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LUCIA REVEALS THE THIRD SECRET OF FATIMA Please read !!!!!!! I just received this and now you can see it yourself.

 
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However, do not support LTTW as a thanks to me, as I agree with Padraig's opinion regarding those prophecies.
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RE: "D. Puntalangit"
If it wasn't for me, I figure that he would have relinquished the prophetic writings in 2011.

Thus I shoulder half the blame for the promotion of his prophecies.

I could tell from his blog (under his real identity) that he did not appreciate my unwillingness to come to his defense when he was personally attacked on the other forum. The reason was simple: I was concerned that he may have lied several times in the past online, thus I wanted to wait for his prophecies to be fulfilled before defending him.


I could also see that he was critical of me when I refrained from focusing on the teachings of Christ with specificity. I also believe that he highly disagreed with my advice about praying while watching television, or about something which I stated regarding prayers.


I did not wish YET to vigorously and specifically promote the teachings of Christ if A) sin continued to drag me down(succumbing to easy access of internet porn) B) I was still QUITE UNSURE whether or not I could be a worthy preacher C) the skeptic in me was not absolutely confident in the end-times reality being imminent despite certain etchings on the wall.


Since the problems of A, B, and C, were not removed, I refused to do much of anything but wait for the decisive moment of change.


If I did remove the problems of A, B, and C. I would have repeated the following messages tirelessly without fear:

"The things that every Christian is obligated to do to bring life to the spirit, to bring joy to Heaven, and to bring peace on earth, are to -
1. love God with one's entire heart, mind, and soul by doing the following:
2. when insulted or attacked or when thy enemy is served up by the memory, at the moment the ego flares in reaction to the insult...pray for the other person for a few minutes or for a little while.
3. judging others - We judge people on appearances, we judge people on their behaviors, we judge people on their past, we judge people on what others enjoy, on what others have or don't have. At the moment the ego seeks to judge another, rebel against the judgement by speaking something contrary with the inside voice or speaking something nice about the other person (with the internal voice or vocally to them.) It's not so easy to compliment somebody that bothers you because your judgement stands in the way.
When somebody says something stupid that bothers you, you could say in your mind "it's ok, this person has a right to say stupid things, God still loves them." or against the self-righteous judgement against a rich person: "It's alright for this person to be rich and arrogant my only concern is to send them brotherly love."

4. working vigorously towards overcoming the impulse to yell at another when angered. (It only takes one success to gain momentum. The first success is the hardest. And it is only a 5 or 10 minute fast of the tongue before the urge to yell completely subsides. The second success still requires a force of will power, but less. The fourth and fifth successes in a short period of time will probably come surprisingly easy.
6. placing oneself at the service of others, as much as possible, on a daily basis.
7. pray, pray, pray
8. working vigorously towards overcoming the impulse to complain.
9. giving abundantly to those in need.
10. offer fasts and penance for the conversion of others.
10. abandoning self pride
11. choosing the option of humility and selflessness (choose the back seat, let others go first, let others drive past, etc),
12. giving up premarital sex and internet porn (etc)
13. overcoming slavery to the ego in all it's manifestations.
14. embracing the gift of divine forgiveness for the repentant.
15. "_"


I have done all of the above during the periods of success. However, one particular sin interferes greatly, and almost every time seems to bring the entire foundation to the ground. And it can be quite a while sometimes, before I could manage to return again towards loving God with direction and purpose to rebuild anew the spiritual foundations.


I AM NOT WORTHY TO BE THIS PREACHER, someone else perhaps Pope Francis will do it, My soul is sullied by succumbing to viewing, at every moment of failure, internet porn involving lesbians doing unwholesome things. Truth is now told.


For me, once that unseemly internet porn sin is committed, the house crumbles and my willpower withers, and the darkness gains it's foothold. Then I start to bemoan my repeated failures and use it as an excuse to postpone the returning to God and the banishment of sin.

I took too long, I failed, and failed big.


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"D. Puntalangit's" prophecies did not come true, the signs indicated to me they should have certainly come true by now. I suspect that he lied or followed me into a shared delusion.

The "coincidence" connected to Duke and myself, at the time were something that could not be ignored. So the delusion ought to be forgiven.

But I must also follow the logic produced from the "coincidences." And must consider myself sunk in the same boat as "Duke." Thus I must also reject having any major future role in the Church.

If (don't hold your breath) it miraculously turned out that his prophecies were true, he has full authority, at that time to cast me completely aside and take over his purported messages ...and has the right to correct me loudly and publicly of any of my errors.



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I do not support my own dreams.

I have not seen fulfillment of those dreams.

(Maybe one came true about the negative effects of what I did -- if "dead" meant spiritually dead rather than physically dead as I initially believed)

If the dreamer failed to please Heaven in the time allotted, the dreams can surely lose their prophetic attributes as the consequence. Instead, reality can enter an alternate prophetic timeline with completely different surprise developments.

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My observations regarding Fatima, La Salette, etc are still very accurate, in my opinion. These are two or three entirely separate area's of the prophetic.


