Everything happens, at the right time, and not before

my sense is that the universe and all that is in it is alive, connected and communicating. Some pictures from hubble telescope look exactly like pictures of the neuron in the human brain. interesting. As above so below. rken

I just wanted to create a space with a more spiritual bent than the thread we were on and not side track it.

My understanding is that we are here to experience something other than self. In order to do this we must create a separation in ourself. A forgetfulness. A veil. It would seem at times this veil is less and almost non-existent and at other time in history it is total and complete. I believe this happens in cycles. My sense is we are at the ending of a dark cycle. forgetfulness. It would seem that this has to do with cycles in the universe. Energies coming into the planet. rken


I hope I did not sidetrack your other thread!!!

The energies coming into this planet and the galaxy as a whole, is the moving into the age of Aquarius...The symbol for Aquarius is a man pouring ether`s...

The galaxy is indeed a grand design...By moving from age to age is forced change, to induce spiritual progression...

my sense is that the universe and all that is in it is alive, connected and communicating. Some pictures from hubble telescope look exactly like pictures of the neuron in the human brain. interesting. As above so below. rken


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This is the rabbit hole that I have been exploring. Not to take away from your thread rken, but, if you want please check out some of my threads:

Are we just now starting to remember? Dr Velikovsky and Cultural Amnesia Thread: ***Are we just now starting to remember? Dr Velikovsky and Cultural Amnesia***

What is consciousness? . . . What is energy and Maxwell's equations have to do with it? Thread: *******What is consciousness? . . . What is energy and Maxwell's equations have to do with it? ***


...and it all began because of Xenus' Petroglyph thread Thread: Petroglyphs, not just simple, crude drawings from ancient man. The truth is stranger then you could ever imagine.

You asked me one time to talk about the simultaneous experience... Would you like to get into it here!!


It's totally up to rken and you


Rken approves!!!

I guess the best place to start is to ask the question - Is anyone familiar with Matrix 5...

SWT, I know you encountered a forum discussing this at one time...Have you followed it up!!!

Not at all. I just think that the info on that thread is important and you know how some people get when you bring in spiritual things into the conversation.

The rest of your statement I agree with totally. It would appear that there is a group that doesn't want to change. We know what happens in our personal life when we resist change. First we get a gentle nudge, then a lite push, and soon we find ourselves getting blasted. I have learned to pay attention to the nudge. It would seem that at each point in our progress we are given what we need to take the next step. There are those who do not want to take that step and it appears to be creating discord. But probably as you have said it is right where it needs to be. perfectly rken

Not at all. I just think that the info on that thread is important and you know how some people get when you bring in spiritual things into the conversation.

The rest of your statement I agree with totally. It would appear that there is a group that doesn't want to change. We know what happens in our personal life when we resist change. First we get a gentle nudge, then a lite push, and soon we find ourselves getting blasted. I have learned to pay attention to the nudge. It would seem that at each point in our progress we are given what we need to take the next step. There are those who do not want to take that step and it appears to be creating discord. But probably as you have said it is right where it needs to be. perfectly rken


The nudge comes from your higher self, soul, god, or whatever term you wish to use...It has the plan for your incarnation, and you will achieve the goal...

Have you ever noticed - When you get into areas that are not intended for you, nothing goes your way...When you get into areas that are intended for you, the synchronicity happens, and the roadblocks fall, one by one...

"You and I have memories longer than the road that stretches out ahead.

You and me chasing rainbows riding so slow on our way back home, we're going home." Moody Blues

rken

Yes, and you pointed me to the source. I read the material about Matrix 5 (the crib notes, so to speak) but never started reading the actual material.

If I recall, the original discussion I encountered was looking at "us vs. them" (tptb vs. the rest of us) and the theory was that they remembered their sequential incarnations, giving "them" a perceived advantage over us. The jist of it was that we are experiencing our incarnations simultaneously and are therefore able to experience so much more than those who must incarnate sequentially.

Does that sound right? (It has been a little while.)

Yes, and you pointed me to the source. I read the material about Matrix 5 (the crib notes, so to speak) but never started reading the actual material.

If I recall, the original discussion I encountered was looking at "us vs. them" (tptb vs. the rest of us) and the theory was that they remembered their sequential incarnations, giving "them" a perceived advantage over us. The jist of it was that we are experiencing our incarnations simultaneously and are therefore able to experience so much more than those who must incarnate sequentially.

Does that sound right? (It has been a little while.)


Yes, this is a simultaneous based planet...Where one higher self can incarnate many bodies, simultaneously, in different time periods, cultures, gender, and in a variety settings...

It is also the graduation path, out of this galaxy, and on to new experiences...If the higher self chooses, this planet to be the last stop...

The us vs. them is more of a spiritual battle for balance, rather then gaining a victory on 3rd density...And true balance can only be gained by direct participation in a variety of situations, simultaneously...It is the combined flow of input into the higher self...

Something that cannot be achieved, by incarnating sequentially, one at a time...

How do you think this relates to the idea that we (or some of us) might have lived the exact same life before?

I suppose that would depend on how the one higher self is connected and communicating among its different aspects ...

How do you think this relates to the idea that we (or some of us) might have lived the exact same life before?

I suppose that would depend on how the one higher self is connected and communicating among its different aspects ...


Not sure what you mean by the exact same life...

In either simultaneous or sequential, there would not be the exact same life...That would defeat, gaining experiences in the galaxy...However from my understanding, there are alternate dimensions...These are similar experiences, with different twists and turns on the path...

Yes - the exact same life thing is my sticking point, and what you say makes much more sense.

See, I get the feeling sometimes - due to experiences I've had - that I've done all of this before, exactly like this.

I'm always trying to make sense of it, but nothing fits except the simulation argument.

It could be that you are sensing, you in an alternate dimension...The experiences would be similar, with some different forks in the road chosen...At least that is my interpretation...

Your higher self ties this together, to bring you to where you need to be...

As far as 'graduation' goes ... what if the higher self does not choose that this planet is the last stop? Is there a reincarnation or something else, in your understanding?

Thank you!

If the higher self is experiencing the simultaneous path, and has not chosen this planet as the graduation point...Then it will begin again new, on the next simultaneous designated planet...

There is only ONE simultaneously designated planet in the galaxy at a time...A higher self must take the simultaneous experience to graduate, and the choice to graduate must be made prior to incarnating...This is why some incarnation`s, are highly driven with path specific goals...

Are all simultaneous planets basically similar or could they be wildly different?


Thanks again.

I've been getting more and more frequent confirmations of this.

We are beginning to remember.

My understanding is that we are here to experience something other than self. In order to do this we must create a separation in ourself. A forgetfulness. A veil. It would seem at times this veil is less and almost non-existent and at other time in history it is total and complete. I believe this happens in cycles. My sense is we are at the ending of a dark cycle. forgetfulness. It would seem that this has to do with cycles in the universe. Energies coming into the planet. rken

My understanding is that we are here to experience something other than self. In order to do this we must create a separation in ourself. A forgetfulness. A veil. It would seem at times this veil is less and almost non-existent and at other time in history it is total and complete. I believe this happens in cycles. My sense is we are at the ending of a dark cycle. forgetfulness. It would seem that this has to do with cycles in the universe. Energies coming into the planet. rken


Makes sense. Why can't we have teachers talking like this.

"Everything happens, at the right time, and not before"

The weird thing about it all is, that it's all happening simultaneously. Since obviously; time does not exist.

yep, tried pushing the river more than once. lol just made me tired. rken OUT