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How to live off the government - without having a ton of children (Or even one child!)

 
WorkingMan
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07/22/2014 01:05 AM
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First off I would like to say that we were all born into a government because people were considered to dangerous to make their own decisions. There is no way out, besides death. Anyone why is religious (and their religion is just) would know that suicide is punishable by an eternity in; hell or other forms of punishment. Now that we got that out of the way; I would like to say that I am 18 years old and a hard worker. Why? because growing up I was told nothing is handed to you. So I worked my way through high school, became a trainer at a 4 star restaurant, and am now attending a good college. I am now going to become an IO psychologist once I get all of the preparations out of the way. But then the thought occurred to me, why isn't anything handed to people? why is work before hand the only option to happiness later on? so I looked this link up, understood that living off the government was not only possible but easy, and I began to strategize. But while thinking on my plan, I read all of the replys to the initial post and I had another epiphany. Most the replies against working hard were either sarcastic, emotionally unstable, or flat out impaired. I realized it was because these people do not have thoughts like the rest of the population, they have feelings. This word has a negative connotation in this context not because feelings are bad, but because to much of a good thing turns into a bad thing. ask anything Mentally handy capped person in the world or just do basic research before replying to this and dissing this. Financially conservatives are to selfish because they do not help others when they need it, liberals are too selfish because they think others should give them money because it's the "right" thing to do, are there is a very scarce minority of people who just want to help others regardless of how it makes the feel or what it makes others think of them (all sociopathic traits I might add). We elect our versions of the best people to make hard decisions for us in order for us to stay ignorant and innocent. these people are supposed to make judgments based off of facts, and calls of the greater good. When a quarter of the country stops working, then the government can provide the necessary service to ensure life to these citizens. now 10% or that 25% sees how easy life is and they join them, things keep moving on this line, until one day everyone understands the ease of life under the government and we all live "happy". When our country hits this creaking point it is then that the government will realize that now they can't feed half the world, they cannot defend themselves, and their country has nothing (this is an extreme but slowly is going there). at this point everyone will be a slave to the things the government gives them. now we either have nothing and try to find happiness, or we have everything and enjoy the free time. sorry for the long post but I prefer to make logical arguments rather than emotional. that being said I am still a teenager and would like to say if your abusing the system or are just plain lazy and claim to be "a victim" of lifes circumstances you are a fucking piece of shit you should do some unbiases research before you debate anything you dumb fucks, and if you have done your research then you are a sociopath trying to make people think you are right in order for you to still have their approval. there is no outcome in which you have done your research and still believe that democratic liberals are just in anyway because they momentarily save people but in the long term they are fucking up society and our country. fuck you all.
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First off I would like to say that we were all born into a government because people were considered to dangerous to make their own decisions. There is no way out, besides death. Anyone why is religious (and their religion is just) would know that suicide is punishable by an eternity in; hell or other forms of punishment. Now that we got that out of the way; I would like to say that I am 18 years old and a hard worker. Why? because growing up I was told nothing is handed to you. So I worked my way through high school, became a trainer at a 4 star restaurant, and am now attending a good college. I am now going to become an IO psychologist once I get all of the preparations out of the way. But then the thought occurred to me, why isn't anything handed to people? why is work before hand the only option to happiness later on? so I looked this link up, understood that living off the government was not only possible but easy, and I began to strategize. But while thinking on my plan, I read all of the replys to the initial post and I had another epiphany. Most the replies against working hard were either sarcastic, emotionally unstable, or flat out impaired. I realized it was because these people do not have thoughts like the rest of the population, they have feelings. This word has a negative connotation in this context not because feelings are bad, but because to much of a good thing turns into a bad thing. ask anything Mentally handy capped person in the world or just do basic research before replying to this and dissing this. Financially conservatives are to selfish because they do not help others when they need it, liberals are too selfish because they think others should give them money because it's the "right" thing to do, are there is a very scarce minority of people who just want to help others regardless of how it makes the feel or what it makes others think of them (all sociopathic traits I might add). We elect our versions of the best people to make hard decisions for us in order for us to stay ignorant and innocent. these people are supposed to make judgments based off of facts, and calls of the greater good. When a quarter of the country stops working, then the government can provide the necessary service to ensure life to these citizens. now 10% or that 25% sees how easy life is and they join them, things keep moving on this line, until one day everyone understands the ease of life under the government and we all live "happy". When our country hits this creaking point it is then that the government will realize that now they can't feed half the world, they cannot defend themselves, and their country has nothing (this is an extreme but slowly is going there). at this point everyone will be a slave to the things the government gives them. now we either have nothing and try to find happiness, or we have everything and enjoy the free time. sorry for the long post but I prefer to make logical arguments rather than emotional. that being said I am still a teenager and would like to say if your abusing the system or are just plain lazy and claim to be "a victim" of lifes circumstances you are a fucking piece of shit you should do some unbiases research before you debate anything you dumb fucks, and if you have done your research then you are a sociopath trying to make people think you are right in order for you to still have their approval. there is no outcome in which you have done your research and still believe that democratic liberals are just in anyway because they momentarily save people but in the long term they are fucking up society and our country. fuck you all.
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Well I hope before you finish college they teach you what a paragraph is.
I am sure what you posted may be interesting but nearly impossible to read without copying it and making paragraphs.
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Re: How to live off the government - without having a ton of children (Or even one child!)
I left my husband of 7 yrs because he will not work, He went everything for free, so he went to a homeless shelter for 3 months, Went to concealing, Now the shelter put him up in a new apartment, Good will furniture for his apartment, a cell phone for free, 200.00 in food stamps per month, payed water,light,and gas. and all the bus passes he needs. Now he laughs at me and says, you work your ass for your apartment etc. and I kick back and let the shelter take care of me, I still do not have to work so how you like those apples, He can work and he is not disable at all. What a joke. Unbelievable. Texas.
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01/16/2015 06:30 AM
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Maybe if I brought it to the light then states would start to rethink these rules.