I could also reveal a thrilling and scary bit of information about recent partial fulfillment, if I only knew 100% that Duke's prophecies were a lie from an admission of guilt. The difference is in the two interpretations. If interpretation one is excluded from being true(with Duke's prophecy being a lie), I would no longer be concerned by other people's inability to make the correct interpretation, and I could reveal the observation.
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(Maybe one came true about the negative effects of what I did -- if "dead" meant spiritually dead rather than physically dead as I initially believed)
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It was about the death of "exactly 10"
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For later review of this: [link to www.vatican.va]
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I will mention it one last time for this period.

The sspx website states this: "Tout ce que je vous dis là arrivera dans l'autre siècle, [au] plus tard aux deux millle ans."


A closer examination of the La Salette secret at: [link to www.sspxasia.com]
reveals that the word "[au]" (between the words "siecle" and "plus") is nowhere to be found in the original text. In fact the two words are so close together there is no room for the word "au" to fit.

The word "au" has been added by the sspx website, and everyone seems to have blindly quoted that error across the net.


Without the word "au" present it means that the La Salette secret actually states: "All that I am saying to you arrives in the other century more late(after/later than) the two thousandth year."

The meaning of each word:
"Tout(All) ce que(that) je(I) vous(to you) dis(speak) là arrivera(arrives) dans(in) l'autre(the other) siècle(century), plus(more) tard(late) aux(than/to) deux(two) millle(thousand) ans(years)."


Just French: "Tout ce que je vous dis là arrivera dans l'autre siècle, plus tard aux deux millle ans."



So it refers to the 21st century (the century after the year 2000. Not to the 20th century. It states "plus" which means MORE "tard" which means "late". "plus tard" / "More late" is obviously translated into "later than" the year 2000.


If you don't believe me, go see for yourself:
[link to www.sspxasia.com]
Save the image of the La Salette text from the above link to your computer (place the cursor over the image and hit the right button of your mouse(or pad) to see the save image option). Fetch the image off your pc and zoom in close. The word "plus" is on the 4th last line. (not counting the line at the bottom that only has "Grenoble") The word "plus" is the very last word on that line. The word "siecle" is immediately before it. The two words are so close together they appear as one word. "Au" is nowhere to be found between them. It is not "siecle au plus tard"(century no more late/prior to the year 2000) it is actually "siecle plus tard"(century more late than/after the year 2000)




Also, I feel it is a big mistake to repeat what I did and focus too much attention to any particular year such as the 100th anniversary. And I still believe the Third Secret provided a clue as to location of the start of world war 3 for the Balkans. Although a strong case can be made that war first breaks out in the Middle East. However, I am not 100% sure about anything future wise.
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This information does nothing but harm me, particularly if certain versions of reality end up being true, but it is very, VERY, VERY IMPORTANT!! AND IT MAY HELP BOLSTER the belief of others, so after prolonged uncertainty I decided to give up the information.


The Fact of the Matter, is that if "Duke" fabricated his message, I could unfortunately be some kind of precursor fulfillment regarding the following prophecy ==>


The St. Francis of Assisi warning:

"A person not canonically elected, during a moment of trouble will be received up to the Papacy, many deaths belong to his errors of "sagacitate" given to others to drink (from his) labors. Then scandals will be multiplied and our religion divided...The sanctity of life from their teachers will be held in derision, therefore not a worthy pastor but a destroyer shall be sent to them by the Lord Jesus Christ."

(the English book published in 1882 does not contain the accurate translation, the above is the English translation from the Latin book published in 1880)


LET'S LOOK AT THE PROPHECY AND WORDS CAREFULLY:

"Aliquis non cononice electus"
"Aliquis(a person) non(not) cononice(canonically) electus(elected),"

"A person not canonically elected." -


I am *not* canonically elected. That itself is not enough of a connection. The key connection between myself and the papacy is this:
It is absolute true that my mother's name is the precise female(but non-English) equivalent of "Petrus(Peter") and it is the truth that my Father's name is the precise equivalent of "Romanus". THEREFORE, a meaningful connection exists between myself and this Assisi prophecy. BUT WAIT THERE IS MORE....


"Aliquis non cononice electus, in articulo tribulationis"
"in" means "at/around the time/during": [link to en.glosbe.com]
"articulo" means "distinct moment" : [link to en.glosbe.com]
"tribulationis" is the "genitive singular of tribulatio": [link to en.glosbe.com]
in which tribulatio means "Distress/Tribulation/Trouble: [link to en.glosbe.com]



Thus "in articulo tribulationis" translates:
A person not canonically elected, "during a distinct moment of distress/tribulation/trouble"



When did the Papacy consider my writings seriously? I do not know precisely, but this much is obvious to me. The Papacy took my insights" seriously sometime during a moment of distress for the Church and the Pope. It was at that time the Papal butler leaked confidential documents leading to an internal investigation that uncovered something quite unsettling to the Pope that is contained in a secret dossier: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk]


FURTHERMORE:

"illius ad Papatum assumptus,"
"A person not canonically elected, during a distinct moment of distress illius ad Papatum assumptus,"


"illius" means "his" and is the "genitive common singular of ille which means "he / it": [link to en.glosbe.com]
"ad" means "at/in the direction of/toward/up to": [link to en.glosbe.com]
"Papatum" means "Papacy"
"assumptus" means "recieved, adopted, accepted": [link to en.wiktionary.org]



Thus, "illius ad Papatum assumptus," translates to:
"A person not canonically elected, during a distinct moment of distress/trouble/tribulation, he at the papacy/toward the Papacy is received/adopted/accepted."


