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A good Technical Report of the Chinese J-20 Stealth Fighter Prototype | |
| lim
Offer Upgrade  User ID: 1156409  United States01/13/2011 10:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.ausairpower.net] Some scary shit! `Any notion that an F-35 Joint Strike Fighter or F/A-18E/F Super Hornet will be capable of competing against this Chengdu design in air combat, let alone penetrate airspace defended by this fighter, would be simply absurd. The F-35 Joint Strike Fighter and F/A-18E/F Super Hornet are both aerodynamically and kinematically quite inferior to the as presented J-XX/J-20 design, and even the shape based VLO capability in the J-XX/J-20, as presented, will effectively neutralise any sensor advantage either type might possess against earlier Russian and Chinese fighter designs.'  For what will it profit men that a more prudent distribution and use of riches make it possible for them to gain even the whole world, if thereby they suffer the loss of their own souls? |
| lim
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 772012  Canada01/13/2011 11:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unless the Skunk Works designed it for them I don't see how they leapfrog from never having the leading first line fighter design to having the leading 6th generation fighter design. What they could possibly do is use what Stalin said in that quantity has a quality all its own. After all our air superiority fighter fleet is in the order of what a Finland should have. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 772012 Canada01/13/2011 11:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.ausairpower.net] Quoting: limSome scary shit! `Any notion that an F-35 Joint Strike Fighter or F/A-18E/F Super Hornet will be capable of competing against this Chengdu design in air combat, let alone penetrate airspace defended by this fighter, would be simply absurd. The F-35 Joint Strike Fighter and F/A-18E/F Super Hornet are both aerodynamically and kinematically quite inferior to the as presented J-XX/J-20 design, and even the shape based VLO capability in the J-XX/J-20, as presented, will effectively neutralise any sensor advantage either type might possess against earlier Russian and Chinese fighter designs.' The invisible Chinese rickshaw is ginormous. I doubt it's stealth capabilities. Stealth Doom fails |
| Thoughtful_Hobbit
User ID: 1085489 United States01/13/2011 11:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.ausairpower.net] Quoting: limSome scary shit! `Any notion that an F-35 Joint Strike Fighter or F/A-18E/F Super Hornet will be capable of competing against this Chengdu design in air combat, let alone penetrate airspace defended by this fighter, would be simply absurd. The F-35 Joint Strike Fighter and F/A-18E/F Super Hornet are both aerodynamically and kinematically quite inferior to the as presented J-XX/J-20 design, and even the shape based VLO capability in the J-XX/J-20, as presented, will effectively neutralise any sensor advantage either type might possess against earlier Russian and Chinese fighter designs.' ausairpower lol yeah right. "when bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle." -- Edmund Burke "My relative went to Jihad and all he got was Hellfire!" "It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." –- Samuel Adams "Are all the women in New Zealand this hot? I might have to move to the world of hobbits." :THobbit: :THBomb: |
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| TheBadger
User ID: 1229330 Canada01/13/2011 11:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unless the Skunk Works designed it for them I don't see how they leapfrog from never having the leading first line fighter design to having the leading 6th generation fighter design. I agree, if it is for real then the tech was stolen. It does not appear to be a 5th gen. airplane. The jet exhaust does not give all-aspect stealth. Canards in general limit stealth characteristics. I can't tell if there is thrust vectoring or not from the pics. I doubt the Chinese have developed the radar and sensor suite of the F22. Unless that was the deal for buying all that US debt. |
| Nikki_LaVey
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| Burt Gummer
User ID: 989406 United States01/13/2011 11:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.ausairpower.net] Quoting: limSome scary shit! `Any notion that an F-35 Joint Strike Fighter or F/A-18E/F Super Hornet will be capable of competing against this Chengdu design in air combat, let alone penetrate airspace defended by this fighter, would be simply absurd. The F-35 Joint Strike Fighter and F/A-18E/F Super Hornet are both aerodynamically and kinematically quite inferior to the as presented J-XX/J-20 design, and even the shape based VLO capability in the J-XX/J-20, as presented, will effectively neutralise any sensor advantage either type might possess against earlier Russian and Chinese fighter designs.' Another stolen set of plans from the USA. The Chinese RIP EVERYTHING OFF...and invent nothing. “WIKI” STYLE ESPIONAGE LANDS $300 BILLION DOLLAR SUPER-PLANE PLANS "On April 21, 2009, the Department of Defense announced the theft of 1.5 terabytes of data on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, the platform meant give the United States and her allies air superiority for the next 40 years. In a flash, all that was gone, $300 billion dollars of funding down the drain, every system, defense, offense, stealth, everything needed to build one or shoot it down, all gone. Day one, China was accused..." [link to redactednews.blogspot.com]  |
