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If UFO's are observing in "secret" then why........

 
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If UFO's are observing in "secret" then why........
are they so well illuminated?
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Re: If UFO's are observing in "secret" then why........
simple: because they want us to see them and they aren't allowed to "jump in" and officially make themselves known because of a retarded treaty our leaders signed with evil aliens decades ago.
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Re: If UFO's are observing in "secret" then why........
simple: because they want us to see them and they aren't allowed to "jump in" and officially make themselves known because of a retarded treaty our leaders signed with evil aliens decades ago.
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See I was looking for a response with real information not fantasy, but thanks anyway.
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Re: If UFO's are observing in "secret" then why........
are they so well illuminated?
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there light is an effect of their propulsion system on our Atmosphere
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Re: If UFO's are observing in "secret" then why........
are they so well illuminated?

there light is an effect of their propulsion system on our Atmosphere
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I considered that, but unless they are using a wholly external propulsion system then it would not create such illuminations.
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Re: If UFO's are observing in "secret" then why........
So as not to have mid-air collisions. It would be against FAA regulations.
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So as not to have mid-air collisions. It would be against FAA regulations.
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LMAO! It is sweet of them to observe our regulations.
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Re: If UFO's are observing in "secret" then why........
simple: because they want us to see them and they aren't allowed to "jump in" and officially make themselves known because of a retarded treaty our leaders signed with evil aliens decades ago.

See I was looking for a response with real information not fantasy, but thanks anyway.
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not fantasy, its common sense.
they sit in the sky for hours or seconds with weird lights, they fly over our heads with weird light - obviously they want us to see them.
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Re: If UFO's are observing in "secret" then why........
simple: because they want us to see them and they aren't allowed to "jump in" and officially make themselves known because of a retarded treaty our leaders signed with evil aliens decades ago.

See I was looking for a response with real information not fantasy, but thanks anyway.


not fantasy, its common sense.
they sit in the sky for hours or seconds with weird lights, they fly over our heads with weird light - obviously they want us to see them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1151630

I was referring to the "retarded treaty".
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Re: If UFO's are observing in "secret" then why........
Speculation: Perhaps they are slowly revealing their "secret" to the population leading up to an an appointed time of "revealing"
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Re: If UFO's are observing in "secret" then why........
They are travelling in merkabahs, orbs of light.

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Speculation: Perhaps they are slowly revealing their "secret" to the population leading up to an an appointed time of "revealing"
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That is possible, interesting.
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Re: If UFO's are observing in "secret" then why........
They are travelling in merkabahs, orbs of light.
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Any "orbs of light" are more likely to be a magnetic or energy phenomena and not a UFO or vehicle for transport.
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Re: If UFO's are observing in "secret" then why........
simple: because they want us to see them and they aren't allowed to "jump in" and officially make themselves known because of a retarded treaty our leaders signed with evil aliens decades ago.

See I was looking for a response with real information not fantasy, but thanks anyway.


not fantasy, its common sense.
they sit in the sky for hours or seconds with weird lights, they fly over our heads with weird light - obviously they want us to see them.

I was referring to the "retarded treaty".
 Quoting: NeoFist



read this:

Oct 13-14 UFOs and 2012

I have been asked to comment on what I thought about the Transcendors, as well as Stan Fulham's prediction of ufos showing up in mass over major cities. There are a few red flags, which come up for me despite doing the happy dance that the issue is finally hitting the mainstream press. One we have to remember Werner Von Braun's warning eloquently repeated by Carole Rossin. The cold war, Iraq, Iran, terrorists, false flag events like 911, pandemics, economic collapses are all used to keep the masses in fear by the banking, oil, pharmaceutical and war industries. These industries control mainstream media. According to Carole the next manufactured threat will be a mock ET invasion with the use of project blue beam, holographic images of ufos and masters along with other back engineered vehicles from the Secret Space Fleet uncovered by Gary McKinnon. Gary should get a medal not a jail sentence he is a true hero within the UFO community; which should fully get behind him.
That being said we have to use extreme discernment concerning any new appearances of UFOs being considered a threat, invasion scenarios and demonization of all UFOs. We also need to be aware that although the vast majority of off world visitors are benevolent not all ETs have our best interest at heart and some can be self serving with no respect for humanity. These low level contacts have happened in the past, deals were made, trades for technology if they could do human experimentation. This did not go over to well, agreements were broken and governments got a crash course in discernment. There was the option of aligning with the benevolent off worlders yet the leadership of the time did not exercise that option due to the terms. The terms were we needed to end our warlike aggressive nature and get rid of the nuclear weapons if they were to give us any new technologies. This agreement was given to all sides in the cold war.

