NASA Caught Out Again With Confusing Statement Tyche - Nibiru

You attribute far too much power to NASA. NASA does not control all of astronomy nor do all astronomers work for NASA. Most astronomers work for universities. Some get NASA funding but most do not. Funding comes from various branches of government, from the universities themselves, and many private funding sources. Also, not all astronomy is done in the US. There are many astronomers all over the world. So no, NASA is not hiding astronomical information and generally does not even know what is in the data. NASA has to wait for researchers to look at the data and tell them what is there. And no, NASA does not have to approve publications if you get NASA funding. After the fact, you do tell them what publications you have made with their funding and you put in the acknowledgements that the research was funded by NASA.

There clearly are many things that the general public does not know but not because it is "classified" but because it is rather obscure and the general public doesn't know where to look. The information is written is highly technical language in technical journals. These journals are available through university libraries. But unless you are familiar with differential and integral equations, tensors, electrodynamics, hydrodynamics, atomic and quantum physics, and then all of the astrophysical concepts you have to wait until the information is distilled down into understandable packets. But that runs the risk, as seen here on GLP, of errors and misunderstandings.

When you get right down to it, NASA is trying to make the data easier to access. It used to be a lot harder to access data. You use to have to pay to get a lot of NASA data and it could months. The cost wasn't much just having someone copy the data and ship it and the cost of the media. But now all that data is online and accessed for free. NASA has spent a lot of time setting up data repositories. Not just current data but old data too. Old data lets you look at trends that you cannot see if you look at just a day's, week's, or years' worth of data. The only problem I see is that the data are so accessible that people are looking at the data and have no concept what they are looking at. For some reason, people don't ask what does this mean. They would rather make up their own stories and most of the time, those stories are so far off the mark it is painful to read. But the data are really out there and not hidden.

Maybe naivete explains where you are coming from in your posts Commutator,... to give such an whitewashing answer. Either that,... or you felt compelled to build a strawman to sacrifice in an answer you know to be yes. Yes NASA has secrets from me and YOU.

There is a facility in the area I live with a two lane highway heading out to it, I am NOT allowed down that road at all. Huge signs warn me of the danger involved in breaching the warnings.

If you are saying that there are no scientists or personal working in the NASA organization keeping secrets from you then I would have to say

You know some of the university contracts you are talking about are given by the "government" People sign away their right to tell you about them legally and you know that.

I guess for a paycheck.



Z

If I am so naive then you are going to have to explain the process. Explain how NASA can hide data when they really don't even see it. Data are handled at the data centers.

IRAS was run by CalTech
[link to irsa.ipac.caltech.edu]

Spitzer is run by CalTech
[link to www.spitzer.caltech.edu]

Hubble is run by Association of Universities for Research in Astronomy as is located on the Johns Hopkins campus
[link to www.stsci.edu]

Chandra x-ray observatory is run by Harvard
[link to chandra.harvard.edu]

SOHO is a joint NASA and ESA satellite and share communications and data archives
[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]
[link to soho.esac.esa.int]

COBE was run by Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory
[link to aether.lbl.gov]

WISE is run out of UC-Berkeley
[link to wise.ssl.berkeley.edu]

Planck is a joint NASA and ESA mission
[link to planck.caltech.edu]
[link to www.esa.int]

Gravity Probe B was Stanford
[link to einstein.stanford.edu]

Suzaku is a joint NASA and JAXA mission
[link to heasarc.gsfc.nasa.gov]
[link to www.isas.jaxa.jp]

Hipparcos was an ESA mission
[link to sci.esa.int]

HALCA is a ISAS mission
[link to www.vsop.isas.ac.jp]

The James Webb Space Telescope is a joint effort by NASA, ESA, and CSA
[link to www.jwst.nasa.gov]
[link to sci.esa.int]

The Large Binocular Telescope Interferometer is a ground based observatory run by University of Arizona
[link to lbti.as.arizona.edu]

So with all your experience in working with NASA data products tell us how this clould have happened and after 40 years and thousands of people all over the world handling and pouring over the data no one has reported anything odd.

and do you not feel compelled at all by the way NASA are very forward about some data and not some of the rest?

Okay they have data analysis all over the place... but like I signed a pledge a long time ago - which reduces my legal capacity to talk to you about things - does it not suggest that NASA would be not very transparent in what they find?

Instead with it being a joint private and government funded organization, some THIRD PARTY would get the info first. It is then mulled over and decided as to what can andcan't go public.

First off NASA do debunk their own theories and findings often - also if an amateur astronomer figures out or finds something they have not NASA will shill it to death - until THEY are completely right or they make the public lose sight of what is the basis for discussion.

They are paid to be first with discovery - they are also PAID to keep secrets.

OR do you know something that NASA are not telling us/ vis vis getting paid?

You see how speculative and assuming I got there?

it's all around us!

Good question BTW 'Z' :)

It's only incoherent if you don't read behind the lines - yes you are right - but I still say that data is hidden for far more reasons than the public would be given.

And I didn't attribute too much power to NASA, but they are a government tool - that's pretty damn powerful.