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I Live In The City of the Future. Welcome To Pre Armageddon

 
NiNzrez  (OP)

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You packing heat OP?
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not yet
working on getting the money up for a permit
but i do practice in other hand to hand combat weapons
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I am somewhat of an idealist. I want to ask what the best thing to do in this situation would be. I want to say that there is an opportunity here somewhere because in everything there is a polarity. I would first ask all the cops that still live there if they would volunteer to help bring the city to a safer level. These people would be paid in points that they could exchange for food, clothing, supplies etc in stores that also volunteered to accept them. This would probably mostly be local stores and shops. I would try to have a town meeting where we got everyone together and decided what they needed. Most would want food, clothes, good school, and things to do in the town etc. I would then get all the volunteers I could to start growing food that would be rationed to the people that volunteered in the garden. I would ask each and every person what they were willing to do to contribute. Perhaps some would teach, some would build, some would farm, some would repair etc on and on. I would go to the thugs and ask them what they want. Why do they do this. What is their purpose in thugging? I would try to help them get their needs met and give them some suggestions of what to do to fill up their time. I know that they would still thug if they wanted drugs but I think if they helped people or started to farm or build, help some one, volunteer then they might begin to feel something good inside ..and that there is a way to live, contribute, build up a life that is fulfilling. I cannot go into great detail here. There are many details to fill in the spaces here but I know that humans are capable of anything. Being an idealist I see it as a perfect opportunity to bring everyone together to make their own unique town that could make history.
 Quoting: Idealist Orphan 1308455


Michigan Militia Chapters need to start doing their job. Is their Militia in Michigan?
NiNzrez  (OP)

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Shit girl, I live outside of detroit and had no idea how rough Flint has gotten. On a side-note, ever go to City Club in the D? You look like you'd enjoy :)
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it's worse than i can write about haha
and yup
city and necto now and then :)
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Flint might be bad, but us in Michigan have all we need for the coming years. Lots of fresh water, wildlife, wild food, and tons of people with good aim and lots of guns.

I love Michigan, it's a great place.
 Quoting: Motion & Rest

I agree, anything North of a east to west line at about Saginaw, until the Federal Government leeches make their way South.

I think we should all start running ads in Newspapers, and billboards that the California progressives have taken over Austin, TX, and there is free stuff for the masses.

Warm weather, plenty of bird, and liberals to soothe their every need at the taxpayer expense.
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Shit girl, I live outside of detroit and had no idea how rough Flint has gotten. On a side-note, ever go to City Club in the D? You look like you'd enjoy :)
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it's worse than i can write about haha
and yup
city and necto now and then :)
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I was in Flint like 5 years ago and it looked bad then.
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op you can come live with me.
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I live in Flint MI. now renamed by the public "Murdertown, U.S.A" or "Little Baghdad"
It is a war zone here
*Population: 102,000
*Police on duty at any given time: 6
*The police station is only open from 2pm-5-pm, closed holidays, weekends and evenings.
*It takes police anywhere from 8hrs to 4 days to respond to your 911 call... and your lucky to get a response at all.
*The murder rate here is worse than those in Newark and St. Louis and New Orleans. It’s even worse than Baghdad’s.
*Flint is so broke that the city can not even afford simple basic safety.
*If you live here you need to be in post Armageddon survival mode at all times, or fall prey to the statistics that will be posted for the 2011 year.

It is so bad, that a reporter for the New York Times came here to do a report on the situation in Flint
.
Here is what he wrote about his experience.
From the article:
A sign taped to the entrance of police headquarters says it all: “Closed weekends and holidays.” Every weekday, the doors are locked at dusk.

It’s not that the cops here are scared; it’s just that they’re outmanned, outgunned and flat broke.

After the door is unlocked and I enter police headquarters, it is easy to see why. There are only six patrolmen on duty for a Saturday night. So broke is Flint that the city laid off two-thirds of its police force in the last three years. The front desk looks like a dusty museum piece.

We leave headquarters and head out into the night. Howe turns up the heat in his Chevy cruiser and switches on the computer.

“That’s something,” I say hopefully. “Some squad cars in Detroit don’t even have computers.”

“Hold on a sec,” he says. “Let it warm up.”