Because of what happened regarding the sex scandal(2010) I believe the Pope became very interested in Fatima and came to discover my writings, without my knowing it until it was too late.

And because of my seeming connection to several possible prophets(D.P.) and (Jos.) and my unique ability to perceive prophetic truths about Fatima and La Salette deeply hidden and various signs I spoke about, the Pope received/accepted my writings(thus received/accepted me) during the distinct moment of distress.



THAT'S NOT ALL:

"multis mortem sui erroris sagacitate propinare molietur."
"multis" is the plural of "multus": [link to en.glosbe.com]
"multus" means "much/a great number: [link to en.glosbe.com]
"mortem" means "death": [link to en.glosbe.com]
"sui" means "belong to his": [link to en.glosbe.com]
"erroris" is the "genitive singular of error": [link to en.glosbe.com]
"error" means "mistake/error": [link to en.glosbe.com]
"sagacitate" is the "ablative singular of sagacitas": [link to en.glosbe.com]
"sagacitas" means "wisdom/keenness of perception/acuteness of the senses/sagacity(sagacity is an English word that is "The quality of being discerning, sound in judgment, and farsighted"/shrewdness(shrewd is "Characterized by keen awareness, sharp intelligence, and often a sense of the practical.): [link to en.glosbe.com]
"propinare" is the "present active infinitive of propīno" : [link to en.glosbe.com]
"propino" means "drink to anyone/give to drink/hand over/make/pledge/yield up" : [link to en.glosbe.com]
"molietur" is the "third-person singular future active indicative of molior": [link to en.glosbe.com]
"molior" means "build/construct/erect/labor/labor at/plan/set in motion/endeavor/strive": [link to en.glosbe.com]





Thus "multis mortem sui erroris sagacitate propinare molietur" translates to:
"A person not canonically elected,
during a distinct moment of distress/trouble/tribulation,
he at the papacy/toward the Papacy is received/adopted/accepted,
many deaths belong to his mistakes/errors of
wisdom/keenness of perception/discernment/soundness of judgement
that is given to anyone to drink by his labors."



I am not canonically elected but I have a personal connection(name of parents) to the Papacy and the prophecies.
I labored at those writings.
I gave those writings for anyone to drink,
I received a sign from heaven to stop posting about Fatima topics.
I was received/accepted by the Papacy because of various insights and connections between the information
The Papacy accepted my writings precisely at a moment of distress for the Church and the Pope.
A huge consequence occurred (first Pope to resign in 600 years), among potentially other big consequences
Spiritual deaths occurred because of my mistakes in discernment.


UNBELIEVABLE.



I assure you, God revealed beforehand that I should not continue posting my insights about Fatima. Now I understand far more clearly.

I posted what happened once. I wrote this on September 15, 2012 (which can be googled):
"Probably you will want to accuse me of lying for the following. But I know that I am not. Roughly two weeks ago (estimating the passage of time is not my strong suit), I was getting the urge to post about Fatima prophecies again. I sat outside pondering the correct thing to do. On the one hand, there is this that and the other reasons for continuing to avoid posting. On the other hand there is this that and the other reasons to resume the threads. I was thinking about the past experiences with the coincidences that seemed to answer my questions and said with my internal voice I would very much like(or want or need) another sign later today to instruct me on the right thing to do regarding a resumption of posting about Fatima. Later that day, while using the computer I did encounter another coincidence that seemed to answer my question clearly. It was an emphatic "NO" do not resume posting significantly about Fatima.
I'm sorry OP, that this answer(coincidence that I have little choice but to assume is God's answer even if it were nothing more than a coincidence) does not agree with your position regarding my lack of posting. If in the future I am to be undercut, accused, or persecuted over it, than so be it." (I posted that September 2012)


It is a fact that in August 2012 or early Sept 2012,
I sincerely asked God for a sign on whether I should continue posting about these Fatima things or not.
Within an hour or two the first time I used the computer after the request, at this forum: redflagdeals.com it showed the number of people viewing the forum was precisely "6,666"

...it was either a shocking coincidence or an unmistakable answer of "NO" that God did not want me to continue to post about the Fatima topics.

Almost every day following I checked to see if "6,666" people were viewing that forum. Did not happen again. Every time the number of viewers was between 5,000 and 10,000.


Why did I fail so pathetically?
- I could not see myself enduring the continued provocations for months, (hello 2012newstart in particular, and others)
- it was too easy to succumbed to writing about something so interesting,
- Despite everything I was also a skeptic. (the skepticism interferes with the heeding of the warning.)
- the psychology regarding forgetfulness
- after making the initial mistake I found myself constantly adding more in the days immediately following, in attempt to regain a feeling of equilibrium with the information recently posted.
- At some point, I said to myself, I've already posted so what's the difference if I post again.



it is clear that I committed great errors even as divine messages warned me against such postings.




"Vitae sanctitas a suis professoribus habebitur in derisum, quare dignum non pastorem, sed exterminatorem mittet illis Dominus Jesus Christus.


