resonance of Earth (Schumann Resonance) has been 7.8Hz for thousands of years.

Since 1980 it has risen to over 12Hz.

This means that 16 hours now equate to a 24 hour day.

Time appears to be speeding up! .............

The first spectral representation of this phenomenon was prepared by Balser and Wagner in 1960. Much of the research in the last 20 years has been conducted by the Department of the Navy who investigate Extremely Low Frequency communication with submarines.

More at:

[link to www.crystalinks.com]
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