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Richard Eldritch
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1202669 United States 01/20/2011 06:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In my utopian fantasy land in my head, I am really anti-gun. Its an outdated tool of unenlightend souls. Quoting: Hawk0But if anyone thinks its a good idea to give up guns, and or weapons at this point in history, really lives with thier head in the sand. Pains my heart to think we are so past "that point", that there really is no point anymore. Keep up the good fight... but the division has be so ingrained in our minds, that ultimently, noone wins. You dont find shooting guns fun? In my fantasy land there would be no reason to be anti gun because people wouldnt be violent. Shooting guns is fun and great recreation. I would rather fantasize about a land where people are better and we dont have to control inanimate objects. |
Hawk0
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1220540 United States 01/20/2011 06:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In my utopian fantasy land in my head, I am really anti-gun. Its an outdated tool of unenlightend souls. Quoting: Hawk0But if anyone thinks its a good idea to give up guns, and or weapons at this point in history, really lives with thier head in the sand. Pains my heart to think we are so past "that point", that there really is no point anymore. Keep up the good fight... but the division has be so ingrained in our minds, that ultimently, noone wins. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1202669 United States 01/20/2011 06:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In my utopian fantasy land in my head, I am really anti-gun. Its an outdated tool of unenlightend souls. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 305429But if anyone thinks its a good idea to give up guns, and or weapons at this point in history, really lives with thier head in the sand. Pains my heart to think we are so past "that point", that there really is no point anymore. Keep up the good fight... but the division has be so ingrained in our minds, that ultimently, noone wins. Im with you there Hawk0, noone will win. The fact is that the american gouverment has made the american people so scared for basicly everything, so people buy guns and think they will protect them, But the true fact is that even if you own a 44 magnum, if the military or the cops want to nail your ass, that gun wont protect anyone. Ive lived in united states for some years and the one thing that i noticed is that you americans, you are shitscared for everything, if its not terrorist its the cops, if its not the cops its the gangbangers, if it not them its something else. They feed you shitfood and you grow bigger and bigger, they encourage people to be fat just because if they told them to do something about it,they will be sued. I mean comeon, you can tell people not to smoke cause it kills you but you cant tell a really fat dude that he should not sit in a fucking electric wheelchair and have a assitant takeing down his food from the shelf. When i saw that i was like "what the fuck, this dude is so fucking fat that he gets a dude from the store to do his shoping, all he has to do is point and make some god damn goblin sound" If it was me i would just tell that fat bastard to get up from his ass if he wanted to shop, if not he could starve for a mounth because it would most likely make him only good. But yeah back to the point... guns are just the american illusion of safety, there is no safety in them. Arm yourself with knowledge instead how to blend into the masses, how to suvive without any food and money.... It will certainly make them rethink their careers when they start dying. As the Outlaw Josey Whales states it perfectly....dyin aint much of a living. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1202669 United States 01/20/2011 06:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In my utopian fantasy land in my head, I am really anti-gun. Its an outdated tool of unenlightend souls. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1220540But if anyone thinks its a good idea to give up guns, and or weapons at this point in history, really lives with thier head in the sand. Pains my heart to think we are so past "that point", that there really is no point anymore. Keep up the good fight... but the division has be so ingrained in our minds, that ultimently, noone wins. You do realize the duality of the two smilies you used correct? There would have been none of that liberty your flag there states had not the citizenry been armed with the finest military weapons of the time period. Clap about that! |
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themfgl
User ID: 1202669 United States 01/20/2011 06:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An ideal world is the point. You have to start somewhere why not with implamenting the laws in place? Quoting: Hawk0It will start (again), but after the bombs drop. Maybe next time we will learn.??? yeah, life was much better in the stone age when your adversary bashed your head in with a rock or club. Human nature is to compete. When assets get thin, human nature is greed. No bomb will stop that. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1119817 United States 01/20/2011 06:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I understand what you are saying, but you need to study History more. Equating a lack of guns with a utopia is a misnomer. Humans have and will devise methods and implementations to kill. In fact, it is easier to kill a Human without the use of a gun. When I say easier, I mean it literally. 1. Your victim does not see you as a threat when you approach. 2. There is little evidence left when a gun is NOT employed. Gun powder residue is very hard to remove from victim and self. Obviously a gun garners alot of attention from the surrounding public at large, even if suppressed. 3. Crime lab forensic specialist have perfecting bullet/casing matching techniques. 4. Its just bloody, the more blood, the less likely one is able to get away with killing someone. I can go on, but your solution to bring about a utopia is flawed, and is just about guns. The only way to insure this utopia is achieved is to cut off everyone's hands, because 'in the trade' the only weapon is the hands. It is the most used and effective. In combat guns are used primarily as fire suppression. That is it. Grenades and mortar rounds are more effective for mass casualties. If it is guns, then next it will be knifes. After knifes will be anyone's guess. |
