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SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)

 
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Possible Earth-directed CME from M-flare. I don't anticipate a major CME impact but even a small one could rattle the magnetosphere due to the equinox effect.

Space Weather Message Code: ALTTP4
Serial Number: 552
Issue Time: 2021 Sep 23 0521 UTC

ALERT: Type IV Radio Emission
Begin Time: 2021 Sep 23 0454 UTC


NOAA Space Weather Scale descriptions can be found at
www.swpc.noaa.gov/noaa-scales-explanation

Description: Type IV emissions occur in association with major eruptions on the sun and are typically associated with strong coronal mass ejections and solar radiation storms.

-------------------------------------------------------------​-------------------

Space Weather Message Code: ALTTP2
Serial Number: 1100
Issue Time: 2021 Sep 23 0510 UTC

ALERT: Type II Radio Emission
Begin Time: 2021 Sep 23 0444 UTC
Estimated Velocity: 966 km/s


NOAA Space Weather Scale descriptions can be found at
www.swpc.noaa.gov/noaa-scales-explanation

Description: Type II emissions occur in association with eruptions on the sun and typically indicate a coronal mass ejection is associated with a flare event.

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 Quoting: Helios Maximus


Great catch!

Can you explain to me, please, your statement above
as to this M-class flare being effected by the "EQUINOX
EFFECT?" I've never heard of that before. (This one
from above:)
Possible Earth-directed CME from M-flare. I don't anticipate a major CME impact but even a small one could rattle the magnetosphere due to the equinox effect.


This is especially important given that there are some
scientists who believe that volcanism is EFFECTED BY
SOLAR ENERGIES--and with La Palma going off...that could
be an important factor in an up-tick in the next few
days.

Hope you see this and can reply I'm very interested!
Thanks!

cheers
The Oracle's Cookie
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Stronger geomagnetic storms and auroras are known to occur within a month or so nearest the spring and autumnal equinoxes. The exact mechanism for this remains largely a mystery, but it is widely accepted as fact.

Dr. Tony Phillips (of Spaceweather.com) writing in 2008 for NASA PR--

It turns out that rope-like magnetic connections between Sun and Earth are favored in springtime. It's a matter of geometry: As Earth goes around in its orbit, Earth's tilted magnetic poles make different angles with respect to the Sun, tipping back and forth with a one-year cadence. Around the time of the equinox, Earth's magnetic field is best oriented for "connecting-up" with the Sun.

But wait, there are two equinoxes, spring and fall, with similar magnetic geometry. Indeed, studies show that fall is aurora season, too. Geomagnetic disturbances are almost twice as likely in spring and fall vs. winter and summer, according to 75 years of historical records analyzed by solar physicist David Hathaway of the Marshall Space Flight Cente

Full report here:
[link to science.nasa.gov (secure)]
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Thanks Helios! I appreciate your quick reply.
I'm going to look into that link further.

Happy Equinox day!

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NOAA/SWPC is a SHAM!

I hate to be bitching about NOAA all the time but someone has to do it. Arrogance and incompetence is a distasteful combination to me.

NOAA/SWPC has declined to number THREE sunspot regions because they lack a penumbra! What kind of horse shit science is this? The spots are clearly visible for 2 days and one region even managed a B2 flare. This makes a mockery of their official Sunspot Number. By my count you could add 39 to their bogus number for today.

The 3 three regions in the SW can be seen in this graphic:

[link to jsoc.stanford.edu]

Count the spots for yourself here:

[link to jsoc.stanford.edu]

By the way, AR2873 produced TWO C1 flares, not one.

NOAA's BS Discussion--

Solar Activity

.24 hr Summary...
Solar activity reached low levels. Region 2871 (S27E36, Dko/beta-delta)
and 2873 (N26W22, Dao/beta) both produced a single C-class flare. Region
2872 (N17E27, Bxo/beta) formed a small, trailing spot but was otherwise
unremarkable. No Earth-directed CMEs were observed. The other spots on
the disk in the southern hemisphere lacked clear penumbra, appeared to
be decaying, and have not been assigned a NOAA Active Region number.


.Forecast...
Solar activity is expected to be very low, with a 50 percent chance for
C-class activity on 22-24 Sep.