This may only be true in some states and not all of them, but I suggest if you would like to start changing it that you check out your state's welfare office rules and regulations.

It is all very simple actually. You don't work for 6 months. Then you sign up for Social Security. Then you sign up for welfare. Then you sign up for housing in your city. It could take awhile to get into a place. The problem here is that a lot of states have this rule for welfare where if you have applied for Social Security then they can not force you to get a job.

What happens when Social Security says you are not disabled? Well, first you do a reconsideration. (That takes up to 8 weeks to complete.) If they deny that then you go on to a Hearing...which can take up to 2 years to get a hearing date. After they deny that you go to an Appeals Council. Another 12 to 36 months to do that. And finally off to the Federal Court. Probably another year or so.

So, if your really NOT disabled and you stop after the hearing part and start all over again, you will be forever in the system, getting free housing, medical, food and money along the way.

How exactly do I know this? My neighbor does it. She lets the whole thing go through to a certain point and then just starts a whole new claim, but it allows her to stay on welfare forever, since the state can not force someone who is applying for Social Security to get a job.

I also know it because I had the same thing happen to me. The difference being that I got approved for social security after the very first reconsideration. (And I only had the reconsideration cause I didn't show up the first time for my psych meeting.) I actually moved to a new state in between and the new state said that I had to get a job. Once I filled for the reconsideration, they were not allowed to force me to get a job.

There is a huge difference between being disabled and getting social security and not being disabled and just using the system to your advantage. I think that if people apply for a reconsideration and get denied, people should have to go to the next level (Hearing) and if that is denied , the next level (Appeals Council) and if that is denied to the Federal Courts. And if the Federal Courts say you are not disabled, they can not apply again unless their medical history drastically changes. The problem is that they say that if you are denied for Social Security in the hearing phase that you can continue that claim to the next level and start a whole new claim!!

And I thought that the people living off welfare that have a dozen children is worse....not anymore. At least the government is supporting children. This though, is crazy.
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Wait...what? You can quit work, claim to have a disability and apply for SS Disability payments, meanwhile collecting money? Do you have to pay for any of these hearings? I know there is a rule about having to have had a job in the last couple of years. I'm wondering because I know someone- an at home mom,has been quite ill for years. When her husband lost his job and they lost their house, no way she can collect SS because she wasn't working all along. That doesn't seem fair. They are being penalized for being middle class back then, now they are broke and there's no help for them. They can't get any kind of govt. help, just had to move in with relatives. Well, they do get food stamps. the husband finally took a crappy job way beneath his abilities. Relatives now want them out. I really don't see any chance of them getting govt. housing or anything like that. They are just part of the working poor now.
Doesn't a doctor have to testify you have a disease? If so, why does SS argue it? Maybe someone claiming to have pain that really can't be proved? I don't get it.
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All they have to do is find a shrink who will say they have some kind of mental/emotional disturbance that prevents them from having or keeping a job.
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01/16/2015 06:53 AM
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Re: How to live off the government - without having a ton of children (Or even one child!)
I know alot of leeches personally

They are all flawed, i wouldnt want to trade
They all seem to have social problems, or cant keep themselves or their bbelongings clean
They either smell or wear dirty clothing
They sleep most of the day so usually lazy
I knew a guy that leeched who couldnt be bothered trashing the garbage, he had one room stacked with full garbage bags

End of the day im not mad, i tell them enjoy life, dont work!

They will live long, and most will reproduce, have kids. All that free time is good for a love life.

i work a shit job, most of the time tired and stressed. I smoke a pack a day. I will be suprised if i pass 30 :p.

So power to you guys. I wish i was dealt the same hand lol.

Back to my slave trade
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Re: How to live off the government - without having a ton of children (Or even one child!)
I left my husband of 7 yrs because he will not work, He went everything for free, so he went to a homeless shelter for 3 months, Went to concealing, Now the shelter put him up in a new apartment, Good will furniture for his apartment, a cell phone for free, 200.00 in food stamps per month, payed water,light,and gas. and all the bus passes he needs. Now he laughs at me and says, you work your ass for your apartment etc. and I kick back and let the shelter take care of me, I still do not have to work so how you like those apples, He can work and he is not disable at all. What a joke. Unbelievable. Texas.
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Ha! My ex-husband is exactly the same way. Only, he was able to get 1,500 in SSDI payments and I have to give him 500 per month in court-ordered alimony because he is allegedly disabled, we were married for almost 20 years and during the time we were together, I earned two college degrees and started a teaching career. I worked two part-time jobs while working on my BA and then taught school full time while working part-time on my MA. He did nothing most of the time or did driving jobs where he could sit on his butt. Now, he gets 2,000 per month tax free and still whines that he cant get by very well. In the mean-while, I am looking for a second job so I can make up the difference in alimony, pay our accumulated debts and have a few dollars in my pocket because I can barely get by on my salary.....

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