This next understanding is crucial in understanding off world visitors. The mind in which you seek is the mind in which you connect. You will also frame events according to your reference points and beliefs. Another point is we magnetize people and events to us according to our consciousness. These two points are critical in determining the truth in any situation. A military mindset will see anything they cannot understand, control or dominate as a threat. Beings and ships that can come and go as they wish, impervious to any of our weapons and technology are deemed a threat. The military will do anything to get their hands on these technologies to use them in the war industry because whoever has the best technology in war usually win. The faster, stronger, more destructive the technology the better. The fearful or victims will see off world visitors also as a threat. The religious will see them as demons or angels depending on the branch and the local ministers take on thin gs. The Catholic Church has said UFOs are not to be demonized and Billy Graham calls them Gods other angels. Some Catholic priests have said it only adds to the glory of God, others say they are without original sin and some say they will have no problem baptizing them if they do come. It is my opinion when dealing with a highly evolved race of beings we should not be so arrogant as to think they need us. Especially when they have transcended all material lack, disease, war, cultural and religious boundaries. There are also the Pollyanna's who believe all off world visitors are loving, friendly and have no agenda other than to beam us up and play checkers while the Earth goes through its tribulations having to do nothing on their part to rise to the occasion and be the solution. The everyday citizen according to the poles believe UFOs exist, there is life on other planets and would love to know more. This is their lucky day.

For those who want to know more and move beyond all the disinformation, Hollywood hype, overactive imaginations and hear from experience this message is for you. There are low level contacts, a hybrid program going on for quite some time. This is where the abductions scenarios are coming from. These are the greys and reptilian factions in cahoots with rouge elements in our military and they control the central government through the major corporations. The rites and rituals performed by the illuminati or the N.W.O. New World Order, which controls the corporations, are to draw to and align themselves with these groups and other demonic forces. They lust for power and wealth, dominion over all and have sold their souls becoming puppets for these seen and unseen entities. Some in their own twisted way believe if they can create Armageddon this will force Jesus to come and save the world acting contrary to all his teachings.

The evidence is overwhelming concerning these groups and events. There are those who will scream we work for the cabal for saying there are negative ETs out there yet these very entities work hand and hand with the cabal some knowing and some due to lack of discernment unknowing. The Pollyanna approach can be a form of cognitive dissonance refusal to accept any reality other than ones own where no amount of truth can change ones mind. Then as we said there are those who knowingly work for the very ones they are pointing the finger at. The information concerning UFOs is almost totally controlled even in the UFO community other than a very small minority who have maintained their integrity.

The time is up on Earth for these negative factions. The days of the tyrants and controllers are coming to and end. Any last ditch efforts; false flag operations and mock ET invasions will just insure and quicken their demise. The Earth is evolving, she is moving beyond the frequency of these energies as well as expressions of these energies. This is why the hybrid program was going on. The greys cannot make the shift without our genetics and emotions. They experiment physically, mentally and emotionally and have a long history of not telling the truth. When I hear information coming from the greys this brings up a big red flag whereas discernment is in order.
Another red flag is the carbon emissions and global warming; carbon taxing. We should call this climate change not global warming because according to all the latest statistics the planet is cooling. We need to clean up our land, air and water, stop burning fossil fuels, which are in truth abiotic and plentiful. They need to be replaced with green energy and fueless energy, which has been held back and suppressed by the elite for over 70 years. The nuclear waste is also something that needs to be addressed. There are fueless energy generators that can run the turbins to generate all the electricity we need. There are suppressed off grid technologies as well.
The geo-engineering, aerosol spraying, "Chemtrails" are not cooling down the planet they are creating a toxic mess with carcinogens and biologicals designed to eliminate much of the population. They are creating an environment suitable for the negative factions and many scientists are duped into thinking it is for the greater good. There also are the bought scientists knowingly lying to the public. Spraying aluminum, barium, strontium, and a host of other deadly chemicals and biologicals are not for the greater good and are in fact warming the planet to bring on even more severe Earth Changes. The air, water and land are becoming unsuitable for life and there are even those creating GMO crops to live in these unnatural and poisonous environments knowing they will have the monopoly.

