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Who was Thomas Troward?

Thomas Troward was Her Majesty's Assistant Commissioner and later Divisional Judge of the North Indian Punjab from 1869 until his retirement in 1896. It is this later period for which he is best remembered and most celebrated; in it he was at last able to devote himself to his great interest in metaphysical and esoteric studies.

The most notable results were a few small volumes that have had a profound effect on the development of spiritual metaphysics, in particular that of the the New Thought Movement, of which the teaching known as Science of Mind is Troward's most direct legacy. He was a much influential figure in the development of Ernest Holmes' Religious Science/Science of Mind organization due to the impact his philosophy had on Holmes, and Troward's teachings are regularly taught in Science of Mind classes.

Thomas Troward was born in Punjab, India, in 1847 of British parents, Albany and Frederica Troward. His father was a full colonel in the Indian Army. He was brought back to England to attend school and in 1865, at the age of 18, he graduated from college with gold medal honors in literature. He then decided to study Law, although at heart he always considered himself an artist and a painter.

At age 22, in 1869, he returned to India and took the difficult Indian Civil Service Examination. One of the subjects was metaphysics and Troward surprised everyone with his answers because of their originality. He became an assistant commissioner and was quickly promoted to Divisional Judge in the Punjab, where he served for the next 25 years.

In India, he married his first wife. Together, they had three children. He married a second time after his first wife died and had three more children. His second wife, Sarah Ann, helped in the publishing of his works after his death. In the forward to a publication entitled, Troward's Comments On The Psalms, Annie Troward writes: "When he retired from the Bengal Civil Service in 1896, he decided to devote himself to three objects -- the study of the Bible, writing his books, and painting pictures... He believed that the solution to all our problems was there (in the Bible) for those who read and meditated with minds at one with its Inspirer."

Troward's favorite hobby was painting. He had won several prizes for art in India. After he retired from Civil Service, he returned to England in 1902, at the age of 55, intending to devote himself to his painting, as well as writing. He had already thoroughly digested all of the sacred books of the oriental religions and they had certainly influenced his spiritual ideas. It is said that at one time a vision came to him about the development of a system of philosophy that gave peace of mind and the practical results of physical health and happiness to the individual.

People described him as a kind and understanding man, simple and natural in manner, but personally boring as a speaker. He was considered a very precise and proper Englishman. His two daughters were born of his second wife and he was fond of playing practical jokes with his family. While in India, he learned the language of the country. He studied all of the bibles of the world, including the Koran, Hindu scriptures and books of Raja Yoga. His studies in original Hebrew provided the foundation for his book, Bible Mystery and Bible Meaning.

Shortly after returning to England, Troward begin to write for the New Thought Expressions publication. He had already developed, in some detail, his philosophy of Mental Science when he was accidentally introduced to the "Higher Thought Center" of London through a Mrs. Alice Callow, who happened to meet him in a London tea room. This group immediately recognized him as an extremely articulate and learned individual. He was invited to give a series of lectures and in 1904 delivered his famous Edinburgh lectures at Queens Gate in Edinburgh, Scotland. These lectures were given to a very small but appreciative group of persons. However, it is said that even this captive, willing audience hardly understood what he was saying.

Still, Troward’s genius did not go unrecognized. The philosopher William James characterized Troward’s Edinburgh Lectures on Mental Science as "far and away the ablest statement of philosophy I have met, beautiful in its sustained clearness of thought and style, a really classic statement."

His writing is a combination of intuitive oriental mysticism filtered into a Western pedantic writing style. It is said that reading Troward is difficult. Actually, if we read Troward slowly and deliberately we will discover that he is very clear and concise. The secret of understanding Troward is to understand his major premises, then how he logically argues from those premises. This is typical of the Western legal mind.

Troward was a major influence on the works of Ernest Holmes, Frederick Bailes, Joseph Murphy and Emmett Fox, and has been quoted by numerous other writers.

It must be remembered in reading Troward that he was a product of his time. His books use scientific jargon that was present around 1900. He was raised in the Church of England and had read the Bible daily from boyhood. Therefore, his books, especially Bible Mystery and Bible Meaning have a clear Christian bent.

On May 16, 1916, at the age of 69, Thomas Troward passed from this plane. He will be recognized in history as a contributing influence to Religious Science, the New Thought Movement in the United States and Great Britain, and also, to some extent, to the more liberal ideas of the Church of England.

I always considered those things part of humanity, not divinity.

I am not familiar enough with them yet the little I came across had been not-that-much-corresponding with the Bible. Be cautious there.

Divinity is part of humanity, yet overlooked by many. Humanity is barbaric by nature & without a balance of divinity we would have killed ourselves out of existence.
Much like we are trying to do today,....

You really are infernal mr.infernal.

So time to destroy your dog and pony show.