When it does, I see that there are more than 12 runs stacked up, including a kidnapping call that is more than six hours old. A home-invader call is two hours old. A “man with a gun” call is 90-minutes old.

“Sometimes, we don’t get to a call for two days,” he says. Last fall, an elderly couple called after being held up at gunpoint in their driveway. The police arrived on the scene five hours later.

READ FULL STORY HERE: [link to www.nytimes.com]

Here is a running list of current crimes:
[link to topics.mlive.com]

a collapsing economy, highest unemployment of all time, all time high home foreclosures, people here are left in depression and desperation on how to survive. This has thrown this city into a state of chaos and survival.





Coming to your town soon.. courtesy of the American Government
 Quoting: NiNzrez


And this is why I am "hoping" that the powers can keep the remainder of the economy going as long as possible. The alternative is much more dire. The sheeps will be on a rampage. Hold on until the sun does enough damage to civilization that it wipes out the usless eaters.
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This kind of city should not exist in the most rich country of the world.
Something is very wrong when you spend billions in arms and do not help this people.

You have to healing yourself
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It's all part of the NWO plan.It is reality.We are very close to becoming a 3rd world nation.Order ab Chaos.
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this is what it is all about isn't it....

how does one fix such a mess....

well, of course one could never fix such a mess....

only two could begin to repair such decay....


2 = 0
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OP , if you can you should leave !


Like i said in another thread .
The police have no interest in stopping crime .
NO CRIME = NO POLICE = NO JOB .


Take carehf
 Quoting: GhostViking


i wish i did have the means to move me and my family out of here
right now we spend all we make on surviving
we have adapted and learned to survive here
we now know how to act, walk, talk when in public
where to avoid, where we can and can not go, how to secure our home. On GLP there is so much talk about how to prepare for survival post doom, but we are already partially living this way
 Quoting: NiNzrez


It breaks my heart that you, your family and the people in your area are living in that type of situation. You are all in my prayers.

I live in a fairly rural area but what I find really strange about the lack (near non-existence) of police in your area is that the amount of police presence here has increased DRAMATICALLY.

Peace be with you!
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everything is going according to plan

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Ding ding ding.

The next generation will look at you like you are crazy for not accepting the local warlord.
NiNzrez  (OP)

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"Woman assaulted by niece Thursday night in Flint

The two were arguing at the victim's home on Sterling Street near Pasadena Avenue around 10 p.m., police said. The victim's niece then began punching her in the face."

People gone wild.
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this one blew me away
Shots fired outside Flint funeral home during services for homicide victims
[link to www.mlive.com]
or
Man snatches wallet after knocking on Flint door and asking victim for food
[link to www.mlive.com]
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As I said; depending on your family's history and work - I may be able to help find you guys jobs in Canada.

We are much friendlier up here!
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The Michael Moore film "Roger and Me" documented Flint's downfall as a result of General Motors closing up shop in the 1980s. Parts of it were poignant and other parts were hilarious. A very well-made film.
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -- Arthur Schopenhauer
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Hi Nin I am in the same boat, I am vegas in what is considered a very good area. A year and a half our home was robbed it took the cops an hour to show up and when they did they sent a officer in training that was not a cop yet because all the real cops were out doing the big crimes. Robberies are so high here they do not even care. I talked to a real estate agent who recently said that my area is about to blow up because the housing prices keep going down and down we are 200,000 under water for our home and still sinking. My neighbors in a gated community a couple weeks ago were robbed and tied up by gun point. Just a few blocks away from my gym a man was hired to do some work on a car and was working on the car when a kid just came up and shot him in the driveway and killed him. Now his teenage son does not have a father. I have become phobic to drive because people are letting there animals run wild. I have almost hit 2 stray dogs that were let loose in a busy intersection. No one seems to care or are concerned except myself about the animals that are loose. Our society is completly collapsing from what I see. I cant wait to get out of here. I met a elderly lady who had robbers get into her backyard and beat her dog and then broke through her french doors and came after her with an ax. She was abl to give a good description of them to the police but they said that the men could come back and kill her since she knows what they look like so they just gave their keys back to the bank and moved. Things are getting crazy we have to always be on alert here and suspicious of everyone its getting so old.
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Who is John Galt?