Joint USAF/NOAA Solar Region Summary
SRS Number 265 Issued at 0030Z on 22 Sep 2021
Report compiled from data received at SWO on 21 Sep
I. Regions with Sunspots. Locations Valid at 21/2400Z
Nmbr Location Lo Area Z LL NN Mag Type
2871 S27E36 357 0310 Dko 06 08 Beta-Delta
2872 N17E27 006 0010 Bxo 03 04 Beta
2873 N26W22 056 0110 Dao 07 08 Beta
IA. H-alpha Plages without Spots. Locations Valid at 21/2400Z Sep
Nmbr Location Lo
None
II. Regions Due to Return 22 Sep to 24 Sep
Nmbr Lat Lo
2863 S16 277
2864 N24 268

First C1 flare from 2873:

[link to wwwbis.sidc.be (secure)]
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Thanks for that info!
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M 2.85 .... from AR2871.

SolarDemon movie:

[link to wwwbis.sidc.be (secure)]
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Last night I woke up about 2:30am for some reason and could NOT get back to sleep. Now I know why!
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)
Another M-flare from Earth-facing 2871.

M 1.89


GONG pic from Canary Islands:

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M 2.85 .... from AR2871.

SolarDemon movie:

[link to wwwbis.sidc.be (secure)]
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Last night I woke up about 2:30am for some reason and could NOT get back to sleep. Now I know why!
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SOLAR JU - JU?
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https://imgur.com/T7Gp7Cn


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M 2.85 .... from AR2871.

SolarDemon movie:

[link to wwwbis.sidc.be (secure)]
 Quoting: Helios Maximus


Last night I woke up about 2:30am for some reason and could NOT get back to sleep. Now I know why!
 Quoting: Simple27


SOLAR JU - JU?
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That's my guess!
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I believe this is from the first M flare. Still waiting on updates for the new M flare. Wanted to get this in here before the update so we have both. :)

https://imgur.com/Gouwz8H

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M 1.8 flare movie:

[link to wwwbis.sidc.be (secure)]

SDO image (AIA 094):

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov (secure)]

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I believe this is from the first M flare. Still waiting on updates for the new M flare. Wanted to get this in here before the update so we have both. :)

https://imgur.com/Gouwz8H

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G'day, Simple!

I didn't see much of a CME from the M2.8. What little I could see was focused below the ecliptic plane. There was also a far side slow CME at the same time (possibly a filament eruption).

CACTus CME List:

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Thanks for clarifying that Hugh :)

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Re: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)
M 2.85 .... from AR2871.

SolarDemon movie:

[link to wwwbis.sidc.be (secure)]
 Quoting: Helios Maximus


Last night I woke up about 2:30am for some reason and could NOT get back to sleep. Now I know why!
 Quoting: Simple27


SOLAR JU - JU?
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That's my guess!
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YOU MAY NOT B A SOLAR 'TARD' AFTUH ALL.....UH....
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Small CME from the M1 also mostly south of Sun-Earth line.

STEREO A images:

[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov (secure)]

[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov (secure)]

As usual a long wait for SoHO data........

AR2871 is decaying but still has a small delta area.

[link to www.solarham.net (secure)]
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~ Thomas Jefferson, 1779
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Good thread up today from "the Boss"--We aren't alone
with "flare symptom fatigue!"

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Thanks a 1,000,000 Helios and Simple27 for keeping the
updates coming on these flares...man this is wild!

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I think we have another CME right now
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)
Product: Forecast Discussion
Issued: 2021 Sep 24 0030 UTC
Prepared by the U.S. Dept. of Commerce, NOAA, Space Weather Prediction
Center

.24 hr Summary...

Solar activity reached moderate levels. Region 2871 (S28E11,
Dao/beta-gamma-delta) produced two M flares, the largest of which was a
M2.8/1N flare at 23/0442 UTC. Subsequent CMEs were observed after the
the flare along with a Type II radio sweep (966 km/s) and a Type IV
radio sweep. There is potential for some portion of the ejecta to have
an Earth-directed component. Arrival would likely be outside the 3-day
forecast period on 27 Sep
.


Region 2872 (N17E19, Cai/beta) was mostly unchanged since the last
reporting period and was inactive. Region 2874 (S23, Lo=047) decayed to
plage and nearby Region 2875 (S32W47, Bxo/beta) was also in decay, but
maintained a few, small spots.

