Walmart employees fired after disarming gunman caught shoplifting

i used to work for walmart...for almost 10 years...i became a dept manager. they have the most dumbest rules, that usually you dont know about until its to late and they fire your ass.

One more reason to dislike Walmart. The guy was essentially held hostage and the rest are supposed to watch?

Wow.. unbelievable that WalMart would fire them for defending themselves and not letting an armed felon lose in the store.
Can you imagine what would have happened if the police had gotten there? Twenty cops with a blockade outside the doors and the felon would have probably taken hostages or tried to shoot his way out.

The article does say that the COPs would have arrived in full force. I sheepishly go to Wal-Mart but am going to have to change where I get my perscriptions.

On another note concerning Wal-Mart, I saw a guy with a bumber sticker that says: Mall-Wart. how appropriate!

what i would love to see is all the other employees working at this walmart quitting in support of their fellow workers. what would it take to start this?

Wal-mart isnt the only place this happens at

Many many corporations and NWO puppets trying their best to dis-empower and dis-engage the populace.

It is interesting to read the disgust of the commentators on that article concerning Mal-Wart. Very few agreed with what Mal-Wart did.

This is the new norm, forget about your natural reaction to protect or even save yourself or your friends. We are mere economic commodities and we shouldn't have to think or react to anything because there will always be BIG-BROTHER and his tenticles to protect us. So please please don't do anything rash!

It has become pathetic for far too long!

They are FOOLS if they don't sue the living shit out of walmart for this. Endless lawyers will take this probono it's a winner for sure!

I just looked at the pic of these pathetic americans and I can tell you right now they are too dumb to sue. Which is why they worked at Mall Wart to begin with.

WAL-MART IS ETHICALLY AND MORALLY BANKRUPT. THEIR CHARTER SUCKS AND INTOLERATION OF RULES VIOLATIONS EVEN WHEN SOCIALLY ACCEPTABLE REFLECTS ON THE INFLEXIBILITY, SHALLOWNESS, AND COWARDICE OF ITS EXECS.

LOLZ

All I could think of is "You vill follow orders. No deviation will be allowed."

How come the good companies with great policies are the ones that pay the most and the crappy places make you take their abuse for very little pay or benefits?

Too Harsh man! They are down on their luck. The world needs more compassion rather than kicking while someone is down.

Peace.

NO, the world needs these willfully ignorant WIMPS to stop taking it like big babies.

If you see something SAY something - we DO NOT mean for you to DO something......

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Can't believe this happened....

yep another reason to avoid walshit

Longton, according to the police report, was a convicted felon who had multiple warrants out for his arrest. He was a restricted person -- meaning he wasn't supposed to be carrying a handgun. The handgun was loaded, according to the report, and contained a bullet in the chamber.

Last Edited by Pilot_007 on 02/10/2011 03:22 PM

Where about a citizens arrest?

its safer to disengage than try to take down the gunman. they got lucky they took him down with no shots being fired, the company has that policy cause the merchandise is not worth someone getting hurt over.
they got fired cause walmart doesnt trust their actions in the future, if something like that were to happen again.

This is why I haven't stepped foot in a Walmart for the last 10 years. They are the perfect example of corporatism at its worst -- the human factor is non-existant. They think only in term of assets and liabilities. They have it down to a pure, mechnical, soulless science.

unfortunately in this economic climate, there would be 5 people to replace each one who quit.

Exactly - they were not hired as Police - whats next they tackle a "suspected" shop lifter ?

It is a Vigilante type attitude with no training in law enforcement that got them fired ... it could have gone horribly wrong !

I'm not saying they should have been fired, by I for one would not fight an armed robber over a few dollars worth of shitty merchandise and minimum wage.

The policy is there for a reason: if some hero employee does fight back, gets shot and crippled for life the store could be on the hook for 10s of millions of dollars in liability. Even more if the gunman escalates and kills/injures customers in the process.

it is easier to replace them than try to figure out there mental stability - especially at the slave wages they pay

Walmart considers him (and his family) a greater lawsuit liability if he (or the gunman) gets shot while defending himself than if he gets shot while trying to "disengage." If he gets shot while trying to just hand over whatever the crook wants the store can claim in court that they took all "reasonable" precautions (as if security cameras and silent alarms prevent people from being robbed and shot) and that the store policy that employees should not resist under any circumstances is basically a "best practices" approach. As they took all "reasonable" precautions they would not be liable, at least in their minds. If they let their employees "get away with" defending themselves under any circumstances, then they fear a lawyer in a future case could point back at the incident as evidence that the store was not following the company guidelines and use it as leverage for a settlement or lawsuit. The store's more concerned with the potential cost of an employee defending themselves than they are in employee safety, but guilt also lies in the justice system for being so broken that robbers can sometimes sue successfully against their victims (Bodine v. Enterprise High School being the most famous example).

Do you think this was the attitude of the public in Germany during the 1930s? Be productive citizens as far as work goes but be mindless drones and don't ask what is going on with the government? Just trust the government and now corporations to do its job because it is the law and they know better so stay out of it. Like OP 1094810 says: "They have it down to a pure, mechanical, soulless science."

They should have let the guy kill a couple of them, that would have shown scummart!

I really hate what these giant corporations have done to our country.. it is a sad day indeed when you get fired for not dying at the hands of an armed gunman.

Started a thread on "Employment at will" workers yesterday. Its not just wall-mart that treats people this way and I bet a lot of people are "at will" workers and don't even know.
YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS

So you can't defend yourself in Utah?

Is that the deal.