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Salman Rushdie calls for īMuslim Reformationī

 
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08/11/2005 11:19 PM
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Salman Rushdie calls for īMuslim Reformationī
Salman Rushdie calls for īMuslim Reformationī

Thursday, August 11, 2005; Posted: 2:28 p.m. EDT (18:28 GMT)

LONDON, England (CNN) -- British author Salman Rushdie on Thursday called for a reform movement that would move Islam into the "modern age" to combat jihadists and closed Muslim communities in the West that produce disaffected youths wielding "lethal rucksacks."

In 1989, Rushdie was forced into hiding when the late Iranian Islamic fundamentalist leader Ayatollah Khomeni issued a religious death decree for alleged blasphemy against Islam in Rushdieīs novel "The Satanic Verses."

The Indian-born Rushdie made his statement in an essay published Thursday in The Times of London titled, "Muslims unite! A new Reformation will bring your faith into the modern era."

"What is needed is a move beyond tradition -- nothing less than a reform movement to bring the core concepts of Islam into the modern age, a Muslim Reformation to combat not only the jihadi ideologues but also the dusty, stifling seminaries of the traditionalists, throwing open the windows of the closed communities to let in much-needed fresh air," Rushdie wrote.

Much of the article addresses the positions of Sir Iqbal Sacranie, head of the Muslim Council of Britain.

"It is high time, for starters, that Muslims were able to study the revelation of their religion as an event inside history, not supernaturally above it," Rushdie wrote.

"It would be good to see governments and community leaders inside the Muslim world as well as outside it throwing their weight behind this idea, because creating and sustaining such a reform movement will require, above all, a new educational impetus whose results may take a generation to be felt, a new scholarship to replace the literalist dictates and narrow dogmatisms that plague present-day Muslim thinking," he wrote.

According to Rushdie, Islam comprises millions who are "tolerant" and "civilized" but many others whose viewpoints are "antediluvian, who think of homosexuality as ungodly, who have little time for real freedom of expression, who routinely express anti-Semitic views, and who, in the case of the Muslim Diaspora, are -- it has to be said -- in many ways at odds with the cultures among which they live."

Rushdie pointed to the English city of Leeds -- where police have said three July 7 London suicide bombers grew up -- as a place where "many traditional Muslims lead lives apart, inward-turned lives of near-segregation from the wider population."

The July 7 bombs, on three Underground trains and a double-decker bus, killed 52 commuters as well as four bombers. Itīs thought that the attackers carried their weapons in rucksacks.

"From such defensive, separated worlds some youngsters have indefensibly stepped across a moral line and taken up their lethal rucksacks," Rushdie wrote. "The deeper alienations that lead to terrorism may have their roots in these young menīs objections to events in Iraq or elsewhere, but the closed communities of some traditional Western Muslims are places in which young menīs alienations can easily deepen."

Rushdie wrote that "the insistence within Islam" that the Quran "is the infallible, uncreated word of God renders analytical scholarly discourse all but impossible" and the rigidity "plays right into the hands of the literalist Islamofascists."

"If, however, [the Quran] were seen as a historical document, then it would be legitimate to reinterpret it to suit the new conditions of successive new ages. Laws made in the 7th century could finally give way to the needs of the 21st. The Islamic Reformation has to begin here, with an acceptance that all ideas, even sacred ones, must adapt to altered realities."

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12/08/2005 10:08 AM
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Neat trick. If the Quran is accepted as a historical document then its laws could be imposed without the shadow of "separation of chuch/state".naughty
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08/24/2008 06:57 AM
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Ta hell with Rush-DIE!


Read - for thy sustainer is the most bountiful one, who has taught the use of the pen, taught man what he did not know!
Nay verily man becomes grossly overweening, whenever he believes himself to be self-sufficient: for behold unto thy sustainer all must return.

Quran 96:3-8

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08/24/2008 07:26 AM
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It was hoped that the mass (uncontrolled) immigration of Muslims into the West, would have had a civilising effect on them - leaving them more identified as members of a civil society, than the Ummah, as indeed they were becoming for a time in the seventies and early eighties - however the left found it far more usefull to empower and exploit them as a discontented minority, the Islamisists made strenuous efforts to import hard line preachers, fund, build and control radical mosques, in a deliberate and concerted effort to make sure that the Islamic enclaves in the West would serve as the beachead for the continued invasion.


Rushdie is pissing in the wind if he thinks his call for reformation is going to earn him anything more than more death threats against him.
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08/24/2008 07:43 AM
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It was hoped that the mass (uncontrolled) immigration of Muslims into the West, would have had a civilising effect on them - leaving them more identified as members of a civil society, than the Ummah, as indeed they were becoming for a time in the seventies and early eighties - however the left found it far more usefull to empower and exploit them as a discontented minority, the Islamisists made strenuous efforts to import hard line preachers, fund, build and control radical mosques, in a deliberate and concerted effort to make sure that the Islamic enclaves in the West would serve as the beachead for the continued invasion.


Rushdie is pissing in the wind if he thinks his call for reformation is going to earn him anything more than more death threats against him.
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Have you ever read his book from cover to cover?
Read - for thy sustainer is the most bountiful one, who has taught the use of the pen, taught man what he did not know!
Nay verily man becomes grossly overweening, whenever he believes himself to be self-sufficient: for behold unto thy sustainer all must return.

Quran 96:3-8

[link to www.islamicity.com]
__________
"Investors must look at this situation as a portfolio opportunity. If you have some extra land (condo developers and house flippers, listen closely), grow a vegetable garden, if you are ambitious, raise some sheep and cows, they will come in handy".
__________
How we got here: [link to www.hundredyearlie.com]
Cure: [link to www.youtube.com]
__________
Plasma aliens: [link to www.plasmametaphysics.com]
__________
Were your ancestors pedophiles? [link to www.youtube.com]
__________
[link to www.terrorism-illuminati.com]
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08/24/2008 08:35 AM
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08/24/2008 08:47 AM
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Ta hell with Rush-DIE!

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Finally showing your true colors? Too bad for you - Salman Rushdie is one of the last hopes for your murderous, backward, infantile, barbaric "faith"..

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08/24/2008 08:56 AM
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Salman Rushdie is one of the most evil looking men I have ever seen. His eyes are revolting.
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08/24/2008 08:58 AM
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Salman Rushdie is one of the most evil looking men I have ever seen. His eyes are revolting.
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Rushdie is one of the few true heroes of the Islamic world..
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08/24/2008 09:09 AM
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Salman Rushdie is one of the most evil looking men I have ever seen. His eyes are revolting.
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hey......retard.........Rushdie is only stating to obivious...islam is beginning to scare the straights...and it doesn't reform...out of self-presevation the infidels will take out the muslims...all of them...
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08/24/2008 09:22 AM
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Let's hope there is a Muslim Reformation very soon, for the sakes of all of them.
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They really hate him
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2005 thread. And now here we are.





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