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Now sit down watch and then repent of your blasphemy and heresy.
Oh and stop rocking the boat or I will throw you into the sea.

Nobody else knew only 1/4 of the earth was 'inhabitable'. The area below covers every place man can live. The woe, woe, woe is for the inhabitants of the earth.

Re.6:8
And I looked,
and behold a pale horse:
and his name that sat on him was Death,
and Hell followed with him.
And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth,
to kill with sword,
and with hunger,
and with death,
and with the beasts of the earth.

Jer.25:26
And all the kings of the north,
far and near,
one with another,
and all the kingdoms of the world,
which are upon the face of the earth:
and the king of Sheshach shall drink after them.
Jer.25:27
Therefore thou shalt say unto them,
Thus saith the LORD of hosts,
the God of Israel;
Drink ye,
and be drunken,
and spue,
and fall,
and rise no more,
because of the sword which I will send among you.
Jer.25:28
And it shall be,
if they refuse to take the cup at thine hand to drink,
then shalt thou say unto them,
Thus saith the LORD of hosts;
Ye shall certainly drink.
Jer.25:29
For,
lo,
I begin to bring evil on the city which is called by my name,
and should ye be utterly unpunished?
Ye shall not be unpunished:
for I will call for a sword upon all the inhabitants of the earth,
saith the LORD of hosts.

The POV at this link is ....... interesting to say the least.
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Indeed, I do try to use "caution"........and I can tell you also: That the Phoenix Journals are also NOT written in perfection........for any time Man is involved, you are going to get mistakes!

However, that said; I will tell you this: From reading the Journals, my family not only witnessed a Light Being, and was given the cure for Cancer, as well as our financial woes.......but I myself was brought back from death as a result of the High Energy crystalline structure that we were given!

So I highly recommend that you look into them........:)

Greed and the like are learned behaviors, as such they can be unlearned.
Without God we are a product of a lucky strike by an off world object that just happened to kill off the 'competition'.
Lucky in like what are the odds of lightening striking twice in the same place?


Eventually we will experience something like the fate below so to survive we have to leave before the sun goes nova.

Isa.51:6
Lift up your eyes to the heavens,
and look upon the earth beneath:
for the heavens shall vanish away like smoke,
and the earth shall wax old like a garment,
and they that dwell therein shall die in like manner:
but my salvation shall be for ever,
and my righteousness shall not be abolished.

A personal story- and why i believe the expression, draw closer to god and he/she will draw closer to you.

Went thru a horrendous divorce in mid-twenties...confused,bruised,battered, young son etc...
spent copious time on my knees....

Met a nice girl in her early twenties... I was a Manager of Nightclub/restaurant...she was head waitress...

She was obviously attracted to me, but I didnt nor was i sure about her...she had a young son (2yrs)...

Before i say what im about to say, just know that I am as sound, lucid and logical a person as one would ever know.

Ok, she was walking around the restaurant and a voice in my head said, "there she is, do you want to be happy the rest of your life"?-

I was like WTH??...has never happened before or since....

Ok..gets better...so, at the time, Im going to an Episcopal church meeting in a HUGE highschool auditorium...she is attending the service with me. Im still confused as to whether SHE Is the one.... On this specific Sunday, she turns into the row of seats and i tell her to move down so there i can leave the ailse seat EMPTY...

Half way thru the service a woman comes in sits down..Had never seen this woman before..EVER.. she is paying NO attention to the service AT ALL...i watch her as she fidgets with her purse as she pulls out a (NEW) bible. She opens it. Still not paying attention to the service... She opens the bible hightlights a section and turns to me and hands me the bible with this scripture hightlighted...

Ecclesiates 4: 9-12:
Two are better than one,

because they have a good return for their work:

10 If one falls down,

his friend can help him up.

But pity the man who falls

and has no one to help him up!

11 Also, if two lie down together, they will keep warm.

But how can one keep warm alone?

12 Though one may be overpowered,

two can defend themselves.

A cord of three strands is not quickly broken

so i read it and hand it back to her, (shocked) and she gestures to give it to my soon to be wife!...so I do...
then hand it back to her, she puts it back into her purse, gets up and leaves the service....

...never saw her before nor after that experience...

Married the girl...five kids twenty five years later...BLISS!!

James 4:8

8 Draw near to God, and he will draw near to you.

Amen brother!!!

the creator talks to me regularly. but there's none of the judgment and condemnation ye hear from bible thumpers. just love and acceptance. he/she will offer advice if asked (usually), but he/she does not care if i take the advice or not. it has always worked out better for me if i took the advice.

Cool story. I've never had such a moment.

Alien propaganda!!! But, the sword of the spirit is significant in understanding this control device of financial manipulation, woven throughout the bible...

The only redemption/salvation you can gain from interpreting the bible correctly, is financial...Your soul/spirit knows what it is doing, and does not need to follow the bible or any religious works, to know it is immortal, and the only harm that can come, is to the body...