I'm rereading Ayn Rand's "novel" Atlas Shrugged, written in 1957, and like George Orwell's 1984, written in 1950, it is hardly fiction any more.

OP's report on Flint MI is right out of Atlas Shrugged, an America in total decline after "the Looters" have had their day and regulated society into Third World status.

I spent 24 hr in Flint when my Toyota truck broke down near there in 1978. Flint had one of 5 Toyota dealerships in MI and they had to hand craft a part for me, which was done cheerfully and affordably. My husband and I had a fine time hanging out in a local tavern, shooting pool and enjoying the pickled eggs and ring bologna, never dreaming it would come to this.

God Bless Us Every One.
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Everyody there should be packing heat. Try to rob a house in AR or SD, see what happens when all your neighbors have guns to protect your house with you. Cops can't do it all, and with ultimate power only corrupts. you need to wake up and start a neighbor hood watch in every neighbor hood that's armed to the teeth. Otherwise, you'll win my darwin award, but stop complaining!! I have a hand gun, rifle, and 70lb compound bow. Come banging through my door at night and you won't make it out.
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We are witnessing the fall of America, plain and simple.

Hang on, its going to be a bumpy ride.








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In the late 1960s and 1970s, a wave of arson overtook the South Bronx. Arson became popular because landlords would collect the insurance money for their buildings. As a result, many streets were entirely burnt out. By the 1990s, nearly half of all the buildings in the affected neighborhoods were destroyed. The Bronx was completely neglected by the City of New York, and many residents complained that the NYPD did little to fight crime in their districts. This period of misery, lawlessness and chaos made the South Bronx a nationwide symbol of the dark side of the American Dream. During a Yankees Game of the 1977 World Series, the camera showed a night panorama of Yankee Stadium and, maybe half a mile away, an anonymous building on fire. Millions of viewers watched the skyline engulfed in flames as sports commentator Howard Cosell shouted, “Ladies and gentlemen, the Bronx is burning.” In the same year, Jimmy Carter made a visit to Charlotte Street, which was laid to waste and looked like it had been bombed out in a war.


This is all purposely done by TPTB. It is a scheme of theirs. There is a name for it but i forgot. They run down neighborhoods to lower their value. Then they buy all the land dirt cheap, start paying the local officials to get the area cleaned out. They then start building these rich neighborhoods for the elite so as to keep the minorities out cause they can't afford it. Big money making scheme they have.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


^^^This is what they do. If any one here knows the name given to this scheme i would greatly appreciate it. I forgot it. Thanks
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


It used to be called "blockbusting" -- think that was the same thing, although in the 60s it was used to lower property values so a real estate consortium could buy all the little properties for nothing and put a huge building in their place. The old Czech communities in the far-east 70s of Manhattan were turned into giant residential structures that way.
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you're right about the Gov being hte problem though, if they would just give food an clothing and not money to people without a job, then they would not be paid to not work. we should FEED the poor, not PAY the poor.

Too bad society has gone so far from the scriptures that it is coming back to kill them all. Went from a repulic to a democracy... Mob rule. Everyman doing whatever is right in his own eyes.
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OP , if you can you should leave !


Like i said in another thread .
The police have no interest in stopping crime .
NO CRIME = NO POLICE = NO JOB .


Take carehf
 Quoting: GhostViking


i wish i did have the means to move me and my family out of here
right now we spend all we make on surviving
we have adapted and learned to survive here
we now know how to act, walk, talk when in public
where to avoid, where we can and can not go, how to secure our home. On GLP there is so much talk about how to prepare for survival post doom, but we are already partially living this way

 Quoting: NiNzrez


Whew, this made me think of the posts a couple years ago by a young guy from Argentina who was explaining how to cope with total economic collapse, which he had just lived through. There were similar reports from those who had survived the collapse of the Soviet Union. Never expected to hear such things from MI.
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everything is going according to plan

israel keeps getting american dollars while america rots

america is being looted by a certain race and most people on GLP think Israel is oh so wonderful
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You're a fucking tard.

This country spent more $$ in rebuilding mosques in the middle east last year than it's spent on Israeli aid in the past 5 years.