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Hawk0
(OP) User ID: 897951 United States 01/20/2011 06:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An ideal world is the point. You have to start somewhere why not with implamenting the laws in place? Quoting: themfglIt will start (again), but after the bombs drop. Maybe next time we will learn.??? yeah, life was much better in the stone age when your adversary bashed your head in with a rock or club. Human nature is to compete. When assets get thin, human nature is greed. No bomb will stop that. Thats a great point, wars, battles, lives lost have always resulted over land disputes and resources. WE are too far gone. :minimoran: |
Hawk0
(OP) User ID: 897951 United States 01/20/2011 06:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I understand what you are saying, but you need to study History more. Equating a lack of guns with a utopia is a misnomer. Humans have and will devise methods and implementations to kill. In fact, it is easier to kill a Human without the use of a gun. When I say easier, I mean it literally. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11198171. Your victim does not see you as a threat when you approach. 2. There is little evidence left when a gun is NOT employed. Gun powder residue is very hard to remove from victim and self. Obviously a gun garners alot of attention from the surrounding public at large, even if suppressed. 3. Crime lab forensic specialist have perfecting bullet/casing matching techniques. 4. Its just bloody, the more blood, the less likely one is able to get away with killing someone. I can go on, but your solution to bring about a utopia is flawed, and is just about guns. The only way to insure this utopia is achieved is to cut off everyone's hands, because 'in the trade' the only weapon is the hands. It is the most used and effective. In combat guns are used primarily as fire suppression. That is it. Grenades and mortar rounds are more effective for mass casualties. If it is guns, then next it will be knifes. After knifes will be anyone's guess. Great post! thanks. :minimoran: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 305429 Sweden 01/20/2011 06:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In my utopian fantasy land in my head, I am really anti-gun. Its an outdated tool of unenlightend souls. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1202669But if anyone thinks its a good idea to give up guns, and or weapons at this point in history, really lives with thier head in the sand. Pains my heart to think we are so past "that point", that there really is no point anymore. Keep up the good fight... but the division has be so ingrained in our minds, that ultimently, noone wins. Im with you there Hawk0, noone will win. The fact is that the american gouverment has made the american people so scared for basicly everything, so people buy guns and think they will protect them, But the true fact is that even if you own a 44 magnum, if the military or the cops want to nail your ass, that gun wont protect anyone. Ive lived in united states for some years and the one thing that i noticed is that you americans, you are shitscared for everything, if its not terrorist its the cops, if its not the cops its the gangbangers, if it not them its something else. They feed you shitfood and you grow bigger and bigger, they encourage people to be fat just because if they told them to do something about it,they will be sued. I mean comeon, you can tell people not to smoke cause it kills you but you cant tell a really fat dude that he should not sit in a fucking electric wheelchair and have a assitant takeing down his food from the shelf. When i saw that i was like "what the fuck, this dude is so fucking fat that he gets a dude from the store to do his shoping, all he has to do is point and make some god damn goblin sound" If it was me i would just tell that fat bastard to get up from his ass if he wanted to shop, if not he could starve for a mounth because it would most likely make him only good. But yeah back to the point... guns are just the american illusion of safety, there is no safety in them. Arm yourself with knowledge instead how to blend into the masses, how to suvive without any food and money.... It will certainly make them rethink their careers when they start dying. As the Outlaw Josey Whales states it perfectly....dyin aint much of a living. Well if you got that magnum and they want to take you out, do you think they will storm the place with tazers? no they will most likely wait outside til you take a sneakpeak and from 500 meter away blow you head off with a sniper rifle. And you also got to understand these are men that are there for one purpose, to kill you, thats what they have trained for and they dont sit outside with their family. You are on the inside trying to protect them etc etc, you hav emotions etc, what would you do if they wounded your child just to lure you out to have a clear shot? As soon as you will find yourself locked inside you gotta realize that what you have there is what you have, what they have outside is everything, they see everything and they have time on their side. So no, they are not affraid of you or any other mr american with their licenced gun. If they want to kill you, they will and without any of them being hurt, they will do this by 8 in the morning and eat dinner at 12.... thats their duty. |
Richard Eldritch
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Richard Eldritch