"the sanctity(sanctitas) of(a) life(vatae/vita), its(suis) teachers(professoribus) hold(habeitur) in derision(derisum/derisus), therefore(quare) not(non) dignum(worthy) pastorem(pastor), but(sed) a destoyer(exterminatorem) sent/dispatched(mittet/mitto) to them(illis) by the Lord(Dominus) Jesus Christ(Christus)."



"The sanctity of (spiritual) life, its teachers hold in derision, therefore not a worthy pastor, but a destroyer is sent to them by the Lord Jesus Christ."





The English translation of the book was published in 1882, the Latin version which contained more detail came out in 1880.

The book in Latin is titled: S. Francisci Assisiatis Seraphici, Minorum patriarchæ opera omnia
The page: pg 430 / published: 1880
available freely here:
[link to play.google.com (secure)]




As I already stated,
The Fact of the Matter, is that if "Duke" fabricated his message, it seems I could be some kind of precursor part of an EARLY WAVE OF fulfillment (before the actual big time fulfillment) regarding the Assisi warning.



Obviously I did not experience the final fulfillment of that prophecy, but a phase or a chapter that will be followed again by another wave or chapter involving other individuals at some point (possible much further) into the future.





"A person not canonically elected,
during a distinct moment of distress/trouble/tribulation,
he at the Papacy is received/adopted/accepted,
many deaths belong to his mistakes/errors of
wisdom/keenness of perception/discernment/soundness of judgement
that is given to anyone to drink by his labors....The sanctity of (spiritual) life, its teachers hold in derision,
therefore not a worthy pastor, but a destroyer is sent to them by the Lord Jesus Christ."






In Latin, the Assisi warning (pg430):
"Paulo ante mortem convocatis fratribus, de tribulationibus futuris eos admonuit, dicens: Viriliter agite, fratres, confortemini, et sustinete Dominum. Magna tribulationis et afflictionis adesse festinant tempora, in quibus temporaliter et spiritualiter perplexitates et discrimina inundabunt, caritas multorum refrigescet, et superabundabit malorum iniquitas. Daemonum potestas plus solito solvetur, nostrae Religionis et aliarum puritas immaculata deformabitur, in tantum quod vero Summo Pontifici et Ecclesiae Romanae paucissimi ex Christianis vero cordo et caritate perfecta obedient: Aliquis non cononice electus, in articulo tribulationis illius ad Papatum assumptus, multis mortem sui erroris sagacitate propinare molietur. Tune multiplicabuntur scandala, nostra dividetur Religio, plures ex aliis omnino frangentur, eo quod non contradicent, sed consentient errori. Erunt opiniones et schismata tot et tanta in populo, et in religiosis, et in cl rico, qnod nisi abbreviarentur dies illi juxta verbum Evangelicum (si fleri posset) in errorem inducerentur etiam electi, nisi in tanto turbine ex immensa misericordia Dei regerentur. Regula et vita nostra tune a quibusdam acerrime impugnabitur. Supervenient tentationes immensae. Qui tune fuerint probati, accipient coronam vitae, Vae autem illis, qui de sola spe religionis confisi tepescent, non resistent constanter tentationibus, ad probationem electorum permissis. Qui vero spiritu ferventes ex caritate et zelo veritatis adhaeredunt pietati, tanquam inobedientes et schismatici persecutiones et injurias sustinebunt. Nam persequentes eos a malignis spiritibus agitati, magnum esse obsequium Del dicent, tam pestilentes homines interficere et delere de terra. Erit autem tune refugium afflictis Dominus, et salvabit eos, quis speraverunt in eo(5). Et ut suo capiti conformentur, fiducialiter agent, et per mortem, vitam mercantes aeternam, obedire Deo magis quam hominibus eligent: et mortem nolentes consentire falsitati et perfidiae, nullatenus formidabunt. Veritas tune a quibusdam praedicatoribus operietur silentio, ab allis conculcata negabitur. Vitae sanctitas a suis professoribus habebitur in derisum, quare dignum non pastorem, sed exterminatorem mittet illis Dominus Jesus Christus."
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Therefore, Pope Francis should pay me zero attention.
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And the two lightning strikes blatantly revealed, that Pope Benedict should not have reacted to my posts, as it was not the will of God.
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I still believe Pope Francis is the true Pope, if the events happen soon. Based on the John Bosco revelations.
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The magnitude 7.7 quake that happened in my country less than an hour after I posted (Oct 27, 2012) was a reminder to me to obey God's Will. I failed I failed I failed.
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Pope Benedict or Pope Francis?


The revelations of St. John Bosco CLEARLY spoke of not ONE but TWO GOOD POPES!!


- According to St John Bosco, The FIRST Pope DEFENDS THE CHURCH with all his STRENGTH once the crisis arrives: "the Pope STRAINS EVERY MUSCLE to steer his ship between the two columns".

Does Pope Benedict have the spiritual and psychical strength to steer the ship with all his might? How about at the age of 90?


- ALSO: According to John Bosco, the Pope as the "flagship commander" at that time, in fact "summons his captains to a conference" not just once but twice: "the Pope again summons his captains"



That really does not sound like Pope Benedict based on the frail state and the current position he is in. He is unlikely to summon the Bishops and Cardinals as a person retired and "hidden from the world." On the other hand, with Pope Francis....no doubt....


The Pope that summons the Bishops and the Cardinals at the moment of the great crisis, will be the true Pope!!!!!