There is manufactured lack and reckless greed controlling the oil. The gulf spill and other spills, tanker and pipeline disasters to numerous to mention show a long history of greed and profit without any respect for the environment or human life. The oil companies and other corporations own by contribution the majority of politicians, the government and all regulatory agencies. The greed and corruption is monumental. By the people and for the people had been replaced by a dictorial corporate democracy with profit at the expense of humanity and the Earth as the modes operandi. They own the mainstream media a good example of which is the Gulf. The water is 150 times more toxic than necessary to kill all the sea life in some areas yet they say it is now safe to swim in and eat the fish? The oil just mysteriously disappeared. Out of sight, out of the media, out of mind. The air, the water, and the fish are deadly and people are experiencing the side effects mostly unreported by the press. These are the ways of the beast and they are unsustainable, genocidal and without soul or spirit. By their fruits you will know them, a man's or corporations actions define their character and these major corporations are responsible for the pandemics, environmental disasters, the poisoning of the air, land and water. They are responsible for the manufactured lack, poverty, and the unbridled greed causing so many to loose their homes and assets. They are the war and disease profiteers now controlling the government. It is all coming to a head.

These international banksters, war and disease profiteers need war and disease, they need a threat to stay in business. They are the creators of these threats. Don't be distracted by false flag operations, manufactured terrorists, future pandemics look at the root cause and source of these problems. When the media is pointing fingers at these dire events there are three fingers pointing back at them and their corporate sponsors.
The last major red flag is predictions as though it will be business and usual and putting off contact until some later date far into the future. Contact is happening NOW. It has been going on since time began. Your ancient history is replete with contact. It is recorded in your ancient texts, religious texts, hieroglyphs and petro glyphs. Who do you think designed and built the pyramids around the world? The oldest trick in the book is to keep you looking back into the past or in some far off distant future. Contact is happening NOW. Between now and 2012 it will not be business as usual and there are those who know this and have prepared for it in massive underground facilities. They actually believe they are going to surface after most of humanity is wiped out and again rule the world. There is no bunker that will save them from themselves, their karma and the fact that they have not risen to the new Earth frequencies. One crack in their facilities and they will be like dro wned rats. The cracks are coming.

There are off world visitors coming to Earth. There are beings here, which love humanity deeply and have always been here observing, inspiring warning and praying humanity would awaken, turn away from its aggressive destructive ways. There are those who have been rooted here for quite some time, self- serving factions interfering in Earth's evolution who care nothing for the people or the environment. There are those who are willing participants doing their bidding. They will sell their souls, the health and well being of their families and neighbors for those little green pieces of paper. This is the real threat and it is about to be removed.
The scepter has been passed. The Pleiadians as the main group along with other spiritually and technologically benevolent Star Nations are now taking over. There is the Orion Council of Light, Andromedans, Some Sirians, Arcturians and a few others coming to assist Earth in her transition. The Pleiadians established the colonies of Atlantis and Lemuria therefore there is a karmic as well as genetic connection. In other words lets not call them ETs how about the greater family of man. The Earth's history as far as humans roaming and colonizing the Earth go back as far as 600 million years. There are artifacts, which have established this. Many on the Earth are more from the stars than from Earth in their souls and they are being activated, awakened to their mission and their higher nature. If you often gaze at the stars, especially a certain constellation odds are you have family there. If you doodle triangles and odd geometry this is another sign. If you feel like you never re ally fit in, find the greed and aggression here on Earth as well as the destruction of the environment nonsensical and appalling odds are you got the genetic downgrade and are more off world in your soul and with some genetically than from Earth. If you are service oriented into healing and awakening others odds are you came from the heavens. Actually our souls all came from the same source and return to the same source despite all the cultural and religious programs we run on Earth but that is another book in itself.

Now is the time to no longer serve the beast, wake up. A new world is coming, the old world is collapsing. It is unsustainable within the new frequencies. Your entire solar system is entering a new place in the universe, which is highly charged. You are entering an alignment with galactic plane. There is a large body coming your way, which you need to prepare for. Let the old world collapse, remove yourself and stop contributing to the old world. It is beyond restructuring or repair, unsustainable, and corrupt beyond measure. Learn to live in harmony with each other and nature. Living a thoroughly loving joyous abundant life is your god given right. Nature is abundant. Live according to the universal law, universal principles such as Brother/Sisterly Love, Universal Peace, Individual Freedom and Prosperity for all. Anything else will hinder you from making the shift. We know there will always be those who want to continue living a life of denial, they ignore all the signs, d ismiss this as fear mongering, unspiritual despite a long history of accuracy and 28 years of warnings concerning the times that are unfolding. That is their right. Their world may not unfold as they have planned for Nature has a different plan but as eternal souls they will come around again and have a second chance in a new body. Hopefully as better listeners.
Pass this far and wide, you have our permission.

