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Anonymous Coward User ID: 878407 United States 12/26/2010 05:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | pretty much, im tryng to escaps the religion now, the only thing that keeps me hanging on is fear. Quoting: ajkFor God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind - 2 Timothy 1:7. yeah great but this proves my point, its a mind fuck, this verse is telling you if you arent christian you should "fear" cant u see that? It's also a contradiction, cause note this from Proverbs 9:10 The fear of the LORD [is] the beginning of wisdom and the knowledge of the holy [is] understanding. exactly, its a huge big old ugly mindfuck, its fear posing as love. In ppain english te meme is this, we are born fucked up, god wants to send us to hell or terminate our concious, so to get us to love him so he wont send us to hell, he sends himself to cure his own wrath... Its ridiculously fucked up and unhealthy. They send people to12 step programs for this type of self repricating thought. |
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User ID: 1114631 United States 12/26/2010 06:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | pretty much, im tryng to escaps the religion now, the only thing that keeps me hanging on is fear. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 878407For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind - 2 Timothy 1:7. yeah great but this proves my point, its a mind fuck, this verse is telling you if you arent christian you should "fear" cant u see that? It's also a contradiction, cause note this from Proverbs 9:10 The fear of the LORD [is] the beginning of wisdom and the knowledge of the holy [is] understanding. exactly, its a huge big old ugly mindfuck, its fear posing as love. In ppain english te meme is this, we are born fucked up, god wants to send us to hell or terminate our concious, so to get us to love him so he wont send us to hell, he sends himself to cure his own wrath... Its ridiculously fucked up and unhealthy. They send people to12 step programs for this type of self repricating thought. It is and really what loving parent would say to their kids: "Do it my way, or you die" How can one freely choose to do things a certain way, if they are threatened with death if they don't. They can't. Religion is really the perfect mind control mechanism, you got the promise of heaven if you do things their way, and the threat of damnation if you don't. That's to say nothing of the division it causes, as people argue who's right instead of attacking those oppressing them. It's a win win thing, control our minds and divide us so we don't come after them. No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds. Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God. If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government "Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn "This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll "If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy." |
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User ID: 1114631 United States 12/26/2010 06:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | @ ajk Quoting: Anonymous Coward 878407Hey whats up, yeah i mean the whole thing right now is i believe in a creator but not at all in the judeo way, its hard to describe, but its just like naturual, like this it, love while you can, dont fear, free the mind, to the point where i dont even like the word god, like lets disattach ourselves from descriptive fantasy and look at what is in front of us. Yeah you almost can't put a word on an unlimited being can you? This is the thing too, as to why God or the Creator or however you wanna call him, will respond to you where you are and as you are. If you believe in Jesus for example He may come to you as that, cause He knows you won't accept Him any other way you know? No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds. Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God. If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government "Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn "This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll "If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 878407 United States 12/26/2010 06:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As far as judeo christian islam, Its just like ok. These certain people are self depricating and miserable, so they thought lets make everybody else self depricating and miserable. And we all bought the storyline like a bunch of chumps. Im at the poinf where i can see the wonder of creation in the clouds and its beautiful, and its also a mystery, but thats whats cool, its a fuckin mystery, i dont need this whole line of bullshit to feel that feeling. And ya, the mind is powerful, whatever idea we have of perfection, and we pray or meditate on it, of course we are going to think its jesus or allah or shiva or buddah. Its all in the mind. |
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User ID: 1114631 United States 12/26/2010 06:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And about the kids of course, religous always use that line, well you have to punish your kids...Yeah but i woulsnt kill my kids for disobeying my rules...and that is exactly what god does in the old testament, its ridicuosly offensive. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 878407Nor would you turn them away if they came back to you contritely, no matter what they did. Yet the God of the Bible does. If He's more loving then we, there's no way He's like that. No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds. Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God. If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government "Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn "This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll "If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy." |