| dookie stain User ID: 907535 United States01/14/2011 12:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1232011  Australia01/16/2011 09:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This new fighter is like a stealthed supercruising MiG 31, with super maneuvorability. It's interesting that at the moment the T50 and J20 both are concerned with forward stealth, unlike the the f22 that is a much more offensive platform. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 883744 United States01/16/2011 09:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.ausairpower.net] Quoting: Burt GummerSome scary shit! `Any notion that an F-35 Joint Strike Fighter or F/A-18E/F Super Hornet will be capable of competing against this Chengdu design in air combat, let alone penetrate airspace defended by this fighter, would be simply absurd. The F-35 Joint Strike Fighter and F/A-18E/F Super Hornet are both aerodynamically and kinematically quite inferior to the as presented J-XX/J-20 design, and even the shape based VLO capability in the J-XX/J-20, as presented, will effectively neutralise any sensor advantage either type might possess against earlier Russian and Chinese fighter designs.' Another stolen set of plans from the USA. The Chinese RIP EVERYTHING OFF...and invent nothing. “WIKI” STYLE ESPIONAGE LANDS $300 BILLION DOLLAR SUPER-PLANE PLANS "On April 21, 2009, the Department of Defense announced the theft of 1.5 terabytes of data on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, the platform meant give the United States and her allies air superiority for the next 40 years. In a flash, all that was gone, $300 billion dollars of funding down the drain, every system, defense, offense, stealth, everything needed to build one or shoot it down, all gone. Day one, China was accused..." [link to redactednews.blogspot.com] :cicero: Stolen??? Frak! Bill Clinton GAVE it to them, along with missile and nuclear tech and the Gods themselves only know what else. How do you think he financed his campaigns? Bill Clinton: The best president Chinese money could buy! |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1231979 United States01/16/2011 09:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Another stolen set of plans from the USA. Quoting: Burt GummerThe Chinese RIP EVERYTHING OFF...and invent nothing. “WIKI” STYLE ESPIONAGE LANDS $300 BILLION DOLLAR SUPER-PLANE PLANS "On April 21, 2009, the Department of Defense announced the theft of 1.5 terabytes of data on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, the platform meant give the United States and her allies air superiority for the next 40 years. In a flash, all that was gone, $300 billion dollars of funding down the drain, every system, defense, offense, stealth, everything needed to build one or shoot it down, all gone. Day one, China was accused..." [link to redactednews.blogspot.com] :cicero: It's all part of the game, dude. Countries have been stealing each others secret war toy plans since the invention of the rock, probably. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1149148 United States01/16/2011 09:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | soooo suddenly they make giant leap from POS planes they were flying before to this turkey?  Another quality product coming from Peoples Republic ?  pitiful It's a flying tin can , F-18 would blow it out of the g@d dang sky, and I dont wanna think how f22 or f35 would make it their b@atch It's a TROJAN HORSE people , just a PR stunt of the chinese commie leadership, they playing games , there is purpose of this plane and its not to fly They wrote Art of War , they are trying to play us!!  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1232011 Australia01/16/2011 09:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's all part of the game, dude. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1231979Countries have been stealing each others secret war toy plans since the invention of the rock, probably. Very true. The j20 is still in development, which means that what we are seeing is what we are allowed to see. The offshoot of this is that there is a real need for the f22, in the sense that it's the only fighter that could go head to head with it. ....or am I being suckered into thinking that the j20 is more than what it is... in which case, is this "release" meant to stimulate more defense spending. |