As for the Assisi prophecy, Pope Francis is in fact canonically elected thus the prophecy is not about him.
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At the moment of the crisis I would love for Pope Benedict to tell the whole truth. In fact, it probably would be his God given duty to clarify the prophetic issues.
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In my whole life, I have never asked others for prayers before. Please pray for me that I may succeed in being obedient to God's will, and not succumb to the darkness.

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I have little problem believing a lukewarm Pope can be converted at the last moment, and become the "Pope that strains every muscle" to defend the Church.

Hope is eternal and it is very possible.


One prophecy (difficult to interpret) may suggest that God grants a miracle involving rays of light for the Pope to witness while among a crowd of priests. It would happen shortly before the big crisis in the Church (from that day forward I would guess that the Pope would be completely transformed by the miracle(if the interpretation is correct in the first place). The miraculous transformation of the Pope would likely cause many enemies to rise in opposition against him.


However, IF in my opinion, Pope Francis ends up promoting certain modern teachings that cause SPIRITUAL DESTRUCTION throughout the world, I will have no choice but to consider him something else. It's not that hard to discern...if you know what teachings are important to God and what teachings are secondary. Jesus condemned the pharisee's for attaching too much importance on cleansing the outside of the cup while neglecting the inside. It's the teachings involving the cleansing of the inside of the cup that will reveal the truth in the long run.


Personally, I believe the Assisi prophecy pertains to an illegitimate FUTURE Pope that is seated in the Vatican shortly **AFTER** the Christian mobs AFTER the government armies(Italian/Russian) come to oust/arrest/kill/hunt-down the true Pope.


The true Pope will be forced to flee for his life. (it will be a moment of truth) At that time the devils will stay inside the Vatican with the support of the government. They will choose a replacement Pope, an uncanonically elected Pope that promotes teachings pleasing to the world promotes teachings that CAUSE SPIRITUAL DESTRUCTION THROUGHOUT THE WORLD.

That will be their remedy to the crisis.

Meanwhile the true Christians, and true Pope will go into the underground Church. By then, the Pope will have revealed the final words of the 3rd Secret (or admit no such extra words exist?).
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One prophecy (difficult to interpret) may suggest that God grants a miracle involving rays of light for the Pope to witness while among a crowd of priests.
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The rays of lights potentially as a personal miracle for the Pope precede the Fatima warning/Garabandal warning.
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Sister Aiello: "Oh!, what grief to see the representative of Christ on earth hated, persecuted, outraged! He, who is the Spiritual Father of the people, the defender of the Faith and of truth, whose face, radiant with light, shines upon the world, is greatly hated. He, who personifies Christ on earth, doing good for all, becomes thus outraged with impunity!"

"the Pope, with his redemptive word, will, in part, save the world."



La Salette:

French: "Le pape sera persecuté de toutes parts: on lui tirera dessus, on voudra le mettre à mort, mais on ne lui pourra rien, le Vicaire de Dieu triomphera encore cette fois." - La Salette


English translation: "The Pope will be persecuted from all parts/sections(of the world): he forces/pushes onward, you/someone/one intend(desire/expect) to put him to death, but you/someone have no authority in the slightest(to do so), the Vicar of God triumphs again this time."



"The(le) Pope(pape) will be(sera) persecuted(persecute) from(de) all(toutes) parts/sections(parts)(of the world): he(on lui) forces/propels(tirera) onwards/upwards(dessus), you/someone/one(on) intend/desire/expect(voudra) him(le) to be put(mettre) to(a) death(morte), but(mais) you/someone (have) not(on ne lui) the power/ability/authority(pourra) in the slightest(rien), the(le) Vicar(Vicaire) of(de) God(Dieu) triumphs(triomphera) again(encore) this(cette) time(fois)."
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Our Universal Mother/Father will never punish, it is not possible, it is entirely of love and peace, it does not even know punishment.
Galactic interlopers who claim Godhood teach nonsense like that, it is a mind control technique like all their other mind control or psychological testing mechanism.

Here is the truth, it is beautiful and wonderful:
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Our Universal Mother/Father will never punish, it is not possible, it is entirely of love and peace, it does not even know punishment.
Galactic interlopers who claim Godhood teach nonsense like that, it is a mind control technique like all their other mind control or psychological testing mechanism.

Here is the truth, it is beautiful and wonderful:
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False
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I have been waiting to find out what the 3rd secret was for a very long time.
And it makes sense.

In the Course In Miracles Jesus says in the Workbook section,

" This is the time of prophecy fulfilled.
Now are all ancient promises upheld and fully kept.
No step remains for time to separate from its accomplishment.
For now we cannot fail. Sit silently and wait upon your Father.
He has willed to come to you when you have recognized it is your will He do so.
And you could have never come this far unless you saw, however dimly, that it is you will."

(You can find the above quote in the Workbook of 'A Course In Miracles'
: "Part II Introduction.")


..........................
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And if you really have worked your way through the Course in Miracles,
then you would realize that this whole Fatima bsflag business makes ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE at all...
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I just noticed this thread had continued for so long and I had to think back to why I started it when I did.

I think it was sent to me as an email, and in the excitement of the moment that I received it I decided to share it, and I'm glad I did because other posters have added very interesting information for all of us to share.