.Forecast...
Solar activity is expected to be low with a slight chance for R1-R2
(Minor-Moderate) radio blackouts over 24-26 Sep.

Solarsoft/SDO close-up movie of M1.8 flare:

[link to sdowww.lmsal.com (secure)]

Joint USAF/NOAA Solar Region Summary
SRS Number 267 Issued at 0030Z on 24 Sep 2021
Report compiled from data received at SWO on 23 Sep
I. Regions with Sunspots. Locations Valid at 23/2400Z
Nmbr Location Lo Area Z LL NN Mag Type
2871 S28E11 356 0210 Dao 05 11 Beta-Gamma-Delta
2872 N17E02 005 0120 Cai 06 15 Beta
2873 N26W48 055 0010 Bxo 09 06 Beta
2875 S32W47 055 0010 Bxo 04 03 Beta
IA. H-alpha Plages without Spots. Locations Valid at 23/2400Z Sep
Nmbr Location Lo
2874 S25W40 047
II. Regions Due to Return 24 Sep to 26 Sep
Nmbr Lat Lo
2863 S16 277


2864 N24 268
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MINOR GEOMAGNETIC STORM WATCH: NOAA forecasters say there is a 40% chance of minor G1-class geomagnetic storms on Sept. 26th when a high-speed stream of solar wind is expected to hit Earth's magnetic field. The gaseous material is flowing from an equatorial hole in the sun's atmosphere. High-latitude sky watchers should be alert for auroras.

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OFF-TARGET CMEs: Sunspot AR2871 erupted twice yesterday, producing two significant M-class solar flares. Each explosion hurled a CME into space.

https://imgur.com/qy1ShTm


https://imgur.com/GdJdmNw


When it exploded, the sunspot was almost-directly facing Earth, yet the CMEs are off-target. They are not heading our way. Why not? A large hole in the sun's atmosphere located west of AR2871 is spewing solar wind into space. The emerging stream of gas may have deflected the CMEs.

There is still a chance that Earth might feel the effects of these CMEs when they pass near our planet on Sept. 27th. A glancing blow or even a near-miss could be enough to unsettle Earth's magnetic field. Arctic auroras, anyone?

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https://imgur.com/M7TupDi


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OFF-TARGET CMEs: Sunspot AR2871 erupted twice yesterday, producing two significant M-class solar flares. Each explosion hurled a CME into space.

https://imgur.com/qy1ShTm


https://imgur.com/GdJdmNw


When it exploded, the sunspot was almost-directly facing Earth, yet the CMEs are off-target. They are not heading our way. Why not? A large hole in the sun's atmosphere located west of AR2871 is spewing solar wind into space. The emerging stream of gas may have deflected the CMEs.

There is still a chance that Earth might feel the effects of these CMEs when they pass near our planet on Sept. 27th. A glancing blow or even a near-miss could be enough to unsettle Earth's magnetic field. Arctic auroras, anyone?

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Are you guys thinking it could affect the la palma eruption? Maybe make it worse than it currently is?
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Are you guys thinking it could affect the la palma eruption? Maybe make it worse than it currently is?
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Not everyone agrees, but I believe it could. Not saying it WILL, but it could. It's all connected.

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Are you guys thinking it could affect the la palma eruption? Maybe make it worse than it currently is?
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Not everyone agrees, but I believe it could. Not saying it WILL, but it could. It's all connected.

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Thank you simple27 hf
I’m with you on that train of thought for sure!
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UPGRADED GEOMAGNETIC STORM WATCH: Earth's magnetic field might receive a double blow this weekend. First, a stream of solar wind is expected to hit on Sept. 26th. Next, a CME might graze Earth during the early hours of Sept. 27th. The combined effect could produce geomagnetic storms as strong as category G2 with auroras visible in northern-tier US states during the night of Sept. 26-27.

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Are you guys thinking it could affect the la palma eruption? Maybe make it worse than it currently is?
 Quoting: RubyV82


Not everyone agrees, but I believe it could. Not saying it WILL, but it could. It's all connected.

sun
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Thank you simple27 hf
I’m with you on that train of thought for sure!
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The idea that it is the sun which at least PARTIALLY
drives everything from weather to earthquakes to volcanic
eruptions is a theory which "citizen scientist" Ben Davidson
(from Suspicious Observers dot org--no spaces to find it)
has been repeating for many years now. I'm pretty much
"on-board" with his theory on this, though of course the
mainstream sciences don't ALL agree on this.