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User ID: 1114631 United States 12/26/2010 06:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As far as judeo christian islam, Its just like ok. These certain people are self depricating and miserable, so they thought lets make everybody else self depricating and miserable. And we all bought the storyline like a bunch of chumps. Im at the poinf where i can see the wonder of creation in the clouds and its beautiful, and its also a mystery, but thats whats cool, its a fuckin mystery, i dont need this whole line of bullshit to feel that feeling. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 878407And ya, the mind is powerful, whatever idea we have of perfection, and we pray or meditate on it, of course we are going to think its jesus or allah or shiva or buddah. Its all in the mind. Yeah as I said you can see and feel God everywhere you go, don't need any religion for that. Religion simply exists to keep our spiritual levels down and away from the real truth. If we knew the real truth and learned to simply love as the real God intended, the masters wouldn't have any power over us anymore. Right in the mind and in the programming. We have to get away from preconceived notions as to what the truth is before we can ever see it. That can be very hard however for so many, hence why many will come against you for daring to think the Bible is not the word of God. Last Edited by ajk on 12/26/2010 06:19 AM No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds. Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God. If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government "Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn "This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll "If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy." |
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Light Guard User ID: 1207436 New Zealand 12/26/2010 06:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | pretty much, im tryng to escaps the religion now, the only thing that keeps me hanging on is fear. Quoting: ajkBeing someone who only recently myself let go of this religion, I can totally understand what you're saying. It is not an easy thing, and sometimes I still have doubts myself. But when it gets hard, ask yourself this: At the end of the day, is the Christian God loving or is He not? Is it loving to turn one's back on a sinner having humbled himself before you having seen you? Would you if you had a kid do that? Would you punish them forever on top of it? Is it loving to punish ALL of us for sins we never even committed at all, and make us bear the brunt of mistakes others made long before us, if not for a blood sacrifice (Jesus)? These are just a couple examples, bottom line is, you know these things aren't loving, you wouldn't be doubting if you didn't. If you know it, wouldn't you think God knows it too? Further, remember that God cannot be contained by any one religion or book, to be as such He would cease to be unlimited. God is everywhere around us, no one belief system can have God strictly for itself. Hope that helps. Yup, God, whatever or whoever God is, is love. To me God is a "different dimension" of our existence. We are all One, Everything is One. How can you be happy if one of your loved ones would be in hell? That is NOT love. That is threatening people so they choose to become religious. |
Light Guard User ID: 1207436 New Zealand 12/26/2010 06:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe that HAARP is killing the ET/living UFOs that are proof of existence beyond what we've been told for manipulative/control reasons. I had a close encounter in 2008 and I'm sure they meant no harm, BUT they were proof of the lies of organised religions and corrupt governments. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 878407 United States 12/26/2010 06:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WHats messed up is nowadays they try to cover the fear part up, they pose as love buf when you leave the fear comes out, its classic mind control cult shit, and its all up in the new testament, jesus said the world was going to end, paul said the world was going to end, revelafion is about the end of the world...its all about death, about not taling responsobility fpr your life. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 878407 United States 12/26/2010 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe that HAARP is killing the ET/living UFOs that are proof of existence beyond what we've been told for manipulative/control reasons. Quoting: Light Guard 1207436I had a close encounter in 2008 and I'm sure they meant no harm, BUT they were proof of the lies of organised religions and corrupt governments. they have to defend the power structure |
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Malachi User ID: 1165792 United States 12/28/2010 10:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Once you are in hell, you can never get out. Now is the time to repent from your sins and be saved! Mark 9:44 "Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched." Quoting: Malachi 1165792Malachi The above was meant to be a kind warning. There is time now to get saved now. Malachi |
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User ID: 1227615 United States 01/16/2011 08:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you dont do what "God" wants you are going to hell... Quoting: S'gan-LeviYou poor thing. You don't know the true God then. You believe in some other "god". Thats not the God I know. Youre from Isreal? Holy crap? are you aware that isreal is owned by Jews for Jesus? I bet youre one of them, arent you? Dont deny it, I know about that Isreal is owned by christians conspiracy. it ranks up there with area 51. Do not believe something because you have heard it, do not believe something because it is spoken and rumored by many, do not believe something because it is written in holy text, do not believe something because wise men taught it, instead, believe what stands up to reason, and live up to it. ____Buddha Im not prejudiced, I hate everybody equally W.C. Fields |
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User ID: 1232815 United Kingdom 01/16/2011 10:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fear of The Lord has it's place in the scheme of things... Job 28:28 And unto man he said, Behold, the fear of the Lord, that [is] wisdom; and to depart from evil [is] understanding. Psa 111:10 The fear of the LORD [is] the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do [his commandments]: his praise endureth for ever. Pro 1:7 The fear of the LORD [is] the beginning of knowledge: [but] fools despise wisdom and instruction. Pro 9:10 The fear of the LORD [is] the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy [is] understanding. Pro 15:33 The fear of the LORD [is] the instruction of wisdom; and before honour [is] humility. Isa 11:2 And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD; Isa 33:6 And wisdom and knowledge shall be the stability of thy times, [and] strength of salvation: the fear of the LORD [is] his treasure. Last Edited by Judeth on 01/16/2011 10:31 PM |
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