I studied ACIM for nearly 30 years and actually learned to do spiritual healing by applying the principles of healing that are taught in the Course.
I did that for about 11 years too.

The Course says nothing about Fatima, or any other historical event or experience.
But if you check it out you will see that it does state what I posted about "This is the time of prophesy fulfilled. ..."


And it stays totally involved in teaching the requirement of the principles of healing.

But that doesn't make Fatima an unimportant event.

I think the Course doesn't get distracted with worldly events because it wasn't important to inspire the important teaching that it offers.

And it is not for everyone at this time, and neither is anything else for everyone.

Truth is like a diamond, it has many facets, and all of them are true.

And so the Course, which is a wonderful teaching, is for those who are ready for it.

And even I, after all those years of studying the Course, have finally found my next level of spiritual teaching to bring me further.

I found that Jesus actually has a huge web site, and he and the Ascended Hosts are available to us to guide and teach us the rest of the way.

And of course that would make sense only to those who are open to the possibility that it might be true, and would actually check it out to see if they resonate with what Jesus says NOW.
Your heart will let you know if it is true for you.

And if you are ready you will be more amazed and grateful than you ever were before.
I know that I was, and I still am absolutely grateful.

Check it out here if you are adventurous and open to it:

[link to www.askrealjesus.com]

[link to www.ascendedmasteranswers.com]

Enjoy!


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*Nationality*: Portuguese
*Born*: 3-28-1907, Aljustrel , Portugal
*Died*: 2-13-2005 (aged 97)
Convent of Carmelitas
Coimbra, Portugal

*LUCIA REVEALS THE THIRD SECRET OF FATIMA
*
Regardless of whatever Creed or Religion, it is better to be
prepared and be in good terms with GOD,...who created us;
for we never know when we will be leaving this world.....

* *
*LAST SECRET OF FATIMA*

The Church has given permission to reveal to the people the last part
of the message. The Blessed Virgin appeared to three children in Fatima ,
Portugal , in 1917........ this is a proven fact;one of these children was
Lucia, (died 2-13-05).

She was a cloistered nun, and lived in a monastery in Portugal .
Lucia disclosed the message for the first time; to Pope Pius Xll who,
after reading , sealed it and stored it away without making it public.
Later Pope John XXIII read it and, in the same manner as his predecessor,
he kept it out of the public eye because he knew that once revealed;
it would bring desperation and panic to mankind,

But now the time has come, and permission has been granted from Pope John
Paul II to reveal it to the children of God;........ . ........ not to
create panic, but to make God's people aware of this important message
and be prepared.

The Virgin told Lucia:
'Go, my child,
and tell the world what will come to pass during the 1950's - 2000's. Men
are not practicing the Commandments that God has given us. Evil is
governing the world and is harvesting hate and resentment all over. Men
will fabricate mortal weapons that will destroy the world
in minutes!.... .. where half of the human race will be destroyed.
The war will begin against Rome , and there will be conflicts amongst
religious orders...... .....

God will allow all natural phenomena like smoke, hail, cold,
water, fire, floods, earthquakes, winds and inclement weather to slowly
batter the planet.

These happenings will come to pass before the year 2012.!!!!
"For those who don't/won't believe..... . . this is the time.....
Your beloved mother told you:-

..........those lacking charity towards others, in words & deeds and
those who do not love their neighbour like my beloved Son has loved you
all ....... cannot survive! They will wish to have died.

God will punish severely those who do not believe in him, those who
despise him and those who did not have time for him."
'I call upon all of you to come to my son Jesus Christ.
God will help the world, but all of those who do not show fidelity and
loyalty will be destroyed!'

Father Agustin, who lives in Fatima , said that Pope Paul VI
gave him permission to visit Sister Lucia,a cloistered nun (she did not
leave the monastery nor was allowed to receive any visitors). Father
Agustin said that she received him greatly overwhelmed and told him:
'Father, Our Lady is very sad because nobody is interested in her prophecy
of 1917, though the righteous are walking through a narrow path, the
evil ones are walking through an ample road that is leading them straight
to their destruction! Believe me, Father, the punishment will come very
soon. 'Many souls will be lost and many nations will disappear from the
earth.

But, in the middle of all these, if men reflect, pray and practice
sincerity, good deeds, kindness and respect, the world can be
saved....... . .. However, if men persist with evil ways....greed, hatred,
selfish acts, rivalry, and rif, the world will be lost forever!.
The time has come for all to pass on the message of our Blessed Lady to
their families, friends, and to the entire world.



Continue praying, make penitence and sacrifices. We are close to the last
minute of the last day and the catastrophes are near. Due to this, many
that were far from the Church will return to the open arms of the Church of
Jesus
Christ.

The joining of the churches will result in one Holy Catholic and
Apostolic Church; ........ England , Russia , China , Jews, Buddhists,
Muslims, Hindus,Protestants, etc..... All will return believing and
worshipping God our Creator, in his beloved Son and in Blessed Mother
Virgin Mary.'


*WHAT AWAITS US** ???
*Everywhere there will be 'Peace Talks', but punishment will come.
A MAN IN A VERY IMPORTANT POSITION WILL BE ASSASSINATED AND THIS WILL
PROVOKE THE WAR.
A POWERFUL ARMY WILL DOMINATE ALL THROUGH EUROPE AND THE NUCLEAR WAR WILL
COMMENCE.