Romulus, I had a lot of experiences like that when I was in the Mormon Church.........does that make the Mormon Church true?

thanks D, I still cannot believe it happened...Im 53years old and it is the ONLY time..Ive heard a "VOICE"-- lol-- or had a complete stranger highlight a book and hand it to me....

hence my defense of -- THE GOOD BOOK!! as at the time, my ONLY friend was- GREAT MYSTERY-

The problem is Romulus: Each of us has the potential of projecting "holographic images".......some like to see ghosts, some like to see Angels. It is entirely possible to project other people........we do it all time........unfortunately, most of us don't realize that we are doing it!

Never-the-less, it doesn't make the experience any less valid!!! So I honor you for your participation with God Source!!! :)

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Please Share your stories....

As My Grandmother (fathers side) was a Mormon, my great great grandfather had three wives...I lived in Salt lake city in my youth...LOVELY CITY...

Ive read extensively about Joseph Smith. And at the end of the day, I believe the Mormon faith does GOOD for the most part... please dont make the seque over to Mormanism as my hands are full as it is on this thread...hahahahah...

oh, one more thing...LOVE THE CHOIRS...and I remember my dad arguing with his Mother back in the early sixties as to why the mormon church doesnt/didnt allow blacks!!! ouch...Father NOT Mormon...I was raised Lutheran...

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religion hinders the experience of a god.

uh..."holographic images"-- if your are referring to the dual nature or bicameral breakdown of our brain ..and the objective/subjective aspect to it. I can by that...as in we all have the capacity to subjective believe and see something that is NOT REALITY...however, we DO NOT have the

potential to project holographic images....I submit you ar watching too much sci-fi...just a thought

Let me ask you a question Romulus: How do you think Jesus could change water to wine........or even walk on water for that matter?

This is a picture show that we are experiencing in(of reflected Light)......and the Master Himself taught me that one........Hollywood had nothing to do with it! :)

Forgive me for NOT going into my Mormon experiences at this time.......maybe in another thread someday? At this time, I don't wish to vary from the subject of "Scriptures" that the OP has presented.

But I will say this: The Mormon Church was, and is; an Illuminati creation..........not withstanding, I have still seen God work His magic through those dark halls! So my point is: Does God use Lucifer's tools for His own purposes at times?........and I think the answer is YES! lol

1. How do i think jesus could change water into wine?

Answer: Because he was "GOD INCARNATE"

2. Or even walk on water for that matter?

Answer: See above answer

"This is a picture show that we are experience in of reflected light"

No, we are oscillating light (vibrations) and scienctists have proven that our consciousness has the ability to move the wave particle to material particle by our conscious desire at the smallest units of matter, BUT there has to be structure to life or there could be no Life i.e. objectivity, physical,material and there is also spirit,invisible,subject,conscious....i.e. metaphysics...

Your debate/reality or tenents seem to be imbalanced and leaning towards the subjective side.... stick with the golden ratio....life is about reconciling the opposites..

good/bad right/wrong hot/cold male/female 1/0 up/down

just a thought..

UTTER POPPYCOCK!!!! The Mormon Church was founded by a man whose childhood was so marked by suffering it would make your skin curdle (Joseph Smith) He was born into abject poverty and almost died several times in childhood.....in his youth, the people in his community used to be "stone seers" and joseph eventually found the golden tablets...he was also a student of the bible.... .... go read...

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Well that would be one way, if it were true.......but it isn't! How do I know this? Because there are others who can also do this changing thing(including myself).....and WE are NOT Gods either!!! He said we would do "greater works", did He not?


Light does NOT vibrate: Light is at rest! The illusion of it's vibration comes from our EMOTIONS(energy in motion).......but for all practical purposes; yes we can say that Light vibrates......but it isn't actually accurate.......regardless of what the scientist's will tell you! lol

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Well, THAT'S the official story FROM THEM........but it's hardly accurate! :(

Joseph joined the Masonic Order some ten years after he started the Mormon Church........even he admits to that! :(

"A woman/man convinced against their will is of the same opinion still"

so you can change water into wine, but you cant share your mormon stories...ok...that makes sense...NOT!!

enjoy your weekend...

Whose boat is he rocking, yours or gods?

If gods boat can be rocked by a mere human, then he isn't much of god?

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If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!

Romulus, I didn't say that I change water into wine.......you misunderstand me! In my specific case, I am changing water into something else........which I don't think it is appropriate to go into at this time! However, the real question should be: Why aren't YOU doing it???

And yes, I CAN share my Mormon stories with you, I simply choose not to, at this time........please don't hold me at fault for that!



P.S. I don't expect you to believe me.....it's OK: But some day you will come to know that I have offered you Truth here this day!!! peace to you, as well!

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