As far as a G2 Storm coming up this weekend (Sunday/Monday)
you may wish to check Ben's "Physical MANIFESTATIONS of
up-ticks in solar output and spaceweather (including
the occasional strong gamma ray burst (GRBs)...I always
check this chart (I have posted it before but this is a
good spot to repost it.) EVEN psychological effects and
real body-symptoms is also included in Ben's world:

:CosmicRAhealth:

PLEASE CHECK THIS VERSION OF THE CHART AND
TELL ME IF IT IS EASIER TO READ...I THINK THE
SMALL PRINT IS GETTING BLURRED AS I BLOW IT UP
TO POST--HERE IS A NEW CAPTURE (SAME CHART):

DavidsonCHRT

(By the way, the bigger GEO-storms actually DO
affect my vision...so not sure the chart is blurry
or I AM BLURRY! lol!) TY




I'll be watching for this as I am a "sensitive" to
geo-storms.

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Are you guys thinking it could affect the la palma eruption? Maybe make it worse than it currently is?
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Not everyone agrees, but I believe it could. Not saying it WILL, but it could. It's all connected.

sun
 Quoting: Simple27


Thank you simple27 hf
I’m with you on that train of thought for sure!
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Yeah...but it is a HUGE QUESTION MARK (just as the
actual outline of the volcano's CREST shows it below!)

:QuestionMRKlaPal:

Isn't that odd that NATURE would make a formation
like that--and it patterns after a question mark?
Maybe that's where the question mark STARTED FROM?

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Cookie, I would say the 2nd chart is a little more clear, although the first one is readable. :)

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Re: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)
AURORAS BEFORE THE STORM: The storm hasn't started yet, but auroras are already dancing over Iceland. Last night, a minor geomagnetic disturbance rippled over the island nation where Christopher Mathews was waiting with his camera:

https://imgur.com/Uggusme


"I shot this image of the aurora over my house in southern Iceland at about 11 pm," says Mathews. "This is a 2.5 second exposure taken at ISO 2000, with an aperture of f/2.0. "

At the time, the planetary K-index was only 2, a low value that usually signifies no auroras. "But local conditions can and do vary, and over Iceland our local magnetic observatory recorded a K-index of 4, much more suitable for a good show!" says Mathews.

If the current forecast holds, tonight's K-index could reach 5 or 6, values that represent full-fledged geomagnetic storms. The auroras over Iceland could become very bright, indeed.

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Two new sunspot regions in the SE were numbered today. Only a handful of C1 flares in the past few days.

Joint USAF/NOAA Solar Region Summary
SRS Number 270 Issued at 0030Z on 27 Sep 2021
Report compiled from data received at SWO on 26 Sep
I. Regions with Sunspots. Locations Valid at 26/2400Z
Nmbr Location Lo Area Z LL NN Mag Type
2871 S28W27 355 0090 Dai 05 10 Beta-Gamma
2872 N17W38 006 0040 Cro 08 07 Beta
2877 S17W00 328 0010 Bxo 04 04 Beta
2878 S23E34 294 0030 Cro 06 06 Beta

IA. H-alpha Plages without Spots. Locations Valid at 26/2400Z Sep
Nmbr Location Lo
2873 N25W87 055
2874 S25W82 050
2875 S33W87 055
2876 S22W24 352
II. Regions Due to Return 27 Sep to 29 Sep
Nmbr Lat Lo
2868 S20 230
2866 S19 215

Active Region images:

[link to www.solarham.net (secure)]

Solar Activity

.24 hr Summary...
Solar activity was at low levels as plage Region 2873 (N25W87) and
Region 2871 (S28W27, Dai/beta-gamma) produced C1 flares at 26/0631 and
26/1124 UTC respectively. Slight decay was observed in Regions 2871 and
2872 (N17W38, Cro/beta). Slight growth occurred in Regions 2877 (S17W00,
Bxo/beta) and 2878 (S23E34, Cro/beta). No Earth-directed CMEs were
observed.

.Forecast...
Solar activity is expected to be very low, with C-class flares likely,
over 27-29 Sep.
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