On topic: Stay safe NiN, if you guys need $ to buy a gun let me know and I can send some $ to help with the purchase.
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everything is going according to plan

israel keeps getting american dollars while america rots

america is being looted by a certain race and most people on GLP think Israel is oh so wonderful
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You're a fucking tard.

This country spent more $$ in rebuilding mosques in the middle east last year than it's spent on Israeli aid in the past 5 years.

On topic: Stay safe NiN, if you guys need $ to buy a gun let me know and I can send some $ to help with the purchase.
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Forgot to sign in. ^^^
MENE, MENE, TEKAL, UPHARSIN
NiNzrez  (OP)

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OP , if you can you should leave !


Like i said in another thread .
The police have no interest in stopping crime .
NO CRIME = NO POLICE = NO JOB .


Take carehf
 Quoting: GhostViking


i wish i did have the means to move me and my family out of here
right now we spend all we make on surviving
we have adapted and learned to survive here
we now know how to act, walk, talk when in public
where to avoid, where we can and can not go, how to secure our home. On GLP there is so much talk about how to prepare for survival post doom, but we are already partially living this way
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Get yourself what is called a Police Lock. We used to use them in NYC back in those days. It is an iron rod that connects to the floor and connects to the door. Completely securing you over night. Not even SWAT could knock it down with a battery ram.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


i have deck rivets mounted into the frame of the house wall and steel hinges on them that i put a long solid steel 2X4 through
that on top of the dead bolt and regular door lock
they are all locked each and every time when entering my home
we never leave the door unlocked
you would have to knock down the entire wall to get through it :)
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I am somewhat of an idealist. I want to ask what the best thing to do in this situation would be. I want to say that there is an opportunity here somewhere because in everything there is a polarity. I would first ask all the cops that still live there if they would volunteer to help bring the city to a safer level. These people would be paid in points that they could exchange for food, clothing, supplies etc in stores that also volunteered to accept them. This would probably mostly be local stores and shops. I would try to have a town meeting where we got everyone together and decided what they needed. Most would want food, clothes, good school, and things to do in the town etc. I would then get all the volunteers I could to start growing food that would be rationed to the people that volunteered in the garden. I would ask each and every person what they were willing to do to contribute. Perhaps some would teach, some would build, some would farm, some would repair etc on and on. I would go to the thugs and ask them what they want. Why do they do this. What is their purpose in thugging? I would try to help them get their needs met and give them some suggestions of what to do to fill up their time. I know that they would still thug if they wanted drugs but I think if they helped people or started to farm or build, help some one, volunteer then they might begin to feel something good inside ..and that there is a way to live, contribute, build up a life that is fulfilling. I cannot go into great detail here. There are many details to fill in the spaces here but I know that humans are capable of anything. Being an idealist I see it as a perfect opportunity to bring everyone together to make their own unique town that could make history.
 Quoting: Idealist Orphan 1308455


Michigan Militia Chapters need to start doing their job. Is their Militia in Michigan?
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


Michigans militia is one of the most feared militias by the gov
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I saw the thread title and thought detroit... close enough
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Wow, that's crazy OP.

Hope you and you're family remain safe. And +1 for that relocate suggestion!
NiNzrez  (OP)

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Everyody there should be packing heat. Try to rob a house in AR or SD, see what happens when all your neighbors have guns to protect your house with you. Cops can't do it all, and with ultimate power only corrupts. you need to wake up and start a neighbor hood watch in every neighbor hood that's armed to the teeth. Otherwise, you'll win my darwin award, but stop complaining!! I have a hand gun, rifle, and 70lb compound bow. Come banging through my door at night and you won't make it out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 493358


Action steps:

1. Go out and arm yourself.

2. Talk with neighbors about defending eachother in need, set up a neighbor hood watch system.

3. Defend yourself and neighbors, have neighbors on speed dial, not 911.

4. Be smart. Think carefully about where you are and how you can protect self and loved ones in every situation. Night is always your most vulnerable time, crooks know that, you should too.

5. do like it, GET OUT OF THE CITY!!! people were never ment to live that jamed together, it can't work. Move north in MI or anywhere in the plain states to get away from city punks and high crime. SD and ND had the lowest umemployment in the nation, try moving there... unless you're a non-working leech that the rest of us pay for... then stay in the city unarmed. ;)





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