This war will destroy everything; darkness will fall over us for 72 hours
(3 days) and the one third of humanity that survives this obscurity and
sacrifice, will
commence to live a new era; they will be good people.

On a very cold night, 10 minutes before midnight, A GREAT QUAKE will
shake the earth for 8 hours. This will be the third signal that God Is,
who governs the earth.
The righteous and those who propagate the faith and the message of the
Lady of Fatima is :
*'ONE SHOULD NOT FEAR, DO NOT BE AFRAID'.
*
WHAT TO DO??? : Bow your heads, kneel down and ask God for
forgiveness. Because, only what is good and is not under the power of
evil will survive the catastrophe.
In order for you to prepare and remain alive and safe, I will give you
the following signs:
ANGUISH..... ... AND IN A SHORT PERIOD THE EARTHQUAKE WILL COMMENCE...
THE EARTH WILL SHAKE.....

The shake will be so violent that will move the earth
23 degrees and then it will return it to its normal position.
Then, total and absolute darkness will cover the entire planet....
All the evil spirits will be mingling around and free, doing harm to all
those souls that did not want to listen to this message and those who did
not want to repent.

To the faithful souls, remember to light the blessed candles,
prepare a sacred altar with a crucifix in order to communicate with GOD
and implore for His infinite mercy....
All will be dark; and IN THE SKY A GREAT MYSTIC CROSS
will appear to remind us the price that his beloved Son had to pay for
our redemption.. ...


In the house the only thing that can give light will be the
HOLY CANDLES... Once lit, nothing will put them off until the three days
of darkness are over. Also, you should have holy water that should be
sprinkled abundantly on windows and doors. The Lord will protect the
property of the chosen ones....
Kneel down before the powerful cross of my beloved Son, pray the Rosary
and after each Hail Mary you must pray the following:

'Oh God forgive us our sins, preserve us from the fires of hell, take all
souls to heaven, especially those who are in more need of thy mercy.
Blessed Virgin Mary, protect us, we love you, save us and save the
world'.

Pray 5 Creeds and the Rosary which is the secret to my
immaculate Heart. All those who believe in my words go and take the
message to everyone,

DO NOT FEAR! FEAR NOTHING DURING THE LORD'S GREAT DAY.
Talk to all, now that there is time. Those who keep quiet will be
responsible for all those souls who will perish in ignorance.
All those who pray humbly the rosary will have the protection of heaven.
Those who are bound to die, I will help them die in peace, and they will
be holy when they enter the other world.

I wish all my children to attend mass every first Friday and every first
Saturday of each month; to confess and receive Holy Communion; and in
doing so, save the world from its TOTAL DESTRUCTION. ..!!

When the earth shakes no more, those who still do not believe in our Lord
will perish in a horrible way:-
The wind will bring gas and it will disperse it everywhere, then the sun
will rise.



Maybe you will survive this catastrophe.
Do not forget that God's punishment is holy and
ONCE IT HAS STARTED YOU SHOULD NOT LOOK OUTSIDE, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE
!!!!
GOD DOES NOT WANT ANY OF HIS GOOD CHILDREN TO SEE WHEN HE PUNISHES THE
SINNERS..... ......... ....
All this encompasses with the writings of the Holy
Scriptures.. ....
Read on the New Testament: Lucas 21
- 5:121, 12:19, 20:20,
29:33 Letters of St Paul 3 - 8 - 14 Isaiah 40, 1:5:9.
You must understand that God allows all this to happen. The Pope
and Bishops are now awaiting another message that speaks
about repentance and prayer. Please remember that God's words are not a
threat, .......... but good news.....
Please reproduce these pages and send them to all you know so we all can
have the opportunity to repent and be saved.

We do not know if those receiving this message believe or not in
GOD,....but just think that, if you are receiving this message it is for
a good reason!!.. from God who created us and loves us so much!

Our Creator is giving us the chance to be saved, no matter what religion
or creed we may be. If you don't believe in this message, at least send
it to others, it costs you nothing.
To all those receiving it, they can have the opportunity to judge and
decide for themselves.
Remember, we can avoid a great deal of evil if we practice the
Commandments that Our Loving Father God gave us.... Just 10 simple ways,
that if we all put into practice we can obtain God's pardon.
Amen.

............
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I have spoken personally to the niece of sor Lucia and she told me Sor Lucia allegedly told her that the third secret was ONLy for the knowledge of the Pope and no one else..and that if the Pope ever decided to reveal it it was under his sole responsability as that was not what the Blessed Mother wanted..so she told me..wether this is legit or not is open to opinion
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Hi!hf
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Wake up people! Mary can't communicate with anyone here! Mary is resting in her grave until the resurrection and it's an abomination to claim to communicate with the dead, and THAT alone should be all you need to know to KNOW these apparitions are from the deceiver, SATAN, and not from God! Please people, don't believe these lies.
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Wake up people! Mary can't communicate with anyone here! Mary is resting in her grave until the resurrection and it's an abomination to claim to communicate with the dead, and THAT alone should be all you need to know to KNOW these apparitions are from the deceiver, SATAN, and not from God! Please people, don't believe these lies.
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And as far as upheavals in earth, etc. the bible says all that will happen. Don't be deceived, the Papacy is the antichrist power of the Bible, it can be no other power on earth. Between them and the US, they will work together to usher in the mark of the beast which will usher in the 7 last plagues. When you see a big push for Sunday sacredness (it's happening now) and laws enforcing it, then look out! Don't say you weren't forewarned!
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Bunch of BUNK! She made these predictions in 1917..there was no such word as nuclear weapons back then...allot of this stuff wasnt even thought about in that time and she could not know the names of things not yet invented.
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We will soon find out, won't we?

