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Neuronics: The future of humanity (Humanity without physicality)

 
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So much to say, so little time.
Perspective changes once you see more, and I can tell you that working with neuronics is very solid. It helps if your brain works a little differently for it all to make sense, luckily for us Chaolit's we get a much more hinsightful perspective on things.

Obviously not on anything at all other than mother love.
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Ha ha! "Chaolits".

You bring up a point that I have noticed lately. I have been "into" this area of investigation for a long, long time. I read a children's version of the Egyptian Book of the Dead when I was 12 years old! I was always the odd one, seeing things VERY differently.

After five years of Chaolism, however, I speak with old acquaintances on these subjects and I don't know what they're talking about. There are people who still ask about Bigfoot and "aliens". I just...

I'm sure they don't know what I am talking about either, but that has always been the case with me so I'm used to it. Still, I am a little bit dumbfounded by those who supposedly are a bit advanced, but who don't recognize that they're in an entirely different world now. They're just not keeping up. I can make the simplest statement that is obvious to me ("the entire universe is right here, right now"), while the other person will stare at me with lack of comprehension.

I am not trying to display superior knowledge. It is not that at all. It is that there are many others who claim to be "awake" who are stuck in some 1990's version of the New Age. I can barely speak with them now, and this is probably not a good thing.
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I understand, strange how we are expected to fit in.

How can I describe to a little old lady that under my provable logic and beliefs she can actually teleport to anywhere she wants using the spoken voice! Magick, or language...bit of both?
I'm fairly sure they would attempt to put me into a mental institution haha, no joke.

Speaking just causes confusion, I find just leaving them to it and speaking with those who god sends my way who show potential to handle the knowledge, no one else seems to care about chasing their creators or exploring the bounds of their perspective...shame, luckily your all here ;D & Chaol of course, our humble teacher/destroyer/humanitarian
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With only 10% of our bodies being human and 90% being microbes and bacteria and such, what is it that identifies itself as "I"? What is it that motivates all of these trillions of cells to call themselves, in concert, "me"?

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Good question ;)

Basically, we are not human.

"I" includes all these other life forms.

We think their thoughts and feel their feelings along with "ours".

The cells do not think of themcells as a single entity any more than your mouth does.

Your mouth has its own genome and would be considered 'conscious' but would not say "I" or "me".

Those terms (I, me) are our own ideas or interpretation of reality.

We perceive that which is most relative to us and say ."that is me".

The cells realize it is part of another whole (YOU) as much as realize that you are.

After becoming non-physical, what then happens to the "I"? Will there still be an "I"? A "me"?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1172732


You are already non-physical.

Physicality does not actually exist.
 Quoting: Chaol

"Are you a self? Are you sure? I believe that nobody in this room ever was or had a self.

How would it feel to you to discover that you really had no self?" - Thomas Metzinger

The transparent avatar in your brain: Thomas Metzinger at TEDxBarcelona
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Also:

Thomas Metzinger
The Ego Tunnel: The Science of the Mind and the Myth of the Self
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No just neurotic fun times a head.
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Has anyone tried simply jusy saying 3 random neuronicons a day?

For a while the process rocked and changed my world, new and exciting things were happening every single day.

Do not over complicate Neuronics.

KISS!
Keep
It
Simple
Stupid (although I dislike the word, it holds true for many individuals).
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Xo
Hey! The other week the EC icons began to play in a slide show, I thought to my self, surely that's a nice way to learn, just watching them on repeat for a certain amount of time per day? Are people still doing this?
I see some results on the low, I don't say a great deal either, trust me. But what's happening? More is needed to evolve.
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Xo
Hey! The other week the EC icons began to play in a slide show, I thought to my self, surely that's a nice way to learn, just watching them on repeat for a certain amount of time per day? Are people still doing this?
I see some results on the low, I don't say a great deal either, trust me. But what's happening? More is needed to evolve.
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Chaom's new book is simplifying things. It will be out soon. Also, from what he says, I think EC won't be the same. Watch for a pdf of it in the main thread...mid-Feb or so.
"We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka
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Xo
Hey! The other week the EC icons began to play in a slide show, I thought to my self, surely that's a nice way to learn, just watching them on repeat for a certain amount of time per day? Are people still doing this?
I see some results on the low, I don't say a great deal either, trust me. But what's happening? More is needed to evolve.
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Chaom's new book is simplifying things. It will be out soon. Also, from what he says, I think EC won't be the same. Watch for a pdf of it in the main thread...mid-Feb or so.
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The watcher is the one who wins :) X
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I think this is for AI, but that still makes it interesting and perhaps useful. Start out by choosing a Dataset, which includes a spiral!(?) You can count the iterations at the top, which will calculate a learning rate.