User ID: 1236304 United Kingdom 01/20/2011 06:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I understand what you are saying, but you need to study History more. Equating a lack of guns with a utopia is a misnomer. Humans have and will devise methods and implementations to kill. In fact, it is easier to kill a Human without the use of a gun. When I say easier, I mean it literally. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11198171. Your victim does not see you as a threat when you approach. 2. There is little evidence left when a gun is NOT employed. Gun powder residue is very hard to remove from victim and self. Obviously a gun garners alot of attention from the surrounding public at large, even if suppressed. 3. Crime lab forensic specialist have perfecting bullet/casing matching techniques. 4. Its just bloody, the more blood, the less likely one is able to get away with killing someone. I can go on, but your solution to bring about a utopia is flawed, and is just about guns. The only way to insure this utopia is achieved is to cut off everyone's hands, because 'in the trade' the only weapon is the hands. It is the most used and effective. In combat guns are used primarily as fire suppression. That is it. Grenades and mortar rounds are more effective for mass casualties. If it is guns, then next it will be knifes. After knifes will be anyone's guess. Peace HUSSAR! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1119817 United States 01/20/2011 06:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We Americans need to turn in our guns and join the rest of the civilized world. I think the terrible incident in Arizona should wake everyone up. Quoting: Richard EldritchHope hasn't died I lived in South Africa for some time. The organized crime rate is very high there. Car jackings are the norm. You can own a gun, but the laws on shooting someone are so strict that no one dares use a gun. The criminals do what they want because of this. We had a person come into our house one night. They got in through the garage door. The only thing I had was a baseball bat to protect my family with. Im sure they were armed, as they always are. These People for whatever reason decided to leave. I have two children and a wife. If they had continued they would have killed me, rapped my wife, and probably rapped my children as well. It is very easy to make a gun, does not take much skill or machining. Since making a gun is so easy, then what is your solution in dealing with criminals that will do such things if in fact guns are removed from Society? |
Hawk0
(OP) User ID: 897951 United States 01/20/2011 06:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We Americans need to turn in our guns and join the rest of the civilized world. I think the terrible incident in Arizona should wake everyone up. Quoting: Richard EldritchHope hasn't died Never going to happen.. what you wish for...is in the past, some turns taking are one way streets. :minimoran: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1215213 Canada 01/20/2011 06:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | circle jerk with a straw man. what fun. what the hell does anti-gun mean? how about just some common sense rules and regulations and 'control' the distribution of firearms and ammo so nutjobs, idiots, and losers can't get enough so they walk into a school, post office, workplace, etc. and start firing. |
Richard Eldritch
User ID: 1236304 United Kingdom 01/20/2011 06:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We Americans need to turn in our guns and join the rest of the civilized world. I think the terrible incident in Arizona should wake everyone up. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1119817Hope hasn't died I lived in South Africa for some time. The organized crime rate is very high there. Car jackings are the norm. You can own a gun, but the laws on shooting someone are so strict that no one dares use a gun. The criminals do what they want because of this. We had a person come into our house one night. They got in through the garage door. The only thing I had was a baseball bat to protect my family with. Im sure they were armed, as they always are. These People for whatever reason decided to leave. I have two children and a wife. If they had continued they would have killed me, rapped my wife, and probably rapped my children as well. It is very easy to make a gun, does not take much skill or machining. Since making a gun is so easy, then what is your solution in dealing with criminals that will do such things if in fact guns are removed from Society? God you're right. HUSSAR! |
Hawk0
(OP) User ID: 897951 United States 01/20/2011 06:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | circle jerk with a straw man. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1215213what fun. what the hell does anti-gun mean? how about just some common sense rules and regulations and 'control' the distribution of firearms and ammo so nutjobs, idiots, and losers can't get enough so they walk into a school, post office, workplace, etc. and start firing. Your right, but you do not understand the problem. :minimoran: |
themfgl
User ID: 1202669 United States 01/20/2011 07:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | circle jerk with a straw man. Quoting: Hawk0what fun. what the hell does anti-gun mean? how about just some common sense rules and regulations and 'control' the distribution of firearms and ammo so nutjobs, idiots, and losers can't get enough so they walk into a school, post office, workplace, etc. and start firing. Your right, but you do not understand the problem. So what is the problem. Keeping in mind the FACT that a gun is a hunk of metal and has never ever killed anyone. |
malu
User ID: 1046738 United States 01/20/2011 08:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We Americans need to turn in our guns and join the rest of the civilized world. I think the terrible incident in Arizona should wake everyone up. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1213083yes i think you are right. guns are evil and they scare me. i wonder if i should just call 911? "By way of deception, thou shalt do war." Israel's Mossad "The truth shall set you free." U.S. Central Intelligence Agency Motto |
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