James Gilliland www.eceti.org
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Re: If UFO's are observing in "secret" then why........
Any "orbs of light" are more likely to be a magnetic or energy phenomena and not a UFO or vehicle for transport.
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Exactly. Its an electric, magnetic and energetic phenomena that highly evolved beings supposedly use, by manipulating their energy field around their body.

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Re: If UFO's are observing in "secret" then why........
are they so well illuminated?

there light is an effect of their propulsion system on our Atmosphere

I considered that, but unless they are using a wholly external propulsion system then it would not create such illuminations.
 Quoting: NeoFist


A pulsating spherical ball of light. The light appears bluish to a yellow green glow. The light it casts is not extremely bright but will cast light on objects immediately surrounding the orb. Typically there is more than 1 orbs gathered. They have the ability to hover and make no noise. There appears to be no physical shape supporting these orbs. A characteristic feature is that they will pulsate their light intensity for a matter of seconds growing extremely bright, and then fading away to nothing as if the object simply vanished. Apparently these have been witnessed during the day but are more visible at night. Have been seen transforming into other animal shapes and is suspected of having the ability to transmorph into the shape of local living animals. Can affect other electrical objects and knocked out the power to the ranch house. Shift between a visible and invisible state as they pulsate on and off.

These are intelligent and purposeful like in nature. I suspect they are some sort of transportation vehicles for another intelligence or the drones for this intelligence. They have a role of observing. They are unique in that they appear almost curious about any humans they come across. They seem to easily detect your presence, and may be influenced by meditative thoughts/requests. I believe their function is to observe, report, and to transport either consciousness, or actual entities within them, as if some form of vessel. This is the most interactive of all the anomalies on the ranch and will pursue and entertain its viewers.
The flash drones tend to take on a more interactive role if the observer is alone. Possess the ability to generate a state of uncontrollable "panic" in those targeted, Witnessed working in groups in a predator/prey fashion. The sensation of being hit by one is described as being hit by a high velocity warm water balloon. The after effects of which immediately evaporate away. However a state of depression typically follows lasting for days to weeks.

Although speculative, the light may only travel in a light-off configuration. When the light is visible, the object appears stationary, however it disappears, only to reappear in a different location. This postulates that the light may possibly be "phasing" in and out from one location to the next.

Artificial or biological like intelligence. Potentially an animal like intelligence.
The light radiated is seen in a 180 degree manner and does not cast light behind

Source - [link to www.skinwalkerranch.org]

Also see...


The UK ministry of Defence said the following about these balls of Plasma/Light UFO's...

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Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) in the UK Air Defence Region

The Ministry of Defence has released this report in response to a Freedom of Information request and we are pleased to now make it available to a wider audience via the MOD Freedom of Information Publication Scheme. Where indicated information is withheld in accordance with Section 26 (Defence), Section 27 (International Relations) and Section 40 (Personal Information) of the Freedom of Information Act 2000.

[link to www.mod.uk]

That Unidentified Arial Phenomenon (UAP or UFO) Exist is indisputable. Credited with the ability to hover, land, take off, accelerate to astonishing velocities and vanish. They can reportedly alter their direction of flight suddenly and clearly can exhibit acrodynamic characteristics well beyond those of any known aircraft or missle - either manned or unmanned.

The Conditions for the initial formation and sustaining what apparently bouyant charged masses (of Plasma), which can form, seperate, merge, hover climp, dive, and accelerate are not completly understood.

Dependant on a colour's temprature and aerosol density, it may be seen visually, either by it self generated plasma color, by reflected light, or silhouette by light blockage and background contrast.

Occationally and perhaps exeptionally, it seems a field with, undetermined characteristics can exist between certain charged bouyant objects in loose formation, the intervening space between them forms an area, viewed as a shape, often Triangular, from which the reflection of light does not occur. This is a key finding in the attribution of what have frequently been called black "Craft", often triangular and up to hundreds of feet in length.
- The UK Ministry of Defence
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Re: If UFO's are observing in "secret" then why........
They are travelling in merkabahs, orbs of light.

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Bingo!





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