Tinker With a Neural Network Right Here in Your Browser
[link to playground.tensorflow.org]
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The watcher is the one who wins :) X
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There is no watcher. There is no observer.
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This is how I interpreted it:

Glass jar = this plane of experience. A container.
Mud = the biological body and the body of Earth.
Lightning bolt = me. Intelligence.

My only question about the vision was: where did the lightning come from? Guess I should meditate on that question.
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Could the lightning be what happens when you combine the glass jar with the mud?
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This is what Chaol was talking about:

Coding Teaches You to Think Differently
[link to futurism.com (secure)]

The video is by a computer science teacher who explains the different mental processes necessary to code. There are more and more people beating this gong lately, especially with the rise of cryptocurrencies, which, ultimately, are nothing more than coded software.

I see Chaol's world on the horizon now. It's fingers are creeping into and merging bit-by-bit with the old reality.
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More on "The Geometry of Relationships"

[link to ecsys.org]

Imagine a field of lines like in the blue graphic from the link above.

Each shape is a perspective or reality.

Each shape is comprised of other shapes. And each shape has a different relationship with every other shape.

Now imagine that another shape is born in the middle. This shape gets bigger and bigger and other shapes allow it to.

This growing shape can be thought of as an important event.

The more the event affects realities the greater the gravity of the event.

The event, thus, changes all the relationships around it because it changes the form of the other shapes.

Take 9/11, for example.

How were so many people around the world able to predict (see, envision, sense, whatever) this event before it happened?

The "shape" of 9/11 was massive. It still is. The shape affected our realities before the physical event.

This geometry of relationships precedes physicality
because it actually is the physical experience.
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Hi chaol,

With the EC characters when you have a collective string to produce the desired outcome,

does the outputs of one character flow as an input of the next and so on to the end similar to transistor logic?
or
are the outputs independent of them selves and the total collective of outputs produce the outcome similar to a logic gate?

Thanks
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Hi.

When used as mental computers or for programming, each icon is like a logic gate to serve as an instruction (We can also network them together.) The outputs of an icon do not affect the input of the one previous.

When used for translation, each icon is like a definition. There are standard definitions and also you can have your own personal definition. (For example, if how you value a certain word or concept is different from the standard.)
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Checking the chaol threads every day. I'd sure like to hook up with you guys, but I really have no clue where to start with the language. Will try the genius advice though!
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Just try one word, and see how it works for you.

Start with a feeling or concept that you'd like to bring closer to your perspective.

Pick one of the following that you think best describes it: Symbol, Interaction, Logic, Possibility

(We'll make this the input, and make it strong for ease of use)

Now pick a second one from the same list (Symbol, Interaction, Logic, Possibility)

(We'll make this the output, and make it neutral)

Now check the following graphic and see what your input and output would look like: [link to ecsys.org]

Draw it on a piece of paper. Be sure to include the box position if it is right next to a box.

Now see this chart: [link to ecsys.org]

Make note of the icon that corresponds to your concept/feeling.

You can stick with one icon or, for better results, use two.

Practice saying the new sound or phrase and thinking of it when you think of this concept/feeling.

Notice when others say it, too, or when you hear it.

Say it to others, also, and use it in everyday language.

You've mapped the concept to your perspective, and that is one of the ways that Ec works.

Our perspective is like a complex language that interacts endlessly. We can insert our own 'words' into this complexity in order to manipulate our own reality.

Eventually (in more advanced uses) you can form your entire reality this way.
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Tuuur, do you have the images that go with this?
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[snips]
It is because of language that we can perceive.



And feel, and think, etc.

Some science behind this: [link to www.physorg.com] and [link to www.cs.indiana.edu] etc

Simply put, as related to this... Learn the language of X and you can perceive much more of what X perceives.
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Something that is bothering me about these scientific articles regarding perception is the assumption that there is something "out there" whose photons or light rays or whatever are entering the eye and then being re-interpreted by the brain.

