Neuronics: The future of humanity (Humanity without physicality)

So this brings up a question for me.

1) Is this true also with food? Is our consumption of the physical property of food mean our neurons are becoming the property of food?

The reason I ask is I had a feeling about this about a year ago. So, I set out to wean myself off food. I got to where I was okay with one vegetarian meal per week. Finally, I went longer without food but eventually got in trouble. I had trouble with my bones. So, I've been eating (and finally had to add meat) and the bones are almost back to where they were.

Now that I'm better, I've been cutting back to one meal per day with a smoothie for dinner and some kind of snack for breakfast. My plan is to go vegetarian again as soon as I can.

In the past, when I fasted, it was great so that's why I'm trying to adapt my lifestyle the way I am. I just haven't figured out what works best for me yet.

Edit: 2) And are we really talking about physical or is it actually more dense? I thought somewhere it was said things aren't physical, they are perception.

Any comments? Thanks.

Last Edited by ERE3 on 11/04/2012 04:31 PM

Hi.

1) Yes. As you relate the food with you, so do you 'become' the food.

2) Perception is physical. There is no perception that is not physical.

So is it a good idea to limit what we eat if our goal is to perceive X? And since perceptions are physical, is food even a factor in perceiving X?

Last Edited by ERE3 on 11/05/2012 04:51 AM

It seems, according to the rules of the game, that if you state as a goal that you want to perceive X (I'm not sure what this is), then you are affirming that currently, you can't perceive X, which reinforces not perceiving it. Technically, it is all around you so you can currently begin to see clues and signs of it that lead you to perceiving it. Whatever it means to you, just notice everything you see, feel, hear, perceive that would be a characteristic of X (its meaning to you) so that it becomes a stronger part of yourself. For food, you could use it by finding something exotic that is supposed to add value to yourself in some way that increases your ability to do what you desire. Food is a tool like anything else.

You would not intentionally limit it. It would just be indirectly limited through the conditions that you then find yourself in as a 'result' of having a new perspective.

For example, you suddenly become allergic to a certain vegetable. Or meat makes you feel sluggish. Or you become wealthier and can now afford better foods, etc.

Yes, food is a factor. But still a value in your perspective, like anything else.

It would be more that you're creating a symbol with your intention in mind.

Stating a goal does not really have value other than defining it for yourself, which allows you to perceive it more.

Creating a symbol is a way of defining your less-relative perspective (your "goal") and letting it interact with your more-relative ("current") perspective.

OK, that makes sense. Thank you.

I've been wondering about synchronicity. Thanks.

I started writing about this on the "dreamworld meeting" thread, but I am moving it over here because it fits better here.

I am having the most remarkable results with writing strings of neuronicons to describe a state I want.

I wrote one for easy wealth. I wanted to perceive an availability of money with a no-big-deal sort of attitude towards it. It is just there if I want it.

The next day, a pizza delivery man asked me about my broken-down car. She is in good condition and a desirable car, but she stopped running and I have not been very motivated to fix her up. I told the man that I would be willing to sell her and quoted a price. He said that he would come back with the money. I said "okay" and then forgot all about it. After all, I had pizza!

Two days later, he knocked on my door with a wad of cash in his hand. I gave him the title to my car and he then hauled it away. It was all over with in half an hour!

Now, THIS was easy and totally unexpected.

I had to make one modification to my string of neuronicons, however. I had added the idea that nobody would cheat me or steal my money. Apparently, this was taking it too far, because the next day, I had two relatives hit me up for a handout! They declared that they knew I had money and that I somehow or other owed it to them. This is totally false! It was the neuronicon talking!

I removed the offending aspect, and, today, those two relatives act like nothing happened!

Guys! I cannot stress how easy and effective this is.

Heck yeah, once you have pizza, what else would you need, heh! j/k That was cool how you changed the string and the next day the relatives acted like nothing happened!!! I love it!!!

Do you speak the strings out loud too, or just think them? Also, if you don't mind sharing, what kind of things are you using the strings for besides money? The reason I'm asking is I have a recurring theme in my life. Instead of trying to catch that thought all the time, it would be nice to replace it with Ec whenever it comes up. Do you think that would be effective?


Well, the website is down. Anyone interested in starting a thread on teaching Ec?????

Last Edited by ERE3 on 01/24/2013 09:52 PM

FYI: Some of us who follow Chaol, do some behind the scenes things at times. So, if you want to be included, you need to be in contact via email with some of us.

Either join GLP for a month and PM some of us or, I guess, post an email address here, where we can contact you.

You will know if you are included because a private email (or PM) has gone out today to all those who are in contact with one another.

If you missed out, then it's up to you to figure out a way to be a part of it. You are definitely invited.

Just to note that the EC string was not about "money", per se, but rather about a perception I prefer in regards to the ease with which resources are avaiable to me. When one realizes that one can "manifest" anything that one desires, then money becomes less relevant. The "old" reality had people scrambling their entire lives in order to acquire a coin, while ignoring and corrupting things that were innocent and beautiful. IMHO, that is.

I have been using the string to release myself more and more from that old perspective. So, yes, I repeat the sounds and clearly imagine the icon string whenever I find myself slipping into the old habit of stressing over bills and income and such other related perceptions. Those belong to another era. I don't have to drag them along with me to this new dream.