..........................
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Yeah...there is definitely something going down, and we are headed for the crescendo very soon. Wait until it happens

Something tells me that the whole "2012" thing which was pushed by TPTB, was for a very important reason. Think about "the boy who cried wolf"...they pushed this doom "2012" shit, and then nothing happens. So the end result is that everyone grows complacent, which means that everyone is caught off guard when it does hit.

Complacency = maximum casualties

Truthfully, I would bet the farm that it was 2013 the whole time...TPTB knew this all along
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Bunch of BUNK! She made these predictions in 1917..there was no such word as nuclear weapons back then...allot of this stuff wasnt even thought about in that time and she could not know the names of things not yet invented.
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Uh, from the "what awaits us" onward was obviously the OPs interpretation.
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We will soon find out, won't we?

..........................
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Yeah...there is definitely something going down, and we are headed for the crescendo very soon. Wait until it happens

Something tells me that the whole "2012" thing which was pushed by TPTB, was for a very important reason. Think about "the boy who cried wolf"...they pushed this doom "2012" shit, and then nothing happens. So the end result is that everyone grows complacent, which means that everyone is caught off guard when it does hit.

Complacency = maximum casualties

Truthfully, I would bet the farm that it was 2013 the whole time...TPTB knew this all along
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One of the interesting things about any prophesy, is that it may have been a warning of what is to come, and about when it is to happen.

We should always realize that God gave us FREE-WILL and therefore any number of factors could change 'what seems to be a near certainty to happen at a certain time', into a disaster that we just missed because of the change of consciousness, of the right number of people.

The way I have learned that it happens, is that if the right number of people have a change in consciousness, then that in itself can create the right factors to make the needed help come to help us, and they come from the Higher Spiritual Realms.

Most people are not interested enough to make the effort to change their consciousness, BUT if about 10% of the people actually work on the raising of their consciousness and do the 'work' to make the needed changes happen, then the changes will happen because the beings in the Higher Realms will then do what is needed to correct ALL of the problems which we know we cannot correct by ourselves.

Think about the poisoning of the Pacific and ALL THAT IMPLIES with radiation.

Think of the spraying that has been going on for years, and that toxin has nearly eliminated all of the what was known as 'the common housefly', and other important life-forms.
And it has had its effects on all of us too.
And the poisoned soil, water, air, and the toxic lifestyles we are continually encouraged to accept.

Also think also of the 'elite' who's plans for us will never help us but will always benefit them and damage the rest of us.
But the elite are no match for the Spiritual Help we have available to us, and many of them know that, and will do their 'best' to keep us ignorant of Who we really are and the mighty Help we always have available.


On our own we have no way to clean it up so that it is no longer dangerous, but the beings from the Higher Spiritual levels can easily clean it up.
Remember 'With God all things are possible'.
We call them miracles when they happen, because in the physical material realm we here are presently in, the laws of science say we have our limitations to what can be done in the physical dimension. That is, because it is as far as we have allowed ourselves to understand such things.

But we are really spiritual beings, (although there are many here who are in denial about that FACT) and a part of us is always connected to God, even in those who don't believe in God.

So although the unbeliever's disbelief in God will often prevent them from receiving God's help on an individual basis, they too could benefit from God's help because others who do believe in God's ability to help us have banded together with their minds and made a powerful force by their prayers or decrees and rosaries and invocations which they say daily which will attract the needed help from the Other Side.

THIS CAN ALL BE CHANGED AND CORRECTED, IF ENOUGH OF US WILL DO THE NEEDED PART THAT IS UP TO US TO DO.

And there is guidance available for us to know just what it is that we can do together to make these changes happen.


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In my whole life, I have never asked others for prayers before. Please pray for me that I may succeed in being obedient to God's will, and not succumb to the darkness.

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I will include you in my prayers this night.

I believe you can find a way to connect to the protection that you think you need help for, by taking a look at what is listed on the web site I will give a link for.

I have gotten tremendous help for big problems that seemed to have no solution. Now those problems are gone.

Check it out, and I will also send you what help can reach you from my prayers.


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In my whole life, I have never asked others for prayers before. Please pray for me that I may succeed in being obedient to God's will, and not succumb to the darkness.

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Missed it,..... try again.

Let me try that again and this time I will include the link I said I would give for you..............



I will include you in my prayers this night.

I believe you can find a way to connect to the protection that you think you need help for, by taking a look at what is listed on the web site I will give a link for.

I have gotten tremendous help for big problems that seemed to have no solution. Now those problems are gone.

Check it out, and I will also send you what help can reach you from my prayers.

Here it is:

[link to www.ascendedmasteranswers.com]


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GLP