It is my experience, that it is the other way around. That what we see inside is projected outside of ourselves and then observed and translated.

OP, you have already stated that there is no physical, so you know what I am getting at. It is all inside.

(also, I am aware that fundamentally there is no "inside" or "outside". But, you know what I am referring to. Guess it is a perspective, eh?
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Huh?? Seeing inside projected outside? wtf that even means??
It's not an assumption you wacko, photons do exist outside of you and do hit your retina, that's not an "assumption" it's a FACT, that's why GLASSES exisst, you DUMB, jesus Christ, are you a troll or playing dumb?
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In the alternate Earth where I am from, we use something called neuronics.

Neuronics is a way to influence neurons and other cells in the human body to change what you experience.

Any cell in a biological body can become a neuron, and any cell in the body can thus be influenced using neuronics.

It is like your electronics here, where devices are 'powered by neuronics'.

Read more at [link to ecsys.org]

In the electric field surrounding each cell there is 15 million volts of energy per meter, approximately 500% more than a bolt of lightning. (See [link to www.technologyreview.com] )

You use electronic devices to influence electrons in particular ways, and so we have devices that influence neurons.

You have televisions, alarm clocks, robots, computers, and other devices. We have an array of similar devices that we use to change our reality.

Most of you would call such technology teleportation, materialization/dematerialization, time-shifting and time travel, etc. We're not changing anything physically by using these devices, just changing perception.

(There is no physicality.)

Many of us in my world live non-physically. That is to say, we are not bound by physical constraints.

In this world, you're moving quickly towards this point.

Neuronics is one way to live as a human, but not live in a human body. (Strangely enough, your body is not human. It's more than 90% microbes.)

[note: re-edited per [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] ]
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There is no such thing as "alternate earth" and you CHAOL is a troll and a shill, pushing a new age agenda. I know where you are coming from.
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I SNIFF MY OWN POOP -- I AM A RETARD is the one who wins :) X
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There is no watcher. There is no observer.
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If a room is empty, then of course no watcher and no observer exists there. Shill :D
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What did one neuron say to the other?

"Neutral interaction neutral logic. Low symbol low possibility + neutral symbol low interaction + neutral symbol neutral logic. Neutral symbol high possibility + high symbol neutral interaction."

Hehe :)
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What did one neuron say to the other?

"Neutral interaction neutral logic. Low symbol low possibility + neutral symbol low interaction + neutral symbol neutral logic. Neutral symbol high possibility + high symbol neutral interaction."

Hehe :)
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In the alternate Earth where I am from, we use something called neuronics.

Neuronics is a way to influence neurons and other cells in the human body to change what you experience.

Any cell in a biological body can become a neuron, and any cell in the body can thus be influenced using neuronics.

It is like your electronics here, where devices are 'powered by neuronics'.

Read more at [link to ecsys.org]

In the electric field surrounding each cell there is 15 million volts of energy per meter, approximately 500% more than a bolt of lightning. (See [link to www.technologyreview.com] )

You use electronic devices to influence electrons in particular ways, and so we have devices that influence neurons.

You have televisions, alarm clocks, robots, computers, and other devices. We have an array of similar devices that we use to change our reality.

Most of you would call such technology teleportation, materialization/dematerialization, time-shifting and time travel, etc. We're not changing anything physically by using these devices, just changing perception.

(There is no physicality.)

Many of us in my world live non-physically. That is to say, we are not bound by physical constraints.

In this world, you're moving quickly towards this point.

Neuronics is one way to live as a human, but not live in a human body. (Strangely enough, your body is not human. It's more than 90% microbes.)

[note: re-edited per [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] ]
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Nazi shill
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Oh, boy. This is going to be quite entertaining!

Grab the popcorn.
video 7: <<The Easy Way to Become Psychic and Experience Flow>> [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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??? Are you hear for v3?
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In Neuronics, it is taught that relationships between the elements should be explored in a clockwise manner.

Following this instruction,
compounded with the guidance in reference to the acceptable extent of neuroniconic definition per statement in the EC language,
beginning at the first neuronicon +SS and moving clockwise such that,
of all possible inputs or outputs,
each should be referenced exactly one time,
The alpha code is derived:

+SS, -S+I, I-I, +PP, -P+L, L-L

By choice "deaf"
to pronunciation cues: A K Et Mu Ta Alu

Deriving a 6 digit code begins with selecting a Neuronicon and following the clockwise reference modality as described. At 5 digits, the terminal neuronicon of the sequence is fixed. At 4 digits, the sequence allows for 6 variations.

An alpha code can be derived for any Neuronicon. It will always have 6 digits. A 4 digit sequence, in the tutorial recommended as a maximum length of definition, will always allows 6 variations for the penultimate and terminal neuronicon in the sequence.

These 6 variations appear as 3 sets of mirror opposites for each variation of the 4th in the sequence,
where it is allowed to variate,
of 15 variations allowed,
to a total of 90 possibilities allowed for a 3 digit sequence,
accounting for every variation of the the 4th, 5th and 6th neuronicon in sequence.

Variating the 3rd allows for 28 variations, totaling 2,520 possibilities.
Variating the 2nd allows for 45 variations, totaling 113,400 possibilities.

Variating the 1st,
or,
Selecting a neuronicon,
Allows for 66 variations, totaling, 7,484,400 possibilities.
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The Tutorial Alpha code demonstrates a property common to the alpha code of any neuronicon.

As follows:

A K Et Mu Ta Alu

K A Et Mu Ta Alu

Et A K Mu Ta Alu

Mu A K Et Ta Alu

Ta A K Et Mu Alu

Alu A K Et Mu Ta


Following the clockwise reference modality, any of the neuronicons in the tutorial alpha code can be selected to derive all the same neuronicons, in much the same order (beyond the direct adjustment of reselection). The same 6 neuronicons will always "make room" for each other harmonically.
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The Tutorial Alpha Codex

-Taking for stem the first input +S which is used in 11 neuronicons, producing a list of 11 alpha codes for the codex.

(1)
+SS, -S+I, I-I, +PP, -P+L, L-L
[A_K_ET_MU_TA_ALU]

(2)
+S-S, S+I, I-I, +PP, -P+L, L-L
[AH_G_ET_MU_TA_ALU]

(3)
+S+I, S-S, I-I, +PP, -P+L, L-L
[U_EH_ET_MU_TA_ALU]

(4)
+SI, S-S, +I-I, +PP, -P+L, L-L
[OO_EH_UR_MU_TA_ALU]

(5)
+S-I, S-S, +II, +PP, -P+L, L-L
[OH_EH_AY_MU_TA_ALU]

(6)
+S+P, S-S, +II, -IP, -P+L, L-L
[EA_EH_AY_CH_TA_ALU]

(7)
+SP, S-S, +II, -I+P, -P+L, L-L
[B_EH_AY_J_TA_ALU]

(8)
+S-P, S-S, +II, -I+P, P+L. L-L
[M_EH_AY_J_SUMI_ALU]

(9)
+S+L, S-S, +II, -I+P, P-P, L-L
[T_EH_AY_J_WU_ALU]

(10)
+SL, S-S, +II, -I+P, P-P, +L-L
[TH_EH_AY_J_WU_SHE]

(11)
+S-L, S-S, +II, -I+P, P-P, +LL
[&#358;H_EH_AY_J_WU_WHY]
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When we focus more on the message than where it comes from then there is understanding.

The source can rarely be pinpointed. The message is much more obvious.
 Quoting: Chaol


The effects of first use.

Funny what might be called a puzzle of perceptual geometric iconography that these eyes discovered a pattern of reconstructing an infographic printed elsewhere.

It might be here!
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Perception is based on language. Thinking is based on language. A soundless language or picture language has the added ability for faster communication/Perception/thinking and therefore a new experience.
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 Quoting: Chaolle 9296869


[snip]

Use an electron microscope, get an electron.

[snip]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1131464


Exactly!

The result we see is the interaction between one thing (an electron microscope) and an other thing (something that is probably not an "electron" but only appears to be when we use the tool).

If we used an other instrument it would interact differently and appear to be something else entirely!

Using a hand to interact with a flower is not the same experience as using our nose. The two experiences would be given two different names and not appear to be the same thing.

If we did not have another sense (sight) to provide more information to our perceptions we would probably give two different names to each experience.

When we invent the paralleloscope we will discover parallelographs (which could actually be the same thing as the electron).
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[link to www.paralleloscope.com (secure)]

[link to www.studiopsk.com (secure)]





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