I have several strings going for various ideas I have. I have been practicing "thinking" in EC, which certainly shows me a different world. I also seem to be much more lucid in my dreams.

Which raises a question I have: does dream self speak in EC? Is this the language used by dream self?

One other item I would like to make note of: so far, I observe satisfying results using anywhere from one neuronicon to a string of five. In the material, Chaol tells us that a string of eight icons can represent over 200 trillion different states. I sense that there is a developmental process involved before one can even imagine a state of perspective that would use eight neuronicons.

For now, that's exactly what I want to do with Ec...release old thinking patterns. Do you actually understand how the symbols flow from one to another? Or, do you just make up words and use the symbols that correspond with them?

As far as speaking in the dream world, my experience is that I just KNOW things. But, I"m not entirely lucid, either.

From the website:

"In our world, most of us generally would not say something like, "You are generous". Instead, we use a more open an engaging expression like, "I see you as generous".


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Btw, any chance you'd join the behind the scenes activity?

And my guess this is Chaol's perspective!!!!

Keep in mind that Chaol IS our expanded perspective. This is why it is impossible for us to evolve beyond Chaol's level. He IS us. We are him. He is our dream self.

Ah. So! I had a mini-brainstorm that could have useful repercussions.

Use your hands (or whatever other appendage seems appropriate. ha ha.) to draw the neuronicon in the air. This physicalizes and illustrates it for the rest of your perspective.

Has Chaol already made this suggestion?

I was outside, sitting by my favorite maple tree, when I realized that this tree is a strong symbol to me. I mostly just sit and admire this tree, which could be described as a neutral interaction. Thus, the symbol "OO" as in "TOO". I drew it in the air. There is a box at the beginning of this icon, and I made a motion of bringing all five fingers together then exploding them outwards to indicate the emphasis before the line.

Somewhere in these threads, Chaol posted a link to an article about how those who are born profoundly deaf use Signing as a natural language. They use it to the extent that their brains are wired differently from the "hearing". They think exclusively in symbols.

My apologies for not responding earlier to the invitation for joining an exclusive, behind-the-scenes gathering. I would rather remain open and translucent to the world at large. Sorry and thanks.

Great idea about using the hands.

So the tree is one symbol. How do you then go on to a string?

OK.

It's not meant to be either or...but to use both. There might be even more transparency in a less public forum. Some of us might find even out we are neighbors, heh!

Last Edited by ERE3 on 01/26/2013 05:30 PM

Short of giving my weight and social security number, I have already revealed all of my personal stastics on this thread, including some really private stuff. All of it right out there in the open for one point two million visitors per day to examine.

House of Chaos
"Honesty without reason"


Incidentally, I weigh 170 pounds. I am 5' 10" tall.

I hadn't noticed because you are also an AC with a changing IP number. I don't know any of your private stuff because of it. How transparent is that?

And, why do you find honesty in public more transparent than honesty in intimacy?

just sayin'

Last Edited by ERE3 on 01/26/2013 09:07 PM

Can you post the example of neuronicons? Maybe what you wrote out as an example. I understand each must be different for each individual. However I'm finding a hard time finding an example that worked for somebody.

Cheers.

Hi! I'd be happy to share the string that is working so well for me.

Please be aware that this is for a feeling that I conjured up and then wrote a string that described the feeling. My interpretation using neuronicons may be different from the way someone else may see it.

If you can access a page of neuronicons with their pronounciations, the icons I am using are: SIT, TOO, SUN, MY, and PIG, spoken as "I-OO-SUN-Y-P".

The perception I am after goes like this: "Meh. Money. I have a good income with very little effort, doing things that I like to do. There's plenty there if I need it to buy a plane ticket or something where the only recourse is to spend money on it. There are no bills since there are no debts. Bills are irrelevant. I lack for nothing."

On the other thread, I wrote about trying to take an afternoon nap while someone in the neighborhood was playing music through their sub-woofers. I applied one little neuronicon to that annoyance and the noise stopped mid-boom. I used the icon that is labeled "SHORT". It is pronounced "SH". Get it? It is like "Shhhhhh". "Hush".

I also "see" the icon in my imagination while repeating the sound it makes. Apparently, this is what programs one's perception.

I seem to have an attraction for the icon "SUN". That is, Neutral Logic/High Possibility. I seem to be including it a lot in other strings. Then, I found another icon - fAIR: Neutral Possibility/Neutral Interaction. To me, the combination of the two sounds like magic. As if anything could be anything. SUNAIR. I have already used it as a log-on name on a website.

I notice that each of the neuronicons has its own philosophy. If a person had never studied Chaol's material, I don't think s/he would ever be able to grasp the meanings of the icons. This may be one reason that the EC language seems difficult. We needed the background teachings so as to comprehend - however dimly - the import of an icon like, for example, BOOBA (Weak Logic/Weak Possibility).

So you use a word for more than one meaning? And you figure out the input/output as to how you determine to use it?

Pretty cool example for Shhhh.

So for the words you do use, you see the icon. But, how does each symbol fit together?

My understanding is all 66 symbols run together, so I don't quite understand how to separate them.

Last Edited by ERE3 on 01/27/2013 10:10 AM

So you see all 5 symbols when you speak this string? And is the one you adjusted the meaning of, when the relatives showed up saying you owed money? You only changed the meaning to change the perception and not the string?

Last Edited by ERE3 on 01/27